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BFF Kathy Tu and Tobin Low are super queer, super fun and ready to take over your podcast feed. Join them for provocative stories and frank conversations about the LGBTQ experience today. Because everyone’s a little bit gay. WNYC Studios is a listener-supported producer of other podcasts including Radiolab, Death, Sex & Money, Snap Judgment, On the Media, Here’s the Thing with Alec Baldwin and many others. © WNYC Studios

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What Do We Have in Common?

For the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall uprising, we talk about what actually happened and where we go from here. — Marc Stein is a historian at San Francisco State University. — Karla Jay is an author, activist, and Professor Emeritus at Pace University. — Raquel Willis is the Executive Editor at Out Magazine. Music in this episode by Jeremy Bloom, Mystery Mammal ("Relay"), and Little Glass Men ("Sector Vector"). Theme by Alexander Overington.


24 Jun 2019

Rank #1

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Make Australia Gay Again

It's our 100th episode! And for this special occasion, Nancy sound designer Jeremy Bloom goes on a quest to find the truth behind a mysterious gay and lesbian island kingdom. — Bruce Hecht is the owner of the Champion Stamp Company in New York City. — Derek Adam Thomas makes videos about micro-nations and the fun things they get up to.  — Dennis Altman an academic and gay rights activist. He is the author of over 20 books including Homosexual Liberation & Oppression and Unrequited Love.  — Nick Henderson is a curator for the Australian Lesbian and Gay Archives. — William Jackson Freeman is the former Lord Chancellor of the Gay and Lesbian Kingdom of the Coral Sea Islands.  — Dale Parker Anderson I is the former Emperor of the Gay and Lesbian Kingdom of the Coral Sea Islands. — Voiceovers by Rosa Gollan. — Episode image courtesy of Glen Stephens. Special thanks this week to the other Dale Parker Anderson, Sabrina Lipovic (Archives researcher for the Australian Broadcasting Corporation), Oley Media Group, Emperor George Cruckshank II, Viktor Zimmerman (Gay Homeland Foundation), Simon Sellers & George Dunford (Authors of the Lonely Planet Guide to Micronations), Judy Lattas, Jody Shapiro, Glen Stephens, Paul Poet, Bob Jervis, Don Green, James "Jaix" Brooks, the former members of the of the Gay and Lesbian Kingdom of the Coral Sea Islands. Music in this episode by Jeremy S. Bloom, Albert Behar, Sergey Cheremisinov ("Fog"), and Kevin MacLeod ("Bridal Chorus" & "I Knew A Guy"). Theme by Alexander Overington.


20 Apr 2020

Rank #2

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Five Simple Steps

Content warning: This episode contains a reference to suicide. Traveling to Taiwan with her mom, Kathy imagines the life she might have lived had her family stayed. — Kathy's mom previously appeared on Nancy in the episodes "Hello Hello" and "Kathy's Mom is Uncomfortable With All This." — Guo Mama is a volunteer at the Taiwan Tongzhi Hotline Association in Taipei. — Li Te-Yun (Nan Gua) is a singer-songwriter in Taiwan. Special thanks to Andrew Ryan, a host and producer with Radio Taiwan International. Episode scoring by Jeremy Bloom with additional music by Art of Escapism ("Done with Disco"), Uncan ("Unbroken"), and Little Glass Men ("Cloud Launching"). Theme by Alexander Overington.


29 Jun 2018

Rank #3

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Sex Educated

Good sex ed can be life-changing. But getting access to it often entails a fight. — The “Our Whole Lives” program was created in partnership between the United Church of Christ and the Unitarian Universalist Association. — Matt Bloom is a reporter for NPR affiliate station KUNC in Colorado. He's also worked at stations in Los Angeles and Bloomington, Indiana. You can follow his reporting on Twitter @matthew_bloom or find more work at mattbloomwrites.me. Music in this episode by Jeremy Bloom, Marco Trovatello ("Haunty Fourstroke"), Nctrnm ("Tethered"), Meydan ("Elk"), Against Me! (Transgender Dysphoria Blues), Kai Engel ("Cold War Echo"), and Josh Woodward ("Show Me (Instrumental Version)"). Theme by Alexander Overington.


3 Jun 2019

Rank #4

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The Word 'Queer'

Strange or obtuse; a stinging homophobic slur; a radical political rejection of normativity; a broad term encompassing every and any variation on sexual orientation and gender identity: the word 'queer' has a multifarious past and complicated present. This is just a fraction of it. — Helen Zaltzman hosts the podcasts, The Allusionist and Answer Me This! Additional show notes can be found on The Allusionist's website. — Eric Marcus hosts the podcast, Making Gay History. — Amy Sueyoshi is a historian and author. — Cameo appearances from Katie Mingle from 99% Invisible, Katie Herzog from The Stranger, and Jonathan Van Ness from Queer Eye. Music in this episode by Martin Austwick. Theme by Alexander Overington.


18 Feb 2019

Rank #5

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Chella Man + Rebecca Sugar

A distraction for those of you who need it: We talk to activist and YouTuber Chella Man as well as Steven Universe creator Rebecca Sugar about what it's like to evolve in the public eye. — Chella Man is an artist, actor, and activist, who can be seen on the DC Universe series Titans. — Rebecca Sugar is the creator of Steven Universe. Music in this episode by Jeremy Bloom and Boxcat Games ("Mr Fox Shop" & "Inspiration"). Theme by Alexander Overington.


23 Mar 2020

Rank #6

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Michelle Buteau Is Straight But We Love Her Anyway

Michelle Buteau is the host of Late Night Whenever. This episode features comedian Matteo Lane and actor Nico Tortorella. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to shows. Episode scoring by Rob Lewis. Nancy theme by Alexander Overington.


1 May 2018

Rank #7

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Kathy Goes to Camp

Maybe don't overthink this one. — A-Camp is an annual summer camp for queer women organized by the website Autostraddle. Episode scoring by Jeremy Bloom with guitar performance by Hannis Brown. Theme by Alexander Overington.


25 Jun 2017

Rank #8

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Give Me A Sign

Note: This episode includes a story that mentions suicide. At the age of 61, Richard was searching for a boyfriend. But finding love was about more than just getting past the trials of dating. There was also Peter. — Other Men Need Help is a bi-weekly podcast about the emblems, habits, and struts in the male performance. You can listen to their original episode featuring Richard's story, "Boy Talk", from their first season. Their staff includes Lead Producer Caitlin Mae Burke, and producers Ben Goldberg and Rebecca Seidel.  — Mark Pagán is the host of Other Men Need Help. He's also an award-winning film and podcast producer, storyteller, writer, educator, and former b-boy. — Richard Cardillo is an educator and storyteller whose work has been featured on The Moth, Story Collider, and RISK!  If you or someone you know is having suicidal thoughts, call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline at 1-800-273-8255. The Trevor Project also has LGBTQ specific resources. The TrevorLifeline is at 1-866-488-7386. Music in this episode by Jeremy S. Bloom, Kyle Sanna, & Gangi ("Proton Beat"). Theme by Alexander Overington.


6 Apr 2020

Rank #9

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100% Science, 100% Magic

On a grey, Wisconsin day two years ago, Kristin Russo's life changed forever. — Kristin Russo is a writer, speaker, educator, and consultant with a focus on LGBTQ issues. She is CEO of the website My Kid Is Gay and co-authored This is a Book for Parents of Gay Kids. She also co-directs A-Camp, and co-hosts and produces the podcasts Buffering the Vampire Slayer and To L and Back. — You can read Kristin's article on her miscarriage, The Might-Have-Been, on Autostraddle, and follow her on Twitter and Instagram @kristinnoeline. — Episode art by Isabella Rotman and courtesy of Autostraddle. Music in this episode by Jeremy Bloom, Lee Rosevere ("I Wanted to Live"), and David Keifer ("Another Mark"). Theme by Alexander Overington.


13 May 2019

Rank #10

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The Golden Queers

What is retirement like when there's been a lifetime of discrimination and added costs, and what do we do about it? Queer Money Matters is Nancy's series about the straight economy and how queer people navigate it. Music in this episode by Jeremy Bloom and Tigue. Theme by Alexander Overington.


8 Mar 2019

Rank #11

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A Gaggle for Me

In our season three premiere, Nancy stages a friend-tervention for Joe Rodriguez. Plus, we launch our new How to Get a Gaggle project! Special thanks to Fran Tirado of the podcast Food 4 Thot, Eric Sosa at C'mon Everybody, and Bill Clark and Libby Willis at MeMe's Diner. Our friendship project is coordinated by Charlotte Cooper with help from Ashley Lusk, Caroline English, Sahar Baharloo, Sarah Sandbach, Fiona Carswell, and many more of our colleagues at WNYC Studios. Original music by Jeremy Bloom with additional music by Mystery Mammal ("You're Up There"), Podington Bear ("Gizmo"), and Creo ("Memory"). Theme by Alex Overington.


15 Apr 2018

Rank #12

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Multiple Lesbians in Any Scenario

"The L Word" is a soap opera, and maybe not even a particularly good one at that. But it's also essential viewing for queer women. — Cameron Esposito is an actor, comedian, and producer. — Sarah Shahi, Erin Daniels, and Mia Kirshner played Carmen, Dana, and Jenny on The L Word. Ilene Chaiken was the show's co-creator and executive producer. Special thanks to Cassie Sercia and Autostraddle's Riese Bernard. Episode scoring by Jeremy Bloom with additional music by Kai Engel ("Seeker") and Lawrence Grey ("The St Marks Shake"). Theme by Alexander Overington.


3 Sep 2017

Rank #13

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Out at Work

— Asa Sevelius is principal of the Heath School in Brookline, Mass. — Clair Farley is the director of economic development at the San Francisco LGBT Center; Mia Satya is an employment services specialist with the center's Trans Employment Program. — Check out the results from our Out at Work survey, plus a whole bunch of resources for navigating being queer on the job. Special thanks to Mandy Naglich, Anna Burke, and Alison Morgenstern. Episode scoring by Jeremy Bloom with additional music by Drake Stafford ("Matte Black") and Evan Schaeffer ("Sisyphus"). Theme by Alexander Overington.


29 Oct 2017

Rank #14

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Does It Bring You Joy?

Tobin realizes he’s been carrying around an insecurity since he was a teenager. — Dr. Christie Block is a Speech-Language Pathologist based in New York City. — Jacob Tobia is a writer, activist, producer, and author of the book, Sissy: A Coming-of-Gender Story. You can find them on Twitter and Instagram. — Henry Bae is the Creative Director and co-founder of Syro. Shaobo Han is the Director of Operations and co-founder of Syro. — Syro is a queer POC business that makes heels in all sizes for all genders. Music in this episode by Jeremy Bloom, Anamorphic Orchestra ("Taking Dark Matter Lightly"), Lee Rosevere ("Featherlight"), Axletree ("Goodnight Esme (Instrumental)"), Ultracat ("Disco High"), Juanitos ("En Croisiere"), Daedelus ("Make it Drums"), and Creo ("Place on Fire"). Theme by Alexander Overington.


8 Apr 2019

Rank #15

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Cumming to America

Alan Cumming became a U.S. citizen in 2008. His new show, "Legal Immigrant," tells a story of love for his adopted homeland. — Patti O'Furniture hosts a weekly drag show at PT's 1109, a gay bar in Columbia, South Carolina. — Lewis Wallace is a radio producer and magazine editor. Music in this episode by Jeremy Bloom. Theme by Alexander Overington.


24 Jun 2018

Rank #16

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Perfect Son

Jason Kim didn’t talk to his dad very much. But all that changed three years ago, when he got a call that upended their entire relationship. — Jason Kim is a screenwriter, playwright, and librettist. He's written for shows like "Barry" and "Girls" on HBO, and recent performances of his plays include "The Model American" at The Williamstown Theatre Festival and "KPOP" at Ars Nova Theater. Episode scoring by Jeremy Bloom, Yuichiro Fujimoto ("The Boys"), and Lee Rosevere ("Featherlight"). Theme by Alexander Overington.


24 Sep 2018

Rank #17

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The Day of Epiphany

It’s a moment of reckoning for many members of the United Methodist Church, and after 25 years as a United Methodist pastor, Cynthia Meyer found herself with a decision to make. Music in this episode by Jeremy Bloom, Andy G. Cohen ("Land Legs"), Axletree ("Goodnight Esme Instrumental" and "Dragon Country Apple Clove Instrumental"), Josh Woodward ("Border Blaster Instrumental"), Little Glass Men ("Procreation"), and Kai Engel ("Mare"). Theme by Alexander Overington.


10 Jun 2019

Rank #18

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Bowen Yang Was Fooled by Grey's Anatomy

Bowen Yang drops by the studio to talk to Tobin and Kathy about Sandra Oh, Saturday Night Live, and bad representation. — Bowen Yang is a comedian, producer, and formerly mediocre chemistry major based in Brooklyn, NY. He co-hosts the podcast, Las Culturistas, and you can find him on Twitter @bowenyang. Music in this episode by Jeremy Bloom. Theme by Alexander Overington.


10 Dec 2018

Rank #19

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God + The Gays

Growing up, Phoebe was a Jesus kid. In college, after Tinder-swiping her way to gayness, she comes out to Christians and hopes that they’ll accept her. And now, Phoebe goes on a mission to find out whether people with fundamentally different beliefs can have meaningful relationships. — Phoebe Wang is a multidisciplinary artist based between Brooklyn, NY and Toronto, ON. You can find her on Twitter @feebswang. — "God + The Gays" won the 2018 Third Coast/Richard H. Driehaus Foundation Competition Best New Artist Award and Phoebe gave an acceptance speech that resulted in a 45-second standing ovation. Music in this episode by Joni Void. The song “Let Your Little Light Shine” is by Pamela Warrick-Smith and was performed by Community Chorus, a resistance-themed choir led by Carolyn Pennypacker Riggs in LA. Nancy theme by Alexander Overington.


24 Dec 2018

Rank #20