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Educational and insightful

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Great podcast with high quality guests and a good mix of education and inspiration

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iTunes Ratings

364 Ratings
Average Ratings
314
25
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5
9

Educational and insightful

By jamespatrickjp - Aug 07 2018
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Great podcast with high quality guests and a good mix of education and inspiration

Great content and delivery!

By timhubbard - Jul 31 2018
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Thanks Michael for putting out such great content and delivering it so well!
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Rank #1: MB 181: Double Your Money Through Passive Investing in Multifamily – With Jan Larson

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What kind of returns can a passive multifamily real estate investor expect? What if you could double your money in just five or six years? And pay little or nothing in the way of taxes?

Jan Larson spent 25 years in the high-stress world of semiconductor development, most recently working for Amazon. He had always been interested in real estate investing but did not want to deal with 3AM phone calls about clogged toilets. Five years ago, a colleague introduced him to a passive investing opportunity, and Jan was hooked. Today, he has invested in 28 multifamily deals involving 34 properties, and in January, Jan had enough passive income to quit his job.

On this episode, Jan joins me to discuss how his life has changed since he quit his job through passive investing in multifamily. He explains how living through the stock market meltdowns in 2000 and 2008 inspired him to diversify with apartment buildings, describing what he loves most about multifamily and sharing the returns passive investors can expect. Listen in for Jan’s advice on how to get started with passive investing and learn how he evaluates deals based on the sponsor and the submarket!

Key Takeaways

How Jan’s life has changed since he quit his job

  • High-pressure work in tech industry
  • Much less stress now

How Jan got started with passive investing

  • Introduced to multifamily by colleague
  • Steady deal flow snowball from there

Why Jan chose real estate over the stock market

  • Lived through meltdown of 2000 + 2008
  • Diversify to reduce exposure to market

What Jan loves about passive investing in multifamily

  • Not binary
  • ‘Set it and forget it’

What allowed Jan to invest in 28 deals in 5 years

  • Liquidated stock investments and Roth IRA
  • Rolled proceeds of sales into other deals

How refinancing a property benefits passive investors

  • % of investment returned (redeploy in new deal)
  • Cash-on-cash return of remaining = 25-30%/year

The returns a passive investor can reasonably expect

  • 8-10% cash-on-cash returns
  • Double money in 5 or 6 years

Jan’s insight around the tax benefits of multifamily

  • Depreciate faster with cost segregation
  • Haven’t paid any taxes on CoC returns

What Jan looks for in a multifamily deal

  • Trustworthy sponsor with track record
  • Submarket in particular + overall market

Jan’s advice for aspiring passive investors

  • Find Meetups to meet sponsors
  • Vet by talking to other investors

Jan’s top takeaway for potential passive investors

  • Multifamily investing gives options

Connect with Jan

Email jan.a.larson@gmail.com

Resources

What’s the Best Investment: The Stock Market or Real Estate?

Nighthawk Equity

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

Michael’s Website

Michael on Facebook

Michael on Instagram

Michael on YouTube

Apartment Investor Network Facebook Group

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Sep 30 2019

27mins

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Rank #2: MB 146: What You Need to Know About Multifamily Financing – With John Brickson

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As multifamily syndicators, we are focused on finding quality deals and raising money. But securing the financing you need can make or break a real estate deal and reaching out to your lender early in the process will save you a great deal of time—and keep you on track to close as planned. So, what do you need to know about multifamily financing?

John Brickson serves as Director at Old Capital, a Dallas firm that specializes in arranging financing for commercial real estate investors across the country. John’s team focuses on $1M to $30M loans on multifamily properties, and in 2017, Old Capital closed more than $750M in loans. John’s market insight and established lender and equity relationships afford his clients a tailored, best-in-class financing solution.

Today, John joins me to offer insight on interest rates in 2019. He explains the difference between working with directly with a lender versus using an intermediary and describes why it’s safer to invest in properties that qualify for Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. John also shares advice around financing smaller deals and covers the pros and cons of taking out a bridge loan. Listen in to understand the most common mistakes investors make when it comes to financing multifamily deals and learn why you should get your lender involved early in the process!

Key Takeaways

John’s insight on interest rates

  • Movement in last quarter of 2018
  • Lock in long-term, fixed rate financing

The difference between direct lenders and intermediaries

  • Direct lender = work with bank to arrange loan on own
  • Intermediary = broker (save time, keep closing on track)

John’s take on the best properties for multifamily investors

  • 5-units and above
  • Stabilized and cashflowing (qualify for Fannie/Freddie)
  • Target loan size $1.5M

John’s advice around financing smaller deals

  • Finance acquisition + rehab with bank loan
  • Increase value of property to >$1M
  • Do cash-out refi within 12 to 24 months

The purpose of a bridge loan

  • Finance acquisition when property not stabilized
  • Sell or cash-out refi with Fannie/Freddie once stabilized

The current terms for bridge loans

  1. Banks: <$5M = 75% LTV, 5.5% (full personal guarantee)
  2. Debt funds: $5-$10M + 80%, 5.5%

The risk associated with bridge loans

  • Shorter term, reach maturity in 2 to 3 years
  • Could be in recession, few lending options for refinancing

The best candidates for bridge loans

  • Investors with significant experience
  • Investors with significant net worth or cash

How lenders handle loan proceeds earmarked for rehab

  • Submit draw request (proof of work complete)
  • Lender pays contractors directly

The most common multifamily financing mistakes

  • Choose yield-maintenance prepay over step-down
  • Fail to think about exit
  • Overlook agency financing options
  • Wait until LOI accepted before reach out to lender

Connect with John

Old Capital

Call (913) 638-8871

Email jbrickson@oldcapitallending.com

Resources

Michael Becker on ABI EP064

Old Capital Podcast

Michael’s Mentoring Program

Real Estate Guys Goal Setting Retreat

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Michael’s Website

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

Feb 01 2019

32mins

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Rank #3: MB 151: Uncovering Off-Market Multifamily Opportunities for Unlimited Deal Flow – With Cory Boatright & Sean Terry

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In a climate where good deals are hard to find, off-market opportunities are key for multifamily investors. But how do you find property owners who might be willing to sell? And once you’ve tracked them down, how do you leverage marketing strategies to get their attention—and inspire them to pick up the phone and call YOU?

Cory Boatright and Sean Terry are experienced single-family wholesalers in the Oklahoma City and Phoenix markets, respectively. Together, the pair stumbled into a multifamily flip that proved challenging. And though they would never do it again, Cory and Sean earned a multiple six-figure profit on the deal. Now, they are pursuing multifamily buy-and-hold as a strategy through Investing Capital Group, a firm focused on finding off-market properties for its capital partners.

Today, Cory and Sean join me to explain how they got involved in a multifamily wholesale deal, discussing what they did right as well as the extreme adversity they faced in route to closing. They share their process for finding off-market deals, offering insight around the resources available for pulling lists of potential sellers and collecting their contact information. Listen in for advice on handling an influx of incoming calls and learn how Cory and Sean leverage unique marketing strategies to earn a 100% direct mail open rate!

Key Takeaways

Cory & Sean’s real estate resumes

  • Cory = wholesaler in OKC since 2013
  • Sean = 15 years as wholesaler in Phoenix

How Cory & Sean stumbled into a multifamily deal

  • Lead on property in AZ, tracked down owner
  • Property under contract direct to seller

What Cory & Sean did right in their multifamily flip

  • Built in extra time (60-day due diligence)
  • Built in extension for $50K

Cory & Sean’s approach to finding a buyer

  • Use ListSource to find potential buyers
  • Send marketing packet via FedEx (delivery notification)

The challenges Cory & Sean faced in route to closing

  • Buyer stalled to postpone nonrefundable date
  • Ramifications of failing to disclose reduction in price

Why the multifamily flip was successful despite the challenges

  • Multiple six-figure profit
  • Learned do’s and don’ts

Cory & Sean’s process for finding off-market deals

  • Pull data from ListSource to find sellers
  • Use Skip Trace Lists for contact info (20¢/record)
  • Cold call, direct mail and target on Facebook

How to handle the influx of incoming calls

  • Hire answering service like PATLive
  • Hire in-house or local staff (build relationships)

Why you can spend more on direct mail for multifamily

  • Fewer leads in particular area
  • Critical to get attention of decision-maker
  • FedEx with signature request = 100% open rate

Connect with Cory & Sean

Investing Capital Group

Real Estate Investing Profits Podcast

Resources

ListSource

Skip Trace Lists

PATLive

CoStar

Dan Kennedy

John Carlton

Michael’s Mentoring Program

Partner with Michael

Invest with Michael

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

Michael on Facebook

Apartment Investor Network Facebook Group

Michael on Instagram

Mar 08 2019

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Rank #4: MB 168: MAKE the Time for Multifamily & Quit Your W-2 Job – With Anna Kelley

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Don’t think you have the time to start investing in multifamily? Anna Kelley is a wife and mother of 4 who worked a demanding full-time job AND built a real estate portfolio on the side, working 82 hours a week for nearly 5 years. She argues that sacrificing your time for a couple of years to buy yourself decades of financial freedom is well worth it. But you’ve got to be willing to take consistent action—even when it’s hard.

Anna is a seasoned real estate investor with a rental portfolio valued at $12.5M. She is also an Amazon bestselling author and sought-after speaker in the realm of buy-and-hold investing, creative financing, vacation rentals, women in real estate, and multifamily investing. Anna has coached several new investors through their first deal, and she is dedicated to educating others on the benefits of multifamily real estate investing.

Today, Anna joins me to discuss how she executed on a 5-year plan to quit her job with real estate investing. She shares her new emphasis on work-life balance, explaining how she is still working hard but making time to focus on her health and family. Anna also offers insight on why she struggled with the decision to quit her job and how that uncertainty inspired her to joint venture and scale up. Listen in for Anna’s advice around finding partners with complementary skills and learn how to MAKE the time to achieve financial freedom!

Key Takeaways

How Anna’s life has changed since quitting her job

  • No less busy (12-hour days to close on 2 properties)
  • 2-week vacation for first time in years

Anna’s new emphasis on work-life balance

  • Consistent time for self-care + focus on health
  • Slow, methodical growth of multifamily business

Why Anna questioned the decision to quit her job

  • Background as financial advisor, predict recession
  • Job at AIG ‘sole lifeboat’ for family through crash

How Anna got started investing in real estate

  • Clients with most money = real estate investors
  • Protectionary investments to cover expenses (2007)
  • Bought small multifamily in 2008 with rest of 401(k)

Anna’s five-year plan to replace her income

  • Refinance 12-units in 3 buildings already owned
  • Line of credit + equity loan to buy foreclosures
  • Research seller financing, buy 4-unit buildings

Anna’s decision to scale up to larger multifamily properties

  • Reached goal to replace income ($5M in assets)
  • Wanted 6 months of expenses for buildings + year of salary
  • Met partners at event, found 73-unit off-market property

Anna’s investing advice for her younger self

  • Still buy small properties for long-term stability
  • Invest with others sooner, focus on finding deals

Anna’s strategic approach to syndicating deals

  • Target properties in 2-hour radius where know market
  • Expand to other markets once comfortable with process

Anna’s advice around joint venturing

  • Find experienced investor with aligned goals
  • Look for someone with complementary skill set

Anna’s insight for aspiring multifamily investors

  • Be prepared for initial investment of time
  • Got for it but be wise in who partner with

Anna’s response to the lack of time argument

  • You make time for what’s really important
  • 82 hours/week for 4 years with few breaks

How Anna got through the difficult times

  • Change way you get there or timeline, not goal itself
  • Develop resilience and do whatever it takes

Connect with Anna

Rei Mom

Anna on Facebook

Creating Wealth Facebook Group

Resources

Deal Maker Live

The Miracle Morning: The Not-So-Obvious Secret Guaranteed to Transform Your Life (Before 8AM) by Hal Elrod

The Miracle Equation: The Two Decisions That Move Your Biggest Goals from Possible, to Probable, to Inevitable by Hal Elrod

Kyle Wilson’s Inner Circle Mastermind

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Turn Your Setbacks into Comebacks by Rick McDaniel

Grant Cardone on School of Greatness EP802

Alan Schnur on Apartment Building Investing EP116

Elite Investors Club

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

Michael’s Website

Michael on Facebook

Michael on Instagram

Apartment Investor Network Facebook Group

Jul 04 2019

42mins

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Rank #5: MB 139: Financial Independence Through Multifamily (One Rental at a Time) – With Michael Zuber

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Let’s say you have a single-family rental that makes you $100 a month. What if you took advantage of a 1031 exchange to purchase a 5-unit building that generates a dramatically higher monthly income of $1K? When Michael Zuber realized the potential cashflow of multifamily investing and the lack of competition in the market for small apartment buildings, his mindset shifted. He went from seeing real estate as a smart place to keep his money to an opportunity to achieve financial independence.

Michael is a full-time real estate investor who specializes in 5- to 20-unit apartment buildings. After 15 years of real estate investing, Michael quit his W-2 job to start One Rental at a Time, a company focused on helping busy professionals begin their own journey to financial freedom. Michael’s goal is to help 1K people learn the fundamentals of real estate investing through his educational platform. He is also the author of the book, 15 Year Journey to Financial Freedom Via One Rental at a Time

Today, Michael joins me to explain how losing six figures in the stock market led him to real estate investing and describe his initial strategy to buy and hold several single-family homes. He discusses his realization around the cashflow potential of small multifamily properties, sharing how he leveraged the 1031 exchange to transition from eight to 80 units in 18 months—right before the crash in 2008. Michael also offers insight around his strategy during the crash, how he is preparing for the likely market correction, and how he might have accelerated his journey to financial freedom. Listen in to understand how Michael opened his mind to multifamily and learn how he can help you through his new platform, One Rental at a Time.

Key Takeaways

How Michael got into real estate

  • Lost six figures in stock market in 48 hours
  • Year of research, bought first house

Michael’s initial real estate plan

  • Wanted security didn’t have w/ W-2 job
  • Buy and hold (while working full-time)

How Michael financed his first deals

  • Put own money down on first three houses
  • Refinanced for capital to buy more
  • Acquired seven houses + duplex

Michael’s transition to multifamily

  • Cashflow potential of small multifamily
  • 1031 all eight houses prior to crash
  • From eight to 80 units in 18 months

The details of Michael’s first multifamily deal

  • Looking for deals on local MLS, Loopnet
  • Found 5-unit through agent relationship

Michael’s mindset shift

  • Assumed multifamily above skill set
  • Little competition in 5- to 20-unit range

Michael’s strategy during the crash

  • Bought everything that made sense
  • Structure of deal most important
  • Solve problems for owners, banks

Why Michael waited to quit his job

  • Ego, identity wrapped up in job
  • Need something to commit to

Michael’s One Rental at a Time YouTube Channel

  • Educate busy professionals on investing
  • Allows to do good and track outcomes

How Michael could have accelerated the process

  • Identify underserved market sooner
  • Raise private money much earlier

How Michael is preparing for the market correction

  • Continue to play in affordable housing
  • Raising cash, selling weaker properties

Michael’s advice for aspiring multifamily investors

  • Get four rentals (two-year timeline)
  • Finance first on own or with partner
  • Track record to raise money for next deal

Connect with Michael

One Rental at a Time on YouTube

Resources

15 Year Journey to Financial Freedom Via One Rental at a Time by Michael Zuber

Loopnet

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Michael’s Website

Michael’s Live Training Webinars

Michael’s Coaching Program

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

Dec 14 2018

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Rank #6: MB 179: Take the Next Step to Financial Freedom with Multifamily – With Mauricio Ramos

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Too many aspiring real estate investors never take action because they’re waiting for the right time, or they’re holding off until they know EVERYTHING about multifamily. Spoiler alert: That’s never going to happen! So, what if you simply got prepared for the next few steps and moved forward?

Mauricio Ramos is Managing Member at de Medici Group, a multifamily investment firm based in San Antonio. He specializes in acquiring underperforming assets that can be repositioned to improve the quality of life for tenants and build wealth for investors. Mauricio spent ten years as a Project Manager in the commercial construction industry before leaving to pursue real estate full-time in 2016. To date, he controls $2M in assets and has a portfolio of 234 units across Texas.

On this episode of the podcast, Mauricio joins me to discuss how his life is different now that he’s a full-time real estate investor. He describes how a desire to travel inspired him to pursue passive income and explains how he got his start in mobile homes and single-family wholesaling. Mauricio also shares the impetus behind his transition to multifamily, offering advice around raising money for syndications. Listen in for creative strategies to find off-market deals and get Mauricio’s insight on taking the first step—and THEN figuring out your next move!

Key Takeaways

How Mauricio’s
life is different now

  • Time freedom (work out during day, walk dogs)
  • Travel and go to seminars like Deal Maker Live

Mauricio’s
background and experience

  • Grew up in Mexico, came to US on student visa
  • 10 years as civil engineer/construction manager

What
inspired Mauricio to pursue passive income

  • Quit job for 40-day backpacking trip
  • Desire for freedom to pursue travel

Mauricio’s
introduction to real estate

  • Colleague introduced to single-family rentals
  • Paid cash for mobile homes, wholesaled SFH

Mauricio’s
first 10-unit multifamily deal

  • Sourced through direct mail campaign in 2017
  • Sold 18 months later for 159% ROI

Why Mauricio
transitioned to multifamily

  • Scalability (10 SFH vs. 10-unit)
  • Able to analyze own deals with SDA

Mauricio’s
second and third multifamily deals

  • Wholesaled 8-unit for 5-figure profit
  • Wholesaled 24-unit for 2X annual W-2 income
  • Used money for mentor, passive investment

Mauricio’s
transition to multifamily syndications

  • Sponsored 16- and 32-unit deals in McAllen
  • Raise money from friends, family and coworkers

Mauricio’s
advice to aspiring syndicators

  • Get educated on SEC compliance
  • Provide opportunity vs. ask for money

What’s next
for Mauricio

  • Expand network with seminars, partnerships
  • Goal to grow 600-unit portfolio in 2020

Mauricio’s
insight on off-market opportunities

  • Lack of creativity rather than deals
  • Rach out to brokers and take first step

How to
proceed without a clear plan

  • Be prepared for next 3 steps
  • Confidence in resourcefulness

Connect with Mauricio

de Medici Group

Email mauricio@demedicigroup.com

Mauricio on Instagram

Multifamily: Invest Differently on Meetup

Resources

Grant Cardone

Deal Maker Live

Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert T. Kiyosaki

The 4-Hour Workweek by Timothy Ferriss

National Real Estate Investor Association

Driving for Dollars on the App Store

Driving for Dollars on Google Play

Syndicated Deal Analyzer

The Ultimate Guide to Buying Apartment Buildings with Private Money

Michael’s Mentorship Program

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

Michael’s Website

Michael on Facebook

Michael on Instagram

Michael on YouTube

Apartment Investor Network Facebook Group

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Sep 16 2019

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Rank #7: MB 138: Syndication vs. Creative Financing for Multifamily Capital – With Jake Stenziano & Gino Barbaro

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While syndication is the most popular way to raise money to fund a multifamily deal, it is not the only option. A resourceful real estate investor can leverage a number of other creative possibilities. Jake Stenziano and Gino Barbaro have built an impressive portfolio without syndicating a single deal, but now they are adding the strategy to their repertoire. What drove them to add ‘investor relations’ to their skill set? In what situation might a different approach, like owner financing, be appropriate? What are the pros and cons of syndication?

Jake and Gino are the co-founders of Jake & Gino, LLC, an educational platform that leverages their expertise in multifamily real estate to help others attain financial freedom by way of apartment building investing. A few short years ago, Jake and Gino were a pizza guy and a drug rep; today, they own 900-plus multifamily units. They share their creative approach on the Wheelbarrow Profits Podcast, and they are the co-authors of the Amazon bestseller, Wheelbarrow Profits: How to Create Passive Income, Build Wealth, and Take Control of Your Destiny Through Multifamily Real Estate Investing.

Today, Jake and Gino join me to explain how they were able to build a portfolio without syndication, discussing the benefits of using community bankers and partnering with high-net-worth individuals. They share the case study of a 281-unit owner-financing deal and describe how good broker relationships can reveal creative financing opportunities. Jake and Gino also address the differences between community bank and agency debt and the value in understanding the story behind every deal. Listen in for insight around why Jake and Gino are adding syndication to their list of options and learn the advantages—and the drawbacks—of syndicating a multifamily deal!

Key Takeaways

The advantage of using community bankers

  • Build in rehab budget
  • Much less cash down (15-20%)

How to address the down payment

  • Partner with high-net-worth individual
  • Do day-to-day operations for equity

Jake & Gino’s owner-financed 281-unit deal

  • No money in, walk away with $150K
  • Facilitated by track record

The right conditions for owner financing

  • Understand seller’s motivation
  • Every deal has own story

Why Jake & Gino are syndicating now

  • Vision to scale requires capital injection
  • Comfortable speaking to investors

The disadvantages of syndication

  • Less equity (10% vs. 30%)
  • More work on front-end
  • Meet projections vs. ‘do right thing’
  • Investors expect liquidity event in year five

The difference between community bank and agency debt

  • ‘Ease of doing business’ with community bank
  • Community bank requires personal guarantee
  • Agency debt = nonrecourse, low interest rates

What surprised Jake & Gino about syndication

  • Timeline once LOI signed
  • Can’t accept $ until docs in place

How Jake & Gino raised money so quickly

  • Position as experts in space
  • Live events (e.g.: investor dinner, meetup)

What’s next for Jake & Gino

  • Continue to look for big deals
  • Grow education platform (book in 2019)

Connect with Jake & Gino

Jake & Gino’s Website

Wheelbarrow Profits Podcast

Jake & Gino on Facebook

Jake & Gino on Instagram

Email gino@jakeandgino.com

Resources

Wheelbarrow Profits: How to Create Passive Income, Build Wealth, and Take Control of Your Destiny Through Multifamily Real Estate Investing by Jake Stenziano and Gino Barbaro

Gino on Apartment Building Investing EP052

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Michael’s Website

Michael’s Live Training Webinars

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

Partner with Michael

Dec 07 2018

35mins

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Rank #8: MB 161: Break into the Multifamily Business with Joint Ventures – With Jens Nielsen

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There are a number of different ways to get your multifamily investing career off the ground. You might choose to buy a small property with your own money or learn the business as a passive investor in a syndication. You could take on the role of syndicator and partner with an experienced team or get in the game as a capital raiser. So, what are the benefits to each of these strategies? Which approach provides the quickest route to financial freedom? And how can you leverage the power of joint ventures to invest in bigger deals early on?

Jens Nielsen is the principal at Open Doors Capital, a private equity firm out of Durango, Colorado, that helps people passively invest in real estate. In just three years, he has raised nearly $1M for multifamily deals and invested in 800-plus apartment units. Jens has a talent for assessing risk and assembling the right team to renovate and operate multifamily properties, and he has utilized a variety of strategies to build an impressive portfolio—while working a full-time job in IT.

Today, Jens joins me to explain how his lack of faith in the stock market led him to develop an entrepreneurial mindset and become a multifamily investor. He walks us through his journey and each of the strategies he utilized, from buying a fourplex on his own to a seller financing deal to raising capital for syndications. Listen in for Jens’ insight around the benefits of getting started through passive investing and learn his unique approach to raising money by way of a joint venture!

Key Takeaways

Jens’ path to multifamily investing

  • Successful career in IT but afraid to count on 401(k)
  • Build passive income streams to secure financial future

How to develop an entrepreneurial mindset

  • Realize idea of job security = myth
  • Get educated and grow risk muscle

Jens’ first real estate deal

  • Bought fourplex in Albuquerque, NM with own money
  • Rehab units + new roof for cashflow of $800/month

How everyone wins in a seller financing deal

  • Lower taxes and interest rate benefits seller
  • Small down payment + monthly payments

Jens’ 38-unit joint venture deal

  • Negotiated price down from $1.6M to $1.2M
  • Sellers came in undercapitalized, losing money
  • Jens halfway through $10K/door renovation

The roles and responsibilities of Jens’ team

  • Jens does underwriting, due diligence and budget
  • Partner focuses on renovations and management

How to shift into the role of raising money for deals

  • Position self as investor and nurture relationships
  • Present deals in logical way and discuss benefits

The advantages of investing in a multifamily syndication

  • Much easier to scale + more reliable return
  • Opportunity to expand influence, network

Jens’ advice for aspiring real estate investors

  • Consider passive investments in bigger deals
  • Be careful about self-managing properties

How to prepare for the role of raising capital for multifamily

  • Surround self with peer group just ahead of you
  • Use team approach to raise money for syndicator

Connect with Jens

Open Doors Capital

Email jens@opendoorscapital.com

Resources

Deal Maker Live

Michael’s Mentoring Program

Invest with Michael

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

Michael’s Website

Michael on Facebook

Apartment Investor Network Facebook Group

Michael on Instagram

May 16 2019

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Rank #9: MB 170: Maximizing ROI in Value-Add Multifamily Deals – With Ira Singer & Marc Rutzen

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Adding value to a multifamily property is what allows us to raise rents and earn a solid ROI. But how do we choose a contractor? As owners, how active should we be in managing the construction itself? What is the property manager’s role in a construction project? How do we know what amenities work in a particular market—and what they’re worth to renters?

Ira Singer is the Principal at Mosaic Construction, a design-build industry leader based in Northbrook, Illinois. Mosaic provides best-in-class renovation, remodeling and building services for multifamily, residential and commercial property owners and managers. Marc Rutzen is the CEO of Enodo, a machine learning platform that analyzes multifamily investments and calculates the ROI on value-add amenities.

Today, Ira and Marc join me to discuss the ins and outs of doing a value-add multifamily deal. Ira explains how the owner, property manager and contractor work together on a large-scale construction project, sharing the integral role communication plays in the process. Marc describes how amenity pricing varies by market and weighs in on the trend to offer services like pet daycare and credit card payments. Listen in for insight around making value-add choices that will allow you to increase rents, decrease operating costs, and boost your ROI overall!

Key Takeaways

The role a construction company plays in acquiring property

  • Site visit, bring architect if necessary
  • Discuss scope of work + lend eye as ‘building inspector’

The owner’s role in overseeing a construction project

  • Review daily updates (photos + written explanation)
  • Make important decisions

The property manager’s role in a construction project

  • Provide access and notify residents
  • Communicate with onsite project manager

How to approach large-scale value-add projects

  1. Empty building for full unit makeovers
  2. Two-day refresh of occupied units

Ira’s advice on hiring and managing a contractor

  • Develop relationship with construction partner
  • Monitor progress with strong communication

What construction gone wrong looks like

  • Failed inspections
  • Poor communication, execution

Ira’s insight around how to increase ROI

  • Pay attention to building envelope
  • Solid roof, gutters, windows and doors

Ira’s tips for reducing expenses on a property

  • Maintenance-free siding and windows
  • Efficient HVAC system, insulation in attics

How amenity pricing varies by market

  • Rooftop deck $32 nationally, $45 in Miami
  • Pool $30 in Miami, $50 in Chicago

The trend toward offering services

  • Pet daycare and dog walking
  • Storage (e.g.: package lockers, bikes)
  • Accepting credit card payments

Connect with Ira

Mosaic Construction

ira@mosaicconstruction.net

Connect with Marc

Enodo

marc@enodoinc.com

Resources

Deal Maker Live

Save Water Co

National Apartment Association

CoStar

Partner with Michael

Michael’s Mentoring Program

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

Michael’s Website

Michael on Facebook

Michael on Instagram

Apartment Investor Network Facebook Group

Jul 18 2019

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Rank #10: MB 157: Achieving Financial Freedom as a Passive Investor in Multifamily – With Doug Marshall

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So, you want to achieve financial freedom with real estate investing, but you’re a busy person with a demanding job and a lot of responsibility. You don’t have time to learn the ins and outs of putting together an advisory team, finding a good deal, or making decisions about the financing and management of a property. The fact is, you can STILL enjoy the benefits of real estate investing by becoming a passive investor in a multifamily syndication!

Doug Marshall is the founder and president of Marshall Commercial Funding, a firm dedicated to helping clients get the best possible financing for their rental properties. Doug has 36 years of experience as a mortgage broker, and he received his CCIM designation in 1999. His journey into passive investing began 10 years ago, and to date, he has invested in 11 properties—8 of which were apartment buildings. Doug is also the author of Mastering the Art of Commercial Real Estate Investing:  How to Build Wealth & Grow Passive Income from Your Rental Properties.

Today, Doug joins me to discuss how he achieved financial freedom through passive investing in commercial real estate. He describes the difference between an active and passive investor, sharing his goals as a passive investor and the characteristics of an ideal candidate for passive investing.  Doug also offers insight around his preference for multifamily over other asset classes and explains how to calculate the amount you need to invest for a particular cash-on-cash return. Listen in to understand the incredible tax benefits of real estate investing and get Doug’s take on the #1 thing passive investors should consider before handing their money over to a syndicator.

Key Takeaways

Doug’s path to financial freedom with passive investing

  • 20 years living paycheck to paycheck
  • Went into business for self as mortgage broker (3X income)
  • Partnered with client as passive investor

The difference between active and passive investing

  • Active investors make ALL decisions (team, management)
  • Passive investors decide WHO to trust to achieve returns

Why Doug prefers multifamily over other asset classes

  • Vacancies have less impact on returns
  • Low vacancy rates during recession (5-10%)

The advantages of multifamily real estate investing

  • Deferment of capital gains taxes
  • Generates cashflow
  • Opportunity to buy below market
  • Depreciation limits income taxes
  • Leverage properties to amplify return

Doug’s goals as a passive investor in multifamily

  • No hassle of day-to-day decision-making
  • Cashflow + upside appreciation
  • Financial freedom (family trip to Scotland)

The ideal candidate for passive real estate investing

  • Made good money over lifetime
  • Desire to generate passive income

How to calculate the right amount to invest for retirement

  • Living expenses minus social security benefits
  • Cover difference with cash-on-cash return

The cash-on-cash return Doug looks for in a property

  • 4-5% from start with value-add opportunity
  • Up to 8% once improvements made

The most important considerations for passive investors

  • WHO to invest with (vet syndicator for integrity)
  • WHAT asset class to invest in

Connect with Doug

Marshall Commercial Funding

Mastering the Art of Commercial Real Estate Investing: How to Successfully Build Wealth & Grow Passive Income from Your Rental Properties by Doug Marshall

Resources

Deal Maker Live

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

Michael’s Website

Michael on Facebook

Apartment Investor Network Facebook Group

Michael on Instagram

Apr 19 2019

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Rank #11: MB 159: Work Less & Make More as a Passive Investor in Multifamily – With Paul Moore

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The real world is not HGTV. If you are a high-earner looking to get into the real estate game, it is important to understand just how much work is involved in being an active investor. There is a lot of competition in the space, and good deals are hard to find. Add to that the complexities of managing a rental portfolio, for example, and the headache may seem like more than it’s worth. But why work harder than necessary to make less than you could? You can take advantage of all the benefits of commercial real estate investing as a passive investor, letting an expert handle the minutiae while you reap the rewards.

Paul Moore is the Founder and Managing Director at Wellings Capital, a commercial real estate investment firm that focuses on self-storage, mobile home parks, and multifamily property. Paul has 18 years of experience in real estate: He has flipped 50-plus homes and 25 high-end waterfront lots, appeared on HGTB’s House Hunters, rehabbed and managed rental properties, built new homes, and developed a subdivision. Paul is also the author of The Perfect Investment: Create Enduring Wealth from the Historic Shift to Multifamily Housing and cohost of the wealth-building podcast How to Lose Money.

Today, Paul joins me to discuss the advantages of commercial real estate over stocks, bonds and mutual funds. He shares the challenges of being an active investor, explaining why high-earning professionals might be happier as passive investors in commercial assets like apartment buildings, self-storage facilities, or mobile home parks. Paul also offers insight around the commercial value formula, describing how operators can force appreciation with simple strategies to increase a property’s income or compress its cap rate. Listen in to understand the extraordinary tax advantages of multifamily real estate and learn what makes commercial investing an attractive option for high-net-worth individuals looking for a consistent return and minimal risk profile.

Key Takeaways

The pros and cons of stocks, bonds + mutual funds

  • Long track record of growth, great liquidity
  • Highly unpredictable

The pros and cons of commercial real estate

  • Not at all liquid
  • Stability, predictability for long term

The challenges of being an active investor

  • Hard to find good deals + be profitable
  • Time consuming to run large SFH portfolio

The commercial value formula

  • Value = net operating income/cap rate
  • Increase income or compress cap rate to force appreciation

Simple things operators can do to increase income

  • Rental space for trailers, RVs + boats in mobile home park
  • Professional property management in apartment building

Simple things operators can do to compress the cap rate

  • Franchise group of self-storage facilities, find right buyer
  • Multifamily value-add from C+ to B and refinance

The tax advantages of commercial real estate investing

  • Accelerate depreciation via cost segregation study
  • Bonus depreciation (up to $1M) + QREP write-offs

Wellings Capital’s strategy moving forward

  • Expand to self-storage, mobile home parks via partnerships
  • Wellings brings equity and partner-operator finds deal

Connect with Paul

Wellings Capital

How to Lose Money Podcast

Paul on BiggerPockets

The Perfect Investment: Create Enduring Wealth from the Historic Shift to Multifamily Housing by Paul Moore

Resources

Deal Maker Live

The Real Estate Guys

Paul Moore on ABI EP058

10 AMAZING Tax Benefits for Real Estate Investors

Michael on HTLM EP019

Michael on HTLM EP132

Tax-Free Wealth: How to Build Massive Wealth by Permanently Lowering Your Taxes by Tom Wheelwright

Nighthawk Equity

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

Michael’s Website

Michael on Facebook

Apartment Investor Network Facebook Group

Michael on Instagram

May 03 2019

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Rank #12: MB 162: Quit Your Job & Control Your Own Destiny with Multifamily – With Danny Randazzo

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Close your eyes and imagine for a moment how it would feel to quit your W-2 job. Imagine having the freedom to control your own time—and financial destiny. Imagine having the passive income to cover your expenses and provide for your family long-term, without being stuck in those golden handcuffs. If you’re dreaming of handing in a letter of resignation, then multifamily real estate investing may offer the ideal solution.

Danny Randazzo is an author, entrepreneur and full-time real estate investor. He has a background as a financial consultant, advising multibillion-dollar companies in improving revenue performance, but Danny’s ambition to achieve financial freedom led him to move from the Bay Area to Charleston, South Carolina, and build an impressive real estate portfolio with his wife, Caitlin. Now, Danny and his team control $130M in multifamily properties across the country, and he is focused on helping others invest passively in apartment buildings.

Today, Danny joins me to discuss his transition from W-2 employee to full-time real estate investor. He reflects on his decision to move to a market ripe for growth and the impetus behind his pivot to focus fully on multifamily. Danny also offers advice around raising money for syndications, ensuring alignment of interests with potential partners, and leveraging joint ventures to scale your business. Listen in for insight on making the decision to quit your job and pursue real estate full-time and learn why multifamily is the most direct route to financial freedom!

Key Takeaways

How Danny feels about quitting his job

  • Corporate job no longer providing what family needs
  • Joy in controlling own time and financial destiny

Danny’s transition from employee to full-time investor

  • Good personal financial position
  • 100% focus to take real estate business next level

How Danny got into real estate

  • House hack with extra money from working in UAE
  • Decision to move to Charleston, SC (ripe for growth)

Danny’s pivot to focus on apartment buildings

  • Benefits in terms of scalability, occupancy protection
  • Grew portfolio to control $130M in multifamily

Danny’s guidance around raising money for deals

  • Use own equity nest egg for proof of concept
  • Educate + share opportunities to invest in real estate

The benefits of passive investing in multifamily

  1. Cashflow
  2. Future equity appreciation
  3. Tax advantages

The role of joint ventures in scaling your business

  • Allows for creativity in how do deals
  • Work together to achieve greater results

Danny’s top real estate lessons learned

  • Alignment of interests with partner’s wants + needs
  • Find solutions with help from network

Danny’s advice for aspiring investors on quitting your job

  • Get clear on financial needs + goals
  • Do math on # of properties to cover expenses

What Danny is excited about moving forward

  • Several multifamily deals in pipeline
  • Vacation to South Africa with wife

Connect with Danny

Passive Investing

Randazzo Capital

Danny’s Blog

The Boy Who Lost His Wallet (Wealth Lessons for Kids) by Danny Randazzo

Resources

Rich Dad Poor Dad: What the Rich Teach Their Kids About Money That the Poor and Middle Class Do Not by Robert T. Kiyosaki

Commercial Investing Books by Dolf de Roos

Tom Wheelwright on ABI EP127

Grant Cardone

The Miracle Morning: The Not-So-Obvious Secret Guaranteed to Transform Your Life (Before 8AM) by Hal Elrod

Deal Maker Live

Michael’s Products

Michael’s Mentoring Program

Invest with Michael

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Podcast Show Notes

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Michael’s Website

Michael on Facebook

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Apartment Investor Network Facebook Group

May 23 2019

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Rank #13: MB 172: Building an Investor Pipeline for Multifamily Syndications – With Kyle Mitchell

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Once you get a multifamily deal under contract, the clock starts ticking. You have limited time to raise capital, so it’s super-important that you’ve already built relationships with potential investors and have a database to call on. But how do you transition from simply talking to people about the opportunity to invest with you to building a formal pipeline of truly interested investors?

Kyle
Mitchell is Managing Partner at Limitless Estates, a
multifamily firm investing in the Phoenix and Tucson markets. He started
investing in single-family in 2015, building a $1M portfolio of nine properties
in Illinois, Ohio and Arkansas, before quitting his W-2 job to pursue
multifamily in 2018. Within two months of going all-in on apartment buildings,
Kyle landed a 42-unit deal, and he is currently negotiating a $15M 128-unit
deal. Kyle is also the host of the Passive Income Through
Multifamily Real Estate Investing Podcast
.

Today,
Kyle joins me to explain his decision to quit his 9-to-5 before he had a
multifamily deal, discussing the benefits of going full-time and the way he got
brokers to take him seriously. He shares the details of his first multifamily syndication,
describing how he raised $1M in 60 days and why he had to switch lenders late
in the process. Listen in for
Kyle’s advice around finding a mentor and building your team—and get his
blueprint for building an investor database for multifamily syndications!

Key Takeaways

Why Kyle
quit his job before he had a multifamily deal

  • Savings and wife’s income made possible to go
    all-in
  • Accelerate progress after 10 months building
    pipeline

How Kyle and
his wife’s goals were in alignment

  • Already investing in SFH, did SDA course
    together
  • Goal to become entrepreneurs + control time

Kyle’s
insight on the benefits of going full-time

  • Ability to visit markets more often
  • Brokers take more seriously

How Kyle got
brokers to take him seriously

  • Build relationships over 6 months (persistence)
  • Meetup, newsletter and podcast
  • Mentorship and coaching

Kyle’s first
multifamily deal

  • 42-unit property near U of A in Tuscon
  • Mismanaged by SFH property manager

When Kyle
started raising money

  • Building investor list for 10 months before
  • Webinar after signed, $1M raise in 60 days

How Kyle
built his investor database

  • Leads from podcast, newsletter + meetup
  • One-on-one meetings to determine interest

How Kyle
overcame objections re: lack of track record

  • Professional experience in management
  • Real estate license and SFH portfolio
  • Coaches, education, mentors + partners

Kyle’s
insight on the Law of the First Deal

  • LOI for second property within 3 weeks
  • $15M 128-unit deal with same partners

Kyle’s
advice for aspiring multifamily investors

  1. Double number of investors
  2. Always be raising money
  3. Be transparent with lender
  4. Set up team in advance

Kyle’s
blueprint for following in his footsteps

  • Find mentor that fits goals
  • Define goals + take action
  • Build partnerships

Connect with Kyle

Limitless Estates

Passive Income Through Multifamily Real Estate Investing Podcast

Email kmitchell@limitless-estates.com

Resources

Uganda Counseling and Support Services

MailChimp

Michael’s Ultimate Guide Course

Michael’s Mentorship Program

Syndicated Deal Analyzer and Sample Deal Package

Nighthawk Equity

Deal Maker Live

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

Michael’s Website

Michael on Facebook

Michael on Instagram

Apartment Investor Network Facebook Group

Aug 01 2019

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Rank #14: MB 145: Luring Passive Investors to Raise Money for Multifamily – With Tim Bratz

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When you hunt, the prey runs away. But when you fish, you simply put a lure in the water and let the fish come to you. Tim Bratz likens raising private money to fishing: You provide value through education and intentional conversation—and then wait for the investors to come to you.

Tim is the owner of CLE Turnkey, a real estate investment firm focused on apartment buildings, vacation rentals and other commercial properties in Ohio, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida and Texas. His current portfolio consists of 2K units with a value of over $100M. Tim also offers coaching and mentoring through Commercial Empire.

Today, Tim joins me to explain how working as a commercial broker sparked his interest in investing and share the story of buying his first property—with a credit card! He discusses his transition from flipping, wholesaling and single-family rentals to multifamily buy-and-holds as well as his mindset shift around hiring a team. Listen in to understand the current opportunity around raising capital for multifamily and learn Tim’s approach to luring passive investors rather than chasing them.

Key Takeaways

How Tim got interested in real estate investing

  • Worked as commercial agent in NYC
  • Ran numbers on landlord’s profit

How Tim bought his first duplex on a credit card

  • Asked for $100K credit limit, received $15K
  • Flipped property in 75 days for $13K profit

Tim’s transition to multifamily buy-and-hold

  • Connected with investors ($1M to work with)
  • Found 8-unit building in C-class area
  • Apartments scalable, financing easier
  • Portfolio of 2,000 units in 42 months

Why raising capital is the best use of your time

  • Finance commands all other industries
  • ‘Control the money, control the deal’

Tim’s mindset shift around building a team

  • Hesitant to hire assistant for $35K/year
  • Revenue increase from $100K to $400K/year

The activities Tim outsourced first

  • Dry cleaning, car wash, post office, etc.
  • Marketing and inspections

Tim’s first six-figure hires

  • COO, CLO = engines that run business
  • $48K salary + profit share based on role

The current opportunity around raising money

  • Uncertainty in market, volatility
  • Shift from stocks to hard assets

Why multifamily is the safest investment

  • More control than stock market
  • Limited risk in B, C+ properties
  • Invest for cashflow vs. speculation

Tim’s approach to potential passive investors

  • Educate around opportunities (e.g.: self-directed IRA)
  • Fish rather than hunt, intentional conversations

What investors are looking for

  • Collateral and ROI
  • Credibility, fortitude

Connect with Tim

Tim on Facebook

CLE Turnkey

Commercial Empire

Resources

Invest with Michael

The Ultimate Guide to Buying Apartment Buildings with Private Money

Michael’s Mentoring Program

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Michael’s Website

Podcast Show Notes

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Jan 25 2019

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Rank #15: MB 169: Burning the Boats to Go All-In on Multifamily – With Jerome Myers

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A lot of aspiring investors hesitate to leave the security of a high-paying job to pursue real estate. And very few are brave enough to quit their 9-to-5 and go all-in on multifamily investing without a few deals to their credit and the cashflow to cover their living expenses. Burning the boats is not for everyone, but Jerome Myers had a financial runway, and he’d had it with corporate America. So, he walked away from a six-figure engineering position to make his dreams real.

Jerome is the Managing Director of The Myers Development Group, a real estate investment firm on a mission to build a portfolio of 1,000 units and free 100 people from work they aren’t passionate about. Jerome quit his corporate job to pursue real estate in 2017, and since then, he has joint ventured on several multifamily deals and is in the process of syndicating a 112-unit development deal in Greensboro, North Carolina, known as Technology Row. He is also the Chief Inspiration Officer for Dreamcatchers, a podcast featuring ordinary people doing extraordinary things.

Today, Jerome joins me to explain what motivated him to quit his corporate job and go all-in on multifamily—before he’d done a single deal! He shares his struggle to land that first property with no track record and offers insight into his experience with the phenomenon I call The Law of the First Deal. Jerome also describes the differences between joint venturing and syndicating, discussing why he prefers partnering but understands the need to engage LPs as you scale. Listen in for Jerome’s advice around leveraging a coach to fast-track your success and get inspired by his ‘dreams should be real’ philosophy for pursuing what you love.

Key Takeaways

Why Jerome quit his job before he had a deal

  • Never right time, tired of golden handcuffs excuse
  • Frustrated with inhumanity of corporate America

Jerome’s struggle to land his first multifamily deal

  • Banks wouldn’t lend without experience
  • Fix and flips to build reputation

How Jerome finally landed his first apartment deal

  • Joint venture with team of four
  • Added experienced property manager

Jerome’s experience with The Law of the First Deal

  • Opened doors, bankers + brokers lined up
  • Viewed as expert and treated differently

Jerome’s second multifamily deal

  • Closed on 28-unit in Greensboro within 6 months
  • Blowing revenue projections out of water

Jerome’s advice around partnering

  • Know who you’re teaming up with
  • Vet property manager carefully

The difference between partnering and syndicating

  • Joint venture partners bet on YOU
  • Syndicators interested in track record + returns

Jerome’s ‘dreams should be real’ philosophy

  • Society encourages mediocrity, fitting in
  • Leverage real estate to pursue passions
  • Do good in community + do well for investors

Jerome’s advice for aspiring multifamily investors

  • Get a coach to fast-track success
  • Joint venture + add value to team

Jerome’s insight on ‘burning the boats’

  • Get financially fit before quit job
  • If you’re going to do it, do it

Connect with Jerome

Myers Development Group

Dreamcatchers Podcast

Resources

CASHFLOW Game

Deal Maker Live

Nighthawk Equity

Michael’s Mentoring Program

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

Michael’s Website

Michael on Facebook

Michael on Instagram

Apartment Investor Network Facebook Group

Jul 11 2019

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Rank #16: MB 141: Under the Hood of Asset Management for Multifamily Syndicators – With Drew Kniffin

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In a perfect world, we could syndicate a multifamily property and then sit back and wait for the checks to roll in. But in the real world, we must oversee the apartment buildings we’ve purchased and make sure they perform according to plan. What all is involved in asset management? What is the best way to communicate with investors? And how does your property manager’s competence impact the amount of work that falls to you?

Drew Kniffin is the President of Nighthawk Equity, a firm committed to helping real estate investors achieve financial freedom through practical education and high-quality multifamily investment opportunities. Drew became an ‘accidental landlord’ in 2008 when he was unable to sell his condo and rented it instead. But it wasn’t until 2015 that Drew shifted his focus to small apartment buildings. Eight months and three deals later, he was able to quit his job and pursue real estate full-time. Now, Drew helps manage a 1K-unit portfolio through Nighthawk, and he also serves as a mentor with The Michael Blank organization.

Today, Drew joins me to share his definition of asset management and explain the syndicator’s role in finding problems to solve during the acquisition process. He describes the significance of a good property manager, discussing how to gauge if a property manager is the right fit, what you should expect from a property manager, and how replace a property manager if necessary. Drew also covers reporting, offering insight around the level of detail to expect from your property manager as well as the key performance indicators a syndicator should monitor. Listen in for Drew’s advice on communicating with investors and learn what aspects of asset management can be outsourced as you scale!

Key Takeaways

Drew’s definition of asset management

  • What you do once bought property
  • Make sure performs according to plan

What to look for in the acquisition process

  • Capable, competent property manager
  • Problems that can be solved

How to find a good property manager

  • Ask for stabilized profit and loss projections
  • Learn how report, communicate with owners

What makes for a great property manager

  • Execute on marketing property, managing to budget
  • Less than 10 minutes/month to review financials

The reasonable expectations for a property manager

  • Online listings, ads competent
  • Changes made first time asked
  • Interested in communicating

The fundamentals of reporting

  • Consult with bookkeeper, accountant re: details
  • Know investors, report to desired level of detail

How to determine if a property manager is not the right fit

  • Micromanaging on smaller level as time goes on
  • Change after 2 months if ‘managing the manager’

The key performance indicators to monitor

  1. Net occupancy
  2. Punch list items
  3. Actual vs. budget

How to keep a property manager honest

  • Require plan to deliver on budget
  • Quarterly audits

Drew’s advice on replacing a property manager

  • Transition in middle of month
  • Know what files need to transfer (e.g.: rent rolls, leases)
  • Don’t use 30-day earn-out, bring in new team on Day 1

The fundamentals of investor relations

  • Deliver ongoing communication (monthly report)
  • Provide high-level qualitative and financial summary

How to communicate with investors when things go wrong

  • Build long-term trust by delivering bad news
  • Be honest but have plan and follow up

The value in uniformity of reporting as you scale

  • Standardization affords control
  • Software streamlines format, provides investor portal

How syndicators should spend their time

  1. Raising money
  2. Finding deals
  3. Operations/systems

The asset management tasks that VAs can do

  • Keep investor information current
  • End-of-month reporting

Connect with Drew

Nighthawk Equity

Drew at Michael Blank Mentorship

Resources

Drew Kniffin on ABI EP027

The Financial Freedom Summit

The Michael Blank Deal Desk

Google Sheets

Upwork

Jing

Loom

Invest with Michael

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Michael’s Website

Michael’s Live Training Webinars

Michael’s Coaching Program

Podcast Show Notes

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Dec 28 2018

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Rank #17: MB 158: The Danger in Using Your IRA to Invest in Multifamily – With Damion Lupo

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Are you using your IRA to invest in a multifamily syndication? Then brace yourself for an unexpected tax bill when the asset sells. If, on the other hand, you’d prefer not to owe the IRS for Unrelated Business Income Tax (or UBIT), it’s time to consider a Qualified Retirement Plan (or QRP) that gives you more control over your money and makes it much easier to invest in real estate!

Damion Lupo is a real estate investor, serial entrepreneur, and high-profile financial consultant. He founded Total Control Financial in 2010 to help people achieve financial freedom. He is committed disrupting Wall Street and empowering Main Street with the tools and teachings of financial transformation. In the last 25 years, Damion has launched and owned 40-plus companies, including a venture capital firm, an insurance agency, and more than a dozen real estate investment and development operations. He is also the author of QRP Book: How to Get Checkbook Control of Your 401(k) & IRA Money Now.

Today, Damion joins me to explain why the current retirement system is broken and discuss the problem with using your IRA to invest in multifamily real estate. He walks us through the fundamentals of UBIT, describing how you can be blindsided by a BIG tax bill when an asset sells.  Damion also offers insight around the alternative to the IRA that is exempt from UBIT, the QRP. Listen in to understand the multiple benefits of the QRP as a retirement vehicle—and learn how to regain control of your retirement savings AND maximize your profits as a multifamily investor.

Key Takeaways

Why the retirement system is broken

  • Hand $ to someone else + hope for best
  • Better to create own wealth

The shortcomings of the 401(k)

  • No control over money, high fees
  • Limits around what invest in

The problems with the IRA

  • Hit with taxes if invest in syndications
  • Pay unlimited fees to custodians

The fundamentals of UBIT

  • 35% tax on profit from debt
  • Hit with UBIT when asset sells

How to avoid UBIT

  • Move asset into QRP (in-kind rollover)

The benefits of the QRP

  • Ability to control own money
  • Higher contribution limits (up to $50K)
  • Borrow up to $50K to invest in self
  • No custodian = much lower fees
  • No third party for paperwork

Short- vs. long-term real estate investments

  • Short-term investments need tax shelter like QRP
  • Don’t put long-term investments in retirement account

When it’s worth it to get a QRP

  • Cost between $1500—$6K (depends on # of employees, companies)
  • Makes sense even for $50K investment

Connect with Damion

Damion’s Website

QRP Book: How to Get Checkbook Control of Your 401(k) & IRA Money Now by Damion S. Lupo

Resources

The Real Estate Guys

Deal Maker Live

Hal Elrod

Damion Lupo on ABI EP079

Tom Wheelwright

Michael’s Mentoring Program

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

Podcast Show Notes

Review the Podcast on iTunes

Michael’s Website

Michael on Facebook

Apartment Investor Network Facebook Group

Michael on Instagram

Apr 26 2019

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Rank #18: MB 175: Leveraging Hustle & Heart to Find Off-Market Deals – With Logan Freeman

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Good deals are so hard to find right now! That’s become a common complaint among real estate investors in recent months, but I’m not convinced it’s true. In fact, if you’re willing to hustle and approach brokers with a service-first mindset, it’s fairly easy to find off-market multifamily deals.

Logan Freeman is a commercial real estate agent, investor, developer and capital raiser. He is also the founder of LiveFree Investments, a Kansas City firm specializing in joint ventures and equity partnerships that provides strong returns on capital from secure investments. Logan got his start in real estate doing a live-in flip back in 2013, and since then, he has completed 80-plus transactions and earns $13M for his investors annually.

Today, Logan joins me to explain why he was dreaming about real estate—even as he was being drafted for the NFL! He discusses the niche he has developed representing buyers and building his own portfolio, describing how he builds credibility with brokers by solving problems and adding value. Listen in for Logan’s What if? approach to real estate networking and learn how he is hustling to find off-market deals for his clients—and himself!

Key Takeaways

Logan’s path to real estate

  • Drafted for NFL but didn’t make team
  • Work to earn master’s degree (265 calls/day)
  • Learn self-worth not tied to outcomes

Logan’s introduction to real estate

  • Friends’ dads as mentors, owned rentals
  • Find way ‘to make money while you sleep’

How Logan got started in real estate

  • Live-in flips while working as consultant
  • Acquisitions for boutique investment firm

What inspired Logan’s transition to multifamily

  • Spreads starting to shrink in KC market
  • Decision to work smarter, not harder

Logan’s status as the go-to guy when people need to sell

  • Need in market to match buyers with properties
  • Source off-market deals via broker relationships

How Logan gets brokers to take him seriously

  • Build trust by solving problems
  • Don’t ask for fee (earn through buyers)
  • Underwrite properties + send feedback
  • Partner as necessary for track record
  • ‘Network your tail off’

What Logan’s excited about moving forward

  1. Creative strategies to buy off-market properties
  2. Marketing tactics to build personal brand
  3. Co-GP on self-storage, mobile home parks

Connect with Logan

LiveFree Investments

Resources

Nighthawk Equity

Rich Dad Poor Dad: What the Rich Teach Their Kids About Money That the Poor and Middle Class Do Not by Robert T. Kiyosaki

TalentSmart

StrengthsFinder

Syndicated Deal Analyzer

Berkadia

Block Real Estate Services

CBRE Kansas City

David Goggins

CCIM

Stephen Covey

Mauricio Rauld

Be in the Top 1%: A Real Estate Agent’s Guide to Getting Rich in the Investment Property Niche by Bob Helms

Michael Becker

Loom

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

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Apartment Investor Network Facebook Group

Aug 22 2019

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Rank #19: MB 174: Put Your Money in Motion with Passive Investing – With Ryan McKenna

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If you make good money, and you want to make it work for you, passive investing in multifamily syndications may be a perfect fit. But what are the benefits of apartment investing compared to the stock market? How do you choose an operator you can trust? What happens if there’s an economic downturn? Can you really achieve financial freedom with passive investing?

Ryan McKenna is the founder of McKenna Capital, a private equity firm that helps investors build long-term wealth through value-add multifamily, self-storage and manufactured home park investments. Ryan has invested in 30-plus real estate and business syndications worth more than $600M, and his current portfolio includes 7,800 units in markets across the country. Ryan’s role at McKenna Capital involves overseeing acquisitions, capital raising efforts, investor relations and asset management.

Today,
Ryan joins me to explain why he chose the path of passive investing and discuss
what drew him to multifamily over other investment options. He shares the generous
tax benefits of multifamily syndications, offering a high-level overview of how
to leverage the cost segregation analysis to accelerate depreciation. Listen in
for Ryan’s insight on
how to vet an operator and learn how to put your money in motion and achieve
financial freedom as a passive investor!

Key Takeaways

How Ryan got
started in real estate

  • Learned about multifamily syndications in college
  • Used Rich Dad… as blueprint for financial freedom

Why Ryan
chose passive over active investing

  • Enjoyed work in corporate world
  • Found good operating partners with track record

Why Ryan
chose multifamily over other investment options

  • 16-20% annual return, 8-9% cash-on-cash return
  • Generous tax benefits, predictable in downturn

The beauty
of the multifamily cash out refinance

  • Get back 100% of money plus cashflow
  • Redeploy in another deal for additional income

A high-level
overview of the cost segregation study

  • Accelerates depreciation on parts of property
  • Big tax advantages up front (huge taxable loss)

Ryan’s
advice for aspiring passive investors

  • Reach out to people already doing it, ask Q’s
  • Diversify in multiple markets, operating
    partners

How Ryan
vets a multifamily operator

  • Look for character, integrity and trust
  • Communication style + transparency
  • Track record (execute on business plan)

Ryan’s
insight on waiting until after a downturn

  • Money in bank losing value with inflation
  • ‘Bad deal’ still returns 8 to 12% + tax benefits

Ryan’s
timeline to financial freedom for passive investors

  • Invest $100K per year for 5 years
  • Passive income stream of $140K

How Ryan’s
life has changed now that he’s financially free

  • More time with family, lifestyle by design
  • Passionate about real estate (full-time
    syndications)

Ryan’s
transition from passive to active investing

  • Co-syndicating deals as part of general
    partnership
  • Raise capital, introduce investors into
    multifamily

Connect with Ryan

McKenna Capital

Resources

Deferred Sales Trust on ABI EP166

What’s the Best Investment: The Stock Market or Real Estate?

Rich Dad Poor Dad: What the Rich Teach Their Kids About Money That the Poor and Middle Class Do Not by Robert T. Kiyosaki

Nighthawk Equity

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

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Apartment Investor Network Facebook Group

Aug 15 2019

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Rank #20: MB 164: The Doability of Real Estate Investing – With Bob Helms

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‘Don’t be afraid. This is totally doable.’

Of all the people who are exposed to real estate on a regular basis, very few take action to become investors themselves. If awareness is not the problem, then what is? Why do so few real estate agents, for example, seek out opportunities to work with investors or partner to buy properties of their own? Why do so many of us attend REIA meetings month after month—without taking the next step?

Known as The Godfather of Real Estate, Bob Helms has been investing since 1957. He became a practicing broker in 1980 and spent 18 years working as a father-son team with his son, Robert, of Real Estate Guys fame. In his long and storied career, Bob has owned, managed, bought and sold hundreds of properties. He has been a top-producing agent, respected managing broker, and mentor to hundreds of leading agents and investors. Bob is a regular contributor to Real Estate Guys Radio and a featured speaker at the annual Summit at Sea. He is also the author of Be in the Top 1%: A Real Estate Agent’s Guide to Getting Rich in the Investment Property Niche.

Today, Bob joins me to discuss why agents don’t invest in real estate themselves, explaining how the lack of role models for realtors inspired him to write Be in the Top 1%. He describes how he became an accidental real estate investor and shares the story of Bob’s Big Boo-Boo, a 50-unit deal that he failed to optimize. Listen in for Bob’s insight around becoming an investment property specialist and learn how you can easily become an investor yourself—with the right education and a little self-belief!

Key Takeaways

How Bob became The Godfather of Real Estate

  • Nicknamed by The Real Estate Guys
  • Practicing broker for 40 years

Why agents don’t invest in real estate themselves

  • Lack of successful role models
  • Commercial agents < 7% of total

How Bob got into real estate investing

  • Bought cabin in mountains as engineering student
  • Worked as agent specializing in serving investors

What it was like to work with Robert as a father-son team

  • Gave each other space to operate
  • Both made significant contributions

What inspired Bob to write Be in the Top 1%

  • Average agent makes $35K to $40K/year
  • ‘Separated from opportunity’

The key to becoming an investment property specialist

  • Understand language of investors, how they think
  • Offer opportunity superior to what already doing

Bob’s top takeaways from Be in the Top 1%

  • Investing easy to do with education
  • Find coach to guide through process

How agents can best serve real estate investors

  • Learn investment goals, help develop plan
  • Proactively look for properties than align

Connect with Bob

The Real Estate Godfather

Bob on The Real Estate Guys

Be in the Top 1%: A Real Estate Agent’s Guide to Getting Rich in the Investment Property Niche by Bob Helms

Resources

The Real Estate Guys

Summit at Sea

The 4-Hour Workweek: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich by Timothy Ferriss

Equity Happens: Building Lifelong Wealth with Real Estate by Robert Helms and Russell Gray

New Orleans Investment Conference

Hal Elrod

The Miracle Morning: The Not-So-Obvious Secret Guaranteed to Transform Your Life (Before 8AM) by Hal Elrod

The Miracle Equation: The Two Decisions That Move Your Biggest Goals from Possible, to Probable, to Inevitable by Hal Elrod

Deal Maker Live

Financial Freedom with Real Estate Investing: The Blueprint to Quitting Your Job with Real Estate—Even Without Experience or Cash by Michael Blank

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Michael’s Website

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Jun 06 2019

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