Lisi Krall's guest appearances

Lisi Krall

Upstream

Economics for Rebels

Jason Hickel

Johann Hari

Raj Patel

Ron Purser

Joanna Macy

Sarah Corbett

Maria Scordialos

Satish Kumar

Mark Lakeman

Matt Christman

Gail Bradbrook

Richard Wolff

Nathalie Nahai

James Galbraith

Alex Vitale

OwlTail

Since the establishment of agricultural societies, humans have turned themselves into a super-organism that is now jeopardising not only its own existence but also the survival of many other species. Our capacity to organise ourselves, to divide labour, to even sacrifice individual gains for the benefits of humanity has trapped us in a system that is expansionary and full of co-dependencies. The jury is still out whether we can turn this around and once again become just one of the species that occupy this Earth. Today’s guest Lisi Krall explains us what ultrasociality is. Look out for her new book entitled Better harvest: Inquiry into the war between economy and the Earth coming out in Spring 2022.

<p>Since the establishment of agricultural societies, humans have turned themselves into a super-organism that is now jeopardising not only its own existence but also the survival of many other species. Our capacity to organise ourselves, to divide labour, to even sacrifice individual gains for the benefits of humanity has trapped us in a system that is expansionary and full of co-dependencies. The jury is still out whether we can turn this around and once again become just one of the species that occupy this Earth. Today’s guest Lisi Krall explains us what ultrasociality is. Look out for her new book entitled Better harvest: Inquiry into the war between economy and the Earth coming out in Spring 2022.</p>

Ultrasociality: human cooperation at its extreme - Lisi Krall

For the last 150,000 or so years of human evolution, not a whole lot changed. That is, until about 10,000 years ago, when in the blink of an eye we began organizing societies in very, very different ways. We went from small bands of hunter-gatherers to massive state societies; from having a relatively low ecological impact to devastating the natural environments we existed in; from relatively horizontal organization to extreme hierarchy and finely articulated division of labor. These now all-too-familiar traits have culminated in our modern capitalist era, where individual humans have become alienated cogs in a vast industrial machine that seems hell-bent on destroying everything in its path.  How did we get here? What happened 10,000 years ago to put us on this path of expansion and ecological devastation? This is the question guiding the research of Lisi Krall — an economics professor at Cortland University whose research blurs the lines between anthropology, economics, and evolutionary biology. She believes that the advent of agriculture was a turning point in human evolution, and that we can learn a lot about our modern societies by looking at ant and termite colonies. Upstream spoke with Krall about her eclectic research that has brought together an odd mix of disciplines and a lot of uncanny comparisons. We also explored the ramifications of her findings, which pose much deeper, philosophical inquiries into the existential, environmental, and economic challenges that human societies are facing in our modern era. Intermission Music: "Human" by Mount Eerie Cover Art: Robert Raymond Upstream is a labor of love — we couldn't keep this project going without the generosity of our listeners and fans. Please consider making a tax-deductible donation — Thank you! www.upstreampodcast.org/support For more from Upstream, visit www.upstreampodcast.org and follow us on social media: Facebook.com/upstreampodcast Twitter: @upstreampodcast Instagram.com/upstreampodcast You can also subscribe to us (and rate us highly) on iTunes and Google: iTunes: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/upstr…d1082594532?mt=2 Google Play: play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/sulp

For the last 150,000 or so years of human evolution, not a whole lot changed. That is, until about 10,000 years ago, when in the blink of an eye we began organizing societies in very, very different ways. We went from small bands of hunter-gatherers to massive state societies; from having a relatively low ecological impact to devastating the natural environments we existed in; from relatively horizontal organization to extreme hierarchy and finely articulated division of labor. These now all-too-familiar traits have culminated in our modern capitalist era, where individual humans have become alienated cogs in a vast industrial machine that seems hell-bent on destroying everything in its path.  How did we get here? What happened 10,000 years ago to put us on this path of expansion and ecological devastation? This is the question guiding the research of Lisi Krall — an economics professor at Cortland University whose research blurs the lines between anthropology, economics, and evolutionary biology. She believes that the advent of agriculture was a turning point in human evolution, and that we can learn a lot about our modern societies by looking at ant and termite colonies. Upstream spoke with Krall about her eclectic research that has brought together an odd mix of disciplines and a lot of uncanny comparisons. We also explored the ramifications of her findings, which pose much deeper, philosophical inquiries into the existential, environmental, and economic challenges that human societies are facing in our modern era. Intermission Music: "Human" by Mount Eerie Cover Art: Robert Raymond Upstream is a labor of love — we couldn't keep this project going without the generosity of our listeners and fans. Please consider making a tax-deductible donation — Thank you! <a href="http://www.upstreampodcast.org/support" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.upstreampodcast.org/support</a> For more from Upstream, visit <a href="http://www.upstreampodcast.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.upstreampodcast.org</a> and follow us on social media: <a href="http://Facebook.com/upstreampodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook.com/upstreampodcast</a> Twitter: @upstreampodcast <a href="http://Instagram.com/upstreampodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram.com/upstreampodcast</a> You can also subscribe to us (and rate us highly) on iTunes and Google: iTunes: <a href="http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/upstr…d1082594532?mt=2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/upstr…d1082594532?mt=2</a> Google Play: <a href="http://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/sulp" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/sulp</a>

Lisi Krall - How Agriculture Turned Humanity into a Superorganism (In Conversation)