Silver On the Sage podcast’s largest group interview yet - thee original 1997 staff who wrote and performed Trail the Rock Opera at Cyphers Mine on this very day - August 9th - 26 years ago.  In addition, PJ Parmar joins the conversation - not only was he in the audience on the night of the original performance, but he also led the remake of Trail the rock opera in 2003.  In this interview we discuss the forbidden love affair between Johnny Tread and Molly McCloud and of course the origin of the impactful tune “I Don’t Mind.”  Episode Sponsor: Zia FlyNotable Mentions:Larry McLaughlinEvan McLaughlinTopher BuschJason GaskinJames BaknerBill SpiceDoug PalmerSupport the show

Silver On the Sage podcast’s largest group interview yet - thee original 1997 staff who wrote and performed Trail the Rock Opera at Cyphers Mine on this very day - August 9th - 26 years ago.  In addition, PJ Parmar joins the conversation - not only was he in the audience on the night of the original performance, but he also led the remake of Trail the rock opera in 2003.  In this interview we discuss the forbidden love affair between Johnny Tread and Molly McCloud and of course the origin of the impactful tune “I Don’t Mind.”  Episode Sponsor: <a href="https://www.ziafly.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Zia Fly</a>Notable Mentions: Larry McLaughlin Evan McLaughlin Topher Busch Jason Gaskin James Bakner Bill Spice Doug Palmer<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Trail the Rock Opera - Season 7 Kick Off

Kim Copeland

To wrap up Season 6, Jon and Kim Copeland share their stories and highlight the work they’re doing to maintain and encourage the Duty to God aspect of Scouting. Today, Jon and Kim are active participants in Philmont’s Chapel Refurbishment project, led by Chaplain Chip Turner and the Association of Baptists for Scouting. Philmont Experience Jon:1988 &amp; 90 - Trek participant1991 - Rayado Participant1992 - Ranger1993 - Ranger1994 - Logistics2015 &amp; 2019 - Trek advisor2021, 22, &amp; 23 - Association of Baptist Scouts: Chapel Refurbishment2014 - current: PSA Tech Committee, PSA Facebook page AdminPhilmont Experience Kim:1994 - PTC Assistant South Tent City Manager2002 - Ladies Autumn Adventure trekNotable Mentions:Doug FaschingDollie O'NeillSteve NelsonSteve and Doug Rayado RangersChip TurnerDale and Donna CopelandTom GiugniDoug FaschingSam and Allison DeFreesSupport the show

To wrap up Season 6, Jon and Kim Copeland share their stories and highlight the work they’re doing to maintain and encourage the Duty to God aspect of Scouting. Today, Jon and Kim are active participants in Philmont’s Chapel Refurbishment project, led by Chaplain Chip Turner and the <a href="https://baptistscouters.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Association of Baptists for Scouting</a>. Philmont Experience Jon: 1988 &amp; 90 - Trek participant 1991 - Rayado Participant 1992 - Ranger 1993 - Ranger 1994 - Logistics 2015 &amp; 2019 - Trek advisor 2021, 22, &amp; 23 - Association of Baptist Scouts: Chapel Refurbishment 2014 - current: PSA Tech Committee, PSA Facebook page Admin Philmont Experience Kim: 1994 - PTC Assistant South Tent City Manager 2002 - Ladies Autumn Adventure trek Notable Mentions: Doug Fasching Dollie O'Neill Steve Nelson Steve and Doug Rayado Rangers Chip Turner Dale and Donna Copeland Tom Giugni Doug Fasching Sam and Allison DeFrees<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Jon & Kim Copeland

Paul French

Today I bring you an interview with current Philmont staffer, Paul French.  We kick it off by chatting about Paul’s experiences as a participant on Rayado.  We go on to discuss Paul’s passion for Philmont’s interpretive backcountry program, and how it’s a gateway to spark curiosity and humanize history.  Paul also shares his thoughts on current restraints on seasonal staffing including compensation and accessibility. Philmont Experience:2014 - 12 day trek participant2015 - Rayado participant2017 - Activities Staff2018 - Ranger / TSI2019 - PC Metcalf Station 2021 - CD Pueblano2022 - CD Metcalf Station2022 Fall - Backcountry Warehouse Clerk / Winter - BCW Manager2023 - CD Baldy town Notable Mentions:Trevor LombardiTucker BakerAndrew HendrixEric WitheringtonMatt ShoemakerElliot HoinvilleJack SiebertCormac LosbrookJack HolesureDavid O'NeillArizona DuffSupport the show

Today I bring you an interview with current Philmont staffer, Paul French.  We kick it off by chatting about Paul’s experiences as a participant on Rayado.  We go on to discuss Paul’s passion for Philmont’s interpretive backcountry program, and how it’s a gateway to spark curiosity and humanize history.  Paul also shares his thoughts on current restraints on seasonal staffing including compensation and accessibility. Philmont Experience: 2014 - 12 day trek participant 2015 - Rayado participant 2017 - Activities Staff 2018 - Ranger / TSI 2019 - PC Metcalf Station 2021 - CD Pueblano 2022 - CD Metcalf Station 2022 Fall - Backcountry Warehouse Clerk / Winter - BCW Manager 2023 - CD Baldy town Notable Mentions: Trevor Lombardi Tucker Baker Andrew Hendrix Eric Witherington Matt Shoemaker Elliot Hoinville Jack Siebert Cormac Losbrook Jack Holesure David O'Neill Arizona Duff<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

An informative and thoughtful interview with current Associate Director of Camping, Phillip Ferrier.   We discuss the dynamic aspects of Human Resources - from staff training and discipline to cultural diversity and inclusiveness.  We also consider the recruitment needs for future staff and participants.Notable Links:Sherry Hamilton, Cimarron High School art teacher, organizes international trips for the high school kids through a group she’s called the Cimarron World Travelers. Elevation Sound &amp; EventsBSA Experience:Camp Tapico (Michigan Crossroads Council) -  Summers of 2002-2007 &amp; 2010-2012: Counselor in Training, Aquatics staff, Handicraft Director, Head Commissioner, COPE &amp; Climbing Director, Program DirectorCamp Turrell (Northern New Jersey Council) – 2008 Summer: Pathfinder (First Year Camper) DirectorFlorida Sea Base - 2012 Spring; 2013 Spring, Summer &amp; Autumn, 2014 Spring, 2014-2015 winter: Coral Reef Mate, Sea Exploring Mate, Sailing CommissionerSummit Bechtel Reserve (Paul R. Christen High Adventure Base) - 2014 Summer &amp; Autumn: Climbing ManagerSummit Bechtel Reserve – February 2015 to May 2019: Director, James C. Justice National Scout CampPhilmont Scout Ranch – June 2019 to present: Associate Director of Camping – Base Camp Operations &amp; Seasonal PersonnelNotable Mentions:Nick HutchinsonShelley O'NeillSteve NelsonChris SawyerEric MartinezOwen McCullochJohn Van DreeseDavid O'NeilNate LayAustin St. GeorgeMonic TurneyJoey MartinezDerek ShineySlim Uribe-GoertzBryan HayckTom HellmingBettyJoHeatherKim TaylorCarrie HaristonBeth CaroleBen HermanStoshaBen HarperRob RidgewayDave KopsaIssacTroyRyan JacksonSherry HamiltonMatt HartMike BarettaSupport the show

An informative and thoughtful interview with current Associate Director of Camping, Phillip Ferrier.   We discuss the dynamic aspects of Human Resources - from staff training and discipline to cultural diversity and inclusiveness.  We also consider the recruitment needs for future staff and participants. Notable Links: Sherry Hamilton, Cimarron High School art teacher, organizes international trips for the high school kids through a group she’s called the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/382782616865281" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Cimarron World Travelers.</a> <a href="https://www.elevationsoundandevents.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Elevation Sound &amp; Events</a> BSA Experience:<ul><li>Camp Tapico (Michigan Crossroads Council) -  Summers of 2002-2007 &amp; 2010-2012: Counselor in Training, Aquatics staff, Handicraft Director, Head Commissioner, COPE &amp; Climbing Director, Program Director</li><li>Camp Turrell (Northern New Jersey Council) – 2008 Summer: Pathfinder (First Year Camper) Director</li><li>Florida Sea Base - 2012 Spring; 2013 Spring, Summer &amp; Autumn, 2014 Spring, 2014-2015 winter: Coral Reef Mate, Sea Exploring Mate, Sailing Commissioner</li><li>Summit Bechtel Reserve (Paul R. Christen High Adventure Base) - 2014 Summer &amp; Autumn: Climbing Manager</li><li>Summit Bechtel Reserve – February 2015 to May 2019: Director, James C. Justice National Scout Camp</li><li>Philmont Scout Ranch – June 2019 to present: Associate Director of Camping – Base Camp Operations &amp; Seasonal Personnel</li></ul>Notable Mentions: Nick Hutchinson Shelley O'Neill Steve Nelson Chris Sawyer Eric Martinez Owen McCulloch John Van Dreese David O'Neil Nate Lay Austin St. George Monic Turney Joey Martinez Derek Shiney Slim Uribe-Goertz Bryan Hayck Tom Hellming Betty Jo Heather Kim Taylor Carrie Hariston Beth Carole Ben Herman Stosha Ben Harper Rob Ridgeway Dave Kopsa Issac Troy Ryan Jackson Sherry Hamilton Matt Hart Mike Baretta<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Phillip Ferrier

Philmont staff trail hire, Cameron Loechl joins the show.  Cameron was hired off the trail in 2004 to be a cook at Beaubien. We have fun discussing that transition from participant to staff, and the immense amount of responsibility Philmont entrusts in its seasonal staff each summer.He shares stories of impromptu Tobasco Donkeys concerts at Cypher’s mine, Fourth of July mud wrestling, The 2006 Casa Fire that threatened Philmont property, and more.CureSearch Ultimate Hike - Support Barb Loechl Philmont Experience: 1999 - Trek participant2004 - Trek participant2004 - Beaubien cook, hired off the trail2005 - PC Sawmill2006 - Cabin RestorationNotable Mentions:Chris FordKim and Jenny FordEricLiz BleekerMario CambardellaRick Smith aka Dirty RickDirty Larry McLaughlinAndy GerhartIron John LoganSupport the show

Philmont staff trail hire, Cameron Loechl joins the show.  Cameron was hired off the trail in 2004 to be a cook at Beaubien. We have fun discussing that transition from participant to staff, and the immense amount of responsibility Philmont entrusts in its seasonal staff each summer. He shares stories of impromptu Tobasco Donkeys concerts at Cypher’s mine, Fourth of July mud wrestling, The 2006 Casa Fire that threatened Philmont property, and more. <a href="https://give.curesearch.org/fundraiser/4300456" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CureSearch Ultimate Hike - Support Barb Loechl </a> Philmont Experience: 1999 - Trek participant 2004 - Trek participant 2004 - Beaubien cook, hired off the trail 2005 - PC Sawmill 2006 - Cabin RestorationNotable Mentions: Chris Ford Kim and Jenny Ford Eric Liz Bleeker Mario Cambardella Rick Smith aka Dirty Rick Dirty Larry McLaughlin Andy Gerhart Iron John Logan<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Cameron Loechl

Chase Anderson

Today's episode features two seasonal staffers who are currently at the ranch for the 2023 summer season: Kiley Conner - Base Camp Manager and Chase Anderson - Chief Ranger.  They speak of their goals to impact lives in the same fashion that their own lives were changed for the better by the Philmont experience. Keith Walters 100th Maverick Rodeo posters and printsPhilmont Experience:Kiley Conner2016 - 12 day trek 2017 - Ranger / Fall Forestry Work Crew 2018 - Ranger / TSI2019 - Ranger Trainer / Autumn Guide 2020 - Service Academy Coordinator (RIP) / Autumn Guide 2021 - Autumn Cavalcade participant 2023 - Base Camp Manager Chase Anderson2009 - 12 day trek 2017 - Ranger / Autumn Guide / Winter Adventure Guide/Coordinator 2018 - Ranger Trainer/TSI and Autumn Guide 2019 - Ranger Trainer / Autumn Guide 2020 - Associate Chief Ranger (RIP) / Autumn Guide 2021 - Autumn Cavalcade participant 2023 - Chief Ranger Notable Mentions:Chris BurkBill ChrisEric MartinezTodd KrentzRuel HoltSarah RoytechKat RassussenCaitlin CormichaelCarson McCreaPhillip FerrierTim CollverSupport the show

Today's episode features two seasonal staffers who are currently at the ranch for the 2023 summer season: Kiley Conner - Base Camp Manager and Chase Anderson - Chief Ranger.  They speak of their goals to impact lives in the same fashion that their own lives were changed for the better by the Philmont experience. Keith Walters <a href="https://www.facebook.com/keith.walters.39" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">100th Maverick Rodeo posters and prints</a> Philmont Experience: Kiley Conner 2016 - 12 day trek 2017 - Ranger / Fall Forestry Work Crew 2018 - Ranger / TSI 2019 - Ranger Trainer / Autumn Guide 2020 - Service Academy Coordinator (RIP) / Autumn Guide 2021 - Autumn Cavalcade participant 2023 - Base Camp Manager Chase Anderson 2009 - 12 day trek 2017 - Ranger / Autumn Guide / Winter Adventure Guide/Coordinator 2018 - Ranger Trainer/TSI and Autumn Guide 2019 - Ranger Trainer / Autumn Guide 2020 - Associate Chief Ranger (RIP) / Autumn Guide 2021 - Autumn Cavalcade participant 2023 - Chief Ranger Notable Mentions: Chris Burk Bill Chris Eric Martinez Todd Krentz Ruel Holt Sarah Roytech Kat Rassussen Caitlin Cormichael Carson McCrea Phillip Ferrier Tim Collver<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Kiley Conner & Chase Anderson

Allison (Vinson) DeFrees joins the show to chat about our connection to Philmont via the concept of Sense of Place.   Philmont Experience:2006 - ROCS participant2007 - PC Dan Beard2008 - PC Rich Cabins2009 - CD Urracca2010 - Invasive Species Specialist, Autumn Guide2012 - Trek participant2013 - Logistics / Jamboree2018 - 2019 - Full time PSR resident Notable MentionsChris ReedRobert ReedAllison KingKari AndersonKelly TobinLaura Munch Mary StuverDave BatesMark AndersonJohn CelleyRanda CelleyMark BrysonBen SparksCliff EadeTim CollverTobasco DonkeysEllie Nickens TurnerIron John LoganRosendo GallegosSeth ManginiRod TaylorDave PlumbChris SawyerSam DeFreesJim and Marianne MacGilivrayDave KopsaPete BergoneJoe DuffieldMolly HaristonJason MazSupport the show

Allison (Vinson) DeFrees joins the show to chat about our connection to Philmont via the concept of Sense of Place.    Philmont Experience: 2006 - ROCS participant 2007 - PC Dan Beard 2008 - PC Rich Cabins 2009 - CD Urracca 2010 - Invasive Species Specialist, Autumn Guide 2012 - Trek participant 2013 - Logistics / Jamboree 2018 - 2019 - Full time PSR resident Notable Mentions Chris Reed Robert Reed Allison King Kari Anderson Kelly Tobin Laura Munch  Mary Stuver Dave Bates Mark Anderson John Celley Randa Celley Mark Bryson Ben Sparks Cliff Eade Tim Collver Tobasco Donkeys Ellie Nickens Turner Iron John Logan Rosendo Gallegos Seth Mangini Rod Taylor Dave Plumb Chris Sawyer Sam DeFrees Jim and Marianne MacGilivray Dave Kopsa Pete Bergone Joe Duffield Molly Hariston Jason Maz<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Allison DeFrees

Louise (Lopez) Mesaric was born in Santa Fe in 1941 and grew up in Cimarron, NM.  In this episode she shares fond memories of living at Philmont with her late husband, Larry Mesaric who worked full-time for the ranch as a horseman and cattle foreman from the early 1960s to early 1970s.  Notable Mentions:Leo MartinezAunt RosieRudolph SchwartzMcDaniels RanchBoss SanchezBengie VargasMike VargasLarry MesaricCharlie and EstherJohn and MargaretteJohn MaynerRichard MungerLaura MesaricTracy MesaricMr. JunkerMr. DavisFelipePappy SchallGretchen SammisGene PompiGrandpa ChaseHenry LambertDavid AdereEddie, Arabella, Gloria SanchezGrace and BudVera GourleyJames SitzbergerLarry DavisSupport the show

Louise (Lopez) Mesaric was born in Santa Fe in 1941 and grew up in Cimarron, NM.  In this episode she shares fond memories of living at Philmont with her late husband, <a href="https://lietz-frazefuneralhome.com/tribute/details/3230/Lawrence-Mesaric/obituary.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Larry Mesaric</a> who worked full-time for the ranch as a horseman and cattle foreman from the early 1960s to early 1970s.  Notable Mentions: Leo Martinez Aunt Rosie Rudolph Schwartz McDaniels Ranch Boss Sanchez Bengie Vargas Mike Vargas Larry Mesaric Charlie and Esther John and Margarette John Mayner Richard Munger Laura Mesaric Tracy Mesaric Mr. Junker Mr. Davis Felipe Pappy Schall Gretchen Sammis Gene Pompi Grandpa Chase Henry Lambert David Adere Eddie, Arabella, Gloria Sanchez Grace and Bud Vera Gourley James Sitzberger Larry Davis<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Louise Mesaric

Rod Taylor

Rod Taylor, Eagle Scout and Texas native, worked full-time as a Philmont cowboy and Cattle Foreman for 34 years. Before that he trekked twice as a participant and worked seasonally for 5 summers.  Today he enjoys retirement and resides in Cimarron, NM.2023 Philmont Wrangler Reunion website Closing song by Jessica Seifert, Slim Uribe-Goertz, and Rod Taylor.Philmont Experience:1972 - Participant1973 - Participant 1974 - PC French Henry 1975 - PC Beaubien 1976  - Wrangler Beaubien1977 - Horseman Beaubien 1978 - Cavalcade Horseman 1983-2017 - Full-time Cowboy Notable Mentions:Patti TaylorSteve LewisCarol MunchBoss SanchezBob KnoxBob RickleffsDoug JohnsonBen SloanChope PhillipsBen VargasJane MunchChuck EnloePep and Donna ArchuletaHank WiesscampMollie GruverMargie MartinezJoanne &amp; Wiggs MartinezRy TaylorMason TaylorWill TaylorJesse MartinezGene SchenellChris HoganBrian ThompsonJohnny NelsonDoug JohnsonJeremiah JohnsonSupport the show

Rod Taylor, Eagle Scout and Texas native, worked full-time as a Philmont cowboy and Cattle Foreman for 34 years. Before that he trekked twice as a participant and worked seasonally for 5 summers.  Today he enjoys retirement and resides in Cimarron, NM. <a href="https://sites.google.com/view/wranglersreunion/home?authuser=0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">2023 Philmont Wrangler Reunion website </a> Closing song by Jessica Seifert, Slim Uribe-Goertz, and Rod Taylor. Philmont Experience: 1972 - Participant 1973 - Participant 1974 - PC French Henry 1975 - PC Beaubien 1976  - Wrangler Beaubien 1977 - Horseman Beaubien 1978 - Cavalcade Horseman 1983-2017 - Full-time Cowboy Notable Mentions: Patti Taylor Steve Lewis Carol Munch Boss Sanchez Bob Knox Bob Rickleffs Doug Johnson Ben Sloan Chope Phillips Ben Vargas Jane Munch Chuck Enloe Pep and Donna Archuleta Hank Wiesscamp Mollie Gruver Margie Martinez Joanne &amp; Wiggs Martinez Ry Taylor Mason Taylor Will Taylor Jesse Martinez Gene Schenell Chris Hogan Brian Thompson Johnny Nelson Doug Johnson Jeremiah Johnson<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Christine (Salisbury) Sammons joins the show to discuss her nine summers working in the Ranger department, three of which she served as Philmont’s Chief Ranger.  Show notes link: 2023 Wrangler Reunion Philmont Experience:2004 - Trek participant2005 &amp; 06 - Ranger2007 &amp; 08 - Ranger Trainer2009 &amp;10 - Associate Chief Ranger2009 - Fall autumn guide2010 - Fall autumn coordinator2011 - 2013 - Chief Ranger2014 - Outfitting Services ManagerNotable MentionsMark AndersonChris SawyerKirstin AndersonJada Day Eric MartinezJenna AndersonSupport the show

Christine (Salisbury) Sammons joins the show to discuss her nine summers working in the Ranger department, three of which she served as Philmont’s Chief Ranger.  Show notes link: <a href="https://sites.google.com/view/wranglersreunion/home?authuser=0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">2023 Wrangler Reunion </a> Philmont Experience: 2004 - Trek participant 2005 &amp; 06 - Ranger 2007 &amp; 08 - Ranger Trainer 2009 &amp;10 - Associate Chief Ranger 2009 - Fall autumn guide 2010 - Fall autumn coordinator 2011 - 2013 - Chief Ranger 2014 - Outfitting Services Manager Notable Mentions Mark Anderson Chris Sawyer Kirstin Anderson Jada Day  Eric Martinez Jenna Anderson <a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Christine Sammons

Join us as we share, celebrate, and preserve the stories of those impacted by their time on staff at Philmont Scout Ranch!

Today Jason Maz joins the show.  We discuss everything from neurodivergence, native bee populations, and canoe portaging at Wilson Mesa to the challenges of the Rayado Trek Coordinator role and the operational processes that take place during a Philmont Search and Rescue.  Jason lives in the mountains of Vermont and works as a contracted ecologist, University educator, and economic pollination researcher.  "Why We Run," featuring Bernd HeinrichWATERMAN FUND ESSAY WINNER: Splitting Clouds at the Edge of the World: How Had I Never Noticed It Before? by Jason MazurowskiPhilmont Experience:2011 - Ranger2012 - Ranger trainer2013 - Rayado trek coordinator 2014 - Assistant Chief Ranger (ACR)2015 - ACRSecond seasons:Autumn 2013 - MaintenanceWinter 2013/14 - Winter adventure guideAutumn 2014 - Autumn adventure guideWinter 2014/15 - Winter adventure coordinatorNotable Mentions:Collin BowserJason ContinoAndy TaylorEric MartinezBernd HeinrichMark AndersonSupport the show

Today Jason Maz joins the show.  We discuss everything from neurodivergence, native bee populations, and canoe portaging at Wilson Mesa to the challenges of the Rayado Trek Coordinator role and the operational processes that take place during a Philmont Search and Rescue.  Jason lives in the mountains of Vermont and works as a contracted ecologist, University educator, and economic pollination researcher.  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2e4nFm-Ffk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">"Why We Run,"</a> featuring Bernd Heinrich WATERMAN FUND ESSAY WINNER: <a href="https://digitalcommons.dartmouth.edu/appalachia/vol73/iss1/12/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Splitting Clouds at the Edge of the World: How Had I Never Noticed It Before?</a> by Jason Mazurowski Philmont Experience: 2011 - Ranger 2012 - Ranger trainer 2013 - Rayado trek coordinator 2014 - Assistant Chief Ranger (ACR) 2015 - ACR Second seasons: Autumn 2013 - Maintenance Winter 2013/14 - Winter adventure guide Autumn 2014 - Autumn adventure guide Winter 2014/15 - Winter adventure coordinator Notable Mentions: Collin Bowser Jason Contino Andy Taylor Eric Martinez Bernd Heinrich Mark Anderson<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Jason Maz

As a city kid, Jack was initially apprehensive about trekking at Philmont and taking on true High Adventure. But in 2017, as an 18 year old on trek, they had the time of their life. Jack was deeply inspired by the music and the people, and simply could not believe a place like Philmont existed.Today’s episode closes with Train song by the Metcalf 2022 staff, from their album titled “Sally No. 1 Pride and Glory.”Photo credit: Marielle ScottPhilmont Experience:2017 - Regular Trek Participant2018 - TSI Crew/PC Beaubien2020 - PC Pueblano (Covid, never was)2021 - PC PueblanoFall 2021 - Forestry Crew (Injured, never was)2022 - PC Metcalf Station2023 - CD UrracaNotable Mentions:Ford LeeErin DuffyMary LabenKevin DowlingAnnie AndersonBonnie MillerPaul FrenchElliot HoinbellDavid O’NeillGeorge BirchSteve NelsonGarret WitheringtonSupport the show

As a city kid, Jack was initially apprehensive about trekking at Philmont and taking on true High Adventure. But in 2017, as an 18 year old on trek, they had the time of their life. Jack was deeply inspired by the music and the people, and simply could not believe a place like Philmont existed. Today’s episode closes with Train song by the Metcalf 2022 staff, from their album titled <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/0eYetGZGklTe7l4neQB11D" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">“Sally No. 1 Pride and Glory.”</a> Photo credit: Marielle Scott Philmont Experience: 2017 - Regular Trek Participant 2018 - TSI Crew/PC Beaubien 2020 - PC Pueblano (Covid, never was) 2021 - PC Pueblano Fall 2021 - Forestry Crew (Injured, never was) 2022 - PC Metcalf Station 2023 - CD Urraca Notable Mentions: Ford Lee Erin Duffy Mary Laben Kevin Dowling Annie Anderson Bonnie Miller Paul French Elliot Hoinbell David O’Neill George Birch Steve Nelson Garret Witherington<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Jack Siebert

Zak shares his love for Zastrow and contends that the role of Camp Director is the best job on the ranch.  And that Philmont is the perfect environment for growing young adults - where problem solving and self-sufficiency is demanded of you. YouTube link to The Agitators - backcountry musical from Crater Lake 2011Note: The drawing of Zak climbing a tree and pulling lightning from the sky -The drawing was done by Brandon Thomas, who worked at Philmont in 2011.Closing song: "All Men are my Brothers." Sung by Zak and Karl Sparks.Philmont Experience:2003 - Regular trek2006 - Regular trek2007 - PC Zastrow2008 - PC Pueblano2009 - PC Black Mountain2010 - PC Pueblano2011 - CD Crater Lake2014 - PSA Staff Trek2019 - PSA Staff Trek2021 - PSA Staff Trek Notable Mentions:Tim CollverSarah Dunn-RankinSupport the show

Zak shares his love for Zastrow and contends that the role of Camp Director is the best job on the ranch.  And that Philmont is the perfect environment for growing young adults - where problem solving and self-sufficiency is demanded of you. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7aUzZ57xkE&amp;t=2403s" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">YouTube link to The Agitators - backcountry musical from Crater Lake 2011</a>Note: The drawing of Zak climbing a tree and pulling lightning from the sky - The drawing was done by Brandon Thomas, who worked at Philmont in 2011. Closing song: "All Men are my Brothers." Sung by Zak and Karl Sparks. Philmont Experience: 2003 - Regular trek 2006 - Regular trek 2007 - PC Zastrow 2008 - PC Pueblano 2009 - PC Black Mountain 2010 - PC Pueblano 2011 - CD Crater Lake 2014 - PSA Staff Trek 2019 - PSA Staff Trek 2021 - PSA Staff Trek Notable Mentions: Tim Collver Sarah Dunn-Rankin<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Zak Butler

Seth discusses the Bonito Creek restoration project.  As the project lead and doctoral candidate, he explains the valley morphology of bonito creek and the timing and impacts of arroyo erosion in a wet meadow system. Check out the official Philmont Wrangler Reunion website - where you can browse auction items, share photos, consider sponsorship contributions, and RSVP.  All Philmont staff are welcome to attend and participate. Philmont Experience1998 - Trek Participant2000 - Trek Advisor2004 - PC Black Mountain2005 - PC Miranda2006 - CD Black Mountain, 15 Zulu fall maintenance2007 - Work Crew Foreman, 15 Zulu fall maintenance2008 - ADC Conservationists, Fall Conservation2009 - PTC Winter Maintenance, ADC Ists, Fall Cons2010 - ADC Ists, Fall Cons2011 - Invasive Species2012 - Field Manager 2019 - Conservation researcher2020 - Conservation researcher2021 - Stream Restoration Coordinator2022 - Stream Restoration CoordinatorNotable Mentions:Steve WurtzelJosh - CD Black 02Bucko CowdenDaniel Herrel "Beav"Cory PetersonSeth SchwartzArkansasLee LeatherwoodMichel SerioJohn CelleyRick SmithJim KutzJohn VandreeseJackie ClarkMartin GibsonJustin HuffumMatt WagnerAllison Vinson DefreesStephen SenterMichael MalchovitchJosh CookKatie CuryCasey MeyersMike SudmeierMark AndersonKarri AndersonRod TaylorSupport the show

Seth discusses the Bonito Creek restoration project.  As the project lead and <a href="https://www.montana.edu/earthsciences/graduate-program/students/mangini.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">doctoral candidate</a>, he explains the valley morphology of bonito creek and the timing and impacts of arroyo erosion in a wet meadow system. Check out the official <a href="https://sites.google.com/view/wranglersreunion/home?pli=1&amp;fbclid=IwAR2dXLj0imP7rYZNeojXgdu9rVNxsx_GJS883SJRhgCygrW6KY9XyxO87tU" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Philmont Wrangler Reunion</a> website - where you can browse auction items, share photos, consider sponsorship contributions, and RSVP.  All Philmont staff are welcome to attend and participate. Philmont Experience 1998 - Trek Participant 2000 - Trek Advisor 2004 - PC Black Mountain 2005 - PC Miranda 2006 - CD Black Mountain, 15 Zulu fall maintenance 2007 - Work Crew Foreman, 15 Zulu fall maintenance 2008 - ADC Conservationists, Fall Conservation 2009 - PTC Winter Maintenance, ADC Ists, Fall Cons 2010 - ADC Ists, Fall Cons 2011 - Invasive Species 2012 - Field Manager 2019 - Conservation researcher 2020 - Conservation researcher 2021 - Stream Restoration Coordinator 2022 - Stream Restoration Coordinator Notable Mentions: Steve Wurtzel Josh - CD Black 02 Bucko Cowden Daniel Herrel "Beav" Cory Peterson Seth Schwartz Arkansas Lee Leatherwood Michel Serio John Celley Rick Smith Jim Kutz John Vandreese Jackie Clark Martin Gibson Justin Huffum Matt Wagner Allison Vinson Defrees Stephen Senter Michael Malchovitch Josh Cook Katie Cury Casey Meyers Mike Sudmeier Mark Anderson Karri Anderson Rod Taylor<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Seth Mangini - Stream Restoration

Diana was among the first female seasonal staffers to work at Philmont in 1970’s.  She returned as the first ever female Protestant Chaplain in 2022.  For Diana and many of us, God lives in the Sangre De Cristo Mountains. And going high into those mountains equates to total wellness of body, spirit, and mind. Philmont Experience:1973 - CHQ Public Relations Administrative Assistant (first female summer staff at CHQ)1974 - PTC Assistant Muchacha Director1975 - PTC Muchacha Director1990 - CHQ Dining Hall Manager2022, 2023 - Protestant Chaplain (first woman Protestant Chaplain)Notable Mentions:Steve LoomisPhil LoomisJoe DavisBetsy and John RoofKathy LeachNancy WellsCarol MunchHannah WilsonSteve NelsonRoger HoytSupport the show

Diana was among the first female seasonal staffers to work at Philmont in 1970’s.  She returned as the first ever female Protestant Chaplain in 2022.  For Diana and many of us, God lives in the Sangre De Cristo Mountains. And going high into those mountains equates to total wellness of body, spirit, and mind.  Philmont Experience: 1973 - CHQ Public Relations Administrative Assistant (first female summer staff at CHQ) 1974 - PTC Assistant Muchacha Director 1975 - PTC Muchacha Director 1990 - CHQ Dining Hall Manager 2022, 2023 - Protestant Chaplain (first woman Protestant Chaplain) Notable Mentions: Steve Loomis Phil Loomis Joe Davis Betsy and John Roof Kathy Leach Nancy Wells Carol Munch Hannah Wilson Steve Nelson Roger Hoyt<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Diana Loomis

To fall in love at Philmont is a unique journey of it's own.  To celebrate Valentine's Day - husband and wife, Lee and Carly Scarbrough join the show to share their Philmont love story. Check out Carly's Website here: www.cjcasper.comPhilmont Experience:LeeCOPE 2014PTC Fall 2014PC Rich Cabins 2015PTC Fall 2015ACD Beaubien 2017PTC Fall Coordinator 2017CarlyPC Ring Place 2012PC Ponil 2013PC French 2014 (late arrival)PC Cito 2015ACD Ponil 2016Autumn Adventure 2016CD Clarks Fork 2017Notable Mentions:Jesse McCallonChris WattersStephen AlexanderWally WolaninKyle SawyerSam &amp; Whitney AndersonAmy BraganiniPete BergoneNate LayCarter SmithGrant ReigelmanSupport the show

To fall in love at Philmont is a unique journey of it's own.  To celebrate Valentine's Day - husband and wife, Lee and Carly Scarbrough join the show to share their Philmont love story. Check out Carly's Website here: <a href="https://www.cjcasper.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.cjcasper.com</a> Philmont Experience: Lee COPE 2014 PTC Fall 2014 PC Rich Cabins 2015 PTC Fall 2015 ACD Beaubien 2017 PTC Fall Coordinator 2017 Carly PC Ring Place 2012 PC Ponil 2013 PC French 2014 (late arrival) PC Cito 2015 ACD Ponil 2016 Autumn Adventure 2016 CD Clarks Fork 2017 Notable Mentions: Jesse McCallon Chris Watters Stephen Alexander Wally Wolanin Kyle Sawyer Sam &amp; Whitney Anderson Amy Braganini Pete Bergone Nate Lay Carter Smith Grant Reigelman<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Carly & Lee Scarbrough

Toph White shares some historical love for The Double H - a satellite BSA High Adventure Base that ran from 2004 - 2009 in Southwestern, NM.   At the Double H there were no designated trails, a staff of 60, and just one backcountry camp - the experiences were similar to Philmont, yet more austere and uniquely challenging.  In part two of this episode, Toph praises the licensed Philmont Infirmary for its capabilities of care and highly qualified staff, in partnership with the University of Kansas Medical Center.  Today he is the Assistant Patrol Director for the Canyons Village, Park City Ski Patrol.  Philmont Experience:1996 - Participant1998 - 18 year old Advisor2000 - Activities Staff2001 - Ranger2002 - Mountain Trek Ranger2004 - Phil-Break Participant2004 - Double H Senior Guide2005 - Double H CD Martin Camp2006-2009 - Double H Program Director 2010-2016 - Infirmary Assistant Chief of Medical Support Notable Mentions:Andy SchmidtBrian McCormickMark AndersonNate LayChris SawyerKeith GallowayJohn CelleyRyan KingDave KopsaKevin StickelmanSteve ParksChristin PickerilloEric JimlinkGavin FaulknerColfax GazetteRoger SmithSupport the show

Toph White shares some historical love for The Double H - a satellite BSA High Adventure Base that ran from 2004 - 2009 in Southwestern, NM.   At the Double H there were no designated trails, a staff of 60, and just one backcountry camp - the experiences were similar to Philmont, yet more austere and uniquely challenging.  In part two of this episode, Toph praises the licensed Philmont Infirmary for its capabilities of care and highly qualified staff, in partnership with the University of Kansas Medical Center.  Today he is the Assistant Patrol Director for the Canyons Village, Park City Ski Patrol.  Philmont Experience: 1996 - Participant 1998 - 18 year old Advisor 2000 - Activities Staff 2001 - Ranger 2002 - Mountain Trek Ranger 2004 - Phil-Break Participant 2004 - Double H Senior Guide 2005 - Double H CD Martin Camp 2006-2009 - Double H Program Director 2010-2016 - Infirmary Assistant Chief of Medical Support Notable Mentions: Andy Schmidt Brian McCormick Mark Anderson Nate Lay Chris Sawyer Keith Galloway John Celley Ryan King Dave Kopsa Kevin Stickelman Steve Parks Christin Pickerillo Eric Jimlink Gavin Faulkner Colfax Gazette Roger Smith<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Toph White - Double H

Ben Edmonds

Today Ben Edmonds joins the show to discuss his staff experiences in the Philmont Maintenance and Conservation departments, as well as his career today as a Marine stewardship and monitoring specialist at The Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary - including work with Mission: Iconic Reefs, large area image acquisition, and more.Philmont Experience:2005 &amp; 2008 - Trek participant2009 - Basecamp maintenance 2010 - Work Crew Papa2013 - Work Crew Romeo2014 - Work Crew Sierra Forman 2015 - Sea Base  Notable MentionsWayne BakerJuanRickOld man JimSteve GabrielMatt Serio "Jersey"Alice PauldingDawn SallyKim AmesGiland "Gil" DeesZach HarrisShannon EdwardsMike JackSeth EldridgeJohn CelleyRobert FudgeSupport the show

Today Ben Edmonds joins the show to discuss his staff experiences in the Philmont Maintenance and Conservation departments, as well as his career today as a Marine stewardship and monitoring specialist at The <a href="https://floridakeys.noaa.gov/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary</a> - including work with <a href="https://marinesanctuary.org/mission-iconic-reefs/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Mission: Iconic Reefs</a>, large area image acquisition, and more. Philmont Experience: 2005 &amp; 2008 - Trek participant 2009 - Basecamp maintenance 2010 - Work Crew Papa 2013 - Work Crew Romeo 2014 - Work Crew Sierra Forman 2015 - Sea Base  Notable Mentions Wayne Baker Juan Rick Old man Jim Steve Gabriel Matt Serio "Jersey" Alice Paulding Dawn Sally Kim Ames Giland "Gil" Dees Zach Harris Shannon Edwards Mike Jack Seth Eldridge John Celley Robert Fudge<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Tim Borden

Welcome to a special celebration episode to commemorate two years of Silver On the Sage Podcast - and onto year three!  A big thank you to everyone who interviews, listens, and supports the show. If you're a weekly or monthly listener, consider donating to the show!  Ways to Donate:*Become a monthly contributor: Patreon*One time donation: Venmo @Caitlin-Lowe-87714 or Podfan*Donate and enjoy: Silver On the Sage podcast Coffee Mug! *Donate and admire: Original podcast logo block print *Donate and listen: The Calico Stray album All donations go towards keeping Silver On the Sage Podcast alive - so the impact and oral history of our time at Philmont can be shared and preserved.   Today, Tim Borden and Evan Coombs join the show from Portland, Oregon, where they've met up to participate in an old-time gathering and reminisce about Philmont. In this three part episode, we kick it off with Philmont anecdotes, then focus on the boy's experience through hiking the Appalachian Trail, and wrap it up with an insightful discussion about old time music.  All roads lead to Philmont. Philmont ExperienceEvan Coombs2002 - PTC participant2005 - Trek participant2009 - PC Ponil 2010 - PC Crater Lake 2011 - PC Clear Creek 2012 - PC Pueblano / Fall CHQ Maintenance Tim Borden2009 &amp; 2010 - Ranger 2011 - PC Pueblano / Autumn guide 2012 - CD Pueblano / Fall CHQ Maintenance Notable Mentions:Mark EmdeTim CollverDavid BurchfieldPeter WeberMichael Henneberry Brenden and Lela BestBlake JonesJohn LauberTristan WagnerTobasco Donkey'sJimmy LoweSteve NelsonTim CollverChris SawyerBen HoffmanEllyn WashburneJessica Seifert "Red"Austin St. GeorgeChris TrepkyMark LockridgeTravis PayneTravis ScherschelFlume Canyon BoysJosh StanardArt WoodardMary Jo StandardBlayne WoodsIron John Logan Brendon BestSupport the show

Welcome to a special celebration episode to commemorate two years of Silver On the Sage Podcast - and onto year three!  A big thank you to everyone who interviews, listens, and supports the show. If you're a weekly or monthly listener, consider donating to the show! Ways to Donate: *Become a monthly contributor: <a href="http://patreon.com/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Patreon</a> *One time donation: Venmo @Caitlin-Lowe-87714 or <a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Podfan</a> *Donate and enjoy: Silver On the Sage podcast <a href="https://silveronthesagepod.wixsite.com/philmont/online-store/Podcast-Coffee-Mug-p437503340" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Coffee Mug</a>! *Donate and admire: Original <a href="https://silveronthesagepod.wixsite.com/philmont/online-store/Podcast-Logo-Original-Block-Print-p438088638" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">podcast logo</a> block print *Donate and listen: <a href="https://thecalicostray.bandcamp.com/album/no-time-for-caution" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Calico Stray album</a> All donations go towards keeping Silver On the Sage Podcast alive - so the impact and oral history of our time at Philmont can be shared and preserved.    Today, Tim Borden and Evan Coombs join the show from Portland, Oregon, where they've met up to participate in an old-time gathering and reminisce about Philmont. In this three part episode, we kick it off with Philmont anecdotes, then focus on the boy's experience through hiking the Appalachian Trail, and wrap it up with an insightful discussion about old time music.  All roads lead to Philmont.  Philmont Experience Evan Coombs 2002 - PTC participant 2005 - Trek participant 2009 - PC Ponil 2010 - PC Crater Lake 2011 - PC Clear Creek 2012 - PC Pueblano / Fall CHQ Maintenance Tim Borden 2009 &amp; 2010 - Ranger 2011 - PC Pueblano / Autumn guide 2012 - CD Pueblano / Fall CHQ Maintenance Notable Mentions: Mark Emde Tim Collver David Burchfield Peter Weber Michael Henneberry  Brenden and Lela Best Blake Jones John Lauber Tristan Wagner Tobasco Donkey's Jimmy Lowe Steve Nelson Tim Collver Chris Sawyer Ben Hoffman Ellyn Washburne Jessica Seifert "Red" Austin St. George Chris Trepky Mark Lockridge Travis Payne Travis Scherschel Flume Canyon Boys Josh Stanard Art Woodard Mary Jo Standard Blayne Woods Iron John Logan  Brendon Best<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Tim Borden & Evan Coombs - Two Years of Podcasting!

Today, dedicated, life-long cowboy Chuck Enloe joins the show. Chuck has been working at Philmont seasonally and full-time for a combined total of 40 years.  He’s also worked at prominent Northern New Mexico ranches including the Moore Ranch and UU Bar.  Chuck is currently the Livestock Foreman for Philmont’s Ranch Department, and has been full-time in the department since 2002.  We discuss the year-round work of the department, which of course is necessary to maintain Philmont’s standing as a working cattle ranch - all the while providing participants with memorable ranch experiences in the summertime. Philmont Experience:1968, 69, 70 - Philmont trek1971 - Dining Hall Staff1972 - Wrangler1975 - Wrangler1976-1980 - Horsemen at Ponil1983 - Cavalcade Horseman1992, 1999, 2000, 2001 - Ponil Horseman1995 - 2002 - Fence Crew Full-Time2002 - 2019 - Ranch Department staff2019 - Present - Livestock ForemanPhoto: La Grulla Cow Camp, 1984 with Snip and Lefty.Notable MentionsJim FosterDoug JohnsonDanny SaloneAlice MooreJoe MontoyaBob KnoxRod &amp; Patti TaylorBen VargasBob RicklefsJessica SiefertLeroy WebbLee BassChris CochaJeremy SpiveyBrian HobrockDr. John AlexanderBart RayerCarrie AndersonSupport the show

Today, dedicated, life-long cowboy Chuck Enloe joins the show. Chuck has been working at Philmont seasonally and full-time for a combined total of 40 years.  He’s also worked at prominent Northern New Mexico ranches including the Moore Ranch and UU Bar.  Chuck is currently the Livestock Foreman for Philmont’s Ranch Department, and has been full-time in the department since 2002.  We discuss the year-round work of the department, which of course is necessary to maintain Philmont’s standing as a working cattle ranch - all the while providing participants with memorable ranch experiences in the summertime. Philmont Experience: 1968, 69, 70 - Philmont trek 1971 - Dining Hall Staff 1972 - Wrangler 1975 - Wrangler 1976-1980 - Horsemen at Ponil 1983 - Cavalcade Horseman 1992, 1999, 2000, 2001 - Ponil Horseman 1995 - 2002 - Fence Crew Full-Time 2002 - 2019 - Ranch Department staff 2019 - Present - Livestock Foreman Photo: La Grulla Cow Camp, 1984 with Snip and Lefty. Notable Mentions Jim Foster Doug Johnson Danny Salone Alice Moore Joe Montoya Bob Knox Rod &amp; Patti Taylor Ben Vargas Bob Ricklefs Jessica Siefert Leroy Webb Lee Bass Chris Cocha Jeremy Spivey Brian Hobrock Dr. John Alexander Bart Rayer Carrie Anderson<a href="https://pod.fan/silveronthesagepodcast" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">Support the show</a>

Chuck Enloe

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