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Ethics attorney Jim Doppke returns to Technically Legal to talk legal ethics and technology. Jim is a former prosecutor for the Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission and is now in private practice with Robinson, Stewart, Montgomery and Doppke. Jim counsels attorneys and businesses on legal ethics issues and represents attorneys and attorney candidates in ARDC proceedings. Way back in 2017, Jim was our first guest and he talked about what was then a fairly recent change to Comment 8 to Model Rule of Professional Conduct 1.1 (a lawyer’s duty of competence). In response to changes in technology, the American Bar Association added language to MRPC 1.1 , Comment 8 stating attorneys must understand “the benefits and risks associated with relevant technology.”  (To date, more states than not require attorneys to be “technologically competent.”) We brought Jim back to talk about what has changed since he first appeared on the podcast because his original episode is still one of the most downloaded.  Jim says a few things have changed since the tweak to the Rule 1.1: More lawyers using artificial intelligence (AI), especially for contract review and litigation, more lawyers using tech in general (especially since COVID-19) and that there are now other legal ethics rules that touch on the use of technology (like MRPC 5.3 (Responsibilities Regarding Nonlawyer Assistance). Technically Legal is hosted by Chad Main, an attorney and the founder of Percipient, a tech-enabled alternative legal services provider.

Ethics attorney Jim Doppke returns to Technically Legal to talk legal ethics and technology. Jim is a former prosecutor for the <a href="https://www.iardc.org/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Illinois Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission</a> and is now in private practice with <a href="https://rsmdlaw.com/our-team/jim-doppke/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Robinson, Stewart, Montgomery and Doppke</a>. Jim counsels attorneys and businesses on legal ethics issues and represents attorneys and attorney candidates in ARDC proceedings. Way back in 2017, Jim was our <a href="https://tlpodcast.com/episode-1-jim-doppke-on-lawyers-duty-of-technology-competence/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">first guest</a> and he talked about what was then a fairly recent change to <a href="http://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/rule_1_1_competence/comment_on_rule_1_1.html" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Comment 8 to Model Rule of Professional Conduct 1.1</a> (a lawyer’s duty of competence). In response to changes in technology, the American Bar Association added language to MRPC 1.1 , Comment 8 stating attorneys must understand “the benefits and risks associated with relevant technology.”  (To date, <a href="https://percipient.co/lawyers-duty-of-technology-competence-by-state-infographic/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">more states than not require attorneys to be “technologically competent</a>.”) We brought Jim back to talk about what has changed since he first appeared on the podcast because his original episode is still one of the most downloaded.  Jim says a few things have changed since the tweak to the Rule 1.1: More lawyers using artificial intelligence (AI), especially for <a href="https://tlpodcast.com/episode-20-jerry-ting-on-legal-tech-looking-outside-of-legal-tech/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">contract review</a> and <a href="https://tlpodcast.com/episode-33-using-ai-in-litigation-thomas-suh-legalmation-co-founder/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">litigation</a>, more lawyers using <a href="https://percipient.co/legal-teams-working-remotely-what-technology-do-they-need/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">tech in general (especially since COVID-19)</a> and that there are now <a href="https://tlpodcast.com/episode-23-jim-doppke-on-the-ethics-of-legal-tech-and-the-duty-to-supervise-robots/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">other legal ethics rules that touch on the use of technology</a> (like MRPC 5.3 (<a href="https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/rule_5_3_responsibilities_regarding_nonlawyer_assistant/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Responsibilities Regarding Nonlawyer Assistance</a>). Technically Legal is hosted by Chad Main, an attorney and the founder of <a href="https://percipient.co/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Percipient</a>, a tech-enabled alternative legal services provider.

Lawyers Duty of Technology Competence (2020 Edition) With Jim Doppke

Legal ethics attorney Jim Doppke discusses the impact that legal tech and legal innovation have on the Rules of Professional Conduct and other rules that govern how lawyers practice law. Jim explains how Model Rules of Professional Conduct 1.1 (Lawyer’s Duty of Competence) and  5.3 (Responsibilities Regarding Nonlawyer Assistance) are implicated by advances in legal technology and legal innovation. A comment to Rule 1.1 (and adopted by most states) says that as part of a lawyer’s duty of competence, lawyers must stay abreast of changes in technology. Rule 5.3 states that lawyers must actively supervise “non-lawyer” assistance they engage to help out on legal matters. This is significant, because certain legal tech, like artificial intelligence (AI), is really non-lawyer “assistance.”  So, as Jim points out, if lawyers are going to use AI, they must supervise the training of the algorithms to ensure accuracy. In a similar vein, Jim points out that as the use of ALSPs (alternative legal service providers) increases, there too is another situation in which lawyers must supervise work done by those who may not be attorneys. In the legal tech founder segment, we talk to Jeffrey Eschbach, the founder of Page Vault. Page Vault software permits users to capture webpages and social media for use in legal matters. The captures are forensically sound, delivered in pdf format and include vital metadata strengthening evidentiary value.    Technically Legal is hosted by Chad Main, an attorney and the founder of Percipient, a tech-enabled alternative legal services provider.

Legal ethics attorney Jim Doppke discusses the impact that legal tech and legal innovation have on the Rules of Professional Conduct and other rules that govern how lawyers practice law. Jim explains how Model Rules of Professional Conduct 1.1 (<a href="https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/rule_1_1_competence/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Lawyer’s Duty of Competence</a>) and  5.3 (<a href="https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/rule_5_3_responsibilities_regarding_nonlawyer_assistant/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Responsibilities Regarding Nonlawyer Assistance</a>) are implicated by advances in legal technology and legal innovation. A comment to Rule 1.1 (<a href="https://percipient.co/lawyers-duty-of-technology-competence-by-state-infographic/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">and adopted by most states</a>) says that as part of a lawyer’s duty of competence, lawyers must stay abreast of changes in technology. Rule 5.3 states that lawyers must actively supervise “non-lawyer” assistance they engage to help out on legal matters. This is significant, because certain legal tech, like artificial intelligence (AI), is really non-lawyer “assistance.”  So, as Jim points out, if lawyers are going to use AI, they must supervise the training of the algorithms to ensure accuracy. In a similar vein, Jim points out that as the use of <a href="https://tlpodcast.com/episode-3-kent-zimmermann-alternative-legal-service-providers/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ALSPs (alternative legal service providers)</a> increases, there too is another situation in which lawyers must supervise work done by those who may not be attorneys. In the legal tech founder segment, we talk to Jeffrey Eschbach, the founder of <a href="https://www.page-vault.com/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Page Vault</a>. Page Vault software permits users to capture webpages and social media for use in legal matters. The captures are forensically sound, delivered in pdf format and include vital metadata strengthening evidentiary value.    Technically Legal is hosted by Chad Main, an attorney and the founder of Percipient, a tech-enabled <a href="https://percipient.co/services/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">alternative legal services provider</a>.

Episode 23: Jim Doppke on the Ethics of Legal Tech (and the Duty to Supervise Robots)

In our inaugural episode, legal ethics attorney Jim Doppke of Chicago's Robinson Law Group discusses changes to the Rules of Professional Conduct (ethics rules for lawyers) addressing the impact of technology on modern legal practice. In 2012 the American Bar Association amended Comment 8 to Model Rule of Professional Conduct 1.1 (a lawyer's duty of competence) in response to changes in technology. The Comment now suggests attorneys must understand "the benefits and risks associated with relevant technology.” To date, more than twenty-five states require attorneys to stay abreast of changes in technology relating to law practice. In this episode, Jim discusses the ethical obligations of attorneys to keep up with changes in legal technology and offers tips on how attorneys can begin to become for "technologically competent." Technically Legal is hosted by Chad Main, an attorney and the founder of Percipient, a tech-enabled alternative legal services provider.

In our inaugural episode, legal ethics attorney <a href="http://robinsonlawillinois.com/jim-doppke-2/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Jim Doppke of Chicago's Robinson Law Group</a> discusses changes to the Rules of Professional Conduct (ethics rules for lawyers) addressing the impact of technology on modern legal practice. In 2012 the American Bar Association amended <a href="http://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/rule_1_1_competence/comment_on_rule_1_1.html" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Comment 8 to Model Rule of Professional Conduct 1.1</a> (a lawyer's duty of competence) in response to changes in technology. The Comment now suggests attorneys must understand "the benefits and risks associated with relevant technology.” To date, <a href="https://percipient.co/lawyers-duty-of-technology-competence-by-state-infographic/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">more than twenty-five states require attorneys to stay abreast of changes in technology</a> relating to law practice. In this episode, Jim discusses the ethical obligations of attorneys to keep up with changes in legal technology and offers tips on how attorneys can begin to become for "technologically competent." Technically Legal is hosted by Chad Main, an attorney and the founder of Percipient, a tech-enabled <a href="https://percipient.co/services/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">alternative legal services provider</a>.