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Conventional wisdom tells us that we need regulators to ensure quality work in certain professions. But do consumers really benefit as much as they think from government regulation?In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen investigate the question: Who does regulation help more, consumers or producers?Later in the episode, Jonathan and Jules call in an expert: Maureen Ohlhausen, who chairs the Global Antitrust and Competition Law practice at Baker Botts.Submit your questions to the show here: https://bit.ly/AllElseEqualFind All Else Equal on the web: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/business-podcasts/all-else-equal-making-better-decisionsAll Else Equal: Making Better Decisions Podcast is a production of Stanford Graduate School of Business and is produced by University FM.Show Links:Regulation of Charlatans in High-Skill ProfessionsSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Conventional wisdom tells us that we need regulators to ensure quality work in certain professions. But do consumers really benefit as much as they think from government regulation?In this episode of All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions, hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen investigate the question: Who does regulation help more, consumers or producers?Later in the episode, Jonathan and Jules call in an expert: <a href="https://www.bakerbotts.com/people/o/ohlhausen-maureen" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Maureen Ohlhausen</a>, who chairs the Global Antitrust and Competition Law practice at Baker Botts. Submit your questions to the show here: <a href="https://bit.ly/AllElseEqual" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/AllElseEqual</a>Find All Else Equal on the web: <a href="https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/business-podcasts/all-else-equal-making-better-decisions" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/business-podcasts/all-else-equal-making-better-decisions</a> All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions Podcast is a production of Stanford Graduate School of Business and is produced by <a href="https://university.fm/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">University FM</a>. Show Links:<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jofi.13112" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Regulation of Charlatans in High-Skill Professions</a>See Privacy Policy at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy</a> and California Privacy Notice at <a href="https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info</a>.

Ep13 “Does Regulation Help or Hurt Consumers?” with Maureen Ohlhausen

In this episode Dave, Matt and Elmer were lucky to have a special guests to dig into a number of topics that digital marketers and business owners sometimes freak out about. If you are interested in the intersection of antitrust with other things like data security, privacy and intellectual property you can check out the 2019 Antitrust Fall Forum Tech Summit in Washington, DC in a few weeks or be on the look out for more events put on by the ABA. Note from Dave &amp; Matt - the following summary is just that, a summary. We tried to only summarize what Maureen (and all on the podcast) said and it is not a word for word transcript by any means. We HIGHLY encourage you to dig in and listen to get all the details. This summary is not quotes but just us trying to summarize.Can you explain the scope of where the FTC does get involved and where it doesn't at a high level?i.e What does the FTC do really? For the FTC's answer you can read the site.  The FTC's goal is to promote antitrust competition and to protect consumers. In short the FTC has broad authority but historically doesnt have oversite to common carriers - railroads, old phone system or airlines. In today's world the FTC looks at mergers across a wide range of industry but gets more attention since the start of the internet is around privacy, advertising, and fraud. The EU has the GDPR, California has the CCPA and the US has…? The second part to the long question: Do you see something between the GDPR and CCPA coming to all of the US?  Maureen digs into the question in two parts but also brings up some cases that the FTC in recent years has brought up or been part of. Ashley Madison CaseEquifax Case As far as the GDPR vs CCPA vs Something else it is likely something we will see sooner rather than later. The group digs into how and what a state by state CCPA type thing will simply be chaotic for business. Maureen points out that the GDPR was the EU's solution to this type of chaos. We shall see how the USA handles the state vs federal privacy laws and when it will happen and what it will look like. For more on the evolving nature of the CCPA: Analysis of Attorney General Regulations to the California Consumer Privacy Act – A SeriesCalifornia Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) Maureen points out that it is possible that whatever is finally passed may be setup similar to Children's Internet Protection Act (CIPA).EU Competition Law vs. US Antitrust More specifically the question asked: Other countries have antitrust or competition laws that are similar to but not identical to the laws in the US.  How does that coordination among different countries work and what does it mean for the big tech companies?  Elmer brought up Google vs Amazon vs Microsoft vs Apple in terms of their tech and their closed eco-systems. How does the FTC and other groups see consumer choice and ease for consumers (or consumer choice) vs. tech running into antitrust. For more on antitrust we also did an episode in late 2018 about Google &amp; Antitrust. What do you think will be the next "antitrust case of the century?" In terms of future antitrust cases that the US may bring, Maureen lays out some points from the Microsoft case that may be used again in the future.  A few recent articles state similar things around Microsoft and antitrust today:5 Lessons From Microsoft’s Antitrust Woes, by People Who Lived ItThe Microsoft Antitrust Case*Fake Reviews &amp; Fake FollowersMatt &amp; Dave brought up the topic of sponsored or not sponsored posts on social media, fake followers, fake reviews and how or what the FTC is doing about these things. Maureen gave an interesting answer that we recommend you listen too but also we suggest you look and follow their guidelines. There is no silver bullet other than to follow their guidelines, flag sponsored posts, and if you are not sure check out the Federal Trade Commission Act - Section 5: Unfair or Deceptive Acts or Practices. Here are some more review and follower related links: FTC Rules that Selling Followers and Likes is Illegal, Along with Posting Fake ReviewsA Brief Overview of the Federal Trade Commission's Investigative, Law Enforcement, and Rulemaking Authority

In this episode Dave, Matt and <a href="https://www.businessof.digital/speaker/elmer-boutin/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Elmer </a>were lucky to have a special guests to dig into a number of topics that digital marketers and business owners sometimes freak out about. If you are interested in the intersection of antitrust with other things like data security, privacy and intellectual property you can check out the <a href="https://www.americanbar.org/events-cle/mtg/inperson/373039073/" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">2019 Antitrust Fall Forum Tech Summit in Washington, DC</a> in a few weeks or be on the look out for more events put on by the <a href="https://www.americanbar.org/" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">ABA</a>. Note from Dave &amp; Matt - the following summary is just that, a summary. We tried to only summarize what Maureen (and all on the podcast) said and it is not a word for word transcript by any means. We HIGHLY encourage you to dig in and listen to get all the details. This summary is not quotes but just us trying to summarize.Can you explain the scope of where the FTC does get involved and where it doesn't at a high level? i.e What does the FTC do really? For the <a href="https://www.ftc.gov/about-ftc/what-we-do " rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">FTC's answer</a> you can read the site. The <a href="https://www.ftc.gov/about-ftc/what-we-do" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">FTC's goal</a> is to promote antitrust competition and to protect consumers. In short the FTC has broad authority but historically doesnt have oversite to common carriers - railroads, old phone system or airlines. In today's world the FTC looks at mergers across a wide range of industry but gets more attention since the start of the internet is around privacy, advertising, and fraud. The EU has the GDPR, California has the CCPA and the US has…? The second part to the long question: Do you see something between the GDPR and CCPA coming to all of the US? Maureen digs into the question in two parts but also brings up some cases that the FTC in recent years has brought up or been part of. <ul><li><a href="https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement/cases-proceedings/152-3284/ashley-madison" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Ashley Madison Case</a></li><li><a href="https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/22/equifax-fine-ftc/" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Equifax Case</a></li></ul> As far as the <a href="https://www.businessof.digital/podcast/e49/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">GDPR</a> vs CCPA vs Something else it is likely something we will see sooner rather than later. The group digs into how and what a state by state CCPA type thing will simply be chaotic for business. Maureen points out that the GDPR was the EU's solution to this type of chaos. We shall see how the USA handles the state vs federal privacy laws and when it will happen and what it will look like. For more on the evolving nature of the CCPA: <ul><li><a href="https://www.natlawreview.com/article/analysis-attorney-general-regulations-to-california-consumer-privacy-act-series" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Analysis of Attorney General Regulations to the California Consumer Privacy Act – A Series</a></li><li><a href="https://oag.ca.gov/privacy/ccpa" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA)</a></li></ul> Maureen points out that it is possible that whatever is finally passed may be setup similar to <a href="https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/childrens-internet-protection-act" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Children's Internet Protection Act (CIPA)</a>.EU Competition Law vs. US Antitrust More specifically the question asked: Other countries have antitrust or competition laws that are similar to but not identical to the laws in the US. How does that coordination among different countries work and what does it mean for the big tech companies? Elmer brought up Google vs Amazon vs Microsoft vs Apple in terms of their tech and their closed eco-systems. How does the FTC and other groups see consumer choice and ease for consumers (or consumer choice) vs. tech running into antitrust. For more on antitrust we also did an episode in late 2018 about <a href="https://www.businessof.digital/podcast/e78/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Google &amp; Antitrust</a>. What do you think will be the next "antitrust case of the century?" In terms of future antitrust cases that the US may bring, Maureen lays out some points from the Microsoft case that may be used again in the future. A few recent articles state similar things around Microsoft and antitrust today:<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/23/technology/antitrust-tech-microsoft-lessons.html" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">5 Lessons From Microsoft’s Antitrust Woes, by People Who Lived It</a><a href="http://neconomides.stern.nyu.edu/networks/Microsoft_Antitrust.final.pdf" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">The Microsoft Antitrust Case*</a>Fake Reviews &amp; Fake Followers Matt &amp; Dave brought up the topic of sponsored or not sponsored posts on social media, fake followers, fake reviews and how or what the FTC is doing about these things. Maureen gave an interesting answer that we recommend you listen too but also we suggest you look and follow their guidelines. There is no silver bullet other than to follow their guidelines, flag sponsored posts, and if you are not sure check out the <a href="https://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/supmanual/cch/ftca.pdf" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Federal Trade Commission Act - Section 5: Unfair or Deceptive Acts or Practices</a>. Here are some more review and follower related links: <ul><li><a href="https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/ftc-rules-that-selling-followers-and-likes-is-illegal-along-with-posting-f/565598/" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">FTC Rules that Selling Followers and Likes is Illegal, Along with Posting Fake Reviews</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ftc.gov/about-ftc/what-we-do/enforcement-authority" rel="noreferrer noopener nofollow" target="_blank">A Brief Overview of the Federal Trade Commission's Investigative, Law Enforcement, and Rulemaking Authority</a></li></ul>

E123 – Interview with Former FTC Commissioner & Chairwoman Maureen Ohlhausen

Alan Raul

Maureen Ohlhausen is currently Practice Group Chair and Partner of Antitrust and Competition Law at Baker Botts in Washington, D.C. Alan Raul is founder and lead partner of Sidley Austin's Privacy and Cybersecurity practice in Washington, D.C. We last saw you on a privacy panel we hosted at the National Press Club on January 16th, earlier this year. It's now late February 2019 and this week Congress is holding hearings on federal data privacy. Here's the big question: Will there be privacy legislation this year?

Privacy Legislation in 2019? Maureen Ohlhausen and Alan Raul