Alain Naude's guest appearances

Alain Naude

Urgency of Change • The Krishnamurti Podcast

Iris Murdoch

Christopher Titmuss

Huston Smith

Keith Berwick

Oliver Hunkin

David Shainberg

Bernard Levin

Mary Zimbalist

Jacob Needleman

Alain Naudé

Terence Stamp

Fred Hall

Ronald Eyre

Chogyam Trungpa

Ingram Smith

OwlTail

Alain Naude was Krishnamurti’s private secretary in the 1960s. He met Krishnamurti in 1963 whilst a music lecturer at Pretoria University and a professional concert pianist. He gave up his teaching and performing in 1964 to work with Krishnamurti. Fluent in several languages, he was very helpful at international gatherings and in attracting younger audiences to Krishnamurti’s talks at a time of cultural change in the West. This fourth conversation between Naude and Krishnamurti was recorded in January 1972. Naude begins by asking about masters. ‘One finds in various teachings the idea of masters, conscious entities who work for the good of mankind. Is there a reservoir of wisdom? Do such entities exist, or does man want to have myths?’ Krishnamurti responds that there is a reservoir of goodness and a reservoir of violence and asks whether there something which is not these two, that is beyond these two? Is your mind capable of not being held in the reservoirs of goodness or violence? When you understand these two opposites and go beyond them, meditation is not in terms of vision or action, but the state of silence which is then operating, an energy which then flows. That energy has no character. When one asks, ‘Is there a hierarchy, a master, a group of evolved entities?’ you are asking from a point of view, or from desire, from hope. What is the relationship between the current of vulgarity and that which is beyond and above the opposites? Find us online at kfoundation.org and on social media as Krishnamurti Foundation Trust

Alain Naude was Krishnamurti’s private secretary in the 1960s. He met Krishnamurti in 1963 whilst a music lecturer at Pretoria University and a professional concert pianist. He gave up his teaching and performing in 1964 to work with Krishnamurti. Fluent in several languages, he was very helpful at international gatherings and in attracting younger audiences to Krishnamurti’s talks at a time of cultural change in the West. This fourth conversation between Naude and Krishnamurti was recorded in January 1972. Naude begins by asking about masters. ‘One finds in various teachings the idea of masters, conscious entities who work for the good of mankind. Is there a reservoir of wisdom? Do such entities exist, or does man want to have myths?’ Krishnamurti responds that there is a reservoir of goodness and a reservoir of violence and asks whether there something which is not these two, that is beyond these two? Is your mind capable of not being held in the reservoirs of goodness or violence? When you understand these two opposites and go beyond them, meditation is not in terms of vision or action, but the state of silence which is then operating, an energy which then flows. That energy has no character. When one asks, ‘Is there a hierarchy, a master, a group of evolved entities?’ you are asking from a point of view, or from desire, from hope. What is the relationship between the current of vulgarity and that which is beyond and above the opposites? Find us online at <a href="http://kfoundation.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kfoundation.org</a> and on social media as Krishnamurti Foundation Trust

Conversation with Alain Naude – Masters and hierarchy

Alain Naude was Krishnamurti’s private secretary in the 1960s. He met Krishnamurti in 1963 whilst a music lecturer at Pretoria University and a professional concert pianist. He gave up his teaching and performing in 1964 to work with Krishnamurti. Fluent in several languages, he was very helpful at international gatherings and in attracting younger audiences to Krishnamurti’s talks at a time of cultural change in the West. This conversation with Krishnamurti was recorded in Malibu, California in 1972 and begins by asking whether there is a permanent ‘me’? Unless I am free from the vulgar, I will continue representing the whole vulgarity of humanity. I lead the usual life, along the small river, following that current. I am that current and ‘the me’ is bound to continue in that stream, with millions of others. I am not different from those millions of others. When you say, ‘My brother is dead,’ and ask whether he is still living, as a separate consciousness, I question whether he was ever separate from the stream. If there was a permanent self, it would be of this stream. Realising that I am like the rest of the world, that there is no ‘me’ separate, I can incarnate only if I step out of the stream. Change takes place away from the stream; in the stream there is no change. What happens if you step out of the stream? The stepping out is the incarnation. When one steps out of the stream, one has compassion. Find us online at kfoundation.org and on social media as Krishnamurti Foundation Trust

Alain Naude was Krishnamurti’s private secretary in the 1960s. He met Krishnamurti in 1963 whilst a music lecturer at Pretoria University and a professional concert pianist. He gave up his teaching and performing in 1964 to work with Krishnamurti. Fluent in several languages, he was very helpful at international gatherings and in attracting younger audiences to Krishnamurti’s talks at a time of cultural change in the West. This conversation with Krishnamurti was recorded in Malibu, California in 1972 and begins by asking whether there is a permanent ‘me’? Unless I am free from the vulgar, I will continue representing the whole vulgarity of humanity. I lead the usual life, along the small river, following that current. I am that current and ‘the me’ is bound to continue in that stream, with millions of others. I am not different from those millions of others. When you say, ‘My brother is dead,’ and ask whether he is still living, as a separate consciousness, I question whether he was ever separate from the stream. If there was a permanent self, it would be of this stream. Realising that I am like the rest of the world, that there is no ‘me’ separate, I can incarnate only if I step out of the stream. Change takes place away from the stream; in the stream there is no change. What happens if you step out of the stream? The stepping out is the incarnation. When one steps out of the stream, one has compassion. Find us online at <a href="http://kfoundation.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">kfoundation.org</a> and on social media as Krishnamurti Foundation Trust

Conversation with Alain Naude – Is there a permanent ego?