Malena Grosz's guest appearances

Malena Grosz

FUTURE FOSSILS

Should We Jam?

Conner Habib

Bernie Taylor

Chris Ryan

Becca Tarnas

Stephanie Lepp

Cory Allen

Charles Eisenstein

David Krantz

Eliot Peper

Kevin Kelly

Richard James

Douglas Rushkoff

Jennifer Sodini

Dennis McKenna

Bruce Damer

OwlTail

Mikey Lion

If you believe in the value of this show and want to see it thrive, support Future Fossils on Patreon and/or please rate and review Future Fossils on Apple Podcasts! Patrons gain access to a secret feed of biweekly episodes, unreleased music, our monthly book club, and many other wondrous things. And join us in the Discord!This week I talk with Mikey Lion, music producer and co-founder of Desert Hearts, and Malena Grosz, creator of The Party Pro Toolkit and director of Stargate Reunion, about the pandemic’s distortions of time and community, flow states and festival time, gatherings in the No New Normal, running a festival and record label at the same time, comparing the potentials of festivals and urban nightlife, the impact of stage design and architecture on how community events shape individual experience, the tension between intimacy and scale, my hatred of silent disco and multiple simultaneous competing sound systems, DMT and other life-changing experiences, the good parts of tribalism, psychedelic integration.We start talking about the initiatic inspirations for both of them as festival producers…and then things get weird. And beautiful and raw and real and intimate — surprisingly, intensely so. Mikey talks about a very bad trip and we help him integrate it.  We aim to close with two questions: What would you tell people in the future if they had forgotten how to party? And what, if they’re better at partying than we are, would you want to ask them?But then we get to talking about the future of festival economics…Mikey Lion: Spotify | SoundCloud | Facebook | Instagram | TwitterDesert Hearts: Spotify | SoundCloud | Facebook | Instagram | TwitterMalena Grosz: Party Pro Toolkit | Future Fossils 96 | LinkedIn | Twitter | FacebookFrom the press release for Mikey’s new LP, For The Love:“Before nurturing his brand and record label into the behemoth that it is today, a young Mikey Lion had been living with his parents and questioning the direction to take his life. Mesmeric album closer ‘Talking To The Trees’ with its lush synth layers and gossamer vocals, sketches out how his path was revealed to him. During a fateful psychedelic trip, he was guided to spread love and community under the banner of House, Techno, and Love that fans know today. Desert Hearts was officially launched in 2012, and the rest is history."Support this show financially:• Shop my Bookshop.org reading lists and I get a cut of all the sales from local booksellers• Venmo: @futurefossils• PayPal.me/michaelgarfield• Patreon: patreon.com//michaelgarfield• BTC: 1At2LQbkQmgDugkchkP6QkDJCvJ5rv3Jm• ETH: 0xfD2BC66586FA4FBA189992E9B0037CD5cb9673EF• NFTs: Rarible | FoundationPeople &amp; Topics in this episode:Malena Grosz, Peter Dodds, George Carlin, Burning Man, Coachella, UtopiaFest, Firefly Gathering, Stuart Davis, Aliens and Artists, Topher Sipes, Trinumeral Festival, The War of ArtRelated episodes:David Bronner, Shane Mauss, The Teafaerie, Lydia Violet, Tricia Eastman, Rak Razam and Niles Heckman, Dennis McKenna, Jessica Nielson and Link Swanson Program Info:Episode edited by my amazing wife, Nicole Taylor. (It’s even more amazing that she did this when you listen to me divulge our relationship on the show…)Theme music by Future Fossils co-host Evan “Skytree” Snyder.I transcribe this show with help from Podscribe.ai — which I highly recommend to other podcasters. If you’d like to help me edit transcripts for my upcoming Future Fossils book project, please let me know! I’m @michaelgarfield on Twitter &amp; Instagram.Affiliate Stuff:If you’re looking for new ways to help regulate stress, get better sleep, recover from exercise, and/or stay alert and focused without stimulants, let me recommend the Apollo Neuro wearable. I have one and appreciate it so much I decided to join their affiliate program. The science is solid.And for my fellow guitarists in the audience, let me recommend you get yourself a Jamstik Studio, the coolest MIDI guitar I’ve ever played. I just grabbed one this year and LOVE it.When you’re ready to switch it up, here are my music and listening recommendations on Spotify. Get bonus content on PatreonSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/futurefossils. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

If you believe in the value of this show and want to see it thrive, <a href="https://patreon.com/michaelgarfield" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">support Future Fossils on Patreon</a> and/or please <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/future-fossils/id1152767505" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">rate and review Future Fossils on Apple Podcasts</a>! Patrons gain access to a secret feed of biweekly episodes, unreleased music, our monthly book club, and many other wondrous things. And join us in the <a href="https://discord.gg/5JeugFT" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Discord</a>!This week I talk with Mikey Lion, music producer and co-founder of Desert Hearts, and Malena Grosz, creator of The Party Pro Toolkit and director of Stargate Reunion, about the pandemic’s distortions of time and community, flow states and festival time, gatherings in the No New Normal, running a festival and record label at the same time, comparing the potentials of festivals and urban nightlife, the impact of stage design and architecture on how community events shape individual experience, the tension between intimacy and scale, my hatred of silent disco and multiple simultaneous competing sound systems, DMT and other life-changing experiences, the good parts of tribalism, psychedelic integration.We start talking about the initiatic inspirations for both of them as festival producers…and then things get weird. And beautiful and raw and real and intimate — surprisingly, intensely so. Mikey talks about a very bad trip and we help him integrate it.  We aim to close with two questions: What would you tell people in the future if they had forgotten how to party? And what, if they’re better at partying than we are, would you want to ask them?But then we get to talking about the future of festival economics…Mikey Lion: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/50iz6mQhjUfbM0UjtZxWIp?si=6IONwZgPTq-VZTeerHrXwA" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://soundcloud.com/mikeylion" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">SoundCloud</a> | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/MikeyLionMusic" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mikeylion/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeyLion_" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>Desert Hearts: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/47VrN7EGUT0kLBb3Bsirza?si=gTIHisLfQGikgayotMckYQ" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Spotify</a> | <a href="https://soundcloud.com/desert-hearts-records" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">SoundCloud</a> | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/WeAreDesertHearts" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/deserthearts/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/DesertHearts" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a>Malena Grosz: <a href="https://www.partyprotoolkit.com/build/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Party Pro Toolkit</a> | <a href="https://shows.acast.com/futurefossils/episodes/96" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Future Fossils 96</a> | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/malenagrosz/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/malenalou?lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a> | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/malena.grosz" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Facebook</a>From the press release for Mikey’s new LP, For The Love:“Before nurturing his brand and record label into the behemoth that it is today, a young Mikey Lion had been living with his parents and questioning the direction to take his life. Mesmeric album closer ‘Talking To The Trees’ with its lush synth layers and gossamer vocals, sketches out how his path was revealed to him. During a fateful psychedelic trip, he was guided to spread love and community under the banner of House, Techno, and Love that fans know today. Desert Hearts was officially launched in 2012, and the rest is history."Support this show financially:• Shop my <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/futurefossils" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Bookshop.org</a> reading lists and I get a cut of all the sales from local booksellers• Venmo: @futurefossils• <a href="https://open.acast.com/shows/5a85dc81756ad1eb46c66330/episodes/PayPal.me/michaelgarfield" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">PayPal.me/michaelgarfield</a>• Patreon: <a href="http://patreon.com//michaelgarfield" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">patreon.com//michaelgarfield</a>• BTC: 1At2LQbkQmgDugkchkP6QkDJCvJ5rv3Jm• ETH: 0xfD2BC66586FA4FBA189992E9B0037CD5cb9673EF• NFTs: <a href="https://rarible.com/michaelgarfield" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Rarible</a> | <a href="https://foundation.app/michaelgarfield" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Foundation</a>People &amp; Topics in this episode:Malena Grosz, Peter Dodds, George Carlin, Burning Man, Coachella, UtopiaFest, Firefly Gathering, Stuart Davis, Aliens and Artists, Topher Sipes, Trinumeral Festival, The War of ArtRelated episodes:<a href="https://shows.acast.com/futurefossils/episodes/63" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">David Bronner</a>, <a href="https://shows.acast.com/futurefossils/episodes/58" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Shane Mauss</a>, <a href="https://shows.acast.com/futurefossils/episodes/100" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">The Teafaerie</a>, <a href="https://shows.acast.com/futurefossils/episodes/82" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Lydia Violet</a>, <a href="https://shows.acast.com/futurefossils/episodes/103" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Tricia Eastman</a>, <a href="https://shows.acast.com/futurefossils/episodes/27" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Rak Razam and Niles Heckman</a>, <a href="https://shows.acast.com/futurefossils/episodes/88" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Dennis McKenna</a>, <a href="https://shows.acast.com/futurefossils/episodes/131" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Jessica Nielson and Link Swanson</a> Program Info:Episode edited by my amazing wife, <a href="https://instagram.com/nicoletaylor.strings" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Nicole Taylor</a>. (It’s even more amazing that she did this when you listen to me divulge our relationship on the show…)Theme music by Future Fossils co-host <a href="https://skytree.bandcamp.com/album/infraplanetary" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Evan “Skytree” Snyder</a>.I transcribe this show with help from <a href="https://podscribe.ai/?ref=michaelgarfield" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Podscribe.ai</a> — which I highly recommend to other podcasters. If you’d like to help me edit transcripts for my upcoming Future Fossils book project, please let me know! I’m @michaelgarfield on <a href="https://twitter.com/michaelgarfield" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Twitter</a> &amp; <a href="https://instagram.com/michaelgarfield" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Instagram</a>.Affiliate Stuff:If you’re looking for new ways to help regulate stress, get better sleep, recover from exercise, and/or stay alert and focused without stimulants, let me recommend the <a href="https://apolloneuroscience.pxf.io/c/2718709/916509/12331" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Apollo Neuro</a> wearable. I have one and appreciate it so much I decided to join their affiliate program. The science is solid.And for my fellow guitarists in the audience, let me recommend you get yourself a <a href="https://jamstik.com/?ref=futurefossils" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Jamstik Studio</a>, the coolest MIDI guitar I’ve ever played. I just grabbed one this year and LOVE it.When you’re ready to switch it up, here are <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/46UT138ndv6ZAeDt0eO64h" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">my music</a> and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/225ThSes92498p2FNz34U8?si=6LoQd4o6SFekm8vSTgadDQ" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">listening recommendations</a> on Spotify. <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/155925" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a>Support this show <a href="http://supporter.acast.com/futurefossils" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">http://supporter.acast.com/futurefossils</a>. Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

168 - Mikey Lion & Malena Grosz on Festival Time, Life-Changing Trips, and Community in COVID

Malena shares what it was like to be a highly sensitive person in a society that celebrates toughness. She ultimately found her community in the artistic scene, and lightness through acting and role play. Her story celebrates the breakthroughs that happen when you do what you want to do despite the fear. "Should We Jam?" is a podcast where not-neccesarily-famous-people perform an autobiographical story of transformation. Each story is accompanied by live music. "Should We Jam?" is part of a project called "Should We Talk?" -- a website on communication and self-awareness by Florencia Durón. Florencia is a musician, communication researcher and storyteller. She writes everything related to communication on her website.   👉 Watch this episode on YouTube 👉 Visit Florencia's website  Percussion by: Lawson Malnory. Episode sponsored by Transformation Project and the DBR Lab.

Malena shares what it was like to be a highly sensitive person in a society that celebrates toughness. She ultimately found her community in the artistic scene, and lightness through acting and role play. Her story celebrates the breakthroughs that happen when you do what you want to do despite the fear. "Should We Jam?" is a podcast where not-neccesarily-famous-people perform an autobiographical story of transformation. Each story is accompanied by live music. "Should We Jam?" is part of a project called "<a href="https://shouldwetalk.com/en/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Should We Talk?</a>" -- a website on communication and self-awareness by Florencia Durón. Florencia is a musician, communication researcher and storyteller. She writes everything related to communication on her website.   👉 Watch this episode on <a href="https://youtu.be/ouFLhcjKUG4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">YouTube</a> 👉 Visit <a href="https://shouldwetalk.com/en/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Florencia's website</a> Percussion by: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGlC3FrKo-5LUKm7pLYlerQ" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lawson Malnory.</a> Episode sponsored by <a href="https://bit.ly/3nzfnjx" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Transformation Project</a> and the <a href="https://www.danielroumain.com/dbr-lab" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">DBR Lab</a>.

Do what scares you | Malena Grosz on Burning Man, Burlesque, and Fearless Creation 

This week’s guest is the intriguing, talented, and amazingly well-organized Malena Grosz, who is currently traveling across the United States to interview party culture professionals for her multimedia thesis on community-led party culture to gain and share their perspectives on best practices and shared challenges in cultivating better life through celebratory gatherings – and to tackle the corporate commodification of “nightlife” and its dangerous side effects.Her website-as-thesis-project will eventually be live (circa May 2019) at:http://partyprotoolkit.comWe Discuss:Gentrification and corporatization of nightlife versus community-led celebration, What urban nightlife can learn from Burning Man and festival culture, The disavowal of mundane time in spaces of celebration and how party culture does and does not need to accept the realities of our organic rhythms,Mentorship, moderation, self-control, personal agency, Reconciling the nomadic and sedentary strains of humanity,Taking responsibility for your own education (and life in general),Getting kicked out of the School of Art for consent-based body painting,Harm reduction versus the nanny state,Learning to speak party to Academia,The extraordinary importance of cognitive liberty and the freedom to imbibe,The economics of big festivals and their scaling problem, and how it turns people into cattle,Alternatives to alcohol (like tonics) and how parties can stay solvent without depending on encouraging dangerous levels of intoxication,Learning how to empower people by delegating decision-making authority as an event producer,Everything in moderation, even moderation,The importance of safe spaces within every party (like Camp Soft Landing at Burning Man),Rest stops at festivals and rests in music, quiet places where people can connect to contrast against losing yourself on the dance floor,What party culture can learn from the intensely structured environment of academia,“Festival referees” - good idea or disaster waiting to happen?,Deputizing “Knights of the Dance Floor” and empowering people to be guardians of collective space,Festival sheriffs and Night Mayors and the successful interfacing of mainstream culture and the needs of revelry populations,The New York Nightlife Advisory Board and other official groups representing the needs of party culture in city and state governments,Other promising international developments in the progress of human understanding of what safely integrated party culture looks like,Figuring out how to measure the contributions of everyone involved in an event, not just the headlining acts.And more!Support this show on Patreon: https://patreon.com/michaelgarfieldJoin the Facebook Group: https://facebook.com/groups/futurefossilsSubscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/future-fossils/id1152767505?mt=2Subscribe on Google Podcasts: http://bit.ly/future-fossils-googleSubscribe on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/michael-garfield/future-fossilsSubscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2eCYA4ISHLUWbEFOXJ8C5vSubscribe on iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-FUTURE-FOSSILS-28991847/ Get bonus content on PatreonSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/futurefossils. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week’s guest is the intriguing, talented, and amazingly well-organized Malena Grosz, who is currently traveling across the United States to interview party culture professionals for her multimedia thesis on community-led party culture to gain and share their perspectives on best practices and shared challenges in cultivating better life through celebratory gatherings – and to tackle the corporate commodification of “nightlife” and its dangerous side effects.Her website-as-thesis-project will eventually be live (circa May 2019) at:<a href="http://partyprotoolkit.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://partyprotoolkit.com</a>We Discuss:Gentrification and corporatization of nightlife versus community-led celebration, What urban nightlife can learn from Burning Man and festival culture, The disavowal of mundane time in spaces of celebration and how party culture does and does not need to accept the realities of our organic rhythms,Mentorship, moderation, self-control, personal agency, Reconciling the nomadic and sedentary strains of humanity,Taking responsibility for your own education (and life in general),Getting kicked out of the School of Art for consent-based body painting,Harm reduction versus the nanny state,Learning to speak party to Academia,The extraordinary importance of cognitive liberty and the freedom to imbibe,The economics of big festivals and their scaling problem, and how it turns people into cattle,Alternatives to alcohol (like tonics) and how parties can stay solvent without depending on encouraging dangerous levels of intoxication,Learning how to empower people by delegating decision-making authority as an event producer,Everything in moderation, even moderation,The importance of safe spaces within every party (like Camp Soft Landing at Burning Man),Rest stops at festivals and rests in music, quiet places where people can connect to contrast against losing yourself on the dance floor,What party culture can learn from the intensely structured environment of academia,“Festival referees” - good idea or disaster waiting to happen?,Deputizing “Knights of the Dance Floor” and empowering people to be guardians of collective space,Festival sheriffs and Night Mayors and the successful interfacing of mainstream culture and the needs of revelry populations,The New York Nightlife Advisory Board and other official groups representing the needs of party culture in city and state governments,Other promising international developments in the progress of human understanding of what safely integrated party culture looks like,Figuring out how to measure the contributions of everyone involved in an event, not just the headlining acts.And more!Support this show on Patreon: <a href="https://patreon.com/michaelgarfield" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://patreon.com/michaelgarfield</a>Join the Facebook Group: <a href="https://facebook.com/groups/futurefossils" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://facebook.com/groups/futurefossils</a>Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/future-fossils/id1152767505?mt=2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/future-fossils/id1152767505?mt=2</a>Subscribe on Google Podcasts: <a href="https://bit.ly/future-fossils-google" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/future-fossils-google</a>Subscribe on Stitcher: <a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/michael-garfield/future-fossils" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/michael-garfield/future-fossils</a>Subscribe on Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2eCYA4ISHLUWbEFOXJ8C5v" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/2eCYA4ISHLUWbEFOXJ8C5v</a>Subscribe on iHeart Radio: <a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-FUTURE-FOSSILS-28991847/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-FUTURE-FOSSILS-28991847/</a> <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/155925" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Get bonus content on Patreon</a>Support this show <a href="http://supporter.acast.com/futurefossils" rel="payment nofollow" target="_blank">http://supporter.acast.com/futurefossils</a>. Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

96 - Malena Grosz on Community-Led Party Culture vs. Corporate "Nightlife"