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Welcome to The Wicked Wallflowers Club! We are two authors who read, write, and love everything about the romance genre. We celebrate female empowerment and sex positivity. Entertainment Weekly featured us on their "Must List" as "a compelling reminder of why the oft-dismissed genre is a real force in cultural conversations".

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Welcome to The Wicked Wallflowers Club! We are two authors who read, write, and love everything about the romance genre. We celebrate female empowerment and sex positivity. Entertainment Weekly featured us on their "Must List" as "a compelling reminder of why the oft-dismissed genre is a real force in cultural conversations".

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By elisajay - Mar 12 2019
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This podcast is amazing. If you’re a fan of romance, it’s a must!

Cool show

By MarielleRR - Dec 21 2018
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New listener. Great podcast!

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125 Ratings
Average Ratings
121
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Love it!

By elisajay - Mar 12 2019
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This podcast is amazing. If you’re a fan of romance, it’s a must!

Cool show

By MarielleRR - Dec 21 2018
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New listener. Great podcast!
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The Wicked Wallflowers Club

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Welcome to The Wicked Wallflowers Club! We are two authors who read, write, and love everything about the romance genre. We celebrate female empowerment and sex positivity. Entertainment Weekly featured us on their "Must List" as "a compelling reminder of why the oft-dismissed genre is a real force in cultural conversations".

Rank #1: 52 - Kresley Cole and Gena Showalter

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We're joined this week by Kresley Cole and Gena Showalter, bestselling authors of some of our favorite books--and real life besties!  We talk about their upcoming projects, their tortured heroes, kickass heroines, and their epic friendship. You'll find out about who wants to wear the other one's skin, the literal shrines they have to each other, and why this game of Fuck/Marry/Kill has a shockingly high body count!

Ways to listen:

To find out more about Maya, you can check out her website or follow her on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram.

Highlights and favorite quotes from the episode:

  • "Gena knows how to kill people REAL BAD!" -GS
  • All about Gena's Gods of War series--spoiler alert, it contains lots of Alpha heroes!
  • How Gena is the heroine of all her books
  • Why Gena's friends don't piss her off
  • Why Gena's new YA series called The Forest of Good and Evil is the hardest to write that she's ever experienced
  • "I just want one fucking book to flow out of me!" -KC
  • "Let me inspire and excite you!" -GS
  • "It's like going to war and battling for every word." -KC
  • How the pressures of audience expectations impacts their writing and how they work past it
  • "When you're writing, it's like sanding wood and you can feel the grains that still need to be sanded." -KC
  • How often there's synchronisity between their separate projects
  • How their epic friendship began ("Can I lick your face?" "When is she going to lick my face?")
  • "We are not a tasteful show!" -SH
  • Why writer jealousy is bullshit
  • "By God, you better fucking like your own product...or don't sell it!" -KC
  • What it's like writing a storyline that you know will disappoint fans
  • Kresley's inspiration for the Arcana Chronicles and how she developed it
  • Their hilariously differing responses to killing characters
  • Gena and Kresley's preferences when it comes to Kresley's Gamemaker Trilogy
  • What's coming next in the Immortal's After Dark series!
  • "Twist our arm!"
  • The Gena shrine
  • "Can my game be Kill/Kill/Kill!?" -GS
  • "So it's like a praying mantis situation?" -GS
  • "I want to incentivize them for good sex. Bring it or die!" -KC
  • "We emerge as the only survivors...with some very fond memories!"
  • That time they had too much to drink and got lost in Manhattan and ended up in a horse drawn carriage--with Cherry Adair.
Books mentioned in this episode:

Wicked and the Wallflower by Sarah MacLean

Shadow and Ice by Gena Showalter

Dreams of a Dark Warrior by Kresley Cole

Captain of All Pleasures by Kresley Cole

Alice in Zombieland by Gena Showalter

Poison Princess by Kresley Cole

Warrior's Woman by Johanna Lindsey

Darkest Warrior by Gena Showalter

The Master by Kresley Cole

The Player by Kresley Cole

The Professional by Kresley Cole

Books by P.C. Cast

Books by Jill Monroe

Josh and Hazel's Guide to Dating by Christina Lauren

Oct 31 2018
1 hour 13 mins
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Rank #2: 43 - Tessa Dare: The Governess Game

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Our guest this week is New York Times bestselling author, Tessa Dare, who writes fabulously witty and charming historical romances. We talk about her latest book, The Governess Game, historical lady scientists, and the mating practices of both lobsters and ducks! 

Highlights from our conversation include:

How we accidentally had Tessa play photographer for us without knowing it was her. 
What it's like to be readers' "break in case of emergency author"
How authors who claim not to read reviews are lying.
Her marvelous new book, The Governess Game!
Awesome historical lady scientists.
Historical accuracy in historical romance and the concept of "historical rom coms"
How history is written by the Victors not the Victorias!
Her next book, The Wallflower Wager.
The backstory on her Girl Meets Duke series covers.
Her worst typo ever.
The specifics of lobster sex and why she felt it was the perfect fit for a romance. 
Duck sex. More about duck sex and genitalia than you ever wanted to know. 
"I don't know how to write a face eater!"

"Historical lube--how did we get here?"

"I want to tell a duck story that's not about rape." 
Books mentioned in this episode:

Books by Brenna Aubry (Tessa Dare's office mate)

When a Scot Ties the Knot by Tessa Dare

A Week to be Wicked by Tessa Dare

A Lady by Midnight by Tessa Dare 

Romancing the Duke by Tessa Dare

The Woman in Cabin 10 by Ruth Ward

Aug 29 2018
1 hour 34 mins
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Rank #3: 33 - Sarah MacLean: Wicked and the Wallflower

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We're joined by bestselling author Sarah MacLean. Her latest novel, Wicked and the Wallflower, just came out, and it is amazing. We talk about historical lockpicking, her romance review column in the Washington Post, and the true nature of the Alpha in romance.

We also got an incredible list of romance recommendations. Our conversation was so good that we went far longer than normal, so you get a massive episode this week!

Jun 20 2018
1 hour 53 mins
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Rank #4: 92 - Sarah MacLean: Brazen and the Beast

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We're joined by Sarah MacLean who is not only a NYT Bestselling author, but is also a cohost of one of our favorite podcasts, Fated Mates. We chat about her latest book, Brazen and the Beast, how podcasting has impacted her writing, and the fabulously bananas books she's been reading lately.
Jul 31 2019
43 mins
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Rank #5: 51 - Maya Rodale: Duchess by Design

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We're joined by bestselling author, Maya Rodale! We discuss her outstanding new release, Duchess by Design...as well as how she started reading romance, some of the real historical inspiration for her books, why the Gilded Age is so awesome, feminism, and much more!

Ways to listen:

To find out more about Maya, you can check out her website or follow her on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram.

Highlights from our conversation include:

  • Listen to Jenny fangirl over her love of Duchess by Design
  • The real historical people and places that inspired the book
  • How Maya was introduced to romance novels and how that led to her publishing a nonfiction book about romance: Dangerous Books for Girls: The Bad Reputation of Romance Novels Explained
  • Why a dress with pockets can change the world
  • What's coming next in the series
  • What makes the romance genre so powerful and endlessly fascinating
  • How she started writing romance
  • How her husband reads and provides feedback on her books
  • Her amazing fantasyland workspace
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Oct 24 2018
55 mins
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Rank #6: 66 - Sierra Simone and C.D. Reiss from The Ripped Bodice: Writing Erotic Romance

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This episode was recorded at a live event at The Ripped Bodice called Writing Erotic Romance for the Modern Reader featuring C.D. Reiss and Sierra Simone discussing how they write high heat levels. Jenny moderated, so we recorded it to share with everyone who wasn't able to attend!
Jan 24 2019
47 mins
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Rank #7: 91 - Mia Hopkins: Trashed

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We're joined by Mia Hopkins to talk about Trashed, her Eastside Brewery series, why we find it impossible to tell love stories without sex, and how motherhood has impacted her writing process.
Jul 17 2019
51 mins
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Rank #8: 82 - Christina Lauren: The Unhoneymooners

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We're joined once again by dynamic writing duo, Christina Lauren! We chat about all of their recent and upcoming releases, the latest movie news for Roomies, what it was like writing the screenplay, and how their careers have evolved.

May 15 2019
55 mins
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Rank #9: 59 - Naima Simone: Sin and Ink

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Dec 12 2018
1 hour 18 mins
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Rank #10: 81 - What We're Reading #9 with Eva Moore: The Tipsy Edition

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May 08 2019
1 hour 43 mins
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Rank #11: 67 - Sierra Simone: Sinner, Priest, and New Camelot

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We're joined by Sierra Simone who discusses mixing Catholicism with kink, her transition from YA to erotic fiction, and her well earned title of Erotic Theologian.
Jan 30 2019
1 hour 20 mins
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Rank #12: 31 - Helen Hoang: The Kiss Quotient

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A conversation with Helen Hoang about her wonderful debut novel, what it’s like to be diagnosed on the spectrum as an adult, and how it impacted her writing. As always, we also chat romance, writing, and more!

Jun 06 2018
52 mins
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Rank #13: 3 - Maureen Lee Lenker: EW's New Romance Columnist

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This week we interview Maureen Lee Lenker, writer of the monthly romance review column "Hot Stuff!" for Entertainment Weekly. We discuss our similar backgrounds, her relatively recent exposure to the genre, and what it's like to review romance novels for a living. We're looking forward to checking back in with Maureen next year to see how the column has grown!

You can keep up with Maureen by following her on Twitter or Instagram! You can also follow The Wicked Wallflowers Club on Twitter, Instagram, or Facebook--and if you're enjoying the show, be sure to subscribe on iTunes!

*Books mentioned in this episode:

Wilde in Love by Eloisa James

When We Were Gods by Colin Falconer

Ransom My Heart by Meg Cabot (writing as Princess Mia Thermopolis of Genovia)

Alanna: The First Adventure by Tamora Pierce

Much Ado About You by Eloisa James

Temptations Of A Wallflower by Eva Leigh

A Rogue By Any Other Name by Sarah MacLean

Sweet Little Lies by Jill Shalvis

A Discovery of Witches by Deborah Harkness

Shadow of Night by Deborah Harkness

Outlander by Diana Gabaldon

The Duke and I by Julia Quinn

Then Comes Winter ed. by Christina Boyd

Hot Holiday Reads, Vol. 2: Christmas Nookies, ed. by Tricia Skinner, Story by Maureen Lee: "From Keats, With Love"

A Hope Divided by Alyssa Cole

Wrong To Need You by Alisha Rai

Hate To Want You by Alisha Rai

Duke of Desire by Elizabeth Hoyt

NY Times article

*The above links will take you to The Ripped Bodice website where you have the option to purchase the print books from the only exclusively romance bookstore in the US. We love them--please consider showing your support to such a wonderful small business! If you're in the LA area, definitely go and visit the store--it's magical!

Special thanks to our Editor, Chris Willett!

Nov 29 2017
58 mins
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Rank #14: 4 - Bea Koch: Owner of The Ripped Bodice

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We're joined this week by Bea Koch of The Ripped Bodice. The Ripped Bodice is the only exclusively romance bookstore in America and a truly wonderful place.

We talk about Bea's fascinating graduate degree in fashion history, her love of Early Modern British history, and passive aggressive embroidery. We discuss why romance is unquestionably feminist and some of the challenges she faces as the owner of a romance only bookstore.

Two of my favorite Bea quotes from this episode:

"Elizabeth I is the Beyonce of her time."

"Are you scared I'm going to cut your dick off? I would never do that, I don't like blood."

You can follow The Ripped Bodice on Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram. You can also follow Fitzwillian Waffles, the roguishly charming dog, on Instagram.

*Books mentioned in this episode:

Highlander series by Karen Marie Moning

Song of the Lioness by Tamora Pierce

A Lady's Code of Misconduct by Meridith Duran (passive aggressive embroidery)

Harlots the TV show on Hulu

Dreaming of You by Lisa Kleypas

Duke of Pleasure by Elizabeth Hoyt

*The above links will take you to The Ripped Bodice website where you have the option to purchase the print books from the only exclusively romance bookstore in the US. We love them--please consider showing your support to such a wonderful small business! If you're in the LA area, definitely go and visit the store--it's magical!

Special thanks to our Editor, Chris Willett.

Dec 06 2017
1 hour 1 min
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Rank #15: 70 - Penny Reid and Maureen Lee Lenker: Toxic Masculinity

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We're joined by Penny Reid and Maureen Lee Lenker to have a conversation about toxic masculinity. We also delve into why Penny has in the past deliberately written characters who start their arc exhibiting these traits, why she feels like we're much harder on our heroines, and some of our own experiences with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and Autism Spectrum Disorder. Check out Penny's latest incredibly timely book, Motion!
Feb 20 2019
1 hour 5 mins
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Rank #16: 26 - What We're Reading!

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Jenny and Sarah chat about the books they've been reading for the last few months (that aren't already the focus of another episode).

May 02 2018
1 hour 6 mins
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Rank #17: 41 - Avery Flynn: Butterface

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Our guest this week is Avery Flynn who chats with us about her previous career as a crime reporter, her transition from writing romantic suspense to writing romantic comedy, and her newest book, Butterface!

You can find Avery Flynn on her website or follow her on Twitter, Instagram, or Facebook!

Highlights from our conversation include:

How she got started reading romance.
Her experiences as a crime reporter.
How she embraced her sense of humor in her writing and started writing romantic comedy.
How Butterface explores embracing women exactly as they are and how powerful that is.
Our mutual obsession with enemies to lovers.
The story of the cat Sarah and Jenny had in college who liked to hide in the bathroom and attack men's genitals.
Where her ideas come from.
How her career as a romance novelist began.
How she juggles motherhood with writing.
Why we love Scrivener!
How she deals with writer's block.
How she's grown as a writer and her craft has changed.
Books mentioned in this episode:

Butterface by Avery Flynn

Books by Johanna Lindsey

Books by Jackie Collins

The Charmer by Avery Flynn

Text Me When You Get Home by Kayleen Schaefer

Scoring the Player's Baby by Naima Simone

The Governess Game by Tessa Dare

Rock Chick by Kristin Ashley

Dangerous Kiss by Avery Flynn

In the Woods by Tana French

Aug 15 2018
46 mins
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Rank #18: 25 - Joanna Shupe: A Scandalous Deal

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We're joined by historical romance author Joanna Shupe! Her newest release is A Scandalous Deal, the second book in her 400 Club series, which is set in Gilded Age New York. We also talk about fascinating historical women, her tattoo, and why the Gilded Age is such a compelling setting for romance.

Apr 25 2018
59 mins
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Rank #19: 69 - What We're Reading #8 with Erin Galloway

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In this 8th edition of What We're Reading, we're joined once again by our brilliant romance loving friend Erin Galloway who is the Deputy Director of Publicity for Berkley. We chat about all the great books we've read in the last month and what we're looking forward to this year!
Feb 13 2019
1 hour 17 mins
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Rank #20: 5 - Courtney Milan: Hamilton's Battalion

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This week we're joined by Courtney Milan, an award-winning and bestselling author of historical and contemporary romance. Her most recent release, Hamilton's Battalion is a trio of short romances set during the Revolutionary War written with Alyssa Cole and Rose Lerner. We chat about her fabulous story in Hamilton's Battalion and how she developed two such interesting characters. Other fun highlights from our wide ranging conversation include:

  • Her fascinating journey from math degree to theoretical physical chemistry to law school to law clerk to law professor to romance author (!).
    -She decided she was bad at writing when she started college, and was fascinated by math, so she majored in math. One of my favorite quotes from this episode: "I ended up not being able to disprove all of modern mathematics, but I did have a lot of fun!"
    -As a lawyer, she served as a clerk for Supreme Court Justice Kennedy, Sandra Day O'Connor, and others before becoming a law professor. The reactions from the law community to her writing romance ranged from heartwarming (Justice Kennedy!) to infuriating.
    -We dig in to her intriguing writing process, which she describes as chaotic, like building a snowflake from the outside edges in. Listen as Sarah and I start to twitch when she describes how she handwrites everything!
    -How her editor has to give instructions a specific way because Courtney can't be told what to do.
    -How she essentially trained herself to like olives--and how that strategy didn't work with dark beer.

After sitting across from Courtney for an hour, it was clear that she is brilliant, humble, and kind...but what we didn't learn until last week is just how brave she is. In the episode, she references a federal judge who forbid her from reading romance novels during her dinner break. Last week she came forward with five other women to expose Judge Alex Kozinski's sexual misconduct while she was working for him as a clerk. The Washington Post broke the story, but Courtney's own statement is powerful and worth a read. Standing up and exposing behavior like that takes incredible courage. Courtney has cemented herself as not only one of our favorite authors, but now one of our feminist heroines.

Regrettably, we didn't talk about Courtney's adorable dog, Pele, but if you follow her on Twitter, you can see all the pictures! She can also be found on her website or on Facebook.

*Books mentioned in this episode:

Hamilton's Battalion by Courtney Milan, Alyssa Cole, and Rose Lerner

A Civil Campaign by Lois McMaster Bujold

Georgette Hayer Regency romances

Thunder and Roses by Mary Joe Putney

Serving Pleasure by Alisha Rai

The Killing Moon by N.K. Jemisin

*The above links will take you to The Ripped Bodice website where you have the option to purchase the print books from the only exclusively romance bookstore in the US. We love them--please consider showing your support to such a wonderful small business! If you're in the LA area, definitely go and visit the store--it's magical!

Special thanks to our Editor, Chris Willett!

Dec 13 2017
55 mins
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