Cover image of The Think Orange Podcast | A Podcast For Family, Next Generation, Children's and Student Ministry Leaders
(93)
Kids & Family
Religion & Spirituality
Christianity

The Think Orange Podcast | A Podcast For Family, Next Generation, Children's and Student Ministry Leaders

Updated 3 days ago

Kids & Family
Religion & Spirituality
Christianity
Read more

The Think Orange Podcast is a podcast with ideas and conversations to help you influence the faith of the next generation.

Read more

The Think Orange Podcast is a podcast with ideas and conversations to help you influence the faith of the next generation.

iTunes Ratings

93 Ratings
Average Ratings
80
5
4
2
2

First time....

By Krysteeanne - Nov 15 2018
Read more
....listening to this podcast and I Loved it! Shared with our whole Leadership Team

Awesome!

By cookam12 - Jun 03 2018
Read more
Amazing content! Thank you!

iTunes Ratings

93 Ratings
Average Ratings
80
5
4
2
2

First time....

By Krysteeanne - Nov 15 2018
Read more
....listening to this podcast and I Loved it! Shared with our whole Leadership Team

Awesome!

By cookam12 - Jun 03 2018
Read more
Amazing content! Thank you!

The Best Episodes of:

Cover image of The Think Orange Podcast | A Podcast For Family, Next Generation, Children's and Student Ministry Leaders

The Think Orange Podcast | A Podcast For Family, Next Generation, Children's and Student Ministry Leaders

Updated 3 days ago

Read more

The Think Orange Podcast is a podcast with ideas and conversations to help you influence the faith of the next generation.

Rank #1: 028: How The Church Can Be The Bridge In Race Relations with Tasha Morrison

Podcast cover
Read more
Addressing racism and injustice is messy and difficult to talk about, and it’s natural to either avoid the conversation altogether or scratch the surface by using hashtags on social media and think you’ve done your part as a church. But often, our silence as a church is perceived compliance.In today’s episode of the Think Orange podcast, we’re joined with Tasha Morrison, founder of Be The Bridge, an organization at the forefront of racial reconciliation. Together, we discuss what our role is in relieving the tension in a racially-divided country.

Oct 24 2017

55mins

Play

Rank #2: 039: Tips and Tools for Time Management

Podcast cover
Read more
Have you ever gotten to the end of a busy day—one in which you rushed breathlessly from task to task—and asked yourself, “Where did the time go today?” It’s not that the things you did weren’t important, but you wonder if they were the most important? Sure, that’s a tension every ministry leader feels from time to time. That’s why today on the Think Orange Podcast, we’re talking all about how to maximize the time we have.First we’ll hear from Will Hutcherson on what it looks like to juggle multiple ministry responsibilities and why it’s important to focus on what’s most essential in our lives. Then Frank Bealer joins us for a practical conversation on how to switch from a to-do list to a calendar-oriented system. Frank challenges us to take control of the time we have, so we can eliminate chaos from our lives and invest more fully in our ministries and families. Welcome to Episode 39 of the Think Orange Podcast.

Jan 09 2018

1hr 10mins

Play

Rank #3: 002: Impact Requires Alignment – Reggie Joiner and Carey Nieuwhof on Creating a Common Goal and Getting Ministry Leaders to Work Together

Podcast cover
Read more
Thinking orange is combining the love of the home with the light of the church to impact and influence a child’s faith. But where do you start? A team of leaders—staff, volunteers, parents—who are aligned around a common, integrated strategy.In this episode of the Think Orange Podcast, Reggie Joiner shares with us what a strategy is and why it’s vital to the success of our church or ministry. Then, we’ll talk to Carey Nieuwhof about how to get your team on the same page.

Apr 24 2017

42mins

Play

Rank #4: 080: Techniques for Getting the Best Out of Your Team

Podcast cover
Read more

Timeline

  • References
  • Guest(s)
  • Quotes
  • Conversations
  • Ideas
  • Hosts
  • We’ve all heard the joke, “Ministry would be easy if not for the people.” We all have days that can feel frustrating or out of sync—like when you’re overwhelmed by your workload or those on your team aren’t speaking the same language. In those moments we wonder if it might be easier to just go at it alone. But the reality is we need more than just ourselves to accomplish the mission we’ve been given.

    In today’s conversations, we hear from Doug Fields and Amber Baker. With a combined 50-plus years of experience leading teams, they share the whys and hows for celebrating and empowering those you’ve been called to lead. Whether you lead a team of staff, volunteers, or students, these techniques will help you grow in your awareness of yourself as a leader, as well as those you’re working with every single day.

    Welcome to Episode 80 of the Think Orange Podcast.

    Where To Listen:iTunes  |  Google Play  |  Stitcher  |  SoundCloud

    Topic Timeline

    K-Daddy shares the importance of letting those you lead know you believe in them (1:23)

    Today’s episode brought to us by The Orange Conference (3:22)

    Doug Fields talks about the value of people who can lead others well (5:30)

    Lead like you want to be led—what do you want from the people who are over you? (8:34)

    Every leader is a bundle of strengths and weaknesses (10:49)

    Leadership shouldn’t be about comparison (11:08)

    Within the church, we need to improve in how we develop people (12:08)

    Team-focused leaders give up their pride (14:47)

    A spotlight leader puts the attention on others’ accomplishments and successes (15:46)

    Team-focused leaders give up perfectionism (16:51)

    Team-focused leaders give team members genuine belief (19:27)

    Belief is a decision, so remind people occasionally how talented they are (23:27)

    Praise in public; criticize in private (24:12)

    Sarah Bragg and Dan Scott interview Amber Baker (25:10)

    Understanding your team as individuals is important (27:24)

    Amber describes the four temperaments of the Real Colors Personality Test (27:51)

    The art of getting the most out of every personality type and keeping your team on the same page (32:03)

    A foundation of trust is critical for building a dynamic team (34:01)

    Having people in the right roles is key to growing your team (35:18)

    Tips for hiring and firing well (37:44)

    Alignment is a constant, consistent process (39:27)

    Advice for leaders whose teams are hanging by a thread (41:42)

    How to choose a personality or temperament assessment that’s right for you and your team (43:45)

    Dave’s final thoughts (47:18)

    People, Places & Helpful Resources

    The Orange Conference 2019

    Real Colors Personality Test

    Zoom Video Communication

    Featured Guests

    AMBER BAKER

    Currently Amber is one of the Children’s Pastors at Grace Church of Glendora in Glendora, CA . She loves working with teams, equipping volunteers, empowering parents, and raising kids to be leaders today. Amber Baker has a degree in Christian Ministries and a MA in Organizational Leadership. She’s also a certified Real Colors Temperament Trainer and an Adjunct at Azusa Pacific University. Learn more about Amber at www.amberbaker.me.

    DOUG FIELDS

    Doug Fields is a communicator, author, & consultant. He is the Senior Director of HomeWord’s Center for Youth/Family at Azusa Pacific University, the co-founder of Downloadyouthministry.com, and the author of more than 50 books. More information about Doug is available at www.dougfields.com.

    Quotes from This Episode

    When you’re authentically yourself and you lead how you wish you were led, you’ll be a great leader. – @DougFields
    Click To Tweet

    To bring out the best in others, you have to be intentional about it—it’s not accidental. – @DougFields
    Click To Tweet

    If you’re an insecure leader, you’ll never bring out the best in others. – @DougFields
    Click To Tweet

    With any team, a foundation of trust is most important. – @AmberDBaker
    Click To Tweet

    Leaders must be students of their teams and each individual’s personality and communication style. – @AmberDBaker
    Click To Tweet

    Ideas to Influence the Next Generation

    In his book The Five Dysfunctions of a Team, Patrick Lencioni says, “Teamwork doesn’t require great intellectual insights or masterful tactics. More than anything else, it comes down to courage and persistence.”

    The courage . . .
    to consider a viewpoint different from your own.
    to have an awkward conversation in order to achieve clarity.
    to help team members reconcile when they don’t see eye to eye.

    The persistence . . .
    to not write someone off based on one mistake.
    to meet regularly, even when life gets busy.
    to fight for the heart of each individual team member.

    Conversation Starters For Your Church

    Describe a time someone praised you publicly. What was it for and how did it make you feel?

    As you consider your personal leadership style, what are some things you value in those who lead you?

    Is there an area of your ministry you’ve been trying to control to the detriment of those you lead? What’s something you can do in the next month to let go of perfectionism in order to empower a future leader?

    Who is someone on your team who could use encouragement or a “way to go!” this week?

    What’s a step you can take in better understanding the individual personalities of those on your team?

    Your Host

    DAVE ADAMSON

    When he’s not working as a pastor at North Point Ministries in Atlanta, Dave is usually making his family cross their arms, roll their eyes, and tap their feet while he takes “just one more quick photo” on family outings. You’ll also often find him up to his neck in “Jewish stuff” as he researches the cultural context of Jesus for his daily Instagram devotions. Learn more about Dave at daveadamson.tv.

    Join Us Next Week

    Thank you for listening to the Think Orange Podcast.

    We hope you’ll join us for next week’s episode. More importantly, we hope that when you think next generation, you think Orange.

    Jan 22 2019

    49mins

    Play

    Rank #5: 052: What’s New with Today’s Preteens

    Podcast cover
    Read more
    Preteens hold unprecedented influence, more than any other time in history. Yet, anyone who has spent time in children’s or middle school ministry has stories of preteens that sit against the back wall, roll their eyes at what’s said on stage, and barely tolerate the hour. Or of some who just don’t show up at all. Today’s preteens are getting lost in transition as they shift from childhood to adolescence, a unique and challenging time when they are not quite one thing and not quite the other. Today on the Think Orange Podcast, we sit down with Dan Scott, author of Caught In Between: Engage Your Preteens Before They Check Out, to talk about how church leaders can help preteens develop a faith of their own as they move from children’s to middle school ministry.

    Apr 17 2018

    1hr 6mins

    Play

    Rank #6: 044: How to Reimagine and Redesign Your Ministry

    Podcast cover
    Read more
    As church leaders, we know Sunday doesn’t just happen. It takes time, energy, and resources to create programming week after week. But is what we do on Sunday the best way to set families up to win on Monday? Today on the Think Orange Podcast, Reggie Joiner shares about his own personal experiences with reactionary versus creative action. He challenges us to flip from a Sunday to a Monday mindset. Then Jason and Hillary DeMeo, co-founders of We Are Curio, unpack how design thinking can benefit ministries everywhere.Welcome to Episode 44 of the Think Orange Podcast!

    Feb 20 2018

    1hr 12mins

    Play

    Rank #7: 056: How to Become a Better Leader

    Podcast cover
    Read more
    If you’re checking out this podcast, you’re probably in some sort of leadership role. Maybe you lead a team at your church. Or maybe you lead a group of kids as a volunteer. Or maybe you’re leading your family at home. If any of these things is true, then this conversation is for you.First we hear from Joel Manby. Known for his success in the business world, Joel has made a practice of applying the teachings of Jesus to professional settings. Then, Holly Crawshaw and Sarah Bragg sit down with Clay Scroggins to talk about principles from his book How to Lead When You’re Not in Charge. By the end of the episode, you’ll have practical steps you can take to lead from a place of purpose rather than position.Welcome to Episode 56 of the Think Orange Podcast.

    May 17 2018

    43mins

    Play

    Rank #8: 061: How To Invite Parents to the Party

    Podcast cover
    Read more
    As church and ministry leaders, we know that we need to partner with parents to better influence the life of a child. But where we sometimes miss the mark: There’s a difference between including parents, and making them feel invited and welcome to the party.On today’s episode of the Think Orange Podcast, Cindy Fiala explains why every church needs a thoughtful, strategic message for parents. Then, we have a conversation with America’s Supernanny, Deborah Tillman. Deborah reminds us what parents need most from the church and shares her advice on how to walk alongside them.Welcome to Episode 61 of the Think Orange Podcast.

    Jun 19 2018

    48mins

    Play

    Rank #9: 037: What 46 Leaders Taught Us About Leading The Next Generation (The Best of 2017)

    Podcast cover
    Read more
    This year, we’ve heard from some of the Church’s most insightful youth ministry leaders to help us learn how to help make kids faith stick outside of the Church’s four walls. In today’s episode of the Think Orange Podcast, we’ll reminisce on some topics we found most helpful in our challenging, yet rewarding opportunity to pour into the lives of the next generation.

    Dec 26 2017

    1hr 4mins

    Play

    Rank #10: 003: Partnering with Parents – Leveraging the Biggest Influence on a Kid’s Faith with Reggie Joiner and Sherry Surratt

    Podcast cover
    Read more
    Nobody influences the life of a child more than a parent. But nobody influences the life of a parent more than the church. If the church wants to influence kids, they can't forget about leveraging the influence that parents have parents.On today's episode of the podcast, Reggie Joiner joins us to paint a picture of the importance of engaging with parents during their child's faith journey. Then, we're joined by Sherry Surratt as she talks about the practical ways to partner with parents.

    May 02 2017

    40mins

    Play

    Rank #11: 023: How To Protect And Strengthen Your Marriage While Working In Ministry with Ted Lowe and Doug Fields

    Podcast cover
    Read more
    Ministry is not easy. Marriage is not easy. Trying to keep a thriving marriage in ministry can sometimes feel impossible. Working for the church often means your day isn’t over at 5 p.m. A traditional job doesn’t always come with the late night emergencies, direct feedback from parents, lack of gratitude from kids, and weekly, recurring deadlines of Sunday. Most importantly, there’s the constant pressure of living a life on display.On Episode 23 of the Think Orange Podcast, our guests Doug Fields and Ted Lowe discuss the realities of being married in ministry and share how we can protect and strengthen our marriage while serving in the church.

    Sep 19 2017

    1hr 4mins

    Play

    Rank #12: 070: How To Develop Strong Student Leaders

    Podcast cover
    Read more
    We would probably all agree that service is an important part of student leadership development, but is having students in leadership roles enough? Today on The Pod, we hear from a collection of long-time student ministry experts who share their thoughts on how to develop students who not only lead but have influence as well. Welcome to Episode 70 of The Think Orange Podcast.

    Sep 05 2018

    55mins

    Play

    Rank #13: 021: Setting And Achieving Goals In Your Ministry and Life with Jon Acuff

    Podcast cover
    Read more
    God calls each of us to put our talents and gifts to work. And when we’re feeling the pull, we start on the goal, project or other venture we feel called to. And then, things get hard or we get bored and the goals that we were once excited about become another project unfinished.Why is it that 92% of goals never get finished? Jon Acuff has spent the last few years researching just that. Today on the podcast, Jon is breaking down why we start and then stop, the things we’re doing to hold ourselves back, and reminding us that achieving our goals isn’t just fun… it’s good stewardship.Welcome to Episode 21 of the Think Orange Podcast.

    Sep 06 2017

    49mins

    Play

    Rank #14: 067: Leveraging Culture and Creativity to Engage Generation Z and Millennials

    Podcast cover
    Read more
    If you live outside the city, are over the age of 30, or never turn on your car radio, you might not be aware of some of the cultural shifts happening today. For example, did you know that hip-hop has overtaken rock and roll as the #1 music genre? Today’s culture is moving fast, and unless we take our cues from those pushing it forward, the church could get stuck at a standstill.On today’s episode of The Pod, we interview Joseph Sojourner, hip-hop artist and culture expert, on how the church can lean in and think creatively to engage the Generation Z and Millennial generations. From our conversation, we see that one of the best ways to connect with the next generation is to truly listen to “their story told in their way.”Welcome to Episode 67 of the Think Orange Podcast!

    Jul 31 2018

    51mins

    Play

    Rank #15: 025: Why Preschool Ministry Is So Important To Growing Kids’ Faith with Brittany Compton-Robertson and Cass Brannan

    Podcast cover
    Read more
    The preschool years are tough on parents — it’s a time when kids are questioning everything, forming their own opinions, and strengthening their willpower. And while it can sometimes leave parents wishing for the season to be over, it’s also a time of great discovery and a wonderful opportunity to teach kids the true character of God. On episode 25 of the Think Orange Podcast, our guests, Brittany Compton-Robertson, Director of Preschool Strategy at Orange, and Cass Brannan, minister to preschool at Calvary Baptist Church, talk about the important role your church’s preschool ministry plays in laying the foundation of a big faith in God.

    Oct 03 2017

    43mins

    Play

    Rank #16: 004: What Should We Say To Kids At Church This Week? – Reggie Joiner, Kristen Ivy and Dan Scott on Being Relevant, Saying Less and Prioritizing What’s Most Important

    Podcast cover
    Read more
    It’s the goal of every ministry leader to help kids and teenagers have a relationship with Jesus. But if you want students to hear more truth, then change the way you present it.On today's episode of the podcast, Reggie Joiner shares an essential of thinking Orange – Refine the Message. Then, Kristin Ivy and Dan Scott join Dave for a candid and powerful conversation discussing what to communicate, how to communicate and when to communicate. How you present the Gospel and scripture have the power to change a child’s life forever.

    May 09 2017

    57mins

    Play

    Rank #17: 042: Tips for Building a Successful Family Ministry in a Start-Up Church

    Podcast cover
    Read more
    When you’re a start-up church, there are a million details to think about before you can even open your doors. It can be tempting to start by creating places for adults to worship. But what if you could make a greater impact by turning your energy toward a strategy that keeps the entire family in mind?Today on the Think Orange Podcast, Brian White shares some principles we can learn from Disney that can be applied to our family ministry environments. Then Geoff Surratt joins us in the bunker for a conversation about what all churches—but especially start-ups—can do to implement successful family ministries. Welcome to Episode 42 of the Think Orange Podcast!

    Jan 31 2018

    46mins

    Play

    Rank #18: 079: Accomplishing More by Doing Less

    Podcast cover
    Read more

    Timeline

  • References
  • Guest(s)
  • Quotes
  • Conversations
  • Ideas
  • Hosts
  • The new year is a popular time for saying “yes.” “Yes” to more family time. “Yes” to exercise. “Yes” to getting plenty of rest. But what if this year, you could accomplish all these things and more because of a decision to say “no” instead?

    Today on The Pod, Frank Bealer and EJ Swanson join us to talk about the practice of slowing down. As two ministry leaders fluent in large-church ministry and high-level responsibility, Frank and EJ are pros at being efficient with their time while still leaning into relationships. They share how we can all slow down and manage our days in a way that won’t drive us—or our families—to the breaking point.

    Where To Listen:iTunes  |  Google Play  |  Stitcher  |  SoundCloud

    Topic Timeline

    Dave and Kacey talk New Year’s resolutions (2:47)

    Today’s episode brought to us by The Orange Conference (7:17)

    Frank Bealer addresses three lies leaders tell themselves about their calendars (8:53)

    Lie 1: This is just a busy season. (8:53)

    Lie 2: Next week will be better. (11:52)

    Lie 3: Everyone understands. (15:57)

    50 percent of people who get involved in vocational ministry quit within the first 5 years (21:32)

    Sarah Bragg and Holly Crawshaw interview EJ Swanson (22:09)

    How EJ knew it was time to slow down and focus on local church ministry (27:09)

    One of the benefits of slowing down is getting to know yourself better (29:06)

    Sometimes saying “yes” is taking opportunity, but in saying “no” you can give of yourself instead (31:49)

    Prioritizing engagements based on relationships (35:08)

    As leaders, sometimes we can feel like we’re better at ministry than at being parents or spouses (37:47)

    Practical advice for saying “no” (40:45)

    Our kids and families won’t always be there—slowing down ensures you get to be there for the important moments (43:29)

    Dave’s final thoughts (45:40)

    This new year, make a list of the things you’ll say “no” to (46:17)

    People, Places & Helpful Resources

    The Orange Conference

    Simple Church by Thom S. Rainer and Eric Geiger

    Featured Guests

    E.J. SWANSON

    E.J leads a team of NextGen Pastors and Directors across thirteen campuses at Woodside Bible Church in The Metro Detroit area. Passionate about people, E.J. oversees staff, volunteers, strategies, and leadership development for kids, students, and young adults at Woodside. He continues to speak to over 150,000 students and adults per year.

    E.J. is the founder of IWontWatch.com and Spirituallifeweek.com and is involved in some of America’s, most innovative and fastest-growing ministries. He has shared the stage and toured with many artists including The David Crowder Band, Mercy Me, Hawk Nelson, Shawn McDonald, Matt Maher, Big Daddy Weave, and Building 429. E.J. lives in Troy, MI, with his lovely bride, Abbey, and daughter, Ruth.

    Learn more about E.J. at http://nextgenministry.org/.

    FRANK BEALER

    Frank is the Executive Director of Leadership Development at Orange / The reThink Group and CEO of Phase Family Centers. Prior to Orange he was the Family Pastor at Elevation Church in Charlotte North Carolina where he oversaw family ministry at more than a dozen locations. He recently released his first book, “The Myth of Balance”. Frank is married to Jess and together they have four children.

    Learn more about Frank at https://www.helpingleaderswin.com/.

    Quotes from This Episode

    If you can’t put an end date on the thing that’s causing you to have an extra busy season, it’s your reality—not a season. – @fbealer
    Click To Tweet

    Saying “no” to something always gives you the opportunity to say “yes” to something better. – @ejswanson
    Click To Tweet

    If we’re focused on what we’re missing out on, we can’t focus on what’s next. – @ejswanson
    Click To Tweet

    Ideas to Influence the Next Generation

    Saying “no” isn’t easy. There’s a reason so many books have been written about drawing boundaries and setting priorities. With a little practice and a heap of self-awareness though, each of us has what it takes to slow down and point ourselves in the direction of what matters most.

    Know your limits.

    We all have that person we admire for their ability to get things done. But the reality is, we all have different limitations when it comes to what we can accomplish in a day, week, or season of life. Slowing down will allow you to carefully consider your own personal capacity. And if you’re not sure how to evaluate how much is too much, try talking to those closest to you or maybe check out a personality assessment or strengths indicator for guidance.

    Simplify church-wide.

    Is the reason you feel as though you’re constantly running from thing to thing because you have way too many things on your church calendar? If so, it might be time to meet with your team and discuss which programs it’s time to say “no” to. Sure, this can be difficult to do. But in time, you may discover you’re not the only one relieved by fewer programming items. The volunteers and families you serve will thank you as well. (For strategies on how to do this effectively, check out the book Simple Church by Thom S. Rainer and Eric Geiger.)

    Multiply yourself.

    Relationships matter most, and when it comes to being in ministry, there’s a limit to how many quality relationships you can invest in. While recruiting and training volunteers may sound like a lot of work (and it is), surrounding yourself with a team of well-equipped small group leaders will ultimately save you time and maximize your impact down the road.

    Conversation Starters For Your Church

    What keeps you from saying no (e.g., fear, insecurity, or a desire to feel needed)

    What are a few items you could put on your no list in 2019?

    What’s a role or responsibility you hold that you could equip another leader or volunteer to take the lead on instead?

    Your Hosts

    DAVE ADAMSON

    When he’s not working as a pastor at North Point Ministries in Atlanta, Dave is usually making his family cross their arms, roll their eyes, and tap their feet while he takes “just one more quick photo” on family outings. You’ll also often find him up to his neck in “Jewish stuff” as he researches the cultural context of Jesus for his daily Instagram devotions. Learn more about Dave at daveadamson.tv.

    KACEY LANIER

    Kacey serves as the Director of Inbound Marketing at The reThink Group, Inc.

    Join Us Next Week

    Thank you for listening to the Think Orange Podcast.

    We hope you’ll join us for next week’s episode. More importantly, we hope that when you think next generation, you think Orange.

    Jan 08 2019

    49mins

    Play

    Rank #19: 047: Five Principles for Parenting Beyond Your Capacity (Part 1 of 2)

    Podcast cover
    Read more
    Raising kids isn’t for the faint of heart. There’s bound to be messes, sleepless nights, and questions (oh so very many questions) along the way. The parents in your church and in your community can’t—and shouldn’t have to!—do it alone. Today on The Pod, we’re joined by Carey Nieuwhof, father, pastor, and author of the book Parenting Beyond Your Capacity, as well as Orange’s own Holly Crawshaw, part of our Parent Cue team. Together we begin a conversation on five timeless principles that every parent can use right now. We move from big ideas to practical advice, with a whole lot of personal stories of failure and success mixed in. Welcome to Episode 47 of the Think Orange Podcast!

    Mar 13 2018

    51mins

    Play

    Rank #20: 060: How to Create Big Change with Small Groups

    Podcast cover
    Read more
    Small groups are all about fostering community. As pastors and church leaders, you know that. You’re here to learn how you can help your congregation make the most of small groups. And we’ll get there, no doubt. But first we’ll tackle the hardest truth for leaders to accept: real community starts with you. In today’s show, you’ll hear from Doug Fields, executive director of the HomeWord Center for Youth and Family at Azusa Pacific University, on the private life of a public leader. Then we’ll listen in to a conversation between Holly Crawshaw, Sarah Bragg and Heather Zempel on the big changes you can bring about with small groups. Welcome to Episode 60 of the Think Orange Podcast.

    Jun 12 2018

    58mins

    Play