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The Pain Cave

The Pain Cave is a free-flowing conversation with a wide variety of guests from the worlds of running and exercise science.  We talk about physiology, sports science, politics, music, beer, and occasi... Read more

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Episode 47 - Pushing Boundaries with Maggie Guterl

Episode 47 - Pushing Boundaries with Maggie Guterl

Last month, Maggie Guterl became the first woman to win Big’s Backyard Ultra, the de facto world championship of the Las... Read more

27 Nov 2019

1hr 11mins

Ranked #2

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Episode 46 - This Month in Ultrarunning with Phil Vondra

Episode 46 - This Month in Ultrarunning with Phil Vondra

The Legend is back in the co-pilot’s seat for another installment of TMIU. We start off with a whirlwind of results from... Read more

13 Nov 2019

1hr 10mins

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Episode 29 - Epic Adventures with Pete Kostelnick

Episode 29 - Epic Adventures with Pete Kostelnick

We had so much fun talking with one of the fastest US women ever at 24 hours (Megan Alvarado) that we decided to do the ... Read more

6 Dec 2018

1hr 2mins

Ranked #4

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Episode 36 - Tackling Nutrition with Jonathan Clinthorne

Episode 36 - Tackling Nutrition with Jonathan Clinthorne

Sifting through the various dietary and nutritional approaches to our sport (vegan! low carb! gluten-free! fruitarian!) ... Read more

7 May 2019

48mins

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Episode 28 - Biking, Babies, and Blasting the JFK 50 with Kate Pallardy

Episode 28 - Biking, Babies, and Blasting the JFK 50 with Kate Pallardy

The cancellation of the North Face championships meant that many of the top athletes who had been aiming to end their se... Read more

29 Nov 2018

1hr 24mins

Ranked #6

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Episode 19 - Overcoming Injuries with Heidi Armstrong

Episode 19 - Overcoming Injuries with Heidi Armstrong

Look, if we do these things for long enough, eventually we're likely to get injured. And those of us who have been there... Read more

26 Jul 2018

48mins

Ranked #7

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Episode 17 - State of the Sport with Eric Schranz

Episode 17 - State of the Sport with Eric Schranz

The Pain Cave journeys west to the venerable Western States 100, where I was pacing our very first podcast guest, Brian ... Read more

28 Jun 2018

42mins

Ranked #8

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Episode 49 - Debating the Mens' UROY with Phil Vondra and Rich Heffron

Episode 49 - Debating the Mens' UROY with Phil Vondra and Rich Heffron

Since we ran incredibly long, we had to split up our UROY debate into two episodes. Here’s our mens’ discussion of UROY ... Read more

30 Dec 2019

49mins

Ranked #9

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Episode 23 - TDS Recap with Dylan Bowman

Episode 23 - TDS Recap with Dylan Bowman

It may have been a disappointing year for many of the top Americans at UTMB, but US runners came through with podium fin... Read more

17 Sep 2018

1hr 8mins

Ranked #10

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Episode 18 - The Catskill 35 FKT with Mike Siudy

Episode 18 - The Catskill 35 FKT with Mike Siudy

The new King of the Catskills, Mike Siudy, visits the Pain Cave following his incredible FKT of the "Direttissima"--a co... Read more

9 Jul 2018

1hr 20mins

Ranked #11

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Episode 30 - Running Happy with David Roche

Episode 30 - Running Happy with David Roche

David and Megan Roche are one of the power couples in US trail and ultra running today, with seven national championship... Read more

14 Dec 2018

1hr

Ranked #12

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Episode 33 - This Month in Ultrarunning with Phil Vondra

Episode 33 - This Month in Ultrarunning with Phil Vondra

The Legend is back! Finally! After a three-month absence, the Don Draper of ultrarunning returns for our latest installm... Read more

15 Feb 2019

1hr

Ranked #13

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Episode 40 - ReWiring the Brain with Sun Sachs and Laura Kline

Episode 40 - ReWiring the Brain with Sun Sachs and Laura Kline

We’ve talked a lot on the show about the role that the brain plays in determining performance in endurance events, but w... Read more

19 Jun 2019

47mins

Ranked #14

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Episode 37 - A Conversation with Sherpa John Lacroix

Episode 37 - A Conversation with Sherpa John Lacroix

As an athlete, filmmaker, and a race director, Sherpa John Lacroix is a seminal figure in the modern version of the spor... Read more

22 May 2019

53mins

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