“We lack CI programs in business school settings, both in the US and internationally and I think that's a deficiency for the profession,” says Dr. Tom Qingjiu Tao, the Assistant Professor of Strategy at the University of Delaware. Throughout his career in education, Dr. Tom has noticed that most Competitive Intelligence professionals are forced to learn more on the job because their education is limited. Finding this to be a disservice to students, Dr. Tom explains why real-world relevance is needed in the classroom to prepare recruits for the CI profession.  Dr. Tom recognizes that the CI academic track is a work in progress. With few programs out there and vital classes reduced to electives, students are graduating college unprepared for their future careers. Although Dr. Tom advocates for curriculum change, he understands that CI theory is still in development and that everyone has to start somewhere. Tune into this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a fascinating conversation on the Competitive Intelligence education track. Learn more about Dr. Tom’s career in academia, why CI educators should cater their coursework to CI job listings, and the obstacle of CEOs making poor decisions. Quotes • “We lack CI courses or CI programs in business school settings, both in the US and internationally. I think that's a deficiency for the profession. We need to get to business school, and we need to build up the programs.” (3:17 - 3:38) • “It is critically important that we research and teach the theory part. But we also need to bring real-world relevance to the classroom.” (5:00 - 5:13) • “It comes down to accountability, not for CI professionals, but for decision-makers and the CEOs. We don't have clear transparency of their decision-making process and we don't hold them accountable for all their decisions.” (29:31 - 29:55) • “20 years ago, many would say that CI is a covert operation that you do under the table. But you can tell in the last 10 years, that it has really become part of the mainstream vocabulary. People are recognizing that this is a legitimate business practice.” (35:58 - 36:32)   Links   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/qingjiutao/   https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

“We lack CI programs in business school settings, both in the US and internationally and I think that's a deficiency for the profession,” says Dr. Tom Qingjiu Tao, the Assistant Professor of Strategy at the University of Delaware. Throughout his career in education, Dr. Tom has noticed that most Competitive Intelligence professionals are forced to learn more on the job because their education is limited. Finding this to be a disservice to students, Dr. Tom explains why real-world relevance is needed in the classroom to prepare recruits for the CI profession.  Dr. Tom recognizes that the CI academic track is a work in progress. With few programs out there and vital classes reduced to electives, students are graduating college unprepared for their future careers. Although Dr. Tom advocates for curriculum change, he understands that CI theory is still in development and that everyone has to start somewhere. Tune into this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a fascinating conversation on the Competitive Intelligence education track. Learn more about Dr. Tom’s career in academia, why CI educators should cater their coursework to CI job listings, and the obstacle of CEOs making poor decisions. Quotes • “We lack CI courses or CI programs in business school settings, both in the US and internationally. I think that's a deficiency for the profession. We need to get to business school, and we need to build up the programs.” (3:17 - 3:38) • “It is critically important that we research and teach the theory part. But we also need to bring real-world relevance to the classroom.” (5:00 - 5:13) • “It comes down to accountability, not for CI professionals, but for decision-makers and the CEOs. We don't have clear transparency of their decision-making process and we don't hold them accountable for all their decisions.” (29:31 - 29:55) • “20 years ago, many would say that CI is a covert operation that you do under the table. But you can tell in the last 10 years, that it has really become part of the mainstream vocabulary. People are recognizing that this is a legitimate business practice.” (35:58 - 36:32) Links LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/qingjiutao/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/qingjiutao/</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

Dr. Tom Tao

BILL BAKER

“Every human being is made on purpose and for a purpose. Seek it,” says Bill Baker, Board Member and Vice President of Sauk Prairie Food Pantry and Youth Mentor. While studying at the University of Madison, Bill found his way to the crew team, a sport he credits for giving him the discipline to succeed in the business world. Now a youth mentor, Bill teaches his mentees to find their purpose and build the foundation for the rest of their lives. Due to his lucrative career in sales and entrepreneurship, Bill realizes that human beings are led by two emotions: hope and fear. He also understands that you can help others find their purpose by using those two emotions positively. Ultimately, Bill wants young people to accept that self-worth comes from within, and by following your path, you can live a happy and fulfilling life. Tune into this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for an inspiring conversation about seeking your purpose. Learn more about how rowing influenced Bill’s worldview, the difference between activity and productivity, and why you need to take care of yourself first to be a better person to others. Quotes • “You have to go past your limits and find out what more you have inside you.” (11:30 - 11:36) • “Find your purpose. Every human being is made on purpose and for a purpose. Seek it.” (20:10 - 20:18)  • “You can't motivate people. You have to inspire people. Motivation is an internal emotion, while inspiration is an external emotion. And we need to inspire more people.” (25:36 - 25:46) • “The two emotions people have in life are hope and fear. I've concluded that people make decisions based on those two emotions. And you can use those as positive emotions to help people navigate their purpose.” (26:45 - 27:01) • “You have to run through the fog of life to find your clear path. And in doing so, you're a better contributor, and you'll find greater satisfaction and contentment in life.” (36:15 - 36:32)   Links   Bill Baker LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-baker-00a943a/ Social Media handles: wisconsintimberworks.com and #wisconsintimberworks (small business created to craft wood projects and fund my charities)    https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

“Every human being is made on purpose and for a purpose. Seek it,” says Bill Baker, Board Member and Vice President of Sauk Prairie Food Pantry and Youth Mentor. While studying at the University of Madison, Bill found his way to the crew team, a sport he credits for giving him the discipline to succeed in the business world. Now a youth mentor, Bill teaches his mentees to find their purpose and build the foundation for the rest of their lives. Due to his lucrative career in sales and entrepreneurship, Bill realizes that human beings are led by two emotions: hope and fear. He also understands that you can help others find their purpose by using those two emotions positively. Ultimately, Bill wants young people to accept that self-worth comes from within, and by following your path, you can live a happy and fulfilling life. Tune into this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for an inspiring conversation about seeking your purpose. Learn more about how rowing influenced Bill’s worldview, the difference between activity and productivity, and why you need to take care of yourself first to be a better person to others. Quotes • “You have to go past your limits and find out what more you have inside you.” (11:30 - 11:36) • “Find your purpose. Every human being is made on purpose and for a purpose. Seek it.” (20:10 - 20:18)  • “You can't motivate people. You have to inspire people. Motivation is an internal emotion, while inspiration is an external emotion. And we need to inspire more people.” (25:36 - 25:46) • “The two emotions people have in life are hope and fear. I've concluded that people make decisions based on those two emotions. And you can use those as positive emotions to help people navigate their purpose.” (26:45 - 27:01) • “You have to run through the fog of life to find your clear path. And in doing so, you're a better contributor, and you'll find greater satisfaction and contentment in life.” (36:15 - 36:32) Links Bill Baker LinkedIn - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-baker-00a943a/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-baker-00a943a/</a> <ul><li>Social Media handles: <a href="http://wisconsintimberworks.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">wisconsintimberworks.com</a> and #wisconsintimberworks (small business created to craft wood projects and fund my charities)</li> </ul> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

Bill Baker

Angie Tuglus

As a natural entrepreneurial leader, Angie Tulgus spent most of her career helping large corporations like GMC successfully navigate transformative moments. After many years of service, Angie decided to leave the corporate world and pursue her own dreams. Angie has since authored the book TransformAble and started her own business, where she uses her expertise to help small start-ups grow and scale their businesses.  According to Angie, to successfully transform your business you need to focus on its people. Not only do you want to get your employees excited about the future, but they need to adopt your vision for the future. The best way to get your employees on track is to focus on developing your leadership skills. If you are fully committed to your core values and the plan to change, your employees will also commit and in return, you are more likely to succeed in any project now and in the future.  Join the Johnson Brothers on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for an in-depth conversation about what it truly takes to transform your business. Learn more about the importance of leadership, commitment, and creating value so you can successfully take your business to the next level.  Quotes • “During all these different transformative programs,  I realized there was a pattern to what I was doing that was making me successful and I really just want to get that out.” (09:32-09:43) • “It doesn't really matter what size of company you are if you're facing something big and complex that you've never done before, my book provides a roadmap for you to help figure out how to do that.” (10:44-10:52) • “The core of successful transformation is all about people. It's about a system of people and how to take them on a journey to get to somewhere new that they haven't been before.” (11:49-12:00) • “If the leaders of the company aren't serious about transformation, forget it.” (25:09-25:12) • “It's amazing to me in small companies how quickly people get used to the way they've always done it. It really does not take long. And this is a big point that holds people back.” (30:03-30:16) • “At the core of successful transformation, there are really three important things. One is commitment. One is knowing how to transform. And the third is keeping a focus on business value. If you can get those three things, you can pull it together.” (35:37-36:00) • “If whatever you're doing isn't going to get you the business value anymore, then you're way off track no matter what.” (36:53-36:58)    Links   Website: https://tuglus.com/ Buy the book: https://tuglus.com/Transformable.html LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angie-tuglus-2809b02/   https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

As a natural entrepreneurial leader, Angie Tulgus spent most of her career helping large corporations like GMC successfully navigate transformative moments. After many years of service, Angie decided to leave the corporate world and pursue her own dreams. Angie has since authored the book TransformAble and started her own business, where she uses her expertise to help small start-ups grow and scale their businesses.  According to Angie, to successfully transform your business you need to focus on its people. Not only do you want to get your employees excited about the future, but they need to adopt your vision for the future. The best way to get your employees on track is to focus on developing your leadership skills. If you are fully committed to your core values and the plan to change, your employees will also commit and in return, you are more likely to succeed in any project now and in the future.  Join the Johnson Brothers on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for an in-depth conversation about what it truly takes to transform your business. Learn more about the importance of leadership, commitment, and creating value so you can successfully take your business to the next level.  Quotes • “During all these different transformative programs,  I realized there was a pattern to what I was doing that was making me successful and I really just want to get that out.” (09:32-09:43) • “It doesn't really matter what size of company you are if you're facing something big and complex that you've never done before, my book provides a roadmap for you to help figure out how to do that.” (10:44-10:52) • “The core of successful transformation is all about people. It's about a system of people and how to take them on a journey to get to somewhere new that they haven't been before.” (11:49-12:00) • “If the leaders of the company aren't serious about transformation, forget it.” (25:09-25:12) • “It's amazing to me in small companies how quickly people get used to the way they've always done it. It really does not take long. And this is a big point that holds people back.” (30:03-30:16) • “At the core of successful transformation, there are really three important things. One is commitment. One is knowing how to transform. And the third is keeping a focus on business value. If you can get those three things, you can pull it together.” (35:37-36:00) • “If whatever you're doing isn't going to get you the business value anymore, then you're way off track no matter what.” (36:53-36:58) Links Website: <a href="https://tuglus.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tuglus.com/</a> Buy the book: <a href="https://tuglus.com/Transformable.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tuglus.com/Transformable.html</a> LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/angie-tuglus-2809b02/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/angie-tuglus-2809b02/</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

Ronnie Weston has always been inspired by her family's past to leave the world a better place. As an attorney and well-accomplished entrepreneur, Ronnie founded Bull Moose Group, a collaborative group of consultants that advise and help nonprofit organizations fulfill their missions. In today’s episode, Ronnie explains how to turn a nonprofit into an investable organization.  According to Ronnie, before you even think about raising a single dollar, you need to make sure your organization has a solid foundation. Not only do you need a good cause, but also great marketing, an exciting website, and a board that is competent in the fundraising process. Once you have a well-established organization, you can begin to focus on raising capital.  Join the Johnson Brothers on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for an in-depth discussion about the process of running nonprofits. Learn more about the importance of teamwork, branding, and how to overcome fear about fundraising so you can successfully raise capital that enriches the lives of the people in your community.    Quotes • “Before we ever raise $1, all the I’s have to be dotted and the T's have to be crossed. You have to have an excellent governance model, great marketing materials, an exciting website, and you need to have a board that understands its role in the fundraising process.” (11:54-12:18) • “The biggest gap in non-profits is nobody wants to ask for money.” (17:26-17:30) • “The more people on the team, the more successful you're going to be.” (18:33-18:36)  • “According to all the gold standards of governance, one of your roles as a board member is to ensure the financial resources and part of that is fundraising.” (18:45-18:55) • “The number one reason why people donate to nonprofits is that somebody they know and respect asked.” (23:47-23:54) • “There are billions of dollars circulating through philanthropy right now. So if you don't ask for donations, somebody else will and they'll give.” (24:07-24:15) • “Whether you entertain them or not, capital campaigns are the rising tide that lifts all boats.” (32:09-32:17)    Links For Ronnie Weston: Website:  website: www.bullmoosegroup.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronnieweston   https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik Johnson LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek Johnson LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

Ronnie Weston has always been inspired by her family's past to leave the world a better place. As an attorney and well-accomplished entrepreneur, Ronnie founded Bull Moose Group, a collaborative group of consultants that advise and help nonprofit organizations fulfill their missions. In today’s episode, Ronnie explains how to turn a nonprofit into an investable organization.  According to Ronnie, before you even think about raising a single dollar, you need to make sure your organization has a solid foundation. Not only do you need a good cause, but also great marketing, an exciting website, and a board that is competent in the fundraising process. Once you have a well-established organization, you can begin to focus on raising capital.  Join the Johnson Brothers on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for an in-depth discussion about the process of running nonprofits. Learn more about the importance of teamwork, branding, and how to overcome fear about fundraising so you can successfully raise capital that enriches the lives of the people in your community.  Quotes • “Before we ever raise $1, all the I’s have to be dotted and the T's have to be crossed. You have to have an excellent governance model, great marketing materials, an exciting website, and you need to have a board that understands its role in the fundraising process.” (11:54-12:18) • “The biggest gap in non-profits is nobody wants to ask for money.” (17:26-17:30) • “The more people on the team, the more successful you're going to be.” (18:33-18:36)  • “According to all the gold standards of governance, one of your roles as a board member is to ensure the financial resources and part of that is fundraising.” (18:45-18:55) • “The number one reason why people donate to nonprofits is that somebody they know and respect asked.” (23:47-23:54) • “There are billions of dollars circulating through philanthropy right now. So if you don't ask for donations, somebody else will and they'll give.” (24:07-24:15) • “Whether you entertain them or not, capital campaigns are the rising tide that lifts all boats.” (32:09-32:17)  Links For Ronnie Weston: Website:  website: <a href="http://www.bullmoosegroup.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.bullmoosegroup.com</a> LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronnieweston" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronnieweston</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik Johnson LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek Johnson LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

Ronnie Weston

Eric Garland

In this episode, co-hosts Arik and Derek Johnson catch up with an old friend, Eric Garland, Executive Director of Competitive Futures, to talk about the world of competitive intelligence. Eric dives into the complexities of competitive intelligence and how technology today gives us the resources to understand a plethora of information. Even though the internet is a great source of information, Eric emphasizes the importance of an “old school” information hub: Human Intelligence, or HUMINT, as it’s called in the field.  Eric also gives his perspectives on a daunting question: What do the 2020s bring? He explains that there are several spasms going on in the world right now and that radical transparencies in our technology are shaking existing institutions to the ground. He shares examples throughout history where technology was able to manipulate our opinions, our time usage, and our everyday lives.  Tune into this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog with special guest Eric Garland. Learn more about the importance of senior intelligence, Eric’s reason for working in the world of intelligence, and the technological history behind many world events.    Quotes • “I got my start in the world of competitive intelligence as an operative and analyst collecting information on competitors, and taking that back to the office and analyzing it to figure out what people's competitors were up to, to tell them what to do.” (02:12-02:20)  • “I still ask what don't I know out there, what's published, what are other people reading, and what's really going on? So, I still use human intelligence methodology for that. Or as I have a T-shirt printed up: HUMINT. We just asked the guy.” (03:37-03:50)  • “All of that radical transparency is causing every institution we have to be shaken to the ground.” (14:38-14:44)  • “Well, there's only so much disillusionment that humans can take at any given time and kind of keep it together. I think sometimes when you have total disillusionment, and you overthrow everything at once, it doesn't always work so well.” (24:26-24:38)  • “I think as we learn more about the role of corporations and some of these anti-democratic movements of recent, that's gonna shake a lot of people's confidence because this internet thing is cool.” (33:50-33:58)    Links Connect with Eric:  Twitter | https://twitter.com/ericgarland  Website | https://www.ericgarland.co/  LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-garland-a1338b99    https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

In this episode, co-hosts Arik and Derek Johnson catch up with an old friend, Eric Garland, Executive Director of Competitive Futures, to talk about the world of competitive intelligence. Eric dives into the complexities of competitive intelligence and how technology today gives us the resources to understand a plethora of information. Even though the internet is a great source of information, Eric emphasizes the importance of an “old school” information hub: Human Intelligence, or HUMINT, as it’s called in the field.  Eric also gives his perspectives on a daunting question: What do the 2020s bring? He explains that there are several spasms going on in the world right now and that radical transparencies in our technology are shaking existing institutions to the ground. He shares examples throughout history where technology was able to manipulate our opinions, our time usage, and our everyday lives.  Tune into this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog with special guest Eric Garland. Learn more about the importance of senior intelligence, Eric’s reason for working in the world of intelligence, and the technological history behind many world events.  Quotes • “I got my start in the world of competitive intelligence as an operative and analyst collecting information on competitors, and taking that back to the office and analyzing it to figure out what people's competitors were up to, to tell them what to do.” (02:12-02:20)  • “I still ask what don't I know out there, what's published, what are other people reading, and what's really going on? So, I still use human intelligence methodology for that. Or as I have a T-shirt printed up: HUMINT. We just asked the guy.” (03:37-03:50)  • “All of that radical transparency is causing every institution we have to be shaken to the ground.” (14:38-14:44)  • “Well, there's only so much disillusionment that humans can take at any given time and kind of keep it together. I think sometimes when you have total disillusionment, and you overthrow everything at once, it doesn't always work so well.” (24:26-24:38)  • “I think as we learn more about the role of corporations and some of these anti-democratic movements of recent, that's gonna shake a lot of people's confidence because this internet thing is cool.” (33:50-33:58)  Links Connect with Eric:  Twitter | <a href="https://twitter.com/ericgarland" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/ericgarland</a> Website | <a href="https://www.ericgarland.co/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.ericgarland.co/</a> LinkedIn | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-garland-a1338b99" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-garland-a1338b99</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

Amy Meyer

In a world with easy access to others, there is a lack of human connection. And while everyone is a neighbor to someone, most people aren’t neighboring. In today’s episode, married duo Jeff and Amy Meyer sit down with the Johnson Brothers to discuss how to overcome isolation and find a connection with those around you.  In a digital and oftentimes material world, it can be easy to lose sight of what really matters. While we spend a lot of our time working and doing activities we enjoy, the places we inhabit are meant for us to relate with other human beings. According to the Meyer’s, one of the easiest and most meaningful gifts we can give to someone else is knowing their name. Just by taking the time to learn someone’s name, we allow ourselves to slow down, see others as human, and begin to form a connection with something greater than ourselves.  Join the Johnson Brothers and the Meyers for an in-depth conversation about human connection. Learn more about the importance of journaling, active listening, and what it truly means to be a neighbor so you can create sustainable and lasting relationships with the people around you.    Quotes • “A lot of people don't believe they can turn their passion into a life and make a living out of it, and we're helping people do that.” (04:31-04:39 | Jeff) • “Just having more information doesn't produce fruit unless you put it into practice.” (06:10-06:17 | Jeff) • “We forget how far we've come and we forget what hard things we've been in before. We get very short-sighted and unless you write it down, you're going to forget.” (13:04-13:20 | Amy) • “The core problem is isolation and lack of human connection. The biggest way that we can attack this problem is by turning neighbor from a noun into a verb.” (19:33-19:51 | Jeff) • “The sweetest word to anyone's ears is the sound of their own name. And to be known and called by name is a gift that we can give to people, but we don't know their name unless we ask or if we take the time to slow down and appreciate them.” (23:24-23:37 | Amy) • “The places we inhabit, we're there for a reason. And it's not just to live or to enjoy our time or to make a living. It's to interconnect with other human beings.” (25:18-25:28 | Jeff) • “Once you start taking steps into the fog, you can see it opening up.” (50:42-50:46 | Jeff)   Links Connect with Amy:  Website – www.amymeyer.org  Email – amycmeyer10@gmail.com Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/joyrestored/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/amymeyer.org Phone – 608.217.9967   Connect with Jeff:  Website – www.jeffmeyer.org  Book Link – https://jeffmeyer.org/product/fear-not-dream-big-execute/  Dream Accelerator Link – https://jeffmeyer.org/dream-accelerator/ Facebook – https://www.facebook.com/jeffmeyer222/  Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/jeffmeyer22/ Twitter – https://twitter.com/jeffmeyer22  LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffmeyer22/   Neighboring Life Website – www.neighboringlife.com    https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

In a world with easy access to others, there is a lack of human connection. And while everyone is a neighbor to someone, most people aren’t neighboring. In today’s episode, married duo Jeff and Amy Meyer sit down with the Johnson Brothers to discuss how to overcome isolation and find a connection with those around you.  In a digital and oftentimes material world, it can be easy to lose sight of what really matters. While we spend a lot of our time working and doing activities we enjoy, the places we inhabit are meant for us to relate with other human beings. According to the Meyer’s, one of the easiest and most meaningful gifts we can give to someone else is knowing their name. Just by taking the time to learn someone’s name, we allow ourselves to slow down, see others as human, and begin to form a connection with something greater than ourselves.  Join the Johnson Brothers and the Meyers for an in-depth conversation about human connection. Learn more about the importance of journaling, active listening, and what it truly means to be a neighbor so you can create sustainable and lasting relationships with the people around you.  Quotes • “A lot of people don't believe they can turn their passion into a life and make a living out of it, and we're helping people do that.” (04:31-04:39 | Jeff) • “Just having more information doesn't produce fruit unless you put it into practice.” (06:10-06:17 | Jeff) • “We forget how far we've come and we forget what hard things we've been in before. We get very short-sighted and unless you write it down, you're going to forget.” (13:04-13:20 | Amy) • “The core problem is isolation and lack of human connection. The biggest way that we can attack this problem is by turning neighbor from a noun into a verb.” (19:33-19:51 | Jeff) • “The sweetest word to anyone's ears is the sound of their own name. And to be known and called by name is a gift that we can give to people, but we don't know their name unless we ask or if we take the time to slow down and appreciate them.” (23:24-23:37 | Amy) • “The places we inhabit, we're there for a reason. And it's not just to live or to enjoy our time or to make a living. It's to interconnect with other human beings.” (25:18-25:28 | Jeff) • “Once you start taking steps into the fog, you can see it opening up.” (50:42-50:46 | Jeff) Links Connect with Amy:  Website – <a href="http://www.amymeyer.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.amymeyer.org</a> Email – <a href="mailto:amycmeyer10@gmail.com">amycmeyer10@gmail.com</a> Instagram – <a href="https://www.instagram.com/joyrestored/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/joyrestored/</a> Facebook – <a href="https://www.facebook.com/amymeyer.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/amymeyer.org</a> Phone – 608.217.9967 Connect with Jeff:  Website – <a href="http://www.jeffmeyer.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jeffmeyer.org</a> Book Link – <a href="https://jeffmeyer.org/product/fear-not-dream-big-execute/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://jeffmeyer.org/product/fear-not-dream-big-execute/</a> Dream Accelerator Link – <a href="https://jeffmeyer.org/dream-accelerator/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://jeffmeyer.org/dream-accelerator/</a> Facebook – <a href="https://www.facebook.com/jeffmeyer222/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/jeffmeyer222/</a> Instagram – <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jeffmeyer22/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/jeffmeyer22/</a> Twitter – <a href="https://twitter.com/jeffmeyer22" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/jeffmeyer22</a> LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffmeyer22/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffmeyer22/</a> Neighboring Life Website – <a href="http://www.neighboringlife.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.neighboringlife.com</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

Jeff and Amy Meyer

Kathy Henrich understands the role the tech industry plays better than most people. After spending 30 years working at IBM, Kathy realized there was a bigger problem that needed to be addressed: talent development. She ultimately decided to take a leave of absence to attain a master’s degree in workforce and talent development. Today, Kathy sits as CEO of MKE Tech Hub Coalition where she works to create inclusive opportunities in the tech industry for young people in the Milwaukee area.  Even though the tech industry makes up almost 10% of Wisconsin’s economy, there is a lack of talented employees. According to Kathy, the best way to recruit talent is to nurture it from a young age. This is why it would benefit all schools to incorporate computer science into their curriculum. Kathy explains that encouraging kids of diverse backgrounds to embrace the value of technology opens pathways to employment that can positively impact not only the individual but the industry as a whole.  Join the Johnson Brothers on this week’s episode of Running into the Fog for a conversation with Kathy Henrich about the depth of the tech industry. Learn more about why Kathy and the MKE Tech Hub Coalition believe diversity, recruitment, and development of talent are the keys to paving the future for technology in the Milwaukee area and beyond.    Quotes • “The mission of the coalition is to inclusively double tech talent in the Milwaukee region.” (04:48-04:53) • “We actually infused a focus on diversity, equity, and inclusion including a very specific target of at least 50% of everyone we serve coming from demographics that have been traditionally underrepresented in tech.” (07:34-07:50) • “Having an effective coalition means working together in ways that bring the best skill sets from other organizations forward to deliver.” (12:53-13:06) • “The Milwaukee region has a huge asset. We actually have the sixth-highest concentration of college students per capita.” (22:42-22:50) • “Tech is nine and a half percent of our economy.” (27:35-27:38)   Links Connect with Kathy:  LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathyhenrich/ Website – https://www.mketech.org/ Twitter – https://twitter.com/kshenri Instagram – @kshenri and @Kathyhenrich    https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

Kathy Henrich understands the role the tech industry plays better than most people. After spending 30 years working at IBM, Kathy realized there was a bigger problem that needed to be addressed: talent development. She ultimately decided to take a leave of absence to attain a master’s degree in workforce and talent development. Today, Kathy sits as CEO of MKE Tech Hub Coalition where she works to create inclusive opportunities in the tech industry for young people in the Milwaukee area.  Even though the tech industry makes up almost 10% of Wisconsin’s economy, there is a lack of talented employees. According to Kathy, the best way to recruit talent is to nurture it from a young age. This is why it would benefit all schools to incorporate computer science into their curriculum. Kathy explains that encouraging kids of diverse backgrounds to embrace the value of technology opens pathways to employment that can positively impact not only the individual but the industry as a whole.  Join the Johnson Brothers on this week’s episode of Running into the Fog for a conversation with Kathy Henrich about the depth of the tech industry. Learn more about why Kathy and the MKE Tech Hub Coalition believe diversity, recruitment, and development of talent are the keys to paving the future for technology in the Milwaukee area and beyond.  Quotes • “The mission of the coalition is to inclusively double tech talent in the Milwaukee region.” (04:48-04:53) • “We actually infused a focus on diversity, equity, and inclusion including a very specific target of at least 50% of everyone we serve coming from demographics that have been traditionally underrepresented in tech.” (07:34-07:50) • “Having an effective coalition means working together in ways that bring the best skill sets from other organizations forward to deliver.” (12:53-13:06) • “The Milwaukee region has a huge asset. We actually have the sixth-highest concentration of college students per capita.” (22:42-22:50) • “Tech is nine and a half percent of our economy.” (27:35-27:38) Links Connect with Kathy:  LinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathyhenrich/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathyhenrich/</a> Website – <a href="https://www.mketech.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.mketech.org/</a> Twitter – <a href="https://twitter.com/kshenri" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/kshenri</a> Instagram – @kshenri and @Kathyhenrich  <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

Kathy Henrich

“I am fascinated by the idea of how to build trust and safe spaces in the online world,” says Todd Nilson. Growing up, Todd was never interested in playing sports. Instead, he found himself enamored with both tabletop games and immersive online games. As president and community strategist at Clocktower Advisors, Todd combines his passions for gamification and community-building by helping companies create and run digital workplaces that deepen trust, increase loyalty, and promote innovation.  In a continuously advancing world, more and more people are connecting online through various social media platforms. While these platforms successfully spread information, they lack the feeling of an authentic community.  According to Todd, creating a safe space online is dependent on transparency, good management practices, and a community with common interests. If properly executed, online immersive communities have the potential to change the way we interact in every aspect of our lives.  Join the Johnson Brothers on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Todd Nilson. Learn more about the differences between social media and online communities, the importance of positive engagement, and where experts like Todd believe the future of online interactions is headed.    Quotes • “I'm fascinated by the idea of how to build trust and safe spaces in the online world where people can meaningfully get together and connect and do things with each other when geography makes it impossible.” (08:31-08:49) • “I don't think of social media platforms as communities.” (14:58-15:00) • “What makes online communities work is that there are clear boundaries of who belongs here and who doesn't.” (26:44-26:49) • “I think that we're going to see a strong migration away from some of the large platforms to more of these private community social experiences simply because we want to be around people that we can trust.” (27:27-27:52) • “What I'm loving about NFTs is that they're offering something that is a unique marker of accomplishment, recognizing participation, and then offering equity in that community.” (37:23-37:40) • “We're not only building communities of people who have common values with each other, but they're also geographically close to each other.” (42:22-42:28) • “These online spaces are play spaces where we can experiment with identities.” (48:45-48:54)   Links Connect with Todd:  Personal LinkedIn |  https://www.linkedin.com/in/tnilson  Company Page on LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/company/clocktower-advisors/  Personal Twitter | https://twitter.com/toddnilson  Company Twitter |  https://twitter.com/ClocktowerAdv  Facebook Page |  https://www.facebook.com/clocktoweradvisors  Instagram |  https://www.instagram.com/clocktoweradvisors/  Mobile |  +1.414.378.2083  Email | todd@clocktoweradvisors.com    Schedule a meeting with Todd:  Short meeting: https://calendly.com/clocktower-advisors/30min  Long meeting: https://calendly.com/clocktower-advisors/60min    https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

“I am fascinated by the idea of how to build trust and safe spaces in the online world,” says Todd Nilson. Growing up, Todd was never interested in playing sports. Instead, he found himself enamored with both tabletop games and immersive online games. As president and community strategist at Clocktower Advisors, Todd combines his passions for gamification and community-building by helping companies create and run digital workplaces that deepen trust, increase loyalty, and promote innovation.  In a continuously advancing world, more and more people are connecting online through various social media platforms. While these platforms successfully spread information, they lack the feeling of an authentic community.  According to Todd, creating a safe space online is dependent on transparency, good management practices, and a community with common interests. If properly executed, online immersive communities have the potential to change the way we interact in every aspect of our lives.  Join the Johnson Brothers on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Todd Nilson. Learn more about the differences between social media and online communities, the importance of positive engagement, and where experts like Todd believe the future of online interactions is headed.  Quotes • “I'm fascinated by the idea of how to build trust and safe spaces in the online world where people can meaningfully get together and connect and do things with each other when geography makes it impossible.” (08:31-08:49) • “I don't think of social media platforms as communities.” (14:58-15:00) • “What makes online communities work is that there are clear boundaries of who belongs here and who doesn't.” (26:44-26:49) • “I think that we're going to see a strong migration away from some of the large platforms to more of these private community social experiences simply because we want to be around people that we can trust.” (27:27-27:52) • “What I'm loving about NFTs is that they're offering something that is a unique marker of accomplishment, recognizing participation, and then offering equity in that community.” (37:23-37:40) • “We're not only building communities of people who have common values with each other, but they're also geographically close to each other.” (42:22-42:28) • “These online spaces are play spaces where we can experiment with identities.” (48:45-48:54) Links Connect with Todd:  Personal LinkedIn | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tnilson" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> https://www.linkedin.com/in/tnilson </a> Company Page on LinkedIn | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/clocktower-advisors/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/clocktower-advisors/</a> Personal Twitter | <a href="https://twitter.com/toddnilson" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/toddnilson</a> Company Twitter |  <a href="https://twitter.com/ClocktowerAdv" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/ClocktowerAdv</a> Facebook Page |  <a href="https://www.facebook.com/clocktoweradvisors" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/clocktoweradvisors</a> Instagram |  <a href="https://www.instagram.com/clocktoweradvisors/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/clocktoweradvisors/</a> Mobile |  +1.414.378.2083  Email | todd@clocktoweradvisors.com  Schedule a meeting with Todd:  Short meeting: <a href="https://calendly.com/clocktower-advisors/30min" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://calendly.com/clocktower-advisors/30min</a> Long meeting: <a href="https://calendly.com/clocktower-advisors/60min" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://calendly.com/clocktower-advisors/60min</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

Todd Nilson

Jasmine Johnson

“Everyone has privilege, but it’s how you use your privilege that matters,” says Jasmine M. Johnson. Jasmine works full-time as the Vice President of Sales at iHeartMedia and uses the privilege of her network to give back to the community. As director of the non-profit organization WeExist, Jasmine is dedicated to providing exposure to minority professionals in the Milwaukee area in hopes of creating equitable job opportunities.  While everyone has a sense of privilege, most people tend to do nothing with it. Rather than allowing generational injustice to continue, Jasmine uses her privileges to better the community around her. Jasmine understands that visibility is key to advancing your career. By increasing exposure for minority professionals, Jasmine hopes to see people of color included in spaces they historically wouldn’t be in. If everyone took advantage of their privilege, Jasmine explains that we could leave behind a legacy of advocacy and excellence for generations to come. Join the Johnson Brothers on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Jasmine Johnson. Learn more about the importance of servant leadership, diversity in the workforce, and how to leverage your privilege to advocate for what’s right.    Quotes • “During COVID-19 and quarantine, the gift of recalibration and reflection we were given showed me the privilege that I have.” (09:45-09:59) • “I come from a legacy and heritage of advocacy and expectation of excellence.” (11:58-12:03) • “To me, privilege is the platform of which you've been blessed to be on. Everyone should be a service leader and practice servant leadership by living a Christian life of service to others.” (13:11-13:27) • “Some people sit on their privilege and they don't leverage that platform to be a blessing to others. And when you do that, are you really walking with a sense of purpose?” (13:50-14:01) • “Giving talented people the opportunity to compete is how you eliminate the wealth gap. It also gives the opportunity for people to continue to grow and thrive professionally, which ultimately increases household income and creates generational wealth.” (29:36-29:57) • “Because many professional people of color are not allowed or invited in those circles, or are on the golf course, or get the stretch assignments, they can never be truly considered. So I look at WeExist as the gift of giving exposure.” (31:31-31:51) • “I think intentional partnerships is also what activates and takes someone to the next level from being an ally to wholeheartedly being an accomplice.” (41:18-41:29)   Links Connect with Jasmine:  Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasmine-m-johnson-msm-33699350/detail/photo/   https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

“Everyone has privilege, but it’s how you use your privilege that matters,” says Jasmine M. Johnson. Jasmine works full-time as the Vice President of Sales at iHeartMedia and uses the privilege of her network to give back to the community. As director of the non-profit organization WeExist, Jasmine is dedicated to providing exposure to minority professionals in the Milwaukee area in hopes of creating equitable job opportunities.  While everyone has a sense of privilege, most people tend to do nothing with it. Rather than allowing generational injustice to continue, Jasmine uses her privileges to better the community around her. Jasmine understands that visibility is key to advancing your career. By increasing exposure for minority professionals, Jasmine hopes to see people of color included in spaces they historically wouldn’t be in. If everyone took advantage of their privilege, Jasmine explains that we could leave behind a legacy of advocacy and excellence for generations to come. Join the Johnson Brothers on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Jasmine Johnson. Learn more about the importance of servant leadership, diversity in the workforce, and how to leverage your privilege to advocate for what’s right.  Quotes • “During COVID-19 and quarantine, the gift of recalibration and reflection we were given showed me the privilege that I have.” (09:45-09:59) • “I come from a legacy and heritage of advocacy and expectation of excellence.” (11:58-12:03) • “To me, privilege is the platform of which you've been blessed to be on. Everyone should be a service leader and practice servant leadership by living a Christian life of service to others.” (13:11-13:27) • “Some people sit on their privilege and they don't leverage that platform to be a blessing to others. And when you do that, are you really walking with a sense of purpose?” (13:50-14:01) • “Giving talented people the opportunity to compete is how you eliminate the wealth gap. It also gives the opportunity for people to continue to grow and thrive professionally, which ultimately increases household income and creates generational wealth.” (29:36-29:57) • “Because many professional people of color are not allowed or invited in those circles, or are on the golf course, or get the stretch assignments, they can never be truly considered. So I look at WeExist as the gift of giving exposure.” (31:31-31:51) • “I think intentional partnerships is also what activates and takes someone to the next level from being an ally to wholeheartedly being an accomplice.” (41:18-41:29) Links Connect with Jasmine:  Linkedin | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasmine-m-johnson-msm-33699350/detail/photo/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasmine-m-johnson-msm-33699350/detail/photo/</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

As a teenager, Jesse Ntihemuka immigrated from Rwanda to the United States at the age of 14, in pursuit of his dream of playing in the NBA. When his body (through injuries) had other ideas for him, Jesse pivoted his mindset to pursue higher education. His college experience is coming to a close in the near future, and he is preparing to go pro within the intersections of finance and technology. In today’s episode, Jesse dives into his realities of being an immigrant in America pursuing his dreams. When it comes to his goals, Jesse isn’t motivated by money or power. Instead, Jesse motivates himself with a positive mindset and the intention to create change. Whether it's in basketball, his MBA program, or working as an intern, Jesse is deeply committed to showing up prepared and eager to learn. Starting a career is nerve-wracking, but Jesse is optimistic about the future of technology and his role in improving the quality of life for his family in Rwanda.  Join the Johnson Brothers on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Jesse Ntihmuka. Learn about the importance of meaningful work, the role of a good support system, and Jesse’s plans that will guide him to success.    Quotes • “Meaningful work for me is being able to work my hardest and reach the highest level I can.” (12:22-12:31) • “What really sets me apart is the amount of time and the amount of preparation that I put in everything.” (18:36-18:47) • “I try to show that I've put in some work, but I’m always willing and open to learning more.” (21:20-21:27) • “I’m still trying to learn what it takes to build a business here. I know it takes a lot, and I’m certainly ready to take it on because I see myself doing something entrepreneurial in the future.” (31:58-32:15) • “I’m happy that I've had a support system with me the whole time to always motivate me and help put me on the path where I can reach my potential.” (36:33-36:44) • “I'm looking forward to that learning curve, especially with new technologies and how fast it's evolving. I hope to not just keep pace with it, but try and stay ahead of it to exploit some of the opportunities that may present themselves.” (40:06-40:24)   Links Connect with Jesse:  Twitter | https://twitter.com/ntihemukaj?lang=en  Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessentihemuka   https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

As a teenager, Jesse Ntihemuka immigrated from Rwanda to the United States at the age of 14, in pursuit of his dream of playing in the NBA. When his body (through injuries) had other ideas for him, Jesse pivoted his mindset to pursue higher education. His college experience is coming to a close in the near future, and he is preparing to go pro within the intersections of finance and technology. In today’s episode, Jesse dives into his realities of being an immigrant in America pursuing his dreams. When it comes to his goals, Jesse isn’t motivated by money or power. Instead, Jesse motivates himself with a positive mindset and the intention to create change. Whether it's in basketball, his MBA program, or working as an intern, Jesse is deeply committed to showing up prepared and eager to learn. Starting a career is nerve-wracking, but Jesse is optimistic about the future of technology and his role in improving the quality of life for his family in Rwanda.  Join the Johnson Brothers on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Jesse Ntihmuka. Learn about the importance of meaningful work, the role of a good support system, and Jesse’s plans that will guide him to success.  Quotes • “Meaningful work for me is being able to work my hardest and reach the highest level I can.” (12:22-12:31) • “What really sets me apart is the amount of time and the amount of preparation that I put in everything.” (18:36-18:47) • “I try to show that I've put in some work, but I’m always willing and open to learning more.” (21:20-21:27) • “I’m still trying to learn what it takes to build a business here. I know it takes a lot, and I’m certainly ready to take it on because I see myself doing something entrepreneurial in the future.” (31:58-32:15) • “I’m happy that I've had a support system with me the whole time to always motivate me and help put me on the path where I can reach my potential.” (36:33-36:44) • “I'm looking forward to that learning curve, especially with new technologies and how fast it's evolving. I hope to not just keep pace with it, but try and stay ahead of it to exploit some of the opportunities that may present themselves.” (40:06-40:24) Links Connect with Jesse:  Twitter | <a href="https://twitter.com/ntihemukaj?lang=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/ntihemukaj?lang=en</a> Linkedin | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessentihemuka" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessentihemuka</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

Jesse Ntihemuka

Arik and Derek Johnson will be talking with friends and industry leaders documenting their ‘running into the fog’ journeys, navigating the unknown and under-certainties they’ve had to cope with in their professional and personal lives. This podcast is for established business leaders and emerging entrepreneurs who are interested in developing strategies to adapt to competitive and market forces around them, enabling them to reposition consistently when conditions warrant. Getting comfortable with discomfort, the Johnson Brothers are here to champion your cause and help you see the path forward.

Tommy Goodwin

“Pre-pandemic, in-person events contributed roughly $396 billion a year to the GDP,” says Tommy Goodwin, Vice President of Government Affairs for the Exhibitions &amp; Conferences Alliance (ECA). The loss of in-person business events has been devastating to millions of people and companies worldwide. With more than 20 years of experience in public relations, Tommy’s role is to work side by side with policymakers to help with the recovery and advancement of in-person business events.  According to Tommy, the tradeshow industry may be the largest and most important industry in the world. Not only are there millions of dollars in direct spending, but the events business provides millions of jobs to the American people. Even though we have mastered online education, Tommy explains that face-to-face events provide unique opportunities that online platforms can’t. To protect our economies and small businesses, we must work to safely return attendees and exhibitors back to face-to-face events. Tune into this week’s episode of Running into the Fog for a conversation with Tommy Goodwin about the effects of in-person events on our economy. Learn more about the ECA, the importance of in-person connection, and what Tommy believes the future of business networking looks like.    Quotes • “We have 1.7 million vendors at shows every year and 80% of them are small businesses. These people are looking to make relationships, they're looking to grow and cultivate their business in a way that they normally can not do.” (05:09-05:20) • “We have done a pretty solid one-way proof of concept that education can be delivered in a digital format, but community and connections can’t be.” (06:04-06:13) • “That's why we break bread at these different events because it allows people to develop the trust they need to do business with each other and you just can't do that off the jump online.” (15:17-15:27) • “As long as international restrictions are in place, we're putting a significant impediment and barrier into the ability to do business face-to-face.” (20:02-20:11) • “Just going from zero to wherever they are in the maturity cycle of regrowing these events is a tremendous boom to local communities.” (32:34-32:44)   Links Connect with Tommy:  Twitter | https://twitter.com/tommygoodwin Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/tommygoodwin    https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

“Pre-pandemic, in-person events contributed roughly $396 billion a year to the GDP,” says Tommy Goodwin, Vice President of Government Affairs for the Exhibitions &amp; Conferences Alliance (ECA). The loss of in-person business events has been devastating to millions of people and companies worldwide. With more than 20 years of experience in public relations, Tommy’s role is to work side by side with policymakers to help with the recovery and advancement of in-person business events.  According to Tommy, the tradeshow industry may be the largest and most important industry in the world. Not only are there millions of dollars in direct spending, but the events business provides millions of jobs to the American people. Even though we have mastered online education, Tommy explains that face-to-face events provide unique opportunities that online platforms can’t. To protect our economies and small businesses, we must work to safely return attendees and exhibitors back to face-to-face events. Tune into this week’s episode of Running into the Fog for a conversation with Tommy Goodwin about the effects of in-person events on our economy. Learn more about the ECA, the importance of in-person connection, and what Tommy believes the future of business networking looks like.  Quotes • “We have 1.7 million vendors at shows every year and 80% of them are small businesses. These people are looking to make relationships, they're looking to grow and cultivate their business in a way that they normally can not do.” (05:09-05:20) • “We have done a pretty solid one-way proof of concept that education can be delivered in a digital format, but community and connections can’t be.” (06:04-06:13) • “That's why we break bread at these different events because it allows people to develop the trust they need to do business with each other and you just can't do that off the jump online.” (15:17-15:27) • “As long as international restrictions are in place, we're putting a significant impediment and barrier into the ability to do business face-to-face.” (20:02-20:11) • “Just going from zero to wherever they are in the maturity cycle of regrowing these events is a tremendous boom to local communities.” (32:34-32:44) Links Connect with Tommy:  Twitter | <a href="https://twitter.com/tommygoodwin" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/tommygoodwin</a> Linkedin | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tommygoodwin" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tommygoodwin</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

Marshall Wayne

Marshall Wayne, “The Mounting Man,” has spent most of his career marketing live events for successful entrepreneurs. When the pandemic hit and live, in-person events were temporarily shut down, Marshall had to think outside of the box for ways to replace his lost revenue. Marshall realized that he could make more than enough money to support his family by helping people in his community mount their TVs. Using his expertise in marketing, Marshall has grown his business to fully replace his income at the agency in just a little over a year.  When Marshall was brainstorming business ideas, it was important for him to have a flexible schedule. With the pandemic in full force and daycare slots being limited, Marshall had to be home to help his fiance take care of their daughter. This is when Marshall learned how to mount his own TV and quickly understood that he could make great money in a short amount of time. While he wants to stick primarily to mounting TVs, Marshall realizes there are other opportunities to make money helping people around their homes. Even though Marshall has encountered many challenges with TV mounting, he has always found a way to get the job done. Join the Johnson Brothers and Marshall Wayne on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog to hear how The Mounting Man came to be. Learn more about the issues that Marshall has encountered in his first year of business, his plans to expand, and how he utilized his skills to pivot his career in a completely different direction.    Quotes •  “If you're good at marketing, you can market anything.” (03:35-03:37) • “All the things that I market for the agency are live events, and so during COVID that just went to zero. The revenue didn't go to zero, but it went to like a quarter and that's essentially zero.” (05:35-05:49) • “Mounting TVs is what made the most money for the least amount of time.” (06:32-06:35) • “I am a lot pickier about what I take on for the agency because I can just go make another $1,000 today mounting TVs.” (18:34-18:40) • “I don't expect somebody to treat my business the way I would treat it because I'm making the money. It's my baby. But you have to have some sort of level for your employees to reach.” (32:24-32:35) • “I want to stick to TV mountain primarily, but I want all the other upsells that I could have. Because once a person has two or three TVs mounted in their house, they're not going to have 10 TVs so I don't have repeat business from the same people unless I branch out a little bit.” (40:40-41:02)   Links Connect with Marshall:  Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/marshallwayne/ Website | http://themountingman.tv/   https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

Marshall Wayne, “The Mounting Man,” has spent most of his career marketing live events for successful entrepreneurs. When the pandemic hit and live, in-person events were temporarily shut down, Marshall had to think outside of the box for ways to replace his lost revenue. Marshall realized that he could make more than enough money to support his family by helping people in his community mount their TVs. Using his expertise in marketing, Marshall has grown his business to fully replace his income at the agency in just a little over a year.  When Marshall was brainstorming business ideas, it was important for him to have a flexible schedule. With the pandemic in full force and daycare slots being limited, Marshall had to be home to help his fiance take care of their daughter. This is when Marshall learned how to mount his own TV and quickly understood that he could make great money in a short amount of time. While he wants to stick primarily to mounting TVs, Marshall realizes there are other opportunities to make money helping people around their homes. Even though Marshall has encountered many challenges with TV mounting, he has always found a way to get the job done. Join the Johnson Brothers and Marshall Wayne on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog to hear how The Mounting Man came to be. Learn more about the issues that Marshall has encountered in his first year of business, his plans to expand, and how he utilized his skills to pivot his career in a completely different direction.  Quotes •  “If you're good at marketing, you can market anything.” (03:35-03:37) • “All the things that I market for the agency are live events, and so during COVID that just went to zero. The revenue didn't go to zero, but it went to like a quarter and that's essentially zero.” (05:35-05:49) • “Mounting TVs is what made the most money for the least amount of time.” (06:32-06:35) • “I am a lot pickier about what I take on for the agency because I can just go make another $1,000 today mounting TVs.” (18:34-18:40) • “I don't expect somebody to treat my business the way I would treat it because I'm making the money. It's my baby. But you have to have some sort of level for your employees to reach.” (32:24-32:35) • “I want to stick to TV mountain primarily, but I want all the other upsells that I could have. Because once a person has two or three TVs mounted in their house, they're not going to have 10 TVs so I don't have repeat business from the same people unless I branch out a little bit.” (40:40-41:02) Links Connect with Marshall:  Linkedin | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/marshallwayne/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/marshallwayne/</a> Website | <a href="http://themountingman.tv/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://themountingman.tv/</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

“The reason you work in a drug company is for patients,” says Clifford Kalb, President of C. Kalb &amp; Associates, LLC. Clifford has dedicated the last four decades of his life to improving intelligence in the pharmaceutical industry. His wide range of experience has given him opportunities to work at the executive level for many of the well-known pharma companies, including Pfizer. Clifford’s passion for innovation and leadership in the industry was solidified after his life was saved by a drug he helped get on the market. Today, Clifford proudly owns and operates his own pharma consultancy where he assists clients in ethically overcoming industry issues to provide better health solutions.  Eleven years ago, Clifford was diagnosed with an incredibly rare back disease. In fact, he was one of only twenty people to receive this diagnosis during the 21st century. While Clifford’s initial chance of survival looked bleak, he and his doctor decided to take a risk and try a drug that was new to the market. Ultimately, it was Clifford’s trust in his product’s mission that granted him a second chance at life. Even though there are many misconceptions about the morals of the industry, Clifford explains that the number one goal isn’t to create a profit, but rather to develop solutions that save lives.  Join the Johnson Brothers and Clifford Kalb on this week’s episode of Running into the Fog to hear about Clifford’s experience with the pharmaceutical industry from the perspective of a leader and a patient. Learn more about key industry topics and how intelligence is working to create a safer and healthier world for generations to come.    Quotes • “The reason you work in a drug company is for patients. It's not all about making money. It's not all about ultimately coming up with the best dosage form or the most competitive marketing plan or the most developed R&amp;D program. It's about helping people to either return from an illness or to prevent them from getting one.” (07:56-08:19)  • “I wouldn't be here telling you about the pharmaceutical industry and my travels through it if it wasn't for this medicine, which saved my life.”  (09:06-09:18)  • “Because of this mRNA technology that you've heard about, which has never been tried before to produce a vaccine, many steps in vaccine development are completely eliminated. Which means the future of vaccine development is going to now follow the mRNA pattern. And the old technology will be dropped.” (29:02-29:23) • “85% of the US market is treated with generic drugs and 15% of it is treated with branded drugs.”(47:45-47:52).  • “At the end of the day, the marketing R&amp;D interface inside the drug company is probably the single most important one to work.” (56:56-57:04) Links https://www.cifellows.com/about-us/members/clifford-kalb/  https://www.linkedin.com/in/cliffordkalb/   https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

“The reason you work in a drug company is for patients,” says Clifford Kalb, President of C. Kalb &amp; Associates, LLC. Clifford has dedicated the last four decades of his life to improving intelligence in the pharmaceutical industry. His wide range of experience has given him opportunities to work at the executive level for many of the well-known pharma companies, including Pfizer. Clifford’s passion for innovation and leadership in the industry was solidified after his life was saved by a drug he helped get on the market. Today, Clifford proudly owns and operates his own pharma consultancy where he assists clients in ethically overcoming industry issues to provide better health solutions.  Eleven years ago, Clifford was diagnosed with an incredibly rare back disease. In fact, he was one of only twenty people to receive this diagnosis during the 21st century. While Clifford’s initial chance of survival looked bleak, he and his doctor decided to take a risk and try a drug that was new to the market. Ultimately, it was Clifford’s trust in his product’s mission that granted him a second chance at life. Even though there are many misconceptions about the morals of the industry, Clifford explains that the number one goal isn’t to create a profit, but rather to develop solutions that save lives.  Join the Johnson Brothers and Clifford Kalb on this week’s episode of Running into the Fog to hear about Clifford’s experience with the pharmaceutical industry from the perspective of a leader and a patient. Learn more about key industry topics and how intelligence is working to create a safer and healthier world for generations to come.  Quotes • “The reason you work in a drug company is for patients. It's not all about making money. It's not all about ultimately coming up with the best dosage form or the most competitive marketing plan or the most developed R&amp;D program. It's about helping people to either return from an illness or to prevent them from getting one.” (07:56-08:19)  • “I wouldn't be here telling you about the pharmaceutical industry and my travels through it if it wasn't for this medicine, which saved my life.”  (09:06-09:18)  • “Because of this mRNA technology that you've heard about, which has never been tried before to produce a vaccine, many steps in vaccine development are completely eliminated. Which means the future of vaccine development is going to now follow the mRNA pattern. And the old technology will be dropped.” (29:02-29:23) • “85% of the US market is treated with generic drugs and 15% of it is treated with branded drugs.”(47:45-47:52).  • “At the end of the day, the marketing R&amp;D interface inside the drug company is probably the single most important one to work.” (56:56-57:04) Links <a href="https://www.cifellows.com/about-us/members/clifford-kalb/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.cifellows.com/about-us/members/clifford-kalb/</a> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cliffordkalb/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/cliffordkalb/</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

Clifford Kalb

Bill Mitchell

“As leaders, not only do we control the narrative, but we have to be constant purveyors of hope,” says Bill Mitchell, COO for MoreTalent Corporation. For the past 25 years, Bill has worked with hundreds of corporations and high-level executives to develop ethical practices that produce sustainable success. His unique insights have helped struggling clients to effectively lead their businesses through the troubling COVID-19 pandemic.  In politics, whoever is in control of the narrative has the upper hand; according to Bill, the same could be said for business. While it may be easier to get distracted in the midst of a global pandemic, a strong leader will concentrate on maintaining the company’s narrative at all times by working to keep their employees focused. Leaders have a duty to lead their people in good faith, so before you begin to enforce any organization’s narrative, Bill explains that you must first confront brutal facts and base your objectives on truth. But above all else, the biggest role of a leader is to convey a sense of hope.  Join the Jo Bros and Bill Mitchell on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog to learn more about the rules of effective leadership, the importance of hope, and how to create a business that thrives in the chaos of a constantly changing world.    Quotes • “The bottom line is the effective executives are going to spend about 80% of their time working on the business and not in it.” (06:26-06:38) • “For people who are longing for yesterday or hoping for a better tomorrow, I would suggest to them to figure out this is what it is. We make the best of what it is, we learn from yesterday, and we prepare for tomorrow, but we live in the moment. And I think it's important as businesses that we understand that more than ever.” (07:00-07:19)  • “When we don't have control of many things, we've got to make sure we have full control of the things we can.” (07:51-07:55) • “In times of uncertainty, the best thing we can do is stick to what we know.” (20:33-20:42) • “As leaders,not only do we control the narrative, but we have to be constant purveyors of hope.” (25:30-25:34)   Links https://moretalent.com/success-experts/dr-bill-mitchell/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-bill-mitchell-8a7745143/   https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

“As leaders, not only do we control the narrative, but we have to be constant purveyors of hope,” says Bill Mitchell, COO for MoreTalent Corporation. For the past 25 years, Bill has worked with hundreds of corporations and high-level executives to develop ethical practices that produce sustainable success. His unique insights have helped struggling clients to effectively lead their businesses through the troubling COVID-19 pandemic.  In politics, whoever is in control of the narrative has the upper hand; according to Bill, the same could be said for business. While it may be easier to get distracted in the midst of a global pandemic, a strong leader will concentrate on maintaining the company’s narrative at all times by working to keep their employees focused. Leaders have a duty to lead their people in good faith, so before you begin to enforce any organization’s narrative, Bill explains that you must first confront brutal facts and base your objectives on truth. But above all else, the biggest role of a leader is to convey a sense of hope.  Join the Jo Bros and Bill Mitchell on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog to learn more about the rules of effective leadership, the importance of hope, and how to create a business that thrives in the chaos of a constantly changing world.  Quotes • “The bottom line is the effective executives are going to spend about 80% of their time working on the business and not in it.” (06:26-06:38) • “For people who are longing for yesterday or hoping for a better tomorrow, I would suggest to them to figure out this is what it is. We make the best of what it is, we learn from yesterday, and we prepare for tomorrow, but we live in the moment. And I think it's important as businesses that we understand that more than ever.” (07:00-07:19)  • “When we don't have control of many things, we've got to make sure we have full control of the things we can.” (07:51-07:55) • “In times of uncertainty, the best thing we can do is stick to what we know.” (20:33-20:42) • “As leaders,not only do we control the narrative, but we have to be constant purveyors of hope.” (25:30-25:34) Links <a href="https://moretalent.com/success-experts/dr-bill-mitchell/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://moretalent.com/success-experts/dr-bill-mitchell/</a> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-bill-mitchell-8a7745143/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-bill-mitchell-8a7745143/</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

“I think CI needs to evolve faster than it is currently evolving.” says Rostyk Hursky, Director of Impact and Strategy at Saskatchewan Health Research Foundation (SHRF). In his years of experience, Rostyk has dedicated himself to providing more advanced strategic and foresight services to the organizations he serves. Rostyk finds pride in his work by pushing the boundaries of the traditional approach to CI in hopes of creating outcomes that benefit both stakeholders and consumers.  Competitive intelligence, or collaborative intelligence as Rostyk calls it, is constantly working to identify existing problems in order to create viable solutions that increase a company’s profits. According to Rostyk, if we take a humanistic approach to intelligence, we will see better results. He suggests the best way to achieve this is by collaborating with as many people as you can along the way. Understanding diverse perspectives will allow CI to be more effective in organizing and addressing the actual wants and needs of an audience on a vast scale. In an ideal world, representatives from across the board would play a role in CI. Join the Jo Bros on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Rostyk Hursky about his passion for catalyzing change in CI. Learn more about the role of CI in our daily lives, the importance of collaboration, and why Rostyk believes that intelligence is capable of creating a better future for generations to come!   Quotes • “I think CI needs to evolve faster than it is currently evolving.” (16:46-16:51) • “CI needs to be pushed beyond the boundaries and limitations. It needs to be cross-functional, cross-organizational and cross-sectoral.” (17:24-17:35) • “But to me, competitive intelligence, or as I call it collaborative intelligence, is really working towards not necessarily just making our organizations better and profitable, but making the world a better place for us, for our families, and for our children to grow up into.” (18:21-18:40) • “We're working together to maximize a future reality based on understanding the points of view of everyone who has a stake in this currently.” (24:25-24:34)   Links Connect with Rostyk Hursky: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rostyk-hursky-156266a/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/rostyk007?lang=en   https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

“I think CI needs to evolve faster than it is currently evolving.” says Rostyk Hursky, Director of Impact and Strategy at Saskatchewan Health Research Foundation (SHRF). In his years of experience, Rostyk has dedicated himself to providing more advanced strategic and foresight services to the organizations he serves. Rostyk finds pride in his work by pushing the boundaries of the traditional approach to CI in hopes of creating outcomes that benefit both stakeholders and consumers.  Competitive intelligence, or collaborative intelligence as Rostyk calls it, is constantly working to identify existing problems in order to create viable solutions that increase a company’s profits. According to Rostyk, if we take a humanistic approach to intelligence, we will see better results. He suggests the best way to achieve this is by collaborating with as many people as you can along the way. Understanding diverse perspectives will allow CI to be more effective in organizing and addressing the actual wants and needs of an audience on a vast scale. In an ideal world, representatives from across the board would play a role in CI. Join the Jo Bros on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Rostyk Hursky about his passion for catalyzing change in CI. Learn more about the role of CI in our daily lives, the importance of collaboration, and why Rostyk believes that intelligence is capable of creating a better future for generations to come! Quotes • “I think CI needs to evolve faster than it is currently evolving.” (16:46-16:51) • “CI needs to be pushed beyond the boundaries and limitations. It needs to be cross-functional, cross-organizational and cross-sectoral.” (17:24-17:35) • “But to me, competitive intelligence, or as I call it collaborative intelligence, is really working towards not necessarily just making our organizations better and profitable, but making the world a better place for us, for our families, and for our children to grow up into.” (18:21-18:40) • “We're working together to maximize a future reality based on understanding the points of view of everyone who has a stake in this currently.” (24:25-24:34) Links Connect with Rostyk Hursky: LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rostyk-hursky-156266a/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/rostyk-hursky-156266a/</a> Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/rostyk007?lang=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/rostyk007?lang=en</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

Rostyk Hursky

“After starting my new venture in the diamond business, I’m so glad that I had a foundation in CI,” says Joanna Park-Tonks, Founder of Chelsea Rocks. “I think business requires knowing the right questions to ask and knowing where to look for the answers.” While Joanna began her career as a Competitive Intelligence Analyst, she is now pursuing new business opportunities with her company Chelsea Rocks. Offering lab-grown diamonds, Joanna’s retail business provides beauty and sustainability and aims to educate others in the diamond industry on this forward-thinking method.  Joanna tells us that her career in the CI world and her new entrepreneurial journey are united by her love of people. In her CI role, Joanna enjoyed acting as an investigative journalist, gleaning information by listening to what others had to tell her and reading between the lines. Joanna’s mastery of German, French and Italian also gave her the unique opportunity to apply all three languages to her career in CI. Now, Joanna has discovered a new language in the jewelry she creates, which targets ethical and design-conscious luxury customers.  Tune into this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Joanna about her transition into the jewelry space. Learn more about the overlaps between Joanna’s CI and entrepreneurial roles, the applications of sustainability in the jewelry world, and how the language of jewelry continues to inspire Joanna each and every day.   Quotes • “And so, I've always sort of approached CI almost as an investigative journalist because I just find people endlessly fascinating: how they talk, what they tell you, what they don't tell you. And for me, it was just ferreting out that information, which was just endlessly fascinating.” (7:22-7:41) • “Jewelry is in itself, in my opinion, a language. If you look at ancient and tribal cultures, jewelry was used in all sorts of contexts, for barter, for religion, for symbolism, for ceremony.” (14:03-14:22) • “I think that diamonds, because of their visual appeal, will always be a symbol of celebration. And I think that the thing that has changed the worship in diamonds is that there's this whole shift around. If you look at what's happened with hybrid cars and vegan leather and even the milk industry, which is now 25% plant based, I think that there is this massive shift towards sustainability, and asking some quite tough, clear-eyed questions about what one is buying and the provenance of what one is buying.”(15:54-16:33) • “My approach to Chelsea Rocks...is that I'm actually working with highly talented gemologist Helen Dimmick from the UK who's got a national profile. Together, we really tried to create an education-led approach. So, in addition to the podcasts, we've also, got a lot of articles, you know, third-party verification certification.”(23:43-24:13) • “But that sort of empathy and that concern and that caring...that's the very essence of Chelsea rocks and how I wish to live my life and conduct my business.” (27:56-28:10)   Links Connect with Joanna Park-Tonks: • Website: www.chelsea-rocks.com • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannaparktonks/ • Twitter: @JoannaParkTonks   https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

“After starting my new venture in the diamond business, I’m so glad that I had a foundation in CI,” says Joanna Park-Tonks, Founder of Chelsea Rocks. “I think business requires knowing the right questions to ask and knowing where to look for the answers.” While Joanna began her career as a Competitive Intelligence Analyst, she is now pursuing new business opportunities with her company Chelsea Rocks. Offering lab-grown diamonds, Joanna’s retail business provides beauty and sustainability and aims to educate others in the diamond industry on this forward-thinking method.  Joanna tells us that her career in the CI world and her new entrepreneurial journey are united by her love of people. In her CI role, Joanna enjoyed acting as an investigative journalist, gleaning information by listening to what others had to tell her and reading between the lines. Joanna’s mastery of German, French and Italian also gave her the unique opportunity to apply all three languages to her career in CI. Now, Joanna has discovered a new language in the jewelry she creates, which targets ethical and design-conscious luxury customers.  Tune into this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Joanna about her transition into the jewelry space. Learn more about the overlaps between Joanna’s CI and entrepreneurial roles, the applications of sustainability in the jewelry world, and how the language of jewelry continues to inspire Joanna each and every day. Quotes • “And so, I've always sort of approached CI almost as an investigative journalist because I just find people endlessly fascinating: how they talk, what they tell you, what they don't tell you. And for me, it was just ferreting out that information, which was just endlessly fascinating.” (7:22-7:41) • “Jewelry is in itself, in my opinion, a language. If you look at ancient and tribal cultures, jewelry was used in all sorts of contexts, for barter, for religion, for symbolism, for ceremony.” (14:03-14:22) • “I think that diamonds, because of their visual appeal, will always be a symbol of celebration. And I think that the thing that has changed the worship in diamonds is that there's this whole shift around. If you look at what's happened with hybrid cars and vegan leather and even the milk industry, which is now 25% plant based, I think that there is this massive shift towards sustainability, and asking some quite tough, clear-eyed questions about what one is buying and the provenance of what one is buying.”(15:54-16:33) • “My approach to Chelsea Rocks...is that I'm actually working with highly talented gemologist Helen Dimmick from the UK who's got a national profile. Together, we really tried to create an education-led approach. So, in addition to the podcasts, we've also, got a lot of articles, you know, third-party verification certification.”(23:43-24:13) • “But that sort of empathy and that concern and that caring...that's the very essence of Chelsea rocks and how I wish to live my life and conduct my business.” (27:56-28:10) Links Connect with Joanna Park-Tonks: • Website: <a href="http://www.chelsea-rocks.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.chelsea-rocks.com</a> • LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannaparktonks/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannaparktonks/</a> • Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/JoannaParkTonks?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@JoannaParkTonks</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://hivecast.fm/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm</a>

Joanna Park-Tonks

Rob Verhelst

Rob Verhelst, aka Fireman Rob, was a two-sport collegiate athlete, playing both basketball and water polo. Post-graduation, he immediately joined his local fire department as a way to have a positive impact on his community. After just a year of service, Rob was sent to work search and recovery at Ground Zero only one day after the Twin Towers tragically fell. Nothing in his short 23 years of life could have prepared him for this moment, and it completely changed the trajectory of his life. While Rob has suffered many dark days, his service in NYC ultimately led him to discover meaning in his life.  Decades after 911, Rob now inspires people around the globe by speaking, delivering training, and competing in Ironman races while wearing 50 pounds of firefighter gear. He firmly believes that if you find your passion, you are more likely to take ownership of your actions, make more grounded decisions, and maintain resilience in the face of adversity.  As Rob has moved further along in his entrepreneurial journey, he has learned that his services aren’t right for everyone. He is not motivated by money and maintains a genuine reputation by only accepting clients that he believes he can successfully coach. Rob’s approach to purpose-driven success helps his clients discover uncomfortable and unrecognized limitations and effective strategies that can be used to build mental strength.  Join the Jo Bros on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog to hear how Fireman Rob found success in the fire. Learn how to take control of your fears by living an action-based lifestyle, so you can become an impactful leader that is driven by purpose and passion.     Quotes • “What you want to do with your life is leave a legacy. I always say it's not how successful you are, it's how much value you end in your life.” (07:03-07:11) • “And when I started speaking, it was very hard to tell my story because it's not crafting it, it's being vulnerable enough to tell people your mistakes, tell people that you are fallible, but at the same time the high points, you know, those are just gleaming moments in the whole thing.” (09:45-10:04) • “It's not what you get, it's what you do with what you get.” (13:34-13:39)  • “If you find your passion and purpose, you're more likely to take ownership of all your actions or inactions or words, which will correlate to actually making good decisions. And when you start to make good decisions, you have to have the emotional control to actually back up those decisions, and not steer yourself clear of that. Because when you have that emotional control, you can maintain that resilience, even in the challenges even in the darkness, even in the struggles to have faith in yourself over the fears that have driven you before. And inevitably, that correlates exactly to your mental strength that all of us are looking for.” (36:54-37:31)  • “Those trials and tribulations, the peaks, the valleys, the dark moments, the extremely dark moments, those are what create a person. That's what creates a human that's going to be somebody who can impact lives.” (40:46-42:00)    Links https://www.firemanrob.com/ https://twitter.com/TeamFiremanRob   https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by FIRESIDE Marketing

Rob Verhelst, aka Fireman Rob, was a two-sport collegiate athlete, playing both basketball and water polo. Post-graduation, he immediately joined his local fire department as a way to have a positive impact on his community. After just a year of service, Rob was sent to work search and recovery at Ground Zero only one day after the Twin Towers tragically fell. Nothing in his short 23 years of life could have prepared him for this moment, and it completely changed the trajectory of his life. While Rob has suffered many dark days, his service in NYC ultimately led him to discover meaning in his life.  Decades after 911, Rob now inspires people around the globe by speaking, delivering training, and competing in Ironman races while wearing 50 pounds of firefighter gear. He firmly believes that if you find your passion, you are more likely to take ownership of your actions, make more grounded decisions, and maintain resilience in the face of adversity.  As Rob has moved further along in his entrepreneurial journey, he has learned that his services aren’t right for everyone. He is not motivated by money and maintains a genuine reputation by only accepting clients that he believes he can successfully coach. Rob’s approach to purpose-driven success helps his clients discover uncomfortable and unrecognized limitations and effective strategies that can be used to build mental strength.  Join the Jo Bros on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog to hear how Fireman Rob found success in the fire. Learn how to take control of your fears by living an action-based lifestyle, so you can become an impactful leader that is driven by purpose and passion.   Quotes • “What you want to do with your life is leave a legacy. I always say it's not how successful you are, it's how much value you end in your life.” (07:03-07:11) • “And when I started speaking, it was very hard to tell my story because it's not crafting it, it's being vulnerable enough to tell people your mistakes, tell people that you are fallible, but at the same time the high points, you know, those are just gleaming moments in the whole thing.” (09:45-10:04) • “It's not what you get, it's what you do with what you get.” (13:34-13:39)  • “If you find your passion and purpose, you're more likely to take ownership of all your actions or inactions or words, which will correlate to actually making good decisions. And when you start to make good decisions, you have to have the emotional control to actually back up those decisions, and not steer yourself clear of that. Because when you have that emotional control, you can maintain that resilience, even in the challenges even in the darkness, even in the struggles to have faith in yourself over the fears that have driven you before. And inevitably, that correlates exactly to your mental strength that all of us are looking for.” (36:54-37:31)  • “Those trials and tribulations, the peaks, the valleys, the dark moments, the extremely dark moments, those are what create a person. That's what creates a human that's going to be somebody who can impact lives.” (40:46-42:00)  Links <a href="https://www.firemanrob.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.firemanrob.com/</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TeamFiremanRob" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/TeamFiremanRob</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://meetfireside.com/podcast-production/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by FIRESIDE Marketing</a>

Ellen Naylor

Ellen Naylor began her career in competitive intelligence in 1985 at Bell Atlantic, now known as Verizon. Originally working in sales, Ellen talked her way into a CI role, which she held for the next five years. Eventually, Ellen transitioned to a position with Northwest Airlines, where she quickly realized that she was unsatisfied, but couldn’t quite put a finger on why. It wasn't until Ellen took a trip back home to Japan that she finally understood her frustrations with corporate and went on to start her own business, Business Intelligence Source. More recently, Ellen also wrote a book titled Win/Loss Analysis: How to Capture and Keep the Business You Want. In Ellen’s opinion, not enough companies are incorporating Win/Loss Analysis into their business structure. Her book aims to prevent companies from focusing too much on their wins and instructs them on how best to learn from their losses. Ellen tells us that she never imagined that she would be a business owner or an author until she stepped back into a place that made her feel grounded. She suggests that anyone who is unhappy with their current situation take some time to intentionally reflect while doing something that brings them joy.  Join the Jo Bros on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Ellen Naylor about career transitions. Learn more about the effectiveness of the Win/Loss Analysis, the importance of feeling fulfilled in your current space and place, and how a three-week trip to Japan turned Ellen from a corporate employee into an entrepreneur.    Quotes • “So I wanted to go back to Japan where I grew up, and I hadn’t been there for 21 years...and while I was there, that was somewhat life changing because I had thought I would go back and get another corporate job. And I realized I just could not do that. It just wasn’t going to work, I was not the corporate type. I was done” (5:53-6:15)  • “Not enough companies are doing [Win/Loss Analysis]. They think they know why they're winning and losing deals, especially why they're winning them. It's a riot.” (14:40-14:48)  • “I like to have the person at the other end of the line or Zoom feel better by the end of our conversation than they did when we said hello, which is very simple. But it's pretty effective, actually, whether you're doing competitive research or having a conversation.” (25:22-25:38) • “I think the real thing that hit me was I was back to my youth, I was back to where I was grounded….And you know, when you're grounded, you can't fool yourself.” (47:08-47:28) • “So, I think I say for the listeners, you know, give yourself the time, the space, and the place...if you're very unhappy with where you are. And don't settle for being unhappy where you are.” (48:50-49:05)   Links https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellennaylorcolorado/ @EllenNaylor   https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by FIRESIDE Marketing

Ellen Naylor began her career in competitive intelligence in 1985 at Bell Atlantic, now known as Verizon. Originally working in sales, Ellen talked her way into a CI role, which she held for the next five years. Eventually, Ellen transitioned to a position with Northwest Airlines, where she quickly realized that she was unsatisfied, but couldn’t quite put a finger on why. It wasn't until Ellen took a trip back home to Japan that she finally understood her frustrations with corporate and went on to start her own business, Business Intelligence Source. More recently, Ellen also wrote a book titled Win/Loss Analysis: How to Capture and Keep the Business You Want. In Ellen’s opinion, not enough companies are incorporating Win/Loss Analysis into their business structure. Her book aims to prevent companies from focusing too much on their wins and instructs them on how best to learn from their losses. Ellen tells us that she never imagined that she would be a business owner or an author until she stepped back into a place that made her feel grounded. She suggests that anyone who is unhappy with their current situation take some time to intentionally reflect while doing something that brings them joy.  Join the Jo Bros on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Ellen Naylor about career transitions. Learn more about the effectiveness of the Win/Loss Analysis, the importance of feeling fulfilled in your current space and place, and how a three-week trip to Japan turned Ellen from a corporate employee into an entrepreneur.  Quotes • “So I wanted to go back to Japan where I grew up, and I hadn’t been there for 21 years...and while I was there, that was somewhat life changing because I had thought I would go back and get another corporate job. And I realized I just could not do that. It just wasn’t going to work, I was not the corporate type. I was done” (5:53-6:15)  • “Not enough companies are doing [Win/Loss Analysis]. They think they know why they're winning and losing deals, especially why they're winning them. It's a riot.” (14:40-14:48)  • “I like to have the person at the other end of the line or Zoom feel better by the end of our conversation than they did when we said hello, which is very simple. But it's pretty effective, actually, whether you're doing competitive research or having a conversation.” (25:22-25:38) • “I think the real thing that hit me was I was back to my youth, I was back to where I was grounded….And you know, when you're grounded, you can't fool yourself.” (47:08-47:28) • “So, I think I say for the listeners, you know, give yourself the time, the space, and the place...if you're very unhappy with where you are. And don't settle for being unhappy where you are.” (48:50-49:05) Links <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellennaylorcolorado/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellennaylorcolorado/</a> @EllenNaylor <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://meetfireside.com/podcast-production/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by FIRESIDE Marketing</a>

Cynthia Cheng

“In Intel, we really do need to challenge ourselves, challenge our assumptions, and challenge our worldviews and perspectives, so that we can achieve greater clarity,” says Cynthia Cheng Correia, Managing Director of Knowledge InForm and Founding President of the Council of Competitive Intelligence Fellows. This approach is particularly crucial after the tumultuous year we’ve had, which, according to Cynthia, has been a glaring reminder of the importance of foresight and Intel in our modern-day world.   As a long-time educator and leader in the competitive intelligence field, Cynthia has a deep understanding of the gaps that need to be filled in Intel. Cynthia has worked with her fair share of individuals with strong informational backgrounds, who have a tendency to favor acquisition and research over what happens afterwards. Cynthia notes that intelligence analysts need to move beyond a focus on research alone and instead cultivate an Intel mindset to ensure that they don’t become stuck in gathering mode. True CI competency requires the ability to generate intel, not just info.   Join the Jo Bros on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Cynthia about catalyzing innovation in the realm of CI. Learn about the power of the reference interview, the cross-fertilization of government and commercial intel, and the battle against attentional and expectation biases in the Intel field. You’ll even learn how Host Derek Johnson exposed Cynthia’s secret musical career at the 2019 SLA Annual Conference! Tune in to learn more.   Quotes “In Intel, we really do need to challenge ourselves, challenge our assumptions, challenge our worldviews and perspectives, so that we can really achieve greater clarity.” (03:55-04:04) “[As we bring people through the SLA certification program, we focus on] trying to minimize those biases and cultivate that intelligence mindset and helping them see the practice more holistically, so that we can overcome that tendency to just want to focus on research.” (18:24-18:36) “If we’re not challenging our own lines of thinking, we’re susceptible to missing a lot of what is important. I think it’s important that we try to be as evidence-based as possible in how we find solutions.” (37:35-37:50) “I think that one of the things that Intel pros are excellent at is the idea that we can take a broader view. We're trained in trying to understand the broader perspective, so that we can take a longer view of problems and issues.” (39:17- 39:34)  “Everything about 2020 teaches us the importance of Intel and foresight.” (41:05-41:10) “When we’re working at the entity level...we also really need to look at this and understand: how am I being driven by my personal interests or managerial interests versus a broader interest in the organization or even organization at different periods in time as we look outward in different time horizons? So these are the types of things we have to challenge ourselves all the time. We’re in constant tension to our inherent biases and inherent wishes versus the reality that's out there. So, perspectives are important.” (47:38-48:19)    Links Twitter – @TheCIFellows  Twitter – @chengcorreia  http://www.knowledgeinform.com    https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by FIRESIDE Marketing

“In Intel, we really do need to challenge ourselves, challenge our assumptions, and challenge our worldviews and perspectives, so that we can achieve greater clarity,” says Cynthia Cheng Correia, Managing Director of Knowledge InForm and Founding President of the Council of Competitive Intelligence Fellows. This approach is particularly crucial after the tumultuous year we’ve had, which, according to Cynthia, has been a glaring reminder of the importance of foresight and Intel in our modern-day world. As a long-time educator and leader in the competitive intelligence field, Cynthia has a deep understanding of the gaps that need to be filled in Intel. Cynthia has worked with her fair share of individuals with strong informational backgrounds, who have a tendency to favor acquisition and research over what happens afterwards. Cynthia notes that intelligence analysts need to move beyond a focus on research alone and instead cultivate an Intel mindset to ensure that they don’t become stuck in gathering mode. True CI competency requires the ability to generate intel, not just info. Join the Jo Bros on this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Cynthia about catalyzing innovation in the realm of CI. Learn about the power of the reference interview, the cross-fertilization of government and commercial intel, and the battle against attentional and expectation biases in the Intel field. You’ll even learn how Host Derek Johnson exposed Cynthia’s secret musical career at the 2019 SLA Annual Conference! Tune in to learn more. Quotes <ul><li>“In Intel, we really do need to challenge ourselves, challenge our assumptions, challenge our worldviews and perspectives, so that we can really achieve greater clarity.” (03:55-04:04)</li> <li>“[As we bring people through the SLA certification program, we focus on] trying to minimize those biases and cultivate that intelligence mindset and helping them see the practice more holistically, so that we can overcome that tendency to just want to focus on research.” (18:24-18:36)</li> <li>“If we’re not challenging our own lines of thinking, we’re susceptible to missing a lot of what is important. I think it’s important that we try to be as evidence-based as possible in how we find solutions.” (37:35-37:50)</li> <li>“I think that one of the things that Intel pros are excellent at is the idea that we can take a broader view. We're trained in trying to understand the broader perspective, so that we can take a longer view of problems and issues.” (39:17- 39:34) </li> <li>“Everything about 2020 teaches us the importance of Intel and foresight.” (41:05-41:10)</li> <li>“When we’re working at the entity level...we also really need to look at this and understand: how am I being driven by my personal interests or managerial interests versus a broader interest in the organization or even organization at different periods in time as we look outward in different time horizons? So these are the types of things we have to challenge ourselves all the time. We’re in constant tension to our inherent biases and inherent wishes versus the reality that's out there. So, perspectives are important.” (47:38-48:19)</li> </ul> Links Twitter – @TheCIFellows  Twitter – @chengcorreia  <a href="http://www.knowledgeinform.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.knowledgeinform.com</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://meetfireside.com/podcast-production/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by FIRESIDE Marketing</a>

Cynthia Cheng Correia

“Teachers default to practices that they experienced themselves as a student,” explains Heather Kenny, President of Unleashed Innovation, Inc. and Creator of Sounder &amp; Friends™. Educator turned entrepreneur, Heather has a deep understanding of the power of literacy to inform one’s life trajectory. Unfortunately, progress is quite slow in the educational world surrounding evidence-based practices; instead, new teachers tend to revert back to the strategies that they encountered as students, which are oftentimes out-of-date and not nearly as effective as newer models. Heather first began to develop her passion for literacy as a kindergarten teacher at an overcrowded elementary school. In this role, she quickly realized that the most important gift she could give her students was the gift of literacy. One of Heather’s coworkers at the time learned about the concept of phonemic awareness, which is the ability to hear and play with individual sounds (phonemes) in spoken words. Heather began brainstorming ways she could introduce a great focus on phonemic awareness into her classroom to lay the groundwork for her students’ future reading instruction. Fast forward to 2021, Heather has now created an engaging and entertaining way for kids to develop their phonemic awareness in the form of Sounder &amp; Friends™, an educational adventure show. Tune into this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Heather about literacy, phonemic awareness and her journey from educator to entrepreneur.   Quotes • “If children aren’t entertained, then they’re not going to want to watch it again. And if we don’t have their attention, then we can’t teach them anything.” (28:16-28:22) • “Ours is a highly literate society, and in order to have access and to be considered a full-fledged, contributing, respected member of that society, you have to be literate. Otherwise, there's this incredible sense of shame that you carry around with you. What learners tend to do is they tend to internalize it...and as a result, there's a sense of overwhelming shame… So, if you can imagine what that's like to go through your entire life, feeling this sense of shame, feeling like there's this terrible secret that you can't let anybody in on.” (34:22-35:23) • “If we can develop these skills, and we can make parents and teachers aware of how important it is that they develop proficiency early on, then children's brains will be primed for reading by the time they get to first grade, kindergarten even, when reading instruction really begins in earnest.” (40:27-40:43) • “Phonemic awareness is particularly relevant to children who are at risk for experiencing reading difficulties. And children in that adoptive category definitely fall into that category as at risk.” (46:25-46:39) • “If a child is floundering, we should be stepping in and giving them supports. If they're not able to do it on their own, that means they don't have the right support structure in place. So either the task is far too difficult or we're not providing the right kinds of supports.” (49:34-49:46)   Links: Connect with Unleashed Innovation: • Website: https://www.unleashed-innovation.com/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/unleashed-innovation/ • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/UnleashedInnovation/ • Twitter: https://twitter.com/unleashed_inno • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unleashed_innovation/   Connect with Sounder &amp; Friends™: • Store: https://store.sounderandfriends.com/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/70050966/admin/ • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SounderFriends/ • Twitter: https://twitter.com/friendssounder • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sounder_and_friends/ • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sounder_and_friends • Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEhiYc9ALWque3nVTQhvmHw   https://aurorawdc.com/  Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/  Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/   Podcast production and show notes provided by FIRESIDE Marketing

“Teachers default to practices that they experienced themselves as a student,” explains Heather Kenny, President of Unleashed Innovation, Inc. and Creator of Sounder &amp; Friends™. Educator turned entrepreneur, Heather has a deep understanding of the power of literacy to inform one’s life trajectory. Unfortunately, progress is quite slow in the educational world surrounding evidence-based practices; instead, new teachers tend to revert back to the strategies that they encountered as students, which are oftentimes out-of-date and not nearly as effective as newer models. Heather first began to develop her passion for literacy as a kindergarten teacher at an overcrowded elementary school. In this role, she quickly realized that the most important gift she could give her students was the gift of literacy. One of Heather’s coworkers at the time learned about the concept of phonemic awareness, which is the ability to hear and play with individual sounds (phonemes) in spoken words. Heather began brainstorming ways she could introduce a great focus on phonemic awareness into her classroom to lay the groundwork for her students’ future reading instruction. Fast forward to 2021, Heather has now created an engaging and entertaining way for kids to develop their phonemic awareness in the form of Sounder &amp; Friends™, an educational adventure show. Tune into this week’s episode of Running Into the Fog for a conversation with Heather about literacy, phonemic awareness and her journey from educator to entrepreneur. Quotes • “If children aren’t entertained, then they’re not going to want to watch it again. And if we don’t have their attention, then we can’t teach them anything.” (28:16-28:22) • “Ours is a highly literate society, and in order to have access and to be considered a full-fledged, contributing, respected member of that society, you have to be literate. Otherwise, there's this incredible sense of shame that you carry around with you. What learners tend to do is they tend to internalize it...and as a result, there's a sense of overwhelming shame… So, if you can imagine what that's like to go through your entire life, feeling this sense of shame, feeling like there's this terrible secret that you can't let anybody in on.” (34:22-35:23) • “If we can develop these skills, and we can make parents and teachers aware of how important it is that they develop proficiency early on, then children's brains will be primed for reading by the time they get to first grade, kindergarten even, when reading instruction really begins in earnest.” (40:27-40:43) • “Phonemic awareness is particularly relevant to children who are at risk for experiencing reading difficulties. And children in that adoptive category definitely fall into that category as at risk.” (46:25-46:39) • “If a child is floundering, we should be stepping in and giving them supports. If they're not able to do it on their own, that means they don't have the right support structure in place. So either the task is far too difficult or we're not providing the right kinds of supports.” (49:34-49:46) Links: Connect with Unleashed Innovation: • Website: <a href="https://www.unleashed-innovation.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.unleashed-innovation.com/</a> • LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/unleashed-innovation/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/unleashed-innovation/</a> • Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/UnleashedInnovation/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/UnleashedInnovation/</a> • Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/unleashed_inno" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/unleashed_inno</a> • Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/unleashed_innovation/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/unleashed_innovation/</a> Connect with Sounder &amp; Friends™: • Store: <a href="https://store.sounderandfriends.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://store.sounderandfriends.com/</a> • LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/70050966/admin/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/company/70050966/admin/</a> • Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/SounderFriends/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/SounderFriends/</a> • Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/friendssounder" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/friendssounder</a> • Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sounder_and_friends/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/sounder_and_friends/</a> • TikTok: <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@sounder_and_friends" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.tiktok.com/@sounder_and_friends</a> • Youtube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEhiYc9ALWque3nVTQhvmHw" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEhiYc9ALWque3nVTQhvmHw</a> <a href="https://aurorawdc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://aurorawdc.com/</a> Arik JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/arikjohnson/</a> Derek JohnsonLinkedIn – <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-johnson-cfa-190893/</a> <a href="https://meetfireside.com/podcast-production/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podcast production and show notes provided by FIRESIDE Marketing</a>

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