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The Liturgists Podcast

An artful, mind-expanding, heart-opening, genre-bending exploration of how to live a life full of more love and less suffering.

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Dealing with Loneliness - Live from Wild Goose

Science Mike, Michael Gungor, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride discuss the modern epidemic of loneliness, and how to respond to it in an episode recorded in front of a live audience at the Wild Goose Festival 2019.We've got HUGE NEWS about our Tabs & Wafers tour: We're offering FREE TICKETS in all remaining cities in order to make our events more economically accessible. Plus, we're finally telling you the event actually is. You can learn more here. See you soon, Minneapolis, Chicago, Los Angeles, Tempe, San Francisco, Dallas, Houston, and Austin.

50mins

25 Jul 2019

Rank #1

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Fear | Live in Nashville

We’re discussing fear in an episode that was recorded live at The Liturgists Gathering in Nashville, TN. Special thanks to Jamie Lee Finch for joining us.We’re going on tour! Join Science Mike and Michael Gungor for Tabs & Wafers. Tickets are on sale now--visit our events page for more information.

1hr 10mins

7 Mar 2019

Rank #2

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Episode 14 - Meditation

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

1hr 17mins

24 Feb 2015

Rank #3

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Episode 12 - Marriage & Relationships with Kristen and Rob Bell

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

48mins

27 Jan 2015

Rank #4

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Episode 20 - LGBTQ

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

2hr 4mins

19 May 2015

Rank #5

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Am I Impure?

Purity culture represents the main narrative around sex education and relationships for many people. It taught us ideas about ourselves and about other people that we often feel like we can't leave behind. In today's episode, Hillary and Michael are joined by Linda Kay Klein as they discuss purity culture and pull apart a story we may tell ourselves: "I am impure."Linda is the author of the book Pure, which covers the sexual purity movement in the evangelical church and the "purity industry" that formed along with it. Her interviews and stories outline the resulting anxiety, fear, and experiences that trap people in a cycle of shame. Sexual shame is not confined to evangelical culture and Linda's book serves as a powerful wake-up call about our society’s subjugation of women.This episode does cover traumatic experiences. We want to offer a content warning as well as suggest some mental health resources for you to use. Speaking with a professional, licensed therapist is a way to work through trauma in a way that is safe and "become stronger at the broken places." You are not alone.You can join us each Sunday to talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. We also talk online everyday. To find out how to join The Liturgists to be a part of that community, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button.Resources:https://www.breakfreetogether.org https://aedpinstitute.org/find-an-aedp-institute-therapist/search/ https://directory.traumahealing.org https://www.emdria.org/search/ https://lifespanintegration.com/directory/ https://www.sensorimotorpsychotherapy.org/directory.html https://sstarnet.org/find-a-therapist/

47mins

23 Jan 2020

Rank #6

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Suffering (Part 1)

This is the first in a three part series dealing with suffering: what is it, how do we cope with it, and how can we address it? Please consider joining with us to help provide clean drinking water to every person on this planet. Learn more at http://theliturgists.com/water

1hr 7mins

1 Nov 2016

Rank #7

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Episode 34 - Black and White: Racism in America

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

1hr 38mins

29 Mar 2016

Rank #8

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Spiritual Trauma

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

2hr 15mins

16 May 2017

Rank #9

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Porn

This week we're talking about porn: what it is, how we feel about it, and what roles is plays in our culture. Joining us in the conversation are the following people: Hillary McBrideMichael GungorWilliam MatthewsMike McHargueKey WilliamsCaroline LeeJenny McHargueKevin Garcia This episode was sponsored by Betterhelp. Get 10% your first month of safe, private, affordable mental health counseling by visiting http://betterhelp.com/liturgists.

2hr 7mins

3 Oct 2019

Rank #10

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Rob Bell and the Bible

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

1hr 15mins

11 Jul 2017

Rank #11

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The Ethics of F***ing (Part 1)

In this episode, we’re talking about how to discern what is right and healthy for people in sexual activity. We’d like to thank our guests on this episode, and we encourage you to check out their work. Bromliegh McCleneghan, Author of Good Christian Sex Darren Calhoun, Artist and Speaker Christopher West, Author, Speaker, Teacher and Expert in John Paul II’s Theology of the Body Caroline Lee, Artist and Photographer Jamie Lee Finch, Relationship Guide, Intuitive Healer Lisa Gungor, Artist and Author

55mins

5 Apr 2018

Rank #12

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Christian (Part 1)

This is the first in a weekly series where we explore two seemingly simple questions: "Do you identify as a Christian," and, "Why or why not."Our guest on this episode is Rachel Held Evans. Her new book about the Bible is called Inspired.We'll be in London, Minneapolis and Nashville for The Liturgists Gathering this fall. We'd love to see you there.

1hr 11mins

20 Sep 2018

Rank #13

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Man

As a followup to Woman, this episode explores masculinity and male identity in a culture striving for equality.

1hr 39mins

26 Jul 2018

Rank #14

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Is All History White History?

History is literally a story we tell ourselves about what happened in the past. The way we tell that story is usually influenced by the people who have cultural and political power. We heard from so many of you from around the world about how whiteness affects our perception of history. In this episode Andre Henry, Propaganda, and Nikki Blak join William Matthews to talk about those influential dynamics.They discuss how we can help others and ourselves by viewing history from several vantage points. We can look into our past to understand ourselves better and use empathy to see the richness other people's stories bring to the tapestry of history.During the month of February we will be releasing a very special project called "Black History Is American History" via daily episodes covering heroes, icons, and titans in American history. We will release them every day on a separate feed you can sign up for and to our members via the member feed. Find out more by going to theliturgists.com/blackhistoryYou can also join us each Sunday to talk with other liturgists around the world and meet in small groups. We also talk online everyday. To find out how to join The Liturgists to be a part of that community, visit theliturgists.com and look for the "Join The Liturgists" button.

34mins

30 Jan 2020

Rank #15

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The Ethics of F***ing (Part 2)

TRIGGER WARNING: The interview with Christopher West in Part 2 could be triggering to members of the LGBTQIA+ community. It's included so people with non-affiriming viewpoints on LGBTQIA+ on sexuality are prompted to examine the implications of that worldview, but we encourge our listners to use discretion before listening to that segment. In this episode, we’re talking about how to discern what is right and healthy for people in sexual activity. We’d like to thank our guests on this episode, and we encourage you to check out their work. Bromliegh McCleneghan, Author of Good Christian Sex Darren Calhoun, Artist and Speaker Christopher West, Author, Speaker, Teacher and Expert in John Paul II’s Theology of the Body Caroline Lee, Artist and Photographer Jamie Lee Finch, Relationship Guide, Intuitive Healer Lisa Gungor, Artist and Author

1hr 48mins

5 Apr 2018

Rank #16

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Episode 1 - Creativity

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

48mins

29 Jul 2014

Rank #17

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How Do We Know What We Know? (Epistemology)

We're talking about epistemology on this episode–the study of truth, belief, and justification. Sound boring? In the age of "fake news," this may be the most important topic we can cover.

1hr 12mins

21 Feb 2017

Rank #18

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Body Image

In this episode, we’re discussing body image–how we view our bodies and the bodies of others. For more, check out Hillary’s book.

1hr 36mins

22 Mar 2018

Rank #19

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Episode 2 - Genesis & Evolution

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

55mins

12 Aug 2014

Rank #20