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#36 Henry Zhu: Let's Talk About Male Mental Health and Masculinity

The Range Project

Henry Zhu studied psychology at Harvard and is now Chief of Staff at The JED Foundation, which aims to protect the emotional health of, and prevent suicide for, teens and young adults. While the foundation advises schools on mental health policies and runs PSAs with celebrities like Billie Eilish and leagues like the NBA, Henry is especially interested in male mental health and modern masculinity overall. Basically, how the culture pushes boys and men to think and behave in a certain way that is getting in the way of guys being their healthiest selves. As you might be able to guess, that’s where what we focus our conversation on today. Relationships. Vulnerability. Self worth. All the things that make us whole. And don’t let Henry’s soft spoken nature fool you - he is incredibly passionate, knowledgable, and ambitious about improving mental health for young people and males in particular. Full show notes here at chrismcgrory.net --- To support mental health resources and get yourself some gear that can start meaningful conversations, head over to nosolobrand.com and use code RANGE20 for 20% your purchase. 

1hr 24mins

21 Feb 2022

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“A Call to Strengthen Men’s Mental Health” with Henry Zhu

Unapologetically Black Unicorns

Henry Zhu (he/him) is the Chief of Staff at The Jed Foundation and he is an Unapologetically Black Unicorn. Henry shares how he got involved with the JED Foundation and how he found mentors along the way. They talk about youth mental health and finding a voice that youth can resonate with, men’s mental health, trying to advance BIPOC leadership and advocates as well as some of their wellness strategies. Henry Zhu’s report – “A Call to Strengthen Men’s Mental Health”: https://jedfoundation.org/news-views/a-call-to-strengthen-mens-mental-health/ If you or someone you know is in a mental or substance use disorder crisis, call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-273-8255.


18 Jan 2022

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Episode 38 | I Know You Are But What Am I? ft. Henry Zhu

Sausage Boys Podcast

On this weeks episode, the boys are joined by Sydney comic Henry Zhu and discuss his new standup show Benchwarmers Comedy, Henry’s mum wanting him to die, kissing boys, Jackson being in a Juo with his Israeli girlfriend, doing an open mic for the first time being like sex and so much more. Only on the Sausage Boys Podcast.

1hr 11mins

23 Jun 2021

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119: Henry Zhu on Building Babel

React Podcast

FeaturingHenry Zhu — Twitter, GitHub, Websitechantastic — Twitter, GitHub, WebsiteDiscordJoin the discussion Discord 🎉🎊🥳Listeners of React Podcast are chatting on Discord!Join us Thursdays at 10am CT for a friendly chat thru the latest episode.It's fun, interactive and all are welcome!Discord inviteLinksBabelBabel on Open CollectiveBabel on GitHub SponsorsSource with Nadia EghbalWorking in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software by Nadia Eghbal11: City as Litergy (Bonus) episode on SourceThe Death and Life of Great American Cities on Amazon (Affiliate Link)SponsorsAWS AmplifyAWS Amplify is the fastest, easiest way to develop web and mobile apps that scale.Get started building a React app today, check out the tutorial on AWS Amplify today, visit awsamplify.info/react.Infinite RedIn over your head with a React or React Native app?Infinite Red can help.They are React Native core contributors who've been designing, building and shipping apps for over 10 years.Learn more at reactpodcast.infinite.red.Get involvedBlack Lives MatterPlease join us in donating to the Equal Justice Initiative


19 Nov 2020

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Episode 38: Community is Everything: Open Source with Henry Zhu (Part 3)

Enjoy the Vue

Welcome back to another episode of Enjoy the Vue. This concludes our three-part interview with Babel maintainer, Henry Zhu. Last time, we closed our discussion with what work maintainers of open source projects do that is not straight coding. In this episode, we continue talking with Henry about what do people count as maintenance work versus other tasks that definitely need to get done, but are perhaps less visible to the public eye. Henry also shares his approaches to taking care of himself and the pursuit of serendipity, and we discuss the inclusivity of the open source community, the relationship between in-person communities and open source culture, and we get into our picks of the week, so make sure not to miss this episode! Key Points From This Episode: Henry opens with the dichotomy between freedom and obligation for maintainers. Maintainers don’t see certain tasks as maintenance, such as answering user queries. What Henry does to take care of himself, like sport or playing music, and his musings on what serendipity looks like in an online setting. Spaces that promote serendipity, and why actively pursuing serendipity is not a paradox. There are communities like Google Summer of Code that promote open source involvement. Preferences are shaped through experiences of the communities, so it is important that they be inclusive, particularly for women. The relationship between in-person communities and open source culture. Ben’s picks this week include a ukulele, Azul, and Nadia Eghbal’s book, Working in Public. Veekas recommends Kim’s Convenience and Race After Technology by Ruha Benjamin. Henry’s picks include Tools for Conviviality by Ivan Illich, and a card game called The Mind. Tessa suggests Journey, the Reply series, and Conquer Your Critical Inner Voice. Tweetables: “How do we get people to have a higher sense of ownership so that we can lessen the burden on maintainers?” — @left_pad [0:02:37] “There's an aspect of serendipity involves risk, and involves trust and faith in something, in the future. Me putting myself out there is going to lead to something good.” — @left_pad [0:05:50] “I feel being more intentional, specifically reaching out to people, or getting involved in certain communities is probably better. There are formal versions of this, like Google Summer of Code. We've done that and Rails Girls, Summer of Code, stuff like that. Yeah, maybe we need more of that, instead of this blanket like, ‘Hey, anyone can get involved.’” — @left_pad [0:07:48] “For a tool, we want self-expression from the people that use it and I think coding is – or anything, [Illich] mentions education, and school, and medicine, and coding could be another thing where it's increasingly harder to learn how to code, even though now we have boot camps and stuff.” — @left_pad [0:17:46] Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Henry Zhu on Twitter Henry Zhu on GitHub Henry Zhu Hope in Source Podcast Maintainers Anonymous Podcast Babel Google Summer of Code Rails Girls Vue Vixens Working in Public Kim’s Convenience on Netflix Race After Technology Tools for Conviviality Journey Conquer Your Critical Inner Voice Enjoy the Vue on Twitter Enjoy the Vue Special Guest: Henry Zhu.Support Enjoy the Vue


19 Oct 2020

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Episode 37: Community is Everything: Open Source with Henry Zhu (Part 2)

Enjoy the Vue

In the previous episode, we discussed open source with Henry Zhu, core maintainer of the community-funded compiler, Babel. We closed on the responsibilities of an open source maintainer and, in this show, we are continuing our discussion with Henry, starting with what responsibilities do open source maintainers have in terms of shaping the future of the projects that they maintain? Henry also shares his views on governance structures, burnout, focusing on new ideas and making time for side projects, as well as accountability versus ability, the individual versus the group, and free will versus obligation. Tune in today! Key Points From This Episode: Henry opens with the incentive to make things more complicated, instead of simplifying them. Henry’s goal is to help people understand that they have an impact on the language they use. There are different governance structures in open source – boundaries are necessary. Cycles of burnout and why developers feel a sense of obligation to open source projects. From individual contributor to a maintainer role – some things that Henry found useful. What will change the way we do programming is different ideas, not the same ones. Henry is giving himself the freedom to think differently and pay attention to side projects. Balancing accountability and ability – Henry believes he should have freedom of choice, but he also needs to consider external opinion. The individual versus the group – how to distinguish people with distinct views and stories. The different types of maintenance work in open source and why roles are helpful. Just say no – Henry describes the struggle for maintainers and the dichotomy between free will and obligation. Tweetables: “Culturally, everyone wants to make their project viral, but then after that happens, it just becomes a burden. I don't want to discourage people from doing open source. Be more real about what the reality is of what you will feel when it happens.” — @left_pad [0:05:50] “The things that are actually going to change how we're going to do programming is something different, not the same thing.” — @left_pad [0:11:30] “In open source, maybe we have this good and bad, the whole meritocracy thing, and the whole code is what matters, so why do you care about the person behind it? I think that's good in the sense of it doesn't emphasize people and it shows that it's a group effort. The bad thing in some sense, in terms of funding, would be that the more you make it about the group, the more it feels like no one knows who you are.” — @left_pad [0:17:23] “The currency of open source is not the code, because you can reproduce that and consume that as much as possible, and doesn't affect maintainers. The thing that you're affecting is their attention and their time. The more people that consume open source, it might mean more people making issues and consuming more time, but it doesn't mean that those maintainers have to do it.” — @left_pad [0:23:46] Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Henry Zhu on Twitter Henry Zhu on GitHub Henry Zhu Hope in Source Podcast Maintainers Anonymous Podcast Babel Enjoy the Vue on Twitter Enjoy the Vue Special Guest: Henry Zhu.Support Enjoy the Vue


12 Oct 2020

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Episode 36: Community is Everything: Open Source with Henry Zhu (Part 1)

Enjoy the Vue

Open source software has received both criticism and applause from the tech community all across the world. Today, we’re talking about open source with Henry Zhu, a New York City-based maintainer of the community-funded compiler, Babel. Previously at Adobe, he’s also a host of two podcasts that discuss the lives of maintainers, Hope in Source and Maintainers Anonymous. In this episode, Henry shares some the similarities between his faith and open source, and explains some of the assumptions people have about open source software, why we need to take a step back and reevaluate these assumptions, and why he believes we should be thinking about how to minimize options and make things simpler. After all, open source is about more than just the code. Tune in to find out more! Key Points From This Episode: Henry introduces himself, what he does, and his podcast, Hope in Source. Henry shares a bit more about his podcast and his conversations with Nadia Eghbal. The differences and similarities Henry sees between faith and open source. From code style checker in open source to core maintainer at Babel – the ideas are similar. We need to step back and reevaluate some of the assumptions we have about open source. Henry talks a bit about his co-host Nadia Eghbal’s new book, Working in Public. How to address the issue of over-participation – Henry thinks multiple solutions are needed. Maintaining both public and private personas – Henry says it’s better to have actual dialogue. Communicating in open source, membership, and assumptions about open source projects. Raising funding for open source projects using crowdfunding platforms like Kickstarter. Henry believes we should be thinking about how to remove options and make things simpler. Open source is not just about code, it's about other things too.Support Enjoy the Vue


5 Oct 2020

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Episode 34: Staying Hum-Babel with Henry Zhu


Sponsored By: Panelists Pia Mancini | Justin Dorfman | Eric Berry | Richard Littauer Guest Henry Zhu Babel Show Notes [00:01:30] Henry explains how he got involved in Babel and how it’s funded. [00:03:18] Eric wonders if Henry wishes he could just step away and just cut ties with it and go do something completely different and how tight is he with this project. He gives a great answer to this! [00:04:39] Pia was wondering if Henry’s relationship with the project itself or his view with Babel changed since he started working full time there. In the beginning, Henry started this as a side job while he worked at Adobe. [00:08:06] Since a lot of maintainers may get to a point in their lives where the issues stack up, but not putting into perspective how big this project is, Justin asks Henry how he deals with this since this is such a huge project and he explains. [00:011:18] Justin wonders how Henry deals with Devs that are coming in and just saying, “Fix it, now,” and hit and run issues. [00:13:06] Henry talks about how as maintainers view each other as extremes. He brings up the quote from “The Dark Knight” as a reference to what he talks about. [00:15:10] Henry mentioned earlier about how Open Source communities could look at faith communities, religion, or church communities. Pia wonders if he has anything in mind from his experience that he wants to share, which he does. [00:20:14] Justin makes a right turn and wants Henry to go into his involvement with TC39 and how it helps him, Babel, and the sustainability with the JavaScript language as a whole. Also, he talks about what he’s accomplished since he joined. [00:24:57] Justin asks Henry about travel expenses and if anyone pays for them. [00:26:42] Pia brings up some good points about how we can learn how to heal and support ourselves during these troubling times. She wonders if Henry knows any ways that the community is supporting each other and where can we best spend our time and energy helping the members of our community going through what we’re all going through now. Spotlight [00:34:56] Richard’s spotlight is “Hope in Source” podcast. [00:35:03] Justin’s spotlight is openfoodnetwork.org. [00:35:38] Pia’s spotlight is mutualaid.nyc. [00:36:07] Richard has another spotlight which is Gary Snyder’s poetry. [00:36:50] Henry’s spotlight is his favorite gospel, which is Mark. Quotes [00:14:04] “You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become a villain.” Links Henry Zhu’s Twitter Henry’s Zoo “Hope In Source” podcast Babel Maintainers Anonymous TC39 Open Food Network Mutual Aid NYC Gary Snyder Credits Produced by Justin Dorfman at CodeFund Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound Ad Sales by Eric Berry at CodeFund Special Guest: Henry Zhu.Support Sustain


1 May 2020

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Breaking into Bay Street | A Conversation with Henry Zhu

Beyond the Degree

Henry shares with us how he managed to maintain balance as a driven business student with high aspirations, how it affected his perspective towards and beyond a degree, and how it helped him end up as an investment banker at Lazard.


1 Mar 2020

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Henry Zhu Chats With Kent About The Responsibilities Of A Maintainer

Chats with Kent C. Dodds

Henry Zhu's transition from a programing role to a more managerial role as Babel's maintainer has been hard. As programmers, we tend to value our work based on the number of commits or pushing features. When you are a manager, you're not writing much code anymore.There's still an expectation that maintainers should be writing code. Still, maintainers also have to triage and merge things, release process, onboard, market, write documentation, test, make videos, and give talks. Because of all this, a maintainer's time is best spent figuring out how to get more people involved with a project.To get people interested, the maintainer has to do the job of showing people what's possible. You have to be involved in the community, and you have to like it. At a fundamental level, open-source is about service, serving other people in the community, giving back, and not expecting anything in return.HomeworkWithout writing code, do one thing to contribute to open source!ResourcesAll ContributorsSourceMaintainers AnonymousChesterton's fenceGuest: Henry ZhuTwitter: @left_padGitHub: @hzooHost: Kent C. DoddsWebsite: kentcdodds.comTwitter: @kentcdoddsGitHub: @kentcdoddsYouTube: Kent C. DoddsEpic React: epicreact.dev


27 Nov 2019