In the new episode of "Gimme Shelter: The California Housing Crisis Podcast," CalMatters Housing Reporter Manuela Tobias shares her findings from a five-month investigation on California’s mobile home parks, the last stop in housing affordability for the state’s most vulnerable residents.

Gimme Shelter: Mobile home parks in disrepair

In the first of an eight-part series, Anna Scott of KCRW takes listeners through the story of Veterans Row, a homeless encampment in Los Angeles.

Gimme Shelter: Homeless veterans in Los Angeles offer statewide insights

With a majority of housing plans out of compliance with state housing law, developers could theoretically use a little-known law to kick building into high gear. On this week’s podcast, a housing law expert breaks down the untested “builder’s remedy.”

Gimme Shelter: Can an obscure law unleash a lot more housing in California?

A new court system to address the needs of people with severe mental illness who are often homeless will launch in some counties in 2023.

Gimme Shelter: CARE Courts are coming to California

Karen Bass

Liam Dillon and Ben Oreskes of the L.A. Times interview Mayor Karen Bass about homelessness and housing problems in California.

Gimme Shelter: Mayor Karen Bass on housing and homelessness

CalMatters health reporter Kristen Hwang discusses the health care crisis facing California’s homeless population with housing reporters.

Why Many Unhoused Californians Can't Access Healthcare

CalMatters' Manuela Tobias and the Los Angeles Times' Liam Dillon pick the wildest housing story of 2022: how a California town almost used mountain lions to sidestep housing law.

Avocado of the Year: The Wildest Housing Story of 2022

California’s housing crisis is pushing public higher education out of reach for low-income college students.

How California’s Housing Crisis Hurts College Students

Gavin Newsom

Last time he was on the campaign trail, Gov. Gavin Newsom promised 3.5 million new homes to fix California’s housing crisis. Two housing reporters take stock of what he’s done so far.

Gimme Shelter: Gavin Newsom promised 3.5 million homes. How'd he do?

It’s both the capital of single-family-home suburban sprawl and the most crowded place to live, as highlighted by a new investigation by the Los Angeles Times.

Gimme Shelter: How L.A. became the nation's most housing-overcrowded place

Why is it so expensive to live in California? And what can the state do about it? Every other week, Los Angeles Times housing reporter Liam Dillon and CalMatters housing reporter Manuela Tobias chat about the latest developments in California housing policy and interview key newsmakers and other reporters. You can also subscribe to us on iTunes, Stitcher, Spotify and anywhere else you get your pods. Gimme Shelter is supported by The James Irvine Foundation, committed to a California where all low-income workers have the power to advance economically.

Great podcast, housing is a complex issue and these guys do a great job of covering the issues

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Looking to do a similar project in Oregon. Thanks for your work!

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Why is it so expensive to live in California? And what can the state do about it? Every other week, Los Angeles Times housing reporter Liam Dillon and CalMatters housing reporter Manuela Tobias chat about the latest developments in California housing policy and interview key newsmakers and other reporters. You can also subscribe to us on iTunes, Stitcher, Spotify and anywhere else you get your pods. Gimme Shelter is supported by The James Irvine Foundation, committed to a California where all low-income workers have the power to advance economically.

Gimme Shelter: The California Housing Crisis Podcast

Debra Carlton

Amy Schur

One housing issue will overshadow all others this election: Rent control. Matt and Liam discuss why renewed negotiations to remove a controversial rent control initiative from the ballot went nowhere, and what the campaigns will look like this fall. First, Matt proposes a solution to the Los Angeles Clippers' battles with the California Environmental Quality Act in the Avocado of the Fortnight (3:30). Then a discussion about why negotiations over rent control have been so fruitless (11:23). Debra Carlton, senior vice president of public affairs for the California Apartment Association, stops by the studio to talk about the landlords' perspective (24:00). And Amy Schur, campaign director for Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment, calls in to give the tenants' side (47:30). **We refer to Amy with the wrong title at the beginning of the podcast, we apologize for the error.

One housing issue will overshadow all others this election: Rent control. Matt and Liam discuss why renewed negotiations to remove a controversial rent control initiative from the ballot went nowhere, and what the campaigns will look like this fall. First, Matt proposes a solution to the Los Angeles Clippers' battles with the California Environmental Quality Act in the Avocado of the Fortnight (3:30). Then a discussion about why negotiations over rent control have been so fruitless (11:23). Debra Carlton, senior vice president of public affairs for the California Apartment Association, stops by the studio to talk about the landlords' perspective (24:00). And Amy Schur, campaign director for Alliance of Californians for Community Empowerment, calls in to give the tenants' side (47:30). * *We refer to Amy with the wrong title at the beginning of the podcast, we apologize for the error.

The Rent Control War, with Debra Carlton and Amy Schur

Brian Hanlon

Cynthia Strathmann

The hottest piece of housing legislation in the country is not being received well by many low-income communities of color. Matt and Liam explore the politics and policy of SB 827, this time from an equity angle. First, a "Number of the Fortnight" brought to you by all-cash buyers of single family homes (2:30). For the "Avocado of the Fortnight", Matt and Liam then review the objectively hilarious memes coming from one opponent of SB 827 (6:00). Then some tough questions: Is the media attention on SB 827 good or bad (13:00), what's actually in the bill (16:00), was anti-gentrification groups' opposition to the bill politically avoidable (23:00), and will the bill make it past a key committee chairman (26:00). Then, interviews with Cynthia Strathmann, executive director of an anti-displacement group in south Los Angeles (31:00), and Brian Hanlon, executive director of California Yes In My Backyard and sponsor of SB 827 (50:30).Here are some of the memes, for your viewing pleasure: https://twitter.com/SaveMarinwood/status/976536870237556736 https://twitter.com/SaveMarinwood/status/976264771077943296 https://twitter.com/SaveMarinwood/status/974434015162769408 https://twitter.com/dillonliam/status/974439630945714176

The hottest piece of housing legislation in the country is not being received well by many low-income communities of color. Matt and Liam explore the politics and policy of SB 827, this time from an equity angle. First, a "Number of the Fortnight" brought to you by all-cash buyers of single family homes (2:30). For the "Avocado of the Fortnight", Matt and Liam then review the objectively hilarious memes coming from one opponent of SB 827 (6:00). Then some tough questions: Is the media attention on SB 827 good or bad (13:00), what's actually in the bill (16:00), was anti-gentrification groups' opposition to the bill politically avoidable (23:00), and will the bill make it past a key committee chairman (26:00). Then, interviews with Cynthia Strathmann, executive director of an anti-displacement group in south Los Angeles (31:00), and Brian Hanlon, executive director of California Yes In My Backyard and sponsor of SB 827 (50:30). Here are some of the memes, for your viewing pleasure: <a href="https://twitter.com/SaveMarinwood/status/976536870237556736" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/SaveMarinwood/status/976536870237556736</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/SaveMarinwood/status/976264771077943296" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/SaveMarinwood/status/976264771077943296</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/SaveMarinwood/status/974434015162769408" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/SaveMarinwood/status/974434015162769408</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/dillonliam/status/974439630945714176" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/dillonliam/status/974439630945714176</a>

Gentrification and SB 827, with Cynthia Strathmann and Brian Hanlon

Michael Lens

Yonah Freemark

Does building more housing--and allowing more housing to be built--actually reduce rents and home prices in the long run? How long is the long run exactly? In light of a MIT study  that casts doubt on the efficacy of "upzoning"--allowing more houses to be built on one piece of land--Matt and Liam talk about "supply skepticism" and how important the study may or may not be to the fate of statewide housing reforms in California. Then an interview with Michael Lens (26:00), professor of urban planning at UCLA and a proponent of upzoning, about what has and hasn't been proven in housing research and his reaction to the MIT study. Finally an interview with the MIT study author himself, Yonah Freemark (44:00).

Does building and zoning for more housing actually work? With Michael Lens and Yonah Freemark

What makes or breaks good housing policy? The wonky details. This week, Matt and Liam break down the ins and outs of all 15 bills in the state housing package: where the new affordable housing revenue will be spent (6:00), whether the so-called "streamlining" bills will actually make it easier for builders to build (10:00), how inclusionary zoning ordinances will actually work (19:00), the new additional layers of planning cities will be required to do (21:00), and how beefed up state enforcement of housing law will play out in practice (26:00). Then, a fantastic panel interview (33:00) with developer Meea Kang, affordable housing advocate Brian Augusta, and League of Cities lobbyist Jason Rhine. Here's Liam's opus we reference on 50 years of failed California state housing law: http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-pol-ca-housing-supply/

What makes or breaks good housing policy? The wonky details. This week, Matt and Liam break down the ins and outs of all 15 bills in the state housing package: where the new affordable housing revenue will be spent (6:00), whether the so-called "streamlining" bills will actually make it easier for builders to build (10:00), how inclusionary zoning ordinances will actually work (19:00), the new additional layers of planning cities will be required to do (21:00), and how beefed up state enforcement of housing law will play out in practice (26:00). Then, a fantastic panel interview (33:00) with developer Meea Kang, affordable housing advocate Brian Augusta, and League of Cities lobbyist Jason Rhine. Here's Liam's opus we reference on 50 years of failed California state housing law: <a href="http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-pol-ca-housing-supply/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-pol-ca-housing-supply/</a>

9/28: A developer, an affordable housing advocate, and a lobbyist for cities walk into a studio...

Matt and Liam delve into one aspect of California's housing crisis that doesn't receive much attention: the shortage of construction labor to build the houses the state so desperately needs. An avocado of the fortnight (2:15) first takes us to Orange County, where the question of where to shelter the region's growing homeless population has provoked some interesting reactions from local political leaders. Then a discussion of why the construction labor shortage hasn't received a ton of attention (7:00), some of the reasons for the shortage they've heard (12:00), and the politics of prevailing wage (14:00). Then an interview with Sacramento-area homebuilder Rachel Bardis on how she sees the labor shortage impacts the work she does (23:00), followed by an interview with Alex Lantsberg, an analyst for the San Francisco electricians' union (41:30). Note: We know we say Alex is our first guess on the podcast, but it's Rachel.Here are links to a couple articles we referenceOn the power of the state construction workers' union and prevailing wage: http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-construction-workers-housing-20170512-htmlstory.htmlOn the changing demographics of the construction industry in Los Angeles: http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-construction-trump/

Matt and Liam delve into one aspect of California's housing crisis that doesn't receive much attention: the shortage of construction labor to build the houses the state so desperately needs. An avocado of the fortnight (2:15) first takes us to Orange County, where the question of where to shelter the region's growing homeless population has provoked some interesting reactions from local political leaders. Then a discussion of why the construction labor shortage hasn't received a ton of attention (7:00), some of the reasons for the shortage they've heard (12:00), and the politics of prevailing wage (14:00). Then an interview with Sacramento-area homebuilder Rachel Bardis on how she sees the labor shortage impacts the work she does (23:00), followed by an interview with Alex Lantsberg, an analyst for the San Francisco electricians' union (41:30). Note: We know we say Alex is our first guess on the podcast, but it's Rachel. Here are links to a couple articles we reference On the power of the state construction workers' union and prevailing wage: <a href="http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-construction-workers-housing-20170512-htmlstory.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-construction-workers-housing-20170512-htmlstory.html</a> On the changing demographics of the construction industry in Los Angeles: <a href="http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-construction-trump/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-construction-trump/</a>

The Mysterious Construction Labor Shortage, with a Developer and a Union Rep

It's been one year of Matt and Liam talking about California's housing crisis. They reflect on the biggest stories of the past twelve months, and what they expect to be on the podcast in the year ahead. First, an Avocado of the Fortnight takes us to a potentially awkward roommate situation at UC Santa Cruz (5:00). Then a recap of the last month of housing legislation at the Capitol, including Liam's choice for the most important housing bill that passed(10:00). And finally, Matt and Liam talk about the past and future of the pod (30:00).

The Gimme Shelter One Year Anniversary Spectacular

Farhad Manjoo

Fires, blackouts, and soaring housing costs--has California officially reached a tipping point? Or are we simply recycling the same old tired doomsday tropes every time the state faces a collective challenge? On this episode of Gimme Shelter, Matt and Liam chat with New York Times columnist Farhad Manjoo about why the state's twin climate change and housing affordability problems make him pessimistic about the future. First, an Avocado of the Fortnight poses a $10,000 question: How much would it take for you to leave the Bay? (4:30) Then a discussion of where Southern California decided to put 1.3 million new units of state-mandated housing, and why the decision was so surprising to Liam (7:30). Finally, a conversation about whether we should rebuild in high fire risk areas, followed by an interview with NYT op-ed columnist and fan of the pod Farhad Manjoo (33:00). Farhad's Column: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/30/opinion/sunday/california-fires.html

Fires, blackouts, and soaring housing costs--has California officially reached a tipping point? Or are we simply recycling the same old tired doomsday tropes every time the state faces a collective challenge? On this episode of Gimme Shelter, Matt and Liam chat with New York Times columnist Farhad Manjoo about why the state's twin climate change and housing affordability problems make him pessimistic about the future. First, an Avocado of the Fortnight poses a $10,000 question: How much would it take for you to leave the Bay? (4:30) Then a discussion of where Southern California decided to put 1.3 million new units of state-mandated housing, and why the decision was so surprising to Liam (7:30). Finally, a conversation about whether we should rebuild in high fire risk areas, followed by an interview with NYT op-ed columnist and fan of the pod Farhad Manjoo (33:00). Farhad's Column: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/30/opinion/sunday/california-fires.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/30/opinion/sunday/california-fires.html</a>

Is California as we know it over? With the New York Times' Farhad Manjoo

A very special episode:  Matt and Liam moderate a conversation on housing policy between state Sen. Scott Wiener, Democrat from San Francisco, and Beverly Hills Mayor John Mirisch. Wiener is trying to force California cities to allow denser housing. Mirisch has been a fierce defender of local control and single-family-only zoning. Tune in for the avocado jokes, stay for the civil discourse on zoning reform!!!This debate was recorded live at the Southern California Association of Nonprofit Housing's annual conference in downtown Los Angeles on Friday, October 25th. Registration for our CalMatters-L.A. Times town hall on homelessness and housing in Santa Monica, Tuesday Nov. 5th: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/a-homelessness-housing-town-hall-registration-76393489985#m_1_100

A very special episode: Matt and Liam moderate a conversation on housing policy between state Sen. Scott Wiener, Democrat from San Francisco, and Beverly Hills Mayor John Mirisch. Wiener is trying to force California cities to allow denser housing. Mirisch has been a fierce defender of local control and single-family-only zoning. Tune in for the avocado jokes, stay for the civil discourse on zoning reform!!! This debate was recorded live at the Southern California Association of Nonprofit Housing's annual conference in downtown Los Angeles on Friday, October 25th. Registration for our CalMatters-L.A. Times town hall on homelessness and housing in Santa Monica, Tuesday Nov. 5th: <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/a-homelessness-housing-town-hall-registration-76393489985#m_1_100" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.eventbrite.com/e/a-homelessness-housing-town-hall-registration-76393489985#m_1_100</a>

The melee at the Marriott: Sen. Wiener and Beverly Hills Mayor Mirisch debate housing

Matt and Liam set up a "meet the podcast guys" booth at the Housing California conference, the state's largest annual gathering of affordable housing advocates. They award an Avocado of the Fortnight to two leading gubernatorial candidates for evading some basic questions on their housing plans (2:00). Then they chat about California's rising number of people experiencing homelessness (10:40), why state money to confront the problem has been caught up in the courts (14:50), and the fate of two new funding proposals this legislative session (19:00). Finally, interviews with a trio of homelessness advocates and providers from across the state: Ann English, who works on supportive housing issues in Los Angeles (22:00); Laura Guzman, who had worked for over two decades on homelessness in the Bay Area (33:00); and Stephen Russel, an affordable housing advocate in San Diego.

The new homelessness, from San Diego to the Bay (broadcast from the Housing California conference)

Bob Wieckowski

Stan Acton

Is the solution to California's housing shortage literally sitting in the backyard of single-family homes? This week, Matt and Liam delve into the role Accessory Dwelling Units--ADU's, in-law units or "Casitas" as no one calls them, could play in fixing the state's housing woes. First, the Avocado of the Fortnight delves into the relationship between the Old Testament, state housing policy and the new mayor of Beverly Hills (5:45). Then a discussion of SB 50, the controversial bill to allow more apartment buildings around transit, as it cleared its first legislative hurdle this week (11:40). Matt and Liam debate the merits of what ADU's and should not be called (18:00). Finally, interviews with ADU proponent Sen. Bob Wieckowski (24:00) and ADU builder Stan Acton (38:30).

Much ADU about "casitas", with Sen. Bob Wieckowski and granny flat builder Stan Acton

Darrell Steinberg

Matt and Liam interview the co-chairs of Gov. Gavin Newsom's statewide task force on homelessness, Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg and L.A. County Supervisor Mark Ridley-Thomas. This episode was taped live on November 5 at a "Homelessness and Housing Town Hall" hosted by the Milken Institute in Santa Monica. The town hall was co-produced by CalMatters, the Los Angeles Times, and the Milken Institute. Special thanks to JPMorgan Chase &amp; Co., Edison International and SoCalGas for sponsoring the event.

Matt and Liam interview the co-chairs of Gov. Gavin Newsom's statewide task force on homelessness, Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg and L.A. County Supervisor Mark Ridley-Thomas. This episode was taped live on November 5 at a "Homelessness and Housing Town Hall" hosted by the Milken Institute in Santa Monica. The town hall was co-produced by CalMatters, the Los Angeles Times, and the Milken Institute. Special thanks to JPMorgan Chase &amp; Co., Edison International and SoCalGas for sponsoring the event.

Solving homelessness, with Darrell Steinberg and Mark Ridley-Thomas

Ben Metcalf

As 2019 winds down, Matt and Liam discuss what major housing storylines you should expect next year. First, the second annual Avocado of the Year is awarded to the most absurd California housing story of 2019 (2:00). Then, counting down the four issues that will define California's housing crisis next year, from a possible Trump crackdown on homelessness to what a "signature housing production bill" actually looks like (7:00). Finally, an interview with Ben Metcalf, former head of the state Department of Housing and Community Development, about the successes and mistakes of his tenure (32:00).

Housing storylines to watch in 2020, with former state housing head Ben Metcalf

The most controversial housing bill in the state was unexpectedly put on life support this week. In this emergency version of the podcast, Matt and Liam discuss how and why SB 50, Sen. Wiener's second attempt to produce denser housing around transit, got shelved. Then an interview with Brian Hanlon, head of California YIMBY, sponsor of the bill (32:30).

Emergency pod: Why SB 50 was put on ice, with Brian Hanlon

Last year, state legislators passed a suite of laws billed as the biggest attempt to ease California's housing crisis in a generation. Matt and Liam discuss how those new laws are playing out on the ground, and how we should judge whether they're working or not. First,  the Avocado of the Fortnight takes us to Ben Carson's twitter feed, which is causing headaches for California YIMBYs (3:30). Then the debut of the podcast's new segment, Housing on the Ballot, where Matt and Liam talk about the latest developments in the rent control war (11:30). Matt and Liam then talk about the three highest profile bills in the housing package, and how a deteriorating mall in Cupertino may hold the key to one bill's success (17:00). An interview with Cupertino Mayor Darcy Paul (35:30), who opposes a project that invokes the state housing package. And finally a chat with Ben Metcalf, head of the state housing department and the man in charge of making sure the housing package works (51:00).**Apologies for the audio quality on this last interview, Matt's microphone was not working properly.

Last year, state legislators passed a suite of laws billed as the biggest attempt to ease California's housing crisis in a generation. Matt and Liam discuss how those new laws are playing out on the ground, and how we should judge whether they're working or not. First, the Avocado of the Fortnight takes us to Ben Carson's twitter feed, which is causing headaches for California YIMBYs (3:30). Then the debut of the podcast's new segment, Housing on the Ballot, where Matt and Liam talk about the latest developments in the rent control war (11:30). Matt and Liam then talk about the three highest profile bills in the housing package, and how a deteriorating mall in Cupertino may hold the key to one bill's success (17:00). An interview with Cupertino Mayor Darcy Paul (35:30), who opposes a project that invokes the state housing package. And finally a chat with Ben Metcalf, head of the state housing department and the man in charge of making sure the housing package works (51:00).* *Apologies for the audio quality on this last interview, Matt's microphone was not working properly.

How's that housing package working, with the mayor of Cupertino and the state housing head

Tyrone Buckley

Gov. Gavin Newsom's housing budget tries to do ALOT--including build  more housing for California's middle class. Matt and Liam take a deeper dive into Newsom's housing plan, including his call for Silicon Valley companies to chip in on the so-called "missing middle." First, an Avocado of the Fortnight from San Jose has Liam purring with delight (1:45). Then a deeper dive into Newsom's housing budget and its new emphasis on middle-income housing (6:30). And finally an interview with low-income housing advocate Tyrone Buckley about a range of housing topics, including SB 50 (24:00).**PS--We recorded this on Thursday, Jan. 24 before the Huntington Beach  news was public.

Gov. Gavin Newsom's housing budget tries to do ALOT--including build more housing for California's middle class. Matt and Liam take a deeper dive into Newsom's housing plan, including his call for Silicon Valley companies to chip in on the so-called "missing middle." First, an Avocado of the Fortnight from San Jose has Liam purring with delight (1:45). Then a deeper dive into Newsom's housing budget and its new emphasis on middle-income housing (6:30). And finally an interview with low-income housing advocate Tyrone Buckley about a range of housing topics, including SB 50 (24:00).* *PS--We recorded this on Thursday, Jan. 24 before the Huntington Beach news was public.

Low-income housing, Newsom's budget and the missing middle, with Tyrone Buckley

Dan Dunmoyer

Cesar Diaz

Last week was a rough week for California housing bills. Many couldn't pass a key legislative deadline, and some of the survivors were barely recognizable by the time lawmakers were done with them. In this episode, Matt and Liam sift through the wreckage and what it means for the future of the state's' housing woes. Then, interviews with Dan Dunmoyer, head of the California Building Industry Association who lobby on behalf of developers in the state Capitol (28:00). And finally an interview with Cesar Diaz,  legislative director for the State Building and Construction Trades Council, which represents organized construction workers (48:45).

The housing bill bloodbath, with Dan Dunmoyer and Cesar Diaz

Scott Wiener

California's most controversial housing bill is back again...again. For three years Sen. Scott Wiener has tried to force cities to allow apartment buildings around transit. He's hoping new amendments that grant local governments much more flexibility in approving what types of housing go where will finally get his legislation to the Governor. But do the amendments make the bill more complex and less effective? And are they politically savvy enough to pass? Matt and Liam discuss the third incarnation of SB 50. First, an Avocado of the Fortnight asks where the social responsibility of strip clubs should end (3:30). Then a walk-thru of the past, present and future of SB 50 (5:00). Finally, an interview with Sen. Scott Wiener (25:00).

California's most controversial housing bill is back again...again. For three years Sen. Scott Wiener has tried to force cities to allow apartment buildings around transit. He's hoping new amendments that grant local governments much more flexibility in approving what types of housing go where will finally get his legislation to the Governor. But do the amendments make the bill more complex and less effective? And are they politically savvy enough to pass? Matt and Liam discuss the third incarnation of SB 50. First, an Avocado of the Fortnight asks where the social responsibility of strip clubs should end (3:30). Then a walk-thru of the past, present and future of SB 50 (5:00). Finally, an interview with Sen. Scott Wiener (25:00).

The SB 50 local control remix, with Sen. Scott Wiener

Mary Murtagh

Matt and Liam discuss the potentially massive consequences of federal tax reform on California's housing woes. First, an avocado of the week poses the question of whether it's easier to build a basketball arena or reform California environmental regulations (5:00). Then, a deep dive into the federal tax plan, touching the fates of the low income housing tax credit (18:00) and the mortgage interest deduction (28:00). Finally, an interview with Mary Murtagh, a nonprofit affordable housing developer whose projects are already imperiled by tax reform.

How tax reform will hurt California housing, with affordable housing developer Mary Murtagh

John Moorlach

Miguel Santiago

Huntington Beach, you've been served. Last week, the Newsom administration announced it was suing the Orange County city for failing to plan for adequate housing. Matt and Liam delve into the details of the suit, and what it means for the future of local control over housing decisions. First, an Avocado of the Fortnight takes us yet again to the city of Cupertino, where a new mayor's stand-up act met mixed reviews (2:40). Then a detailed breakdown of the policy and nuanced politics of dueling Huntington Beach lawsuits (6:20). Then an interview with  Republican Sen. John Moorlach, who represents the region and is trying to persuade Newsom to back off (24: 00). Finally, an interview with Democratic Asm. Miguel Santiago from Los Angeles, who authored the bill used to sue Huntington Beach (42:45).

Newsom vs. Huntington Beach, with Sen. John Moorlach and Asm. Miguel Santiago

David Chiu

Expanded rent control won't be coming to your city anytime soon--at least via the state legislature. Matt and Liam discuss why the repeal of Costa-Hawkins died at a dramatic Assembly hearing last week. First, Liam flags some other major housing bills you should keep an eye on (2:45). Then, an Avocado of the Week where in the middle of a hearing on rent control a legislator admits he doesn't know a key law affecting landlords and tenants (6:40). Matt and Liam then recap the drama of the hearing (9:40), including the charged atmosphere, why certain Democrats voted no, and whether there was a compromise to be had. Then, an in-studio interview (with good sound quality!) with Asm. David Chiu from San Francisco, head of the Assembly Housing and Community Development Committee (30:00). Special thanks to our friends at Capital Public Radio for allowing us to record the interview in their facilities.

Expanded rent control won't be coming to your city anytime soon--at least via the state legislature. Matt and Liam discuss why the repeal of Costa-Hawkins died at a dramatic Assembly hearing last week. First, Liam flags some other major housing bills you should keep an eye on (2:45). Then, an Avocado of the Week where in the middle of a hearing on rent control a legislator admits he doesn't know a key law affecting landlords and tenants (6:40). Matt and Liam then recap the drama of the hearing (9:40), including the charged atmosphere, why certain Democrats voted no, and whether there was a compromise to be had. Then, an in-studio interview (with good sound quality!) with Asm. David Chiu from San Francisco, head of the Assembly Housing and Community Development Committee (30:00). Special thanks to our friends at Capital Public Radio for allowing us to record the interview in their facilities.

Why Rent Control Died in the Capitol, with Asm. David Chiu

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