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The Bunker

Politics, locked down.From the producers of Oh God, What Now? (formerly Remainiacs), The Bunker is fearless, independent political talk for Britain and beyond. We examine the big issues with humour and expertise, cutting through the claptrap to make sense of what’s really going on – and give you the fighting spirit to keep on keeping on.Our full-panel roundtable podcast goes out every Tuesday, with shorter Bunker Daily editions on a single subject or interview on Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays, and Fridays. Our regulars include: Alex Andreou • Ian Dunt • Miatta Fahnbulleh • Andrew Harrison • Ayesha Hazarika • Dorian Lynskey • Justin Quirk • Yasmeen Serhan • Ahir Shah • Naomi Smith • Arthur Snell • Ros Taylor. • Sign Up and Listen: patreon.com/bunkercast. The Bunker is a Podmasters production.

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Daily: NIGELLA LAWSON’s lockdown kitchen

Domestic Goddess NIGELLA LAWSON comes to the nation’s aid in a Lockdown Kitchen conversation with our own Alex Andreou. What’s her emergency back-of-the-cupboard recipe for when the chips are down (and there aren’t any chips)? Is isolation reminding us to value our food culture a little more? Plus top kitchen tips – yes, it turns out you can freeze cheese – and a titanic clash of potato-peel crisp techniques between Nigella and Alex. “They say the Italians are extravagant with food but not wasteful. I’m a lot like that.” – Nigella Lawson“For someone like me, not having lots of people to cook for is strange. But it does make you reflect on exactly what cooking means to you.” – Nigella LawsonPresented by Alex Andreou. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. The Bunker is a Podmasters Production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

26mins

6 Apr 2020

Rank #1

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Rough Trade: Can Britain bully its way to an EU commerce deal?

As Michael Gove dumps the frictionless trade we were promised into the memory hole, will good old-fashioned belligerence get the Government the EU commerce settlement it wants? And what DOES it want anyway? Trade expert Dmitry Grozoubinski explains it all. Plus, Cath Haddon of the Institute for Government on Classic Dom’s preparations to reform the British Constitution (with an axe?). And why does the rest of Britain hate London? All on the (mostly) Brexit-free podcast from the makers of Remainiacs.“From the very moment Boris Johnson entered No.10 it’s been very hard to work out the objective truth on what’s going on. And that’s a strategy.” – Ian Dunt“No conversation that begins with ‘The thing about trade is…’ will ever get you a telephone number at the end of the night.” – Dmitry Grozoubinski Produced and presented by Andrew Harrison with Ian Dunt. Audio production by Alex Rees. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickenson. Logo and artwork by Mark Taylor. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters production.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

48mins

11 Feb 2020

Rank #2

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The Coronavirus Conundrum – plus Bernie vs Biden vs Bloomberg

Wily virus comes in like a wrecking ball… Are poor leadership and bad information hampering the UK and US fight against the Coronavirus? Bernie, Biden, or Bloomberg on Super Tuesday. To beat Trump do you need someone as crazy as, well, Trump? Or will any shouty billionaire do? Priti Patel’s nasty regime. And was South Park the Nirvana to the alt.right’s Nickelback?Self-isolating in The Bunker this week with Dorian Lynskey are Ayesha Hazarika, Ian Dunt and special guest Brian Klass, political scientist at UCL, Washington Post columnist and host of the Power Corrupts podcast. “Most of the things America has gotten away with are simply because Trump’s own stupidity hadn’t caught up with him.” – Brian KlaasPresented by Dorian Lynskey with Ayesha Hazarika and Ian Dunt. Audio production by Alex Rees. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickenson. Logo and artwork by Mark Taylor. Produced by Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters production.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

50mins

4 Mar 2020

Rank #3

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“YES in my back yard?” A housing revolution

“Here are we living in a tin can…” If NIMBY helped create Britain’s housing nightmare, is YIMBY the answer? We talk to the grassroots disrupters who are trying to turn Britain’s development-phobia on its head with the battlecry “yes in my backyard.” Plus: the Democrat Primaries. Is the party about to make the same mistake as Labour and nominate a kindly old grandpa who just can’t get the votes? And what the hell is TikTok? Why is every 12 year old in your life using it to hog the broadband? All this and more on the Brexit-free* podcast from the makers of Remainiacs. This week’s panel is comedian Ahir Shah (on tour now, fans of fun) and Best For Britain CEO Naomi Smith with special guest John Myers of London YIMBY. “The unfortunate truth is that if don’t build flats that bankers want to live in, then bankers are going to price YOU out of that affordable home YOU wanted to live in.” – John Myers* MostlyProduced and presented by Andrew Harrison with Naomi Smith and Ahir Shah. Audio production by Alex Rees. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickenson. Logo and artwork by Mark Taylor. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters production.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

45mins

18 Feb 2020

Rank #4

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Coronanomics and Intensive Keir

As the Corona Age sets in, will it change our politics and economy more fundamentally than your average here-today-gone-tomorrow World Existential Crisis? What does the outpouring of national gratitude towards the NHS mean for its future? And will the Government’s fumbling of the EU ventilator bulk-buy develop into a full-blown scandal? Plus special guest Darren Jones, MP for Bristol North West, joins us to explain what the Keir Starmer’s Labour Party will look like. “We’ve seen a lot of self-defeating austerity in recent years, where things that were supposed to save money ended up costing vast amounts more elsewhere. That’s what we need to stop.” – Helen Lewis“Everyone’s talking about the Second World War, but we’re not trying to mobilise people. We’re trying to demobilise them.” – Arthur SnellWe’re recording remotely and still working on our sound, so please excuse our audio quality for the moment. Presented by Dorian Lynskey with Helen Lewis and Arthur Snell. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Script and assistant production by Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickenson. Logo and artwork by Mark Taylor. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters production.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

53mins

1 Apr 2020

Rank #5

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Labour’s bin-fire reignites

The Labour antisemitism leak: what does it mean and is anyone going to jail for a data breach? Plus, how long can lockdown continue? Why herd immunity isn’t a scare phrase but in fact the only way we’ll beat COVID. The magical, corporeally-fixated incantations of the Johnson fan-press. And how Corona is changing technology. Who’ll win out if the emergency forces the battle of the streaming titans to a grand season finale?Ian Dunt, Helen Lewis and special guest Stuart Dredge, tech writer for The Guardian, convene to sort it all out. “At no point did [the Labour Left] confront the idea that people didn’t like their candidate or their policies… If it’s always someone else’s fault, what are you going to change next time?” – Helen Lewis“People talk about how good Hong Kong’s response was. But in Hong Kong, if you test positive they take you away and put you in Covid Butlins.” – Helen LewisPresented and produced by Andrew Harrison. Script and assistant production by Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickenson. Logo and artwork by Mark Taylor. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters production.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

53mins

15 Apr 2020

Rank #6

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I Can See Keirly Now – plus football’s murky future

If Keir Starmer’s victory is a done deal, what battlegrounds should Labour’s new leader choose? Standard/Buzzfeed/Telegraph journo Marie le Conte and former Labour MEP Rory Palmer debate the future of Starmerism. Plus Marie explains what the hell’s happening in France – and the don of football writing Philippe Auclair explains why despite a frenzy of busts and exposés, world football’s corruption problems are worse than ever. Produced and presented by Andrew Harrison with script and assistant production Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickenson. Logo and artwork by Mark Taylor. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters production.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

50mins

11 Mar 2020

Rank #7

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COVID-19: Life during wartime

LO-FI REMOTE RECORDING, completed right before Sunak’s £330bn announcement… Corona bites harder. Can Boris Johnson persuade us to trust the science after so many years of telling us not to trust experts? What’s more likely to motivate people to self-isolate: a sense of duty or outright fear? Should the British government’s go-it-alone approach provoke confidence? And have we inadvertently trained people to stockpile? Plus, will the eventual reconstruction of the world economy mean the much-criticised Utopian ideal of Universal Basic Income will become mainstream policy? Campaigner Jonny Ross-Tatam of Basic Income North thinks so. “Johnson has abused and broken down people’s trust in him. And now he wants it, I’m not surprised that the reaction is, why the hell should we listen to you now?” – Ros“This is making us all nostalgic for Brexit. I’d kill for the Malthouse Compromise now, and not a real-life scene from ‘Contagion’.” – Ayesha Hazarika Presented by Dorian Lynskey with Ayesha Hazarika and Ros Taylor. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer: Jacob Archbold. Audio production: Alex Rees. The Bunker is a Podmasters production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

50mins

18 Mar 2020

Rank #8

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Wrong arm of the law? Roughing up the justice system

With Dom’n’Priti at the controls, is Britain’s failing justice system ready to be reformed within an inch of its life? Inside points-based immigration for the world’s unemployed Mandarin-speaking violinists. And with Starmer on course to lead Labour, we play Shadow Cabinet Fantasy Football to predict who’ll make the team – and who’s leaving on a free. Oh, and we have some exciting news from the live arena too… This week’s panel is Helen Lewis of The Atlantic (new book Difficult Women out this week) and Ros Taylor of LSE “B”-word blogs, with special guest Sashy Nathan of Commons Legal and 89Up. “If you want to get involved in men’s rights then get into prison reform. It is the biggest male-based injustice in the country.” – Helen LewisProduced and presented by Andrew Harrison with Ros Taylor and Helen Lewis. Audio production by Alex Rees. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickenson. Logo and artwork by Mark Taylor. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters production.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

50mins

26 Feb 2020

Rank #9

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Daily: Sweden’s Corona gamble

While the rest of Europe locked down, Sweden took a different and much looser path on dealing with COVID. Is their controversial approach working? Is Sweden right to measure itself against a longer-term tally of suffering caused by the virus’s economic consequences, and not just the immediate death toll? Andrew Brown, author of Fishing in Utopia: Sweden and the Future that Disappeared talks to Ros Taylor about the biggest COVID gamble in Europe. “There’s a view that everyone is pursuing the Swedish strategy, whether they know it or not.”“This is a fairly brutal way of doing it. But Sweden’s view is that the facts are brutal.” “Swedish opinion is like a shoal of herring. They all head in the same direction together – but that direction can change suddenly.”“The Swedish government can be extremely bossy – but part of the technique of social control was to deny that it existed.”Presented by Ros Taylor. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

22mins

23 Apr 2020

Rank #10

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Nothin’ But A 5G Thang

After the Sunday Times exposé of Johnson’s indolent initial response to the COVID crisis, is the Government’s infantile “rebuttal” an attempt to rewrite the facts of what happened? Hard Lockdown vs Soft Open: economics writer Frances Coppola joins us to scope out the far future of post-plague Coronanomics. Gove-building and Hancock-smashing. And it’s high times for conspiracy theorists. What are we going to do about Bill Gates’s 5G weaponised virus bats? “Who’s giving up on market-led economics right now? The markets themselves.” – Frances Coppola“Eamonn Holmes might think he’s ‘just asking questions’. But they’re asking the wrong questions.” – Nina Schick“With Johnson indisposed they’re terrified of creating a rival. What if Rishi Sunak becomes the face of Government?” – Alex AndreouPresented by Dorian Lynskey with Nina Schick and Alex Andreou. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Script and assistant production by Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickenson. Logo and artwork by Mark Taylor. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters production.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

53mins

22 Apr 2020

Rank #11

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Never mind the Bolsonaro: Could COVID push Brazil over the edge?

Meanwhile, in Brazil… Extreme populist President Jair Bolsonaro’s dismissive response to the Corona crisis makes even Trump’s look vaguely reasonable. Could the anti-lockdown sentiment he’s fomenting push Brazil into real crisis? And how does this homophobic, military fetishist, formerly marginal far-right figure maintain power? Rio-based British journalist DOM PHILLIPS talks to Dorian Lynskey about wild times in the world’s sixth-largest country. “A professor in Rio once described Bolsanaro as just a troll… but he has a very popular touch. And he’s very, very extreme.” “The stuff I saw during the elections, it’s absolutely staggering that a mainstream politician would say these things.” Presented by Dorian Lynskey. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

30mins

11 May 2020

Rank #12

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Daily: Will COVID take meat off your plate?

We’ve all heard about the “wet markets” in Wuhan. How connected are COVID-19 and dangers of future pandemics to the world meat trade? JULIET GELLATLEY of vegan charity Viva! explains how indiscriminate mixing of species and neglect of hygiene in meat markets creates the perfect breeding ground for another viral emergency. Is giving up meat – or eating less of it – no longer a matter of personal choice but world public health?“More and more diseases are emerging from animals and crossing over to human beings… Three in four new diseases come from animals.”Presented by Naomi Smith. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

30mins

20 Apr 2020

Rank #13

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“The most serious science policy failure in a generation”

Britain’s COVID response is now officially the worst in Europe – yet somehow Boris Johnson is getting away it. How? Plus: The NHS triumphant. Health policy expert Roy Lilley on how the service must change after the Corona ordeal. And what have we learned on our enforced retreat into inner space? Gavin Esler and Ayesha Hazarika join Andrew Harrison for this week’s full-length BUNKER.“Everyone’s an epidemiologist nowadays.” Produced and presented by Andrew Harrison. Script and assistant production by Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickenson. Logo and artwork by Mark Taylor. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters production.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

48mins

6 May 2020

Rank #14

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DAILY: “This is the NHS’s day and this is its hour” with health expert ROY LILLEY

COVID-19 has put the NHS under the spotlight as never before but how many of us really understand the true state of this national treasure? ROY LILLEY is one of the most influential voices in the world of public health. Today he explains the catastrophic errors on the road to Corona, what the outpouring of love and respect for NHS workers means for its future, how the NHS compares to other health systems worldwide… and what must happen if the NHS is to survive. WARNING: Andrew Lansley should probably not listen to this podcast. “I travel the world and the one thing everyone says to me is, We wish we had your system.”“The NHS is holding its collective breath as to what’s to come.”“This is the biggest challenge since 5 July 1948 when the NHS was born. This is its day and this is its hour.” “That round of applause changed the status of the NHS forever. There is no politician who can touch it now.” Presented and produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

35mins

9 Apr 2020

Rank #15

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Daily: Can AVIATION survive isolation?

The airline and travel industries are suffering the most serious crisis in their history: worse than 9/11, the 2008 financial slump and the Icelandic volcano combined. Can air travel survive COVID? And given its carbon footprint, do we even want it to? Aviation writer JOHN WALTON tells Andrew Harrison how airlines will have to change, why the industry can’t operate on a financial knife edge any longer… and if it’s right for bearded billionaires with private islands to get the begging bowl out.Presented and produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

33mins

26 Apr 2020

Rank #16

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Daily: CHINA CRISIS with Dr Yu Jie

How did China really perform in the biggest global health disaster in 100 years? Chatham House China and diplomacy expert DR YU JIE gives Alex Andreou the inside story on the PRC’s response to Corona. What was behind the infamous silencing of warnings about the virus from local doctors? Will the Crisis threaten the Party’s rule? What it’s like to live with China’s stringent, ultra-personal monitoring programme? And how do things feel different for a Chinese person in the West now?“China needs to let the scientific evidence speak for itself, rather than orchestrating a propaganda campaign to tell its narrative.” “Chinese social media is not particularly kind about Chinese people returning home. They say ‘Why are you bringing the virus home to us?” “The 100th anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party comes in 2021. China will need an economic success story to tell its population.”Presented by Alex Andreou. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

19mins

16 Apr 2020

Rank #17

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The Laissez-Failure Edition

As Boris Johnson returns to work, will we see a chastened lockdown hawk or will he revert to his laissez-faire instincts? With trust in journalists plummeting, who decided that it’s the media’s job to ask “helpful questions” of government? Plus Conservative MP Robert Largan joins us to discuss whether infrastructure is the silver bullet to fix the Corona-hit economy.“We are watching unprecedented deaths… To talk about ‘success’ right now is obscene.” – Ian DuntPresented by Ros Taylor with Naomi Smith and Ian Dunt. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Script and assistant production by Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickenson. Logo and artwork by Mark Taylor. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters production.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

47mins

29 Apr 2020

Rank #18

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DAILY: Give me liberty AND give me death?

Who’s up for some philosophy? COVID is shaping up as a crucible for the very idea of freedom – and an ultimate test for populism and libertarianism. Ian Dunt talks to TOBY BUCKLE of the Political Philosophy Podcast about what freedom means, who owns it, what the lockdown is doing to international notions of liberty, and whether Boris Johnson is, if possible, even worse than Trump. “Look at the evidence. Don’t look at your intuition. What seems obvious to you won’t be obvious to someone from another part of the country.” “Politics isn’t about policies. It’s about disagreements about the meaning of words.” Presented by Ian Dunt. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

25mins

8 May 2020

Rank #19

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Daily: The COVID mental health challenge

The lockdown is impacting everyone differently but it’s hitting people with pre-existing mental health issues especially hard. Demand for help with depression and anxiety are up by 30% worldwide, and the impending once-in-a-century recession is likely to make it worse. Will Higham of the charity Rethink Mental Illness talks to Naomi Smith about the post-COVID crisis in mental wellbeing – and how it affects young people especially. Presented by Naomi Smith. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Script and assistant production by Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickenson. Logo and artwork by Mark Taylor. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters production.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

19mins

30 Apr 2020

Rank #20