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Today we forge ahead with part 2 of Matthew’s interview with Kundalini Yoga scholar Philip Deslippe and journalist Stacie Stukin on the tragic past, chaotic present, and future relevance of the cult of Yogi Bhajan. Matthew looks at Guru Jagat’s (Katie Griggs’s) pseudo-Tibetan mystical poem dedicated to her ex-con mentor, Harijiwan (Stephen Hartzell), whose current wife, Mandev, is about 30 years his junior and makes RA MA propaganda films. Will RA MA survive lockdown with COVID-busting mantras? Will Yogi Bhajan’s crimes be washed away by the ringing of the RA MA gong?We know by now that cults never let a good crisis go to waste. We’ll also examine how, when there are no global panics for cults to monetize, it’s up to the leader to create one. With RA MA we see the cycle go intergenerational as it cultjacks Yogi Bhajan’s legacy of fantasy and paranoia.For the Ticker this week, Derek and Julian review Bill Maher’s platforming of Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying as they trot out vax-doubt and the Wuhan lab conspiracy. Julian will cover breaking vaccine news — especially on Phase III data! — to keep you inoculated against your alt-wellness news feed.Show NotesA Campus Argument Goes Viral. Now the College Is Under SiegeThe Campus Mob Came for Me—and You, Professor, Could Be NextDecoding Bret and Eric Weinstein via Decoding the GurusModerna vaccine complications are rareAstrazeneca Phase III looks goodPfizer and BioNtech Phase III resultsAdenoviral vectorsNYT on AstrozenecaCDC Vaccine contrast/compareThe Pfizer recipeAP on the “lab release” theoryFauci dunks on Trump’s lab release babble-- -- --Support us on PatreonPre-order Conspirituality: How New Age Conspiracy Theories Became a Health Threat: America | Canada Follow us on Instagram | Twitter: Derek | Matthew | JulianOriginal music by EarthRise SoundSystem Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we forge ahead with part 2 of Matthew’s interview with Kundalini Yoga scholar Philip Deslippe and journalist Stacie Stukin on the tragic past, chaotic present, and future relevance of the cult of Yogi Bhajan. Matthew looks at Guru Jagat’s (Katie Griggs’s) pseudo-Tibetan mystical poem dedicated to her ex-con mentor, Harijiwan (Stephen Hartzell), whose current wife, Mandev, is about 30 years his junior and makes RA MA propaganda films. Will RA MA survive lockdown with COVID-busting mantras? Will Yogi Bhajan’s crimes be washed away by the ringing of the RA MA gong? We know by now that cults never let a good crisis go to waste. We’ll also examine how, when there are no global panics for cults to monetize, it’s up to the leader to create one. With RA MA we see the cycle go intergenerational as it cultjacks Yogi Bhajan’s legacy of fantasy and paranoia. For the Ticker this week, Derek and Julian review Bill Maher’s platforming of Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying as they trot out vax-doubt and the Wuhan lab conspiracy. Julian will cover breaking vaccine news — especially on Phase III data! — to keep you inoculated against your alt-wellness news feed. Show Notes A Campus Argument Goes Viral. Now the College Is <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/us/evergreen-state-protests.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Under Siege</a> The Campus Mob <a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-campus-mob-came-for-meand-you-professor-could-be-next-1496187482" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Came for Me</a>—and You, Professor, Could Be Next Decoding Bret and Eric Weinstein via <a href="https://decoding-the-gurus.captivate.fm/episode/eric-and-bret-weinstein-a-dark-horse-gallops-through-the-portal" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Decoding the Gurus</a> Moderna vaccine complications are <a href="https://www.contagionlive.com/view/moderna-vaccine-study-data-shows-94-1-efficacy-serious-side-effects-rare" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">rare</a> Astrazeneca Phase III looks <a href="https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-releases/2020/azd1222-oxford-phase-iii-trials-interim-analysis-results-published-in-the-lancet.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">good</a> Pfizer and BioNtech Phase III <a href="https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-publication-results-landmark" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">results</a> <a href="https://cen.acs.org/pharmaceuticals/vaccines/Adenoviral-vectors-new-COVID-19/98/i19" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Adenoviral</a> vectors NYT on <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Astrozeneca</a>CDC Vaccine <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">contrast/compare</a>The Pfizer <a href="https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/12/09/1013538/what-are-the-ingredients-of-pfizers-covid-19-vaccine/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">recipe</a> AP on the “lab release” <a href="https://apnews.com/article/9391149002" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">theory</a> Fauci <a href="https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article242513611.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dunks</a> on Trump’s lab release babble <a href="https://www.cnet.com/features/the-lab-leak-theory-and-the-twisted-messy-hunt-for-covid-19s-origin/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a>-- -- -- <a href="https://www.patreon.com/conspirituality" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Support us on Patreon</a> Pre-order Conspirituality: How New Age Conspiracy Theories Became a Health Threat: <a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/derek-beres-matthew-remski-julian-walker/conspirituality/9781541702981/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">America</a> | <a href="https://www.amazon.ca/Conspirituality-Conspiracy-Theories-Became-Public/dp/1039005535/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1671042345&amp;refinements=p_27%3AMatthew+Remski&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Canada</a> Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/conspiripod/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a> | Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/derekberes" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Derek</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/matthewremski" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Matthew</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/JulianMWalker" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Julian</a> Original music by <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/5UeZCWSQYhQZwLM4tZxyrf?si=eOol5AckQli7rJgG-3I5tg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">EarthRise SoundSystem</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

37: Guru Jagat Cultjacks Kundalini Yoga (w/Philip Deslippe & Stacie Stukin)

What happens when a charismatic yogalebrity rises to prominence in LA’s fashion and wellness scene, gets exposed as an inheritor of a notorious cult, and then gets sideswiped by a pandemic? Meet Katie Griggs, aka “Guru Jagat,” who, instead of reassessing her channelled “downloads” from the charlatan rapist Yogi Bhajan and lending a hand to public health, has chosen to boost her online game with COVID contrarianism and by platforming David Icke.Our guests this week are Philip Deslippe and journalist Stacie Stukin. Philip’s penetrating and bulletproof research into the dodgy history of Kundalini Yoga and its criminal founder Yogi Bhajan shook the modern yoga world in 2012. Stacie’s 2020 LA Magazine feature investigation into Kundalini corruption and abuse gathered decades of buried evidence. Together they paint a lucid, non-sensationalized picture of how a high-demand religious group navigates new opportunities for manipulation.The larger picture is that COVID has been a challenge for the brick-and-mortar assets of cults, which, like every other business, rely on pedestrian traffic and the “retail space” of ritual conversion. But in other ways, COVID is the best thing that could have happened to cults. Kundalini Yoga was built on promising perfect health, the conversion of fear into love, and a golden age free from atheistic biotech. For people like Griggs—and her ex-con mentor Harijiwan—COVID is an opportunity to hide dirty laundry and market the same empty promises with heightened panic and passion.Show Notes“From Maharaj to Mahan Tantric: The Construction of Yogi Bhajan’s Kundalini Yoga” for Sikh Formations by Philip Deslippe (2012)“Yogi Bhajan Turned an L.A. Yoga Studio into a Juggernaut, and Left Two Generations of Followers Reeling from Alleged Abuse” by Stacie Stukin for Los Angeles Magazine (2020)“Yogi Bhajan, yoga guru and founder of 3HO, ‘more likely than not’ sexually abused followers, says report” by Philip Deslippe and Stacie Stukin for Religion News Service (2020)Text of Katherine Felt’s 1986 lawsuit against Bhajan for assault, battery, false imprisonment and moreText of Pamela Dyson’s 1986 lawsuit against Bhajan for assault, battery, false imprisonment and more“Wacko World of Yogi Bhajan” archived hereBe Scofield’s -- -- --Support us on PatreonPre-order Conspirituality: How New Age Conspiracy Theories Became a Health Threat: America | Canada Follow us on Instagram | Twitter: Derek | Matthew | JulianOriginal music by EarthRise SoundSystem Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What happens when a charismatic yogalebrity rises to prominence in LA’s fashion and wellness scene, gets exposed as an inheritor of a notorious cult, and then gets sideswiped by a pandemic? Meet Katie Griggs, aka “Guru Jagat,” who, instead of reassessing her channelled “downloads” from the charlatan rapist Yogi Bhajan and lending a hand to public health, has chosen to boost her online game with COVID contrarianism and by platforming David Icke. Our guests this week are Philip Deslippe and journalist Stacie Stukin. Philip’s penetrating and bulletproof research into the dodgy history of Kundalini Yoga and its criminal founder Yogi Bhajan shook the modern yoga world in 2012. Stacie’s 2020 LA Magazine feature investigation into Kundalini corruption and abuse gathered decades of buried evidence. Together they paint a lucid, non-sensationalized picture of how a high-demand religious group navigates new opportunities for manipulation. The larger picture is that COVID has been a challenge for the brick-and-mortar assets of cults, which, like every other business, rely on pedestrian traffic and the “retail space” of ritual conversion. But in other ways, COVID is the best thing that could have happened to cults. Kundalini Yoga was built on promising perfect health, the conversion of fear into love, and a golden age free from atheistic biotech. For people like Griggs—and her ex-con mentor Harijiwan—COVID is an opportunity to hide dirty laundry and market the same empty promises with heightened panic and passion. Show Notes “<a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271568190_From_Maharaj_to_Mahan_Tantric_The_Construction_of_Yogi_Bhajan's_Kundalini_Yoga/stats" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">From Maharaj to Mahan Tantric</a>: The Construction of Yogi Bhajan’s Kundalini Yoga” for Sikh Formations by Philip Deslippe (2012) “<a href="https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/yogi-bhajan/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Yogi Bhajan Turned an L.A. Yoga Studio into a Juggernaut</a>, and Left Two Generations of Followers Reeling from Alleged Abuse” by Stacie Stukin for Los Angeles Magazine (2020) “<a href="https://religionnews.com/2020/08/18/yogi-bhajan-yoga-guru-and-founder-of-3ho-more-likely-than-not-sexually-abused-followers-says-report/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Yogi Bhajan, yoga guru and founder of 3HO</a>, ‘more likely than not’ sexually abused followers, says report” by Philip Deslippe and Stacie Stukin for Religion News Service (2020) Text of Katherine Felt’s 1986 <a href="https://yogibhajan.tripod.com/id17.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lawsuit</a> against Bhajan for assault, battery, false imprisonment and more Text of Pamela Dyson’s 1986 <a href="https://yogibhajan.tripod.com/id16.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lawsuit</a> against Bhajan for assault, battery, false imprisonment and more “Wacko World of Yogi Bhajan” archived <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20200805102059/https://www.wackoworldofyogibhajan.net/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> Be Scofield’s <a href="https://gurumag.com/master-of-deceit-how-yogi-bhajan-used-kundalini-yoga-for-money-sex-and-power/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a>-- -- -- <a href="https://www.patreon.com/conspirituality" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Support us on Patreon</a> Pre-order Conspirituality: How New Age Conspiracy Theories Became a Health Threat: <a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/derek-beres-matthew-remski-julian-walker/conspirituality/9781541702981/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">America</a> | <a href="https://www.amazon.ca/Conspirituality-Conspiracy-Theories-Became-Public/dp/1039005535/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1671042345&amp;refinements=p_27%3AMatthew+Remski&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Canada</a> Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/conspiripod/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a> | Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/derekberes" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Derek</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/matthewremski" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Matthew</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/JulianMWalker" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Julian</a> Original music by <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/5UeZCWSQYhQZwLM4tZxyrf?si=eOol5AckQli7rJgG-3I5tg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">EarthRise SoundSystem</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

36: Guru Jagat’s Pandemic Brandwash (w/Philip Deslippe & Stacie Stukin)

Steffie Nelson

L.A.-based writer and editor Steffie Nelson recently edited the essay collection, Slouching Towards Los Angeles: Living and Writing by Joan Didion’s Light, published in February 2020 by Rare Bird Books. She also co-authored Judson: Innovation in Stained Glass, coming in March 2020 from Angel City Press. Throughout her career as a style and culture journalist, Steffie has contributed to The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, L.A. Review of Books, W Magazine and many others, bringing a curious mind and a refined eye to her subjects.Stacie Stukin is a journalist and essayist who was born and raised in Los Angeles. Her byline has appeared in the Los Angeles Times, The New York Times, W Magazine, and Architectural Digest. She is currently working on a novel.

L.A.-based writer and editor Steffie Nelson recently edited the essay collection, Slouching Towards Los Angeles: Living and Writing by Joan Didion’s Light, published in February 2020 by Rare Bird Books. She also co-authored Judson: Innovation in Stained Glass, coming in March 2020 from Angel City Press. Throughout her career as a style and culture journalist, Steffie has contributed to The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, L.A. Review of Books, W Magazine and many others, bringing a curious mind and a refined eye to her subjects. Stacie Stukin is a journalist and essayist who was born and raised in Los Angeles. Her byline has appeared in the Los Angeles Times, The New York Times, W Magazine, and Architectural Digest. She is currently working on a novel.

In Conversation... Steffie Nelson And Stacie Stukin