Kate Mullin's guest appearances

Kate Mullin

The Social-Engineer Podcast

Finding Genius Podcast

Human Factor Security

Erin Elliott

Stephen Long

Jake Kushner

Todd Harris

Tom Coughlin

Jeremy Barr

Mark Thomas

Ana Maiques

Charlotte Reznick

Greg Glaser

Peter Stone

Moshe Szyf

Victoria Albina

Mark Burhenne

Andrew Thompson

OwlTail

Welcome to a six-part series where Jenny talks to CISOs about how they view their role, the industry and the threat landscape called CISO Voices, in partnership with Proofpoint. Kate Mullin from Cancer Treatment Centers of America talks about the risks of connecting life-saving medical equipment to the internet and how her teams approach the challenges. To follow Kate on LinkedIn, please click this link here.  To get in touch try the contact page of the Human Factor Security website or follow me on Twitter, where I can be found at @Jenny_Radcliffe Thank you to Proofpoint for sponsoring the CISO Voices series.  Note: music for the show was provided by; Spinnin' by Alex (c) copyright 2011 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/AlexBeroza/32423 Ft: spinningmerkaba

Welcome to a six-part series where Jenny talks to CISOs about how they view their role, the industry and the threat landscape called CISO Voices, in partnership with Proofpoint. Kate Mullin from Cancer Treatment Centers of America talks about the risks of connecting life-saving medical equipment to the internet and how her teams approach the challenges. To follow Kate on LinkedIn, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/katemullin/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">please click this link here</a>.  To get in touch try the <a href="https://humanfactorsecurity.co.uk/contact/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">contact page of the Human Factor Security website</a> or follow me on Twitter, where I can be found at <a href="https://twitter.com/Jenny_Radcliffe" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">@Jenny_Radcliffe</a> Thank you to Proofpoint for sponsoring the CISO Voices series.  Note: music for the show was provided by; Spinnin' by Alex (c) copyright 2011 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license. <a href="http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/AlexBeroza/32423" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/AlexBeroza/32423</a> Ft: spinningmerkaba

This month Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Kathleen (Kate) Mullin. Kate is an influential information security practitioner with over 30 years of experience. Kate currently is CISO with Cancer Treatment Centers of America.  Kate has been CISO at various organizations including start-ups, publicly traded, private equity, not-for-profit, and governmental entities. Throughout her career, Kate has volunteered and participated in maturing information security as a profession. She volunteers with ISC(2) and ISACA and has been a member of the ISACA CGEIT Certification and Credentials Committee and a chapter president. Kate serves as a featured international speaker and panelist. She has a BSBA from St Joseph’s College and an MBA from Florida Metropolitan University. Kate is also certified as a Master Level Social Engineer. [February 21, 2022]  00:00 – Intro    Social-Engineer.com  Managed Voice Phishing  Managed Email Phishing     Adversarial Simulations   Social-Engineer channel on SLACK  CLUTCH  innocentlivesfoundation.org   Human Behavior Conference  03:09 – Kathleen Mullin intro  04:25 – How did you get started in Information Security?  06:39 – What are some indicators that tells you something is ineffective?  10:21 – Do you think the “cookie cutter” type of training is a reflection on the security awareness team itself?  12:16 – How can you offer the more personalized training to a company that is spread out all over the U.S. or the globe?  16:31 – Is having someone in this position who is focused on the people and the results the way to go about having the program be successful?  18:09 – What are your major security concerns being in the healthcare industry, and how are you dealing with those?  21:08 – We are seeing SMishing attacks becoming more prevalent in general. Are you seeing that happening in your industry?  22:47 – Caring about employees’ security outside of work as well  23:35 – What are some action steps that any company can start doing right now?    Have metrics and measure training effectiveness   Humanize your training   Incremental steps   Care about your users for real   26:11 – Demoralizing phishing techniques  28:15 – Book Recommendations:    Martha Wells - Murderbot Diaries series   Robin Dreeke – Code of Trust   Textbook - Enterprise Security Architecture     30:13 – Who would you consider your greatest mentor?    Father, Naval pilot/engineer   Chris Hadnagy   Michele Fincher   David Lynus from the SABSA Institute  34:27 – Finding Kate on the web:    https://www.linkedin.com/in/katemullin/   35:17 – Guest Wrap Up  36:00 – Outro    www.social-engineer.com   www.innocentlivesfoundation.org  

This month Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Kathleen (Kate) Mullin. Kate is an influential information security practitioner with over 30 years of experience. Kate currently is CISO with Cancer Treatment Centers of America.  Kate has been CISO at various organizations including start-ups, publicly traded, private equity, not-for-profit, and governmental entities. Throughout her career, Kate has volunteered and participated in maturing information security as a profession. She volunteers with ISC(2) and ISACA and has been a member of the ISACA CGEIT Certification and Credentials Committee and a chapter president. Kate serves as a featured international speaker and panelist. She has a BSBA from St Joseph’s College and an MBA from Florida Metropolitan University. Kate is also certified as a Master Level Social Engineer. [February 21, 2022]  00:00 – Intro  <ul> <li> <a href="http://www.social-engineer.com/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Social-Engineer.com</a></li> <li> <a href="https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Managed Voice Phishing</a></li> <li> <a href="https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Managed Email Phishing</a> </li> </ul> <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Adversarial Simulations</a> </li> <li> <a href="https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Social-Engineer channel on SLACK</a></li> <li> <a href="http://www.pro-rock.com/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">CLUTCH</a></li> <li> <a href="http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">innocentlivesfoundation.org</a> </li> <li> <a href="https://humanbehaviorcon.com/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Human Behavior Conference</a></li> </ul> 03:09 – Kathleen Mullin intro  04:25 – How did you get started in Information Security?  06:39 – What are some indicators that tells you something is ineffective?  10:21 – Do you think the “cookie cutter” type of training is a reflection on the security awareness team itself?  12:16 – How can you offer the more personalized training to a company that is spread out all over the U.S. or the globe?  16:31 – Is having someone in this position who is focused on the people and the results the way to go about having the program be successful?  18:09 – What are your major security concerns being in the healthcare industry, and how are you dealing with those?  21:08 – We are seeing SMishing attacks becoming more prevalent in general. Are you seeing that happening in your industry?  22:47 – Caring about employees’ security outside of work as well  23:35 – What are some action steps that any company can start doing right now?  <ul> <li> Have metrics and measure training effectiveness </li> <li> Humanize your training </li> <li> Incremental steps </li> <li> Care about your users for real </li> </ul> 26:11 – Demoralizing phishing techniques  28:15 – Book Recommendations:  <ul> <li> <a href="https://www.marthawells.com/murderbot.htm" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Martha Wells</a> - <a href="https://amzn.to/3AWsuBY" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Murderbot Diaries series</a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.peopleformula.com/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Robin Dreeke</a> – <a href="https://amzn.to/34aJ84Z" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Code of Trust</a> </li> <li> Textbook - Enterprise Security Architecture  </li> </ul> 30:13 – Who would you consider your greatest mentor?  <ul> <li> Father, Naval pilot/engineer </li> <li> <a href="https://www.social-engineer.com/social-engineer-team/christopher-hadnagy/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Chris Hadnagy</a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelefincher" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">Michele Fincher</a> </li> <li> <a href="https://www.davidlynas.com/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">David Lynus</a> from the SABSA Institute</li> </ul> 34:27 – Finding Kate on the web:  <ul> <li> <a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fkatemullin%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7Camanda%40social-engineer.com%7C5d6d57d44b294f48958808d9cf386d7f%7Cdda439cc43a34a1caf885bf449aae815%7C0%7C0%7C637768664027917594%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=gZRu3uT9b3l5gLeDWw2sWeKU6uz5tJSWIbQOElC50pE%3D&amp;reserved=0" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/katemullin/</a> </li> </ul> 35:17 – Guest Wrap Up  36:00 – Outro  <ul> <li> <a href="http://www.social-engineer.com/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">www.social-engineer.com</a> </li> <li> <a href="http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/" rel="noopener nofollow" target="_blank">www.innocentlivesfoundation.org</a> </li> </ul>

Ep. 164 - Security Awareness Series - Metrics and Empathy the Answer To Cyber Breaches with Kate Mullin

Kathleen Mullin Bio: Kathleen Mullin, M.D., is the Medical Director for Clinical Research at the New England Institute for Clinical Research and the Associate Medical Director at the New England Institute for Neurology and Headache (NEINH). Dr. Mullin is board-certified in neurology and headache medicine and after graduating from Tufts University and New York University School of Medicine, she completed her residency training at Columbia Presbyterian Hospital, followed by a fellowship in Headache Medicine at Montefiore Medical Center. Prior to joining NEINH, Dr. Mullin was the Assistant Professor in the Department of Neurology at Montefiore.  She was also Director of Clinical Trials, overseeing a busy clinical trials program. She has been a principle and a sub-investigator on numerous studies, with her work being published in peer-reviewed journals and presented at national meetings.   Newer  migraine medications are designed to address a different arm of the pain source than traditional triptan therapy, an approach not usable by patients with vascular issues.  Dr. Mullin explains  How this medication works by blocking CRPG receptors and why that makes a difference What exactly defines a medication as being effective and how Nurtec™ fits the definition, and How to let your doctor know about these newer medications.  Kathleen Mullin, MD, is the Medical Director of the New England Institute for Clinical Research (NEICR) in Stamford and specializes in headache medicine. A neurologist by training, she continued working in headache medicine after a fellowship following medical school and has never looked back. She is a clinician who also helps companies run  migraine medication trails on her patient population and has found a very effective new medication that's now FDA approved: Nurtec™. She explains how this works differently than the common triptan line of medicines, which work to decrease inflammation through vascular shrinking. However, any patient with a vascular condition of any sort is not able to take these medicines.  She explains how the  migraine medication Nurtec™ binds with CGRP receptors; GCRP is a neuropeptide that we all have in our bodies.  Migraine sufferers have an increased amount of them and blocking their ability to bind blocks their ability to cause pain.  Therefore, medications that work this way are called CGRP antagonists.  She discusses the success patients have had with this who haven't found relief with any other medication She adds that headaches are wildly underdiagnosed and urges listeners to seek out medical help if they suffer from headaches. She says that if you ever had a headache that made you feel you had to cancel something, you probably had a  migraine—so go to the doctor, she advises. For more about Nurtec™, see https://www.nurtec.com/ .

Kathleen Mullin Bio: Kathleen Mullin, M.D., is the Medical Director for Clinical Research at the New England Institute for Clinical Research and the Associate Medical Director at the New England Institute for Neurology and Headache (NEINH). Dr. Mullin is board-certified in neurology and headache medicine and after graduating from Tufts University and New York University School of Medicine, she completed her residency training at Columbia Presbyterian Hospital, followed by a fellowship in Headache Medicine at Montefiore Medical Center. Prior to joining NEINH, Dr. Mullin was the Assistant Professor in the Department of Neurology at Montefiore.  She was also Director of Clinical Trials, overseeing a busy clinical trials program. She has been a principle and a sub-investigator on numerous studies, with her work being published in peer-reviewed journals and presented at national meetings. Newer <a href="https://www.findinggeniuspodcast.com/podcasts/migrainex-helping-38-million-americans-get-rid-of-migraines/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> migraine</a> medications are designed to address a different arm of the pain source than traditional triptan therapy, an approach not usable by patients with vascular issues. Dr. Mullin explains <ul> <li>How this medication works by blocking CRPG receptors and why that makes a difference</li> <li>What exactly defines a medication as being effective and how Nurtec™ fits the definition, and</li> <li>How to let your doctor know about these newer medications.</li> </ul> Kathleen Mullin, MD, is the Medical Director of the New England Institute for Clinical Research (NEICR) in Stamford and specializes in headache medicine. A neurologist by training, she continued working in headache medicine after a fellowship following medical school and has never looked back. She is a clinician who also helps companies run <a href="https://www.findinggeniuspodcast.com/podcasts/migrainex-helping-38-million-americans-get-rid-of-migraines/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> migraine</a> medication trails on her patient population and has found a very effective new medication that's now FDA approved: Nurtec™. She explains how this works differently than the common triptan line of medicines, which work to decrease inflammation through vascular shrinking. However, any patient with a vascular condition of any sort is not able to take these medicines. She explains how the <a href="https://www.findinggeniuspodcast.com/podcasts/migrainex-helping-38-million-americans-get-rid-of-migraines/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> migraine</a> medication Nurtec™ binds with CGRP receptors; GCRP is a neuropeptide that we all have in our bodies. <a href="https://www.findinggeniuspodcast.com/podcasts/migrainex-helping-38-million-americans-get-rid-of-migraines/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Migraine</a> sufferers have an increased amount of them and blocking their ability to bind blocks their ability to cause pain. Therefore, medications that work this way are called CGRP antagonists.  She discusses the success patients have had with this who haven't found relief with any other medication She adds that headaches are wildly underdiagnosed and urges listeners to seek out medical help if they suffer from headaches. She says that if you ever had a headache that made you feel you had to cancel something, you probably had a <a href="https://www.findinggeniuspodcast.com/podcasts/migrainex-helping-38-million-americans-get-rid-of-migraines/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> migraine</a>—so go to the doctor, she advises. For more about Nurtec™, see <a href="https://www.nurtec.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nurtec.com/</a> .