Kate Zen's guest appearances

Kate Zen

Thot Leader

The Fire These Times

Justin Lehmiller

Musa Okwonga

Cindy Gallop

Peter Pomerantsev

Bryony Cole

Rachel Rabbit White

Christopher Wong

Eliot Higgins

Arab Diaspora

Molly Crabapple

Albert King

Anand Gopal

Matt Dagher-Margosian

Andrew Dana

Norma Buster

OwlTail

Hey everyone, I don't usually do this but in light of recent events friends suggested that I republish this episode from July 2020. If you haven't heard, last night eight workers in massage parlors were murdered in Atlanta in the Southern region of the United States. Six of these workers were Asian-Americans. In response to the massacre, Red Canary Song, a US-based grassroots Asian sex workers coalition, tweeted: "These deaths somehow mean more because of the rise in anti-Asian violence related to COVID-19, but no mention of how they’re connected to the long policing of Asian sex work, which so many Asian Americans and those speaking up against anti-Asian hate endorse." As it happens, in July of 2020 I had interviewed Kate Zen, one of the organisers with Red Canary Song, which also organises transnationally with Asian sex workers across the diaspora in Toronto, Paris, and Hong Kong. In whatever capacity I can, I stand in solidarity with sex worker/massage parlour workers and activists everywhere in the world and my thoughts go to those who lost their lives to this hate crime. Before sharing this episode, I wanted to read out a declaration of support that is being passed around. You can find it in the description of this episode. You will also find links to donate in the description and on the Twitter account @FireTheseTimes The Declaration of Support: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSftvwRE2LEsfL24fvtygAHdqN8qHSjcImOhu_AINt6cmtstQw/viewform?fbzx=-6123717124999218342

Hey everyone, I don't usually do this but in light of recent events friends suggested that I republish this episode from July 2020. If you haven't heard, last night eight workers in massage parlors were murdered in Atlanta in the Southern region of the United States. Six of these workers were Asian-Americans. In response to the massacre, <a href="https://twitter.com/RedCanarySong/status/1372062775590195201" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Red Canary Song, </a>a US-based grassroots Asian sex workers coalition,<a href="https://twitter.com/RedCanarySong/status/1372062775590195201" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> tweeted</a>: "These deaths somehow mean more because of the rise in anti-Asian violence related to COVID-19, but no mention of how they’re connected to the long policing of Asian sex work, which so many Asian Americans and those speaking up against anti-Asian hate endorse." As it happens, in July of 2020 I had interviewed <a href="https://twitter.com/katezenlove" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kate Zen</a>, one of the organisers with<a href="https://www.redcanarysong.net/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Red Canary Song</a>, which also organises transnationally with Asian sex workers across the diaspora in Toronto, Paris, and Hong Kong. In whatever capacity I can, I stand in solidarity with sex worker/massage parlour workers and activists everywhere in the world and my thoughts go to those who lost their lives to this hate crime. Before sharing this episode, I wanted to read out a declaration of support that is being passed around. You can find it in the description of this episode. You will also find links to donate in the description and on the Twitter account @<a href="https://twitter.com/FireTheseTimes" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">FireTheseTimes</a> The Declaration of Support: <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSftvwRE2LEsfL24fvtygAHdqN8qHSjcImOhu_AINt6cmtstQw/viewform?fbzx=-6123717124999218342" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSftvwRE2LEsfL24fvtygAHdqN8qHSjcImOhu_AINt6cmtstQw/viewform?fbzx=-6123717124999218342</a>

#StopAsianHate [Repost] Sex Workers' Rights, Basebuilding and Mutual Aid (with Kate Zen)

This is a conversation with Kate Zen. She’s an organiser with Red Canary Song,  a US-based grassroots Asian sex workers coalition. They also organise transnationally with Asian sex workers across the diaspora in Toronto, Paris, and Hong Kong. “There are over 9000 workplaces like these across the country with no  political representation, or access to labor rights or collective  organizing. Anti-trafficking NGO’s that claim to speak for migrants in  sex trades promote increased policing and immigration control, which  harms rather than helps migrant sex workers.” You can follow the podcast on Twitter @FireTheseTimes. If you like what I do, please consider supporting this project with only 1$ a month on Patreon or on BuyMeACoffee.com. You can also do so directly on PayPal if you prefer. Patreon is for monthly, PayPal is for one-offs and BuyMeACoffee has both options. If you cannot donate you can still help by reviewing this podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The Fire These Times is available on Apple Podcasts, Anchor, Breaker, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, Radio Public, Spotify, Pocket Casts, Castro and RSS. If it is not available wherever you get your podcasts, please drop me a message! Music by Tarabeat.

This is a conversation with <a href="https://twitter.com/katezenlove" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kate Zen</a>. She’s an organiser with <a href="https://www.redcanarysong.net/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Red Canary Song</a>,  a US-based grassroots Asian sex workers coalition. They also organise transnationally with Asian sex workers across the diaspora in Toronto, Paris, and Hong Kong. “There are over 9000 workplaces like these across the country with no  political representation, or access to labor rights or collective  organizing. Anti-trafficking NGO’s that claim to speak for migrants in  sex trades promote increased policing and immigration control, which  harms rather than helps migrant sex workers.” You can follow the podcast on Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/FireTheseTimes" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@FireTheseTimes</a>. If you like what I do, please consider supporting this project with <a href="https://www.patreon.com/firethesetimes" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">only 1$ a month on Patreon</a> or on <a href="https://www.buymeacoffee.com/joeyayoub" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">BuyMeACoffee.com</a>. You can also do so directly <a href="http://paypal.me/ibnbaldwin" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">on PayPal</a> if you prefer. Patreon is for monthly, PayPal is for one-offs and BuyMeACoffee has both options. If you cannot donate you can still help by reviewing this podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The Fire These Times is available on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/lb/podcast/the-fire-these-times/id1503094935" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://anchor.fm/thefirethesetimes" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Anchor</a>, <a href="https://www.breaker.audio/the-fire-these-times" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Breaker</a>, <a href="https://www.google.com/podcasts?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy8xNjNkODM3NC9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw==" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/the-fire-these-times" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Stitcher</a>, <a href="https://radiopublic.com/the-fire-these-times-6pzEba" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Radio Public</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0JKWi5ywTHmnVJA2l8Xt1A" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a href="https://pca.st/re8syyb4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Pocket Casts</a>, <a href="https://castro.fm/podcast/44d5e44f-8997-4704-828e-bb78a9cc0cae" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Castro</a> and <a href="https://anchor.fm/s/163d8374/podcast/rss" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">RSS</a>. If it is not available wherever you get your podcasts, <a href="https://thefirethisti.me/contact/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">please drop me a message!</a> Music by <a href="https://soundcloud.com/tarabeat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tarabeat</a>.

 39/Basebuilding, Sex Workers’ Rights and Mutual Aid (with Kate Zen)

SXNoir and organizer Kate Zen discuss labor organizing for sex workers,FOSTA-SESTA, the future of sex tech and machine automation and big tech companies like clearview and the future of AI and surveillance of sex workers. Then SX brings comedian Jacq the Stripper and poet RachelRabbitWhite to the table to talk about their own experiences as artists in the sex work community, forced retirement and dealing with community discourse in digital space Food for Thot Kate Zen   @redcanarysong @STOPSpyingNY Deep Thots Jacq Frances @JacqTheStripper strippersforever.com Rachel Rabbit White RRW  @rabbitwhite Porn Carnival available where books are sold Unboundbabes.com 10% off with code “thot leader” Episode sponsored by DameProducts.com This episode was directed by Erin Mckeon, and our theme music is composed by Valley Latini, Thot Leader pod is hosted and produced by me, SXNoir. Shout out to  Ethel’s club for hosting us. Make sure you rate, review and share with a fellow thot leader. For more details about our guest and their work, check out our links in the description. For updates sign up for the newsletter at SxNoir.com and follow @sxnoir on social media.    As always, be thotful.

SXNoir and organizer Kate Zen discuss labor organizing for sex workers,FOSTA-SESTA, the future of sex tech and machine automation and big tech companies like clearview and the future of AI and surveillance of sex workers. Then SX brings comedian Jacq the Stripper and poet RachelRabbitWhite to the table to talk about their own experiences as artists in the sex work community, forced retirement and dealing with community discourse in digital space Food for Thot Kate Zen   <a href="https://twitter.com/RedCanarySong" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@redcanarysong</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/stopspyingny" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@STOPSpyingNY</a> Deep Thots Jacq Frances <a href="https://twitter.com/JacqTheStripper" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@JacqTheStripper</a> <a href="http://strippersforever.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">strippersforever.com</a> Rachel Rabbit White RRW <a href="https://twitter.com/rabbitwhite" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> @rabbitwhite</a> Porn Carnival available where books are sold <a href="https://unboundbabes.com/collections/shop-all" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Unboundbabes.com</a> 10% off with code “thot leader” Episode sponsored by <a href="https://www.dameproducts.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">DameProducts.com</a> This episode was directed by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ur_girl_friday_/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Erin Mckeon</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/gabalexa/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">,</a> and our theme music is composed by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/baddielatini/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Valley Latini</a>, Thot Leader pod is hosted and produced by me, SXNoir. Shout out to  <a href="https://www.ethelsclub.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ethel’s club</a> for hosting us. Make sure you rate, review and share with a fellow thot leader. For more details about our guest and their work, check out our links in the description. For updates sign up for the newsletter at <a href="../../../content/sxnoir.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">SxNoir.com</a> and follow <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sxnoir/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@sxnoir</a> on social media.  As always, be thotful.