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Not So Black And White With Sean Palmer and John Alan Turner

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Christianity
Philosophy
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Christian author, speaker, and thinker Sean Palmer and church leadership consultant, author, and speaker John Alan Turner share thought-provoking and provocative conversations, interviews, and reflections on contemporary issues that aren't always so black and white.

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Christian author, speaker, and thinker Sean Palmer and church leadership consultant, author, and speaker John Alan Turner share thought-provoking and provocative conversations, interviews, and reflections on contemporary issues that aren't always so black and white.

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Excellent perspective

By Max qwerty. - Sep 26 2018
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A grounded, theologically sound perspective. I love this show.

A new fave!

By Winner48 - Oct 28 2016
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Great conversation and insight. Thank you!

iTunes Ratings

27 Ratings
Average Ratings
19
5
1
1
1

Excellent perspective

By Max qwerty. - Sep 26 2018
Read more
A grounded, theologically sound perspective. I love this show.

A new fave!

By Winner48 - Oct 28 2016
Read more
Great conversation and insight. Thank you!
Cover image of Not So Black And White With Sean Palmer and John Alan Turner

Not So Black And White With Sean Palmer and John Alan Turner

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Christian author, speaker, and thinker Sean Palmer and church leadership consultant, author, and speaker John Alan Turner share thought-provoking and provocative conversations, interviews, and reflections on contemporary issues that aren't always so black and white.

Rank #1: Episode 036: Scot McKnight Talks About the Holy Spirit

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Sean and John sit down with theologian, writer, and friend of the show Scot McKnight to talk about Scot's newest book, Open To The Spirit: God in Us, God with Us, God Transforming Us. 

This new book is perfect for pastors and teachers engaging their community in a discussion of the Holy Spirit, and accessible for everyday readers ready to go deeper.

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Apr 20 2018
38 mins
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Rank #2: Episode 033: NT Wright Talks Paul

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Sean and John talk with Dr. N.T. Wright, one of the world's foremost theologians, about his work, particularly his new book, "Paul: A Biography."  We also talk translations of the New Testament and what it's like to be NT Wright's pastor.

Paul: A Biography

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Feb 28 2018
43 mins
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Rank #3: Episode 029: Take A Knee?

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In 2016, NFL players (and others) began taking a knew during the Star Spangled Banner in protest of police violence against unarmed black men. A year later, that protest has become conflated with America's military and Veterans? Is that fair? Right? Or is this just Americans turning an important issue into a "political football."

Sean and John discuss the pros, cons, and reasons behind the protest and give you some different ways to think and talk about taking a knee. Stay In Touch:

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Nov 13 2017
1 hour
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Rank #4: Episode 030 When Not If:

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Sean and John outline 8 initial steps churches should take BEFORE and AFTER sexual harassment and assault charges arise in your church. As two men, they are sure there are other important steps they've missed. Listen, then chime in at notsoblackandwhitepod@gmail.com

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John: Blog | Facebook | Twitter

Dec 08 2017
1 hour
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Rank #5: Episode 034: 21 Ministry Lessons in 21 Years Part 1

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Sean and John discuss Sean's first 21-years in local church ministry, what he has learned, what keeps him going, and how you can keep going too. This is the perfect listen whether you're in the midst of struggle or experiencing your best season of ministry.

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John: Blog | Facebook | Twitter

Mar 19 2018
1 hour 11 mins
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Rank #6: Episode 037: Still Me: Difficult Lessons About Life w/ John Alan Turner

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He thought he'd be better at this Christianity thing by now.

All his life, John Alan Turner has wanted to be different, to be better than who he is, to improve. Instead, he helped plant a church that folded within a year. He got divorced. He was diagnosed with depression. His car was rear-ended and totaled, which left him with life-altering injuries. It seemed like the harder he pushed to become the person he was supposed to be, the farther away it fled. And now, here he is after all these years, saying, ''I'm still me.'' Support the Show on Patheos. You don't want to miss these wonderful goodies for very little cost.

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May 20 2018
49 mins
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Rank #7: Episode O32: A Generous Orthodoxy

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Christians are called to practice a "generous orthodoxy." We are called to hold to the Christian tradition while also being open to the ways of a changing (and often improving) world. The problem is that the two sides of the equation inevitably come into conflict. Then we must choose. Sean and John discuss whether and when Christians might choose generosity? Or will we choose orthodoxy? Which will we prioritize? Stay In Touch:

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Dec 22 2017
1 hour 5 mins
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Rank #8: Episode 035: 21 Lessons in 21 Years part 2

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Sean and John continue to discuss Sean's first 21-years in local church ministry, what he has learned, what keeps him going, and how you can keep going too. This one is great whether you're just starting out or need some renewal.

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John: Blog | Facebook | Twitter

Mar 23 2018
1 hour 9 mins
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Rank #9: Episode 040: Should He Stay Or Should He Go

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In November of 2018, missionary John Allen Chau was killed attempting to meet and evangelize people on a remote Indian island. Reflections came strong and swift. But were they right? In this episode, Sean and John look back on the actual events and - now with some distance - suggest some more helpful responses to situations like this one. What could and should Christians do moving forward to avoid this kind of tragedy again? Stay In Touch:

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John: Blog | Facebook | Twitter

Jan 09 2019
37 mins
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Rank #10: Episode 038: Why You Need A Coach

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You can't get where you want to go one your own. We need each other and every one needs a coach. The greatest athletes, actors, musicians and pastors have coaches. Guess what? You can't participate in God's preferred future without some guidance along the way. 

You need a coach. 

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John: Blog | Facebook | Twitter

Jun 14 2018
59 mins
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Rank #11: Episode 039: Is The Church Leadership Model Broken?

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In the wake of the Willow Creek news more and more church leaders are asking pressing questions about whether churches have become too corporate in leadership structure and style. Is that true?

What are good, positive ways for spiritually-formed Christians to lead healthy and whole churches. 

Sean and John talk about what is healthy and unhealthy, good and bad about contemporary church leadership. This is a must-listen.  Stay In Touch:

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Oct 10 2018
58 mins
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Rank #12: Episode 027: Unarmed Empire: In Search of Beloved Community

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Sean and John talk about Sean's new book, Unarmed Empire: In Search of Beloved Community. Sean shares why he wrote the book, what it means for the church, and how to move forward into beloved community. Stay In Touch:

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Sep 15 2017
49 mins
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Rank #13: Episode 025: Rob Bell LOVES the Bible

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Sean and John sit down with best-selling author, provocateur, and Christian thinker, Rob Bell. More than talking about Rob's newest book, WHAT IS THE BIBLE?, Sean, John, and Rob talk ministry in the 21st-Century, what happens when you grow in your understanding of God, burning down the house, wearing the same clothes on tour, the nature of truth, and much much more. 

This is real stuff, not your typical "sell a book" interview with not your typical Christian thinker. What we know is not so black and white.

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May 15 2017
1 hour 5 mins
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Rank #14: Episode 023: Confronting Racism in The Church

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From the Renew Conference in Fresno, CA on March 11, Sean and John talk about race, church, and unity. Hear practical steps to get yourself and your church moving past the racial quagmire. Stay In Touch:

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Mar 19 2017
39 mins
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Rank #15: Episode 022: Fearing the Future

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Sean and John talk about the Falcons' Super Bowl meltdown and what a proper Christian orientation toward time -- future and past -- should look like. Is Christianity a backward looking or forward oriented faith? Is it both?

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Feb 17 2017
1 hour 6 mins
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