Justin Brooks

Justin Brooks is the author of You Might Go To Prison, Even Though You're Innocent. He is also the director of the California Innocence Project, which has freed 36 wrongly convicted people from over 570 years of wrongful imprisonment. But what sort of toll does that work take on the people who do it? And what do you learn along the way?  This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

Justin Brooks is the author of You Might Go To Prison, Even Though You're Innocent. He is also the director of the California Innocence Project, which has freed 36 wrongly convicted people from over 570 years of wrongful imprisonment. But what sort of toll does that work take on the people who do it? And what do you learn along the way?  This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#71 - You Might Go to Prison, Even Though You're Innocent (Justin Brooks)

True crime has become a massive industry that takes real life suffering as grist for the content mill. Is it possible to tell such stories in an ethical way? How did we even get here? To answer these questions, we're diving into history to see where true crime came from, how it evolved, and where it is today. Along the way, we'll be talking with victims, podcasters, filmmakers, critics and other true crime luminaries. This is part 1 of Blood Money, a five-part miniseries.  "Packington's pound" music courtesy of Valery Sauvage aka Luthval on YouTube This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

True crime has become a massive industry that takes real life suffering as grist for the content mill. Is it possible to tell such stories in an ethical way? How did we even get here? To answer these questions, we're diving into history to see where true crime came from, how it evolved, and where it is today. Along the way, we'll be talking with victims, podcasters, filmmakers, critics and other true crime luminaries. This is part 1 of Blood Money, a five-part miniseries.   "Packington's pound" music courtesy of Valery Sauvage aka Luthval on YouTube This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#66 - Blood Money - Part 1: One Bloody Thing After Another

In part 2 of Blood Money, we're stepping into the ground zero where all true crime stories originate: with the victims. Kris Pedretti, Christine Marie, and Sarah Turney help us explore what it means to be at the center of a true crime story, and how the media can be another source of trauma. Content warning: sexual assault and sex trafficking. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

In part 2 of Blood Money, we're stepping into the ground zero where all true crime stories originate: with the victims. Kris Pedretti, Christine Marie, and Sarah Turney help us explore what it means to be at the center of a true crime story, and how the media can be another source of trauma. Content warning: sexual assault and sex trafficking. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#67 - Blood Money - Part 2: The Fishbowl

In part 3 of Blood Money, we're stepping inside the content machine. Filmmaker Brian McGinn and author Nicki Egan take us through the incentives and pitfalls facing any true crime content creator. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

In part 3 of Blood Money, we're stepping inside the content machine. Filmmaker Brian McGinn and author Nicki Egan take us through the incentives and pitfalls facing any true crime content creator. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#68 - Blood Money - Part 3: The Content Machine

True crime has spawned a fandom like no other, with controversial merch, conventions, and online sleuths. Sarah Turney, Jen Tisdale, Paul Holes, and Katherine Laidlaw help us disect this fandom, and see the costs and consequences of true crime obsession. This is part 4 of Blood Money, a five-part miniseries. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

True crime has spawned a fandom like no other, with controversial merch, conventions, and online sleuths. Sarah Turney, Jen Tisdale, Paul Holes, and Katherine Laidlaw help us disect this fandom, and see the costs and consequences of true crime obsession. This is part 4 of Blood Money, a five-part miniseries. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#69 - Blood Money - Part 4: Murdertopia

In part 5, the final installment of Blood money, we're looking to the future to ask: how can true crime be more ethical? What does true crime with a conscience look like? Many of our previous guests, and few new ones like Mark Olshaker and Jon Ronson offer some thoughts on where the genre is heading, and how we might all shape it for the better. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

In part 5, the final installment of Blood money, we're looking to the future to ask: how can true crime be more ethical? What does true crime with a conscience look like? Many of our previous guests, and few new ones like Mark Olshaker and Jon Ronson offer some thoughts on where the genre is heading, and how we might all shape it for the better. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#70 - Blood Money - Part 5: True Crime With A Conscience

We've got some updates for you, a preview of BLOOD MONEY, our upcoming miniseries about the history and ethics of true crime, and we answer your questions, about trauma gremlins, smiling through hell, and how to deal with bad faith arguments.Learn more about your ad choices. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

We've got some updates for you, a preview of BLOOD MONEY, our upcoming miniseries about the history and ethics of true crime, and we answer your questions, about trauma gremlins, smiling through hell, and how to deal with bad faith arguments.Learn more about your ad choices. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

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Joe Berlinger

When Joe Berlinger packed up his things to go to West Memphis, Arkansas in 1993, he thought he was going to make a documentary about a satanic ritual murder. Instead, he found a witch hunt determined to condemn three innocent boys. Over the next two decades, Joe and his partner Bruce Sinofsky made three documentaries about the case. Those films played a critical role in the eventual release of the West Memphis Three.Learn more about your ad choices. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

When Joe Berlinger packed up his things to go to West Memphis, Arkansas in 1993, he thought he was going to make a documentary about a satanic ritual murder. Instead, he found a witch hunt determined to condemn three innocent boys. Over the next two decades, Joe and his partner Bruce Sinofsky made three documentaries about the case. Those films played a critical role in the eventual release of the West Memphis Three.Learn more about your ad choices. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#65 - Documenting Innocence (Joe Berlinger)

Jason Baldwin

By the time he was sixteen, Jason Baldwin had already felt the sting of prejudice from his community in West Memphis, Arkansas. Kids at the trailer park where he lived had long been shunned by more well off residents of the town. Still, nothing could have prepared him for how vicious these prejudices would turn once the bodies of three eight year old boys were found murdered. Jason and two of his friends were convicted of the murder despite a complete lack of physical evidence. If not for the case coming to the attention of two documentary filmmakers, the West Memphis Three would likely still be in prison today.This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

By the time he was sixteen, Jason Baldwin had already felt the sting of prejudice from his community in West Memphis, Arkansas. Kids at the trailer park where he lived had long been shunned by more well off residents of the town. Still, nothing could have prepared him for how vicious these prejudices would turn once the bodies of three eight year old boys were found murdered. Jason and two of his friends were convicted of the murder despite a complete lack of physical evidence. If not for the case coming to the attention of two documentary filmmakers, the West Memphis Three would likely still be in prison today.This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#64 - Protect Your Heart (Jason Baldwin)

Anna Vasquez

Anna Vasquez was just nineteen when she and three of her friends were accused of a horrific crime that they were completely innocent of. Their case was swept up in the mass hysteria about satanic cults that had seized the country in the 80s and 90s. It would take twenty four years for Anna and her friends to be fully exonerated, including over a decade in prison. But Anna's story didn't end with her release from prison or even with her exoneration. After prison, Anna found love.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesThis podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

Anna Vasquez was just nineteen when she and three of her friends were accused of a horrific crime that they were completely innocent of. Their case was swept up in the mass hysteria about satanic cults that had seized the country in the 80s and 90s. It would take twenty four years for Anna and her friends to be fully exonerated, including over a decade in prison. But Anna's story didn't end with her release from prison or even with her exoneration. After prison, Anna found love.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="http://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#63 - Love and Justice (Anna Vasquez)

Everyone is navigating their own personal maze, complete with winding paths, dead ends, short cuts, and Minotaurs. In Labyrinths, Amanda Knox and her partner Christopher Robinson delve into stories of getting lost and found again through compassionate interviews, philosophical rants, and playful debate with fascinating people. Expect dark and hilarious misadventures, nagging and controversial questions, and above all, expect to arrive at unexpected places.Get ad-free episodes and access to exclusive patron-only content at www.patreon.com/knoxrobinsonPart of the New Thinking network

Dylan Marron

Most people are pretty bad at having difficult conversations. We don't get much practice--the internet makes sure that we mostly see content from people we agree with. When we do see opposing viewpoints, it's usually in the form of hateful comments. But when Dylan Marron started receiving a deluge of online abuse in response to his viral video series, he did the opposite of what most people do. He gave his detractors a call. Photo credit: Mindy Tucker.This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

Most people are pretty bad at having difficult conversations. We don't get much practice--the internet makes sure that we mostly see content from people we agree with. When we do see opposing viewpoints, it's usually in the form of hateful comments. But when Dylan Marron started receiving a deluge of online abuse in response to his viral video series, he did the opposite of what most people do. He gave his detractors a call. Photo credit: Mindy Tucker.This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#62 - The Why of the Why (Dylan Marron)

Jennifer felt trapped--her two sons were addicted to drugs, in and out of jail and rehab, and living on the streets. What had she done wrong as a mother? How could she save them? Was trying to save them her own addiction? This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

Jennifer felt trapped--her two sons were addicted to drugs, in and out of jail and rehab, and living on the streets. What had she done wrong as a mother? How could she save them? Was trying to save them her own addiction? This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#61 - It Only Takes One Person to Change (Jennifer Lovely)

When our guest today, Christian, was checked into a psych ward in the midst of a manic episode a few years ago, he had no prior history of mental illness. He'd certainly never had delusions of the kind that had come to consume him over the last few days. As it turned out, the culprit for the drastic change in Christian's mental state was not one people would normally think of. His manic episode with psychotic features had been induced by cannabis. Learn more about your ad choices. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

When our guest today, Christian, was checked into a psych ward in the midst of a manic episode a few years ago, he had no prior history of mental illness. He'd certainly never had delusions of the kind that had come to consume him over the last few days. As it turned out, the culprit for the drastic change in Christian's mental state was not one people would normally think of. His manic episode with psychotic features had been induced by cannabis. Learn more about your ad choices. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#60 - Dark Side of the Moon (Christian)

Few people can say that they have remade themselves as completely as Lee Turnbull. He went from being a violent young man in London to being a happy, well-adjusted soccer coach in the States. Getting there required not just a change in his lifestyle, but a dramatic change in his values.Learn more about your ad choices. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

Few people can say that they have remade themselves as completely as Lee Turnbull. He went from being a violent young man in London to being a happy, well-adjusted soccer coach in the States. Getting there required not just a change in his lifestyle, but a dramatic change in his values.Learn more about your ad choices. This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#59 - There's Other Ways to Do the Things (Lee Turnbull)

Before Adolf Hitler was a genocidal autocrat, he was a young art student who loved his mother. Before Vladimir Lenin was a Marxist revolutionary, he was the privileged son of loving parents, radicalized by his older brother. And before Joseph Stalin was a ruthless dictator, he was an abused child who was terrified of his father. Why should we know or care about these details? In the face of the crimes these men committed, their early lives seem irrelevant. But Brandon Gauthier argues that it is important to try to have empathy for even the most hateful historical figures. Only by understanding evil, he says, can we stop it from happening again. Brandon stopped by Labyrinths to tell us about his book, Before Evil, that explores the lives of these men before they became the murderous despots we remember them as today.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesThis podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

Before Adolf Hitler was a genocidal autocrat, he was a young art student who loved his mother. Before Vladimir Lenin was a Marxist revolutionary, he was the privileged son of loving parents, radicalized by his older brother. And before Joseph Stalin was a ruthless dictator, he was an abused child who was terrified of his father. Why should we know or care about these details? In the face of the crimes these men committed, their early lives seem irrelevant. But Brandon Gauthier argues that it is important to try to have empathy for even the most hateful historical figures. Only by understanding evil, he says, can we stop it from happening again. Brandon stopped by Labyrinths to tell us about his book, Before Evil, that explores the lives of these men before they became the murderous despots we remember them as today.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="http://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#58 - Before Evil (Brandon Gauthier)

Molly Bloom

You may have heard Molly Bloom's name from tabloid headlines about a "poker princess" or from the 2017 movie, Molly's Game. But Molly has a deeper story to tell. Though her life has taken an unusual number of twists and turns--from poker millionaire to convicted felon to bestselling author--Molly's reflections on it all are universal. They include her thoughts on material gratification, on being represented (and misrepresented) by others, and on finding power within yourself.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesThis podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

You may have heard Molly Bloom's name from tabloid headlines about a "poker princess" or from the 2017 movie, Molly's Game. But Molly has a deeper story to tell. Though her life has taken an unusual number of twists and turns--from poker millionaire to convicted felon to bestselling author--Molly's reflections on it all are universal. They include her thoughts on material gratification, on being represented (and misrepresented) by others, and on finding power within yourself.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="http://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#57 - If This Doesn't Fix You, Nothing Will (Molly Bloom)

Chris Ballew

Chris Ballew never expected or even particularly wanted mainstream success. But when his band, the Presidents of the United States of America, hit it big, he had to reckon with what success meant to him and figure out how to say no when everyone around him wanted him to say yes.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesThis podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

Chris Ballew never expected or even particularly wanted mainstream success. But when his band, the Presidents of the United States of America, hit it big, he had to reckon with what success meant to him and figure out how to say no when everyone around him wanted him to say yes.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="http://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#56 - Acknowledging the No (Chris Ballew)

Before Bobby Kumparak adopted Lucy, a French bulldog, he had never thought of a dog as a member of his family. But Lucy was different. The bond Bobby and his wife, Angela, shared with Lucy was more than owner and pet. So Bobby and Angela were utterly devastated when Lucy was stolen from their backyard one night. In the quest to find Lucy, they learned that the issue of pet theft is much bigger than most of us realize.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesThis podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

Before Bobby Kumparak adopted Lucy, a French bulldog, he had never thought of a dog as a member of his family. But Lucy was different. The bond Bobby and his wife, Angela, shared with Lucy was more than owner and pet. So Bobby and Angela were utterly devastated when Lucy was stolen from their backyard one night. In the quest to find Lucy, they learned that the issue of pet theft is much bigger than most of us realize.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="http://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#55 - Pet Theft (Bobby Kumparak)

Twenty years ago, Roz Savage was a management consultant living in London with her husband. From the outside, it looked like a good life, but Roz was miserable. Until she blew up that life and found a new one on the other side of the ocean. She'd just have to row for three and half months to get there.  (episode art created with AI by Mid Journey)Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesThis podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

Twenty years ago, Roz Savage was a management consultant living in London with her husband. From the outside, it looked like a good life, but Roz was miserable. Until she blew up that life and found a new one on the other side of the ocean. She'd just have to row for three and half months to get there.  (episode art created with AI by Mid Journey)Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="http://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#54 - The Point of No Return (Roz Savage)

A few months ago, we sat down to do something we'd never done before: a live Labyrinths episode! And we knew there was no better place to do it than our home, Vashon Island. Most people haven't heard of our rural island near Seattle, but we know that it's a rich community of eccentrics with a lot of stories to offer. Today, we've brought you three stories of plane crashes, lost pets, and local journalism.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesThis podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit www.newthinking.com

A few months ago, we sat down to do something we'd never done before: a live Labyrinths episode! And we knew there was no better place to do it than our home, Vashon Island. Most people haven't heard of our rural island near Seattle, but we know that it's a rich community of eccentrics with a lot of stories to offer. Today, we've brought you three stories of plane crashes, lost pets, and local journalism.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="http://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>This podcast is presented by New Thinking. For more information, please visit <a href="https://www.newthinking.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.newthinking.com</a>

#53 - Live at the VCA

Everyone is navigating their own personal maze, complete with winding paths, dead ends, short cuts, and Minotaurs. In Labyrinths, Amanda Knox and her partner Christopher Robinson delve into stories of getting lost and found again through compassionate interviews, philosophical rants, and playful debate with fascinating people. Expect dark and hilarious misadventures, nagging and controversial questions, and above all, expect to arrive at unexpected places.Get ad-free episodes and access to exclusive patron-only content at <a href="http://www.patreon.com/knoxrobinson" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/knoxrobinson</a> Part of the New Thinking network

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