Josh Lilien's guest appearances

Josh Lilien

Nat Chat

Thomas Frank

Robert Greene

Isaac Morehouse

Charlie Hoehn

Nassim Taleb

Taylor Pearson

William Deresiewicz

Blake Boles

Justin Mares

Aaron Watson

Lucas Miller

Chris Chaney

Sebastian Marshall

Scott Britton

Chris Sparks

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“Study something where you approach problems in different and interesting ways.” - Josh Lilien In this episode of Nat Chat, I’m joined by Josh Lilien. Josh reached out to me after I started the podcast, sharing a few ideas of his own for how students can hack college, work on their own projects, and learn outside the classroom. After a few emails, I heard more about his story and wanted to bring him on the show. We covered a lot in this episode, including:  Self-educating yourself when traditional education isn’t useful How to land an apprenticeship to obtain necessary skills Minimizing the time you spend in class to devote to other projects Harnessing the pressure of needing a good GPA to pursue difficult subjects Book recommendations from Josh to others interested in similar work  Please enjoy, and reach out to Josh on Twitter! Find Josh Online:  Twitter LinkedIn  Mentioned in the show:  CEGEP Founder Fuel Real Ventures Hubspot  Nat Chat Episode with Adil How To Grow Blog Traffic From 0 to 10k Visitors Buffer Hootsuite Marketo Mailchimp Zapier The Next 36 MTL Blog  Books mentioned:   Traction (Nat’s Notes)  Contagious (Nat’s Notes)       Made to Stick (Nat’s Notes)  Founders at Work  Atlas Shrugged  Fountainhead  People mentioned:  Neil Patel Seth Godin Elon Musk  1:08 - Introduction to Josh and him detailing his education path. 8:26 - Josh explaining how he got started with marketing, how he learned the skills for his job and the resources that helped him out the most. 13:17 - Josh detailing the issues with marketing education and how he was mainly self-taught. 17:04 - Utilizing the pressure of needing a good GPA to assist you in learning more difficult subjects and how you can reverse engineer your exams to minimize your time spent in class. 24:29 - Josh on learning paid ad positioning and him discussing what he is currently working on. 30:38 - Josh discussing his parent’s feelings regarding him pursuing his startup and following a non-traditional career path. 35:15 - Some books that were crucial for Josh’s success. 37:11 - Josh speaking on his positive experience with networking and his advice for others looking to pursue similar types of work. 40:00 - Wrap up and where to find Josh online. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe at https://nateliason.com/podcast

“Study something where you approach problems in different and interesting ways.” - Josh Lilien In this episode of <a href="https://www.nateliason.com/podcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nat Chat</a>, I’m joined by Josh Lilien. Josh reached out to me after I started the podcast, sharing a few ideas of his own for how students can hack college, work on their own projects, and learn outside the classroom. After a few emails, I heard more about his story and wanted to bring him on the show. We covered a lot in this episode, including: <ul> <li>Self-educating yourself when traditional education isn’t useful</li> <li>How to land an apprenticeship to obtain necessary skills</li> <li>Minimizing the time you spend in class to devote to other projects</li> <li>Harnessing the pressure of needing a good GPA to pursue difficult subjects</li> <li>Book recommendations from Josh to others interested in similar work</li> </ul> Please enjoy, and reach out to <a href="https://twitter.com/joshlilien?lang=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Josh on Twitter</a>! Find Josh Online: <ul> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/joshlilien?lang=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshlilien/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li> </ul> Mentioned in the show: <ul> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEGEP" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CEGEP</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/FounderFuel/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Founder Fuel</a></li> <li><a href="http://realventures.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Real Ventures</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.hubspot.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hubspot</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.nateliason.com/learning-anything-adil-majid/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Nat Chat Episode with Adil</a></li> <li><a href="https://sumo.com/stories/0-10k-nat-eliason" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">How To Grow Blog Traffic From 0 to 10k Visitors</a></li> <li><a href="https://buffer.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Buffer</a></li> <li><a href="https://hootsuite.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hootsuite</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.marketo.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Marketo</a></li> <li><a href="https://mailchimp.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Mailchimp</a></li> <li><a href="https://zapier.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Zapier</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.nextcanada.com/next-36" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Next 36</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.mtlblog.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">MTL Blog</a></li> </ul> Books mentioned: <ul> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Traction-Startup-Achieve-Explosive-Customer/dp/1591848369/?tag=natsite-20" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Traction</a> (<a href="https://www.nateliason.com/lessons/traction-gabriel-weinberg-justin-mares/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nat’s Notes</a>)</li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Contagious-Things-Catch-Jonah-Berger/dp/1451686587/?tag=natsite-20" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Contagious</a> (<a href="https://www.nateliason.com/lessons/contagious-jonah-berger/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nat’s Notes</a>)     </li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Made-Stick-Ideas-Survive-Others/dp/1400064287/?tag=natsite-20" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Made to Stick</a> (<a href="https://www.nateliason.com/lessons/made-stick-chip-dan-heath/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Nat’s Notes</a>)</li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Founders-Work-Stories-Startups-Early/dp/1430210788/?tag=natsite-20" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Founders at Work</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Atlas-Shrugged-Ayn-Rand/dp/0451191145/?tag=natsite-20" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Atlas Shrugged</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fountainhead-Ayn-Rand/dp/0451191153/?tag=natsite-20" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Fountainhead</a></li> </ul> People mentioned: <ul> <li><a href="http://neilpatel.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Neil Patel</a></li> <li><a href="http://www.sethgodin.com/sg/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Seth Godin</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Elon Musk</a></li> </ul> 1:08 - Introduction to Josh and him detailing his education path. 8:26 - Josh explaining how he got started with marketing, how he learned the skills for his job and the resources that helped him out the most. 13:17 - Josh detailing the issues with marketing education and how he was mainly self-taught. 17:04 - Utilizing the pressure of needing a good GPA to assist you in learning more difficult subjects and how you can reverse engineer your exams to minimize your time spent in class. 24:29 - Josh on learning paid ad positioning and him discussing what he is currently working on. 30:38 - Josh discussing his parent’s feelings regarding him pursuing his startup and following a non-traditional career path. 35:15 - Some books that were crucial for Josh’s success. 37:11 - Josh speaking on his positive experience with networking and his advice for others looking to pursue similar types of work. 40:00 - Wrap up and where to find Josh online. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe at <a href="https://nateliason.com/podcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://nateliason.com/podcast</a>

16: Sidestepping College to Pursue Your Interests with Josh Lilien