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Four Brewers: Craft Beer and Homebrew

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Four Brewers is a weekly craft beer and homebrew podcast made up of four beer geeks who love beer and its community.

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Four Brewers is a weekly craft beer and homebrew podcast made up of four beer geeks who love beer and its community.

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Your own homebrewing?

By AmieSan - Nov 01 2019
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What’s the last thing you guys have homebrewed? What recommendations would you give for a newbie (thinking of starting this with my husband)?

It’s GOLD!

By nico3289 - Jan 17 2018
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Glad to see a mix of the games coming back.

iTunes Ratings

155 Ratings
Average Ratings
139
5
2
1
8

Your own homebrewing?

By AmieSan - Nov 01 2019
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What’s the last thing you guys have homebrewed? What recommendations would you give for a newbie (thinking of starting this with my husband)?

It’s GOLD!

By nico3289 - Jan 17 2018
Read more
Glad to see a mix of the games coming back.
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Four Brewers: Craft Beer and Homebrew

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Four Brewers is a weekly craft beer and homebrew podcast made up of four beer geeks who love beer and its community.

Rank #1: 239: Going In Blind with Tim and Kyle From Untappd

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Go here to see notes for this episode: http://www.fourbrewers.com/239-going-in-blind-with-tim-and-kyle-from-untappd/

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Episode Chapters:

00:00: supporttheshitoutofit.com

00:09: Theme Music

00:18: Begin Show

04:46: Untappd

08:47: Flagship February

11:55: Beer 1 – Going In Blind

15:53: Beer 1 Revealved

21:16: Beer 2 – Going In Blind

29:34: Beer 2 Revealved

34:17: Beer 3 – Going In Blind

37:04: Beer 3 Revealved

38:33: Patreon Glassware

41:13: Beer 4 – Going In Blind

46:14: Beer 4 Revealved

49:49: Beer 5 – Going In Blind

52:16: Beer 5 Revealved

01:04:51: Beer 6 – Going In Blind

01:05:25: Beer 6 Revealved

01:09:09: Final Thoughts

01:15:15: Drinking Socially Podcast

01:18:21: supporttheshitoutofit.com

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Feb 18 2019

1hr 19mins

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Rank #2: 229: Robotic Saint Kringle

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00:00: supporttheshitoutofit.com

00:09: Theme Music

00:18: Begin Show

00:36: Rick Smets from Stereo Brewing Company

01:00: Robot - Stereo Brewing Company

13:43: Holiday Beers!

14:24: Merry Christmas & Happy New Year (Our Special Ale) (2018) - Anchor Brewing Company

27:46: Celebration Fresh Hop IPA - Sierra Nevada Brewing Co.

34:02: Gnoel de Abbey - The Lost Abbey

41:09: Abt 12 - Brouwerij St. Bernardus

49:28: supporttheshitoutofit.com

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Dec 10 2018

49mins

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Rank #3: Episode Two - Four Brewers Have a Lupulin Threshold Shift

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Season 1, Episode 2 - Modern Times Beer Fortunate Islands brings the wheat and hops…

Welcome to episode two! This week on the show, we’re drinking wonderful a hoppy wheat beer from Modern Times Beer named “Fortunate Islands.” Modern Times is one of the newest breweries to sprout up in San Diego, California, and they’re making incredible beer. They’ve only been open since September 2013, and they’re already making a big name for themselves.

Modern Times Beer – Fortunate Islands

Feature: Homebrew - John’s Oatmeal IPA, “Oats N’ Hoes”

John’s oatmeal IPA has really garnered a lot of attention in the local Riverside, California homebrew scene. Inspired by Lee Chase and Automatic Brewing Co.‘s Will Powered IPA, Oats N’ Hoes is a west coast-style IPA, made with one pound of oats and Falconer’s Flight hops.

Recipe: Oats N’ Hoes

10 gallon batch, 82% mash efficiency. 148º mash temp for 40 min, 20 min mash out to 168º. 60 min boil. 65º fermentation temperature. 1.069 OG.

Malts: 25 lbs 2 Row Malt, 2 lbs US Caramel 15 malt, 1 lb U.S. Flaked Oats.

Hops: 2 oz Falconers Flight Hops (all hops are Falconer’s flight) at firt wort hop addidion, 1 oz at 10 min, 1 oz at 5 min, 2 oz at flame-out. Dry hop: 2 oz at 7 days, 2 oz at 10 days.

Yeast: White Labs WLP001 with 3L starter.

Cheers, and we’ll see you next week! Enjoy!

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Jun 09 2014

36mins

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Rank #4: [S4/E17] IPAs for Dayz...

Apr 24 2017

1hr 20mins

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Rank #5: [S4/E14] Fieldwork and HenHouse

Apr 03 2017

54mins

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Rank #6: 212: Deconstructing Prairie BOMB

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Chapters:

00:00: Support Four Brewers on Patreon!

00:09: Theme Music

00:18: Begin Show

00:33: Prairie Artisan Ales BOMB Deconstructed

03:12: Deconstructed Bomb! Vanilla - Prairie Artisan Ales

08:20: Deconstructed Bomb! Chili Peppers - Prairie Artisan Ales

10:38: Deconstructed Bomb! Cacao Nibs - Prairie Artisan Ales

12:49: Deconstructed Bomb! Coffee - Prairie Artisan Ales

20:18: The BOMB Coovee

20:44: Four Brewers on YouTube!

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Jul 23 2018

21mins

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Rank #7: [S2/E45] Russian River: Pitch Please

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Season 2, Episode 45 – This week on the show, we’re drinking beers from Russian River Brewing Company. BOOM.

If you’re a craft beer drinker, you’ve heard of Russian River Brewing Company. Craft beer drinkers far and wide seem to adore Russian River and their beers, ranging from the somewhat hard to find and ever-so-hoppy Pliny The Elder, to the hard to get beers like the tart and acidic Beatification.

Russian River has roots in the Inland Empire of southern California, originally hailing from Temecula, California, but moved up the coast to Santa Rosa, California, which is where they call home today.

Pliny The Elder

We’re kicking off the show with the legendary beer geek-hoppy-holy-grail, Pliny The Elder. Bottles of this beer tend to be hard to find outside of central California, so getting some bottles for the show this week was a bit of an endeavor for us. Luckily, we have a few friends in high places, and were able to score a couple bottles, one from La Bodega Wine & Spirits in Riverside, California, and at the last minute, El Cerrito Liquor in Corona, California.

Pliny The Elder is a beer that is best enjoyed fresh, due to the copious amount of dry hops used in secondary fermentation. IPA in general should always be consumed as fresh as possible, and Russian River goes out of their way to make sure you know this by plastering it all over the bottle’s label.

Russian River Brewing Company Beers

We’re drinking A LOT of Russian River beers on the show this week, so we’re not going to get too in depth on the blog post about them. We tried to get as many as possible, going as far as San Diego the day before the show to pick up a bottle of 2013 Framboise for a Cure from the legendary cellar of “Dr. Bill” Sysak. We also got a bottle of Beatification from our good friend, Cougar Steve, which he brought back from a recent trip to Russian River Brewing Company. 

Huge thanks once again to Kim at La Bodega Wine & Spirits and Jazz at El Cerrito Liquorfor the Pliny, as well as Dr. Bill and Cougar Steve for the whalez hookups. It takes a village to do a bar podcast, you know…

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:Russian River Brewing Company: Pliny The ElderRussian River Brewing Company: DamnationRussian River Brewing Company: SalvationRussian River Brewing Company: SanctificationRussian River Brewing Company: Framboise For A Cure 2013Russian River Brewing Company: SupplicationRussian River Brewing Company: Consecration Russian River Brewing Company: Beatification 

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Nov 09 2015

1hr 17mins

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Rank #8: Episode Three - Going In Blind

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Season 1, Episode 3 - A plethora of delicious craft brew on this week’s show reminds us that we are living in a great time in craft beer.

This week on the show, we are quite possibly, drinking all the beers. Well, more like seven different beers, but hey, it’s still a lot of brew. Jason brings us some brews from the northwest from Bale Breaker Brewing and Fort Gorge Brewing. We wrap things up in the first segment with a tasty brew from Los Angeles based brewery, Monkish Brewing.

Monkish Brewing, Fort George, and Bale Breaker Brewing Co.

Feature: “Guess That Brew!”

In the second segment of the show, we introduce our game of sorts, “Guess That Brew.” Basically, we read reviews of different beers from the internet and try to guess which beer the reviewer is describing. It’s actually pretty entertaining. Give it a listen, then try it out with your friends.

Feature: “Going In Blind…”

Hangar 24, Firestone Walker, Dogfish Head, and Ballast Point Brewing Co. beers for “Guess That Brew!”

The final segment of the show is a true test of our collective beer analysis skills. We’re drinking four random brews, procured by our lovely assistant (and Jason’s significant other) Sara. Again, give the segment a listen and try it out for yourself. You’ll be surprised how much you really don’t know about your favorite brews.

Cheers, and we’ll see you next week!

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Jun 16 2014

1hr 2mins

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Rank #9: 216: Barley Forge Brewing at Windsor Homebrew Supply Co.

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Go here to see notes for this episode: http://www.fourbrewers.com/216-barley-forge-brewing-at-windsor-homebrew-supply-co/

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Chapters:

00:00: Support Four Brewers on Patreon!

00:09: Theme Music

00:18: Begin Show - Barley Forge Brewing

02:48: Dear Brutus - Barley Forge Brewing Co.

13:46: Ghost In the Kettle - Barley Forge Brewing Co.

22:11: Hexed-All - Barley Forge Brewing Co.

28:47: Keeping up with Barley Forge

30:49: Four Brewers on YouTube!

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Aug 20 2018

31mins

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Rank #10: [S2/E14] The Saison Showdown, Part 1

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Season 2, Episode 14 - Here it is, folks! Part 1 of The Four Brewers Saison Showdown!

Hey everybody! We’re back with another showdown of whalez and whatnot, but this time, it’s a style of ale known as saison! We chose 16 saisons from around the world (that we could acquire), and ranked them in order of the average rankings of Rate Beer and Beer Advocate combined. Who will be the big winner? Well, if you really want to know, like, RIGHT NOW, you can listen to the first minute of the show where we tell you what the randomly served beers were, which will allow you to know which beers we were talking about as they were randomly served to us, you can check out the scoring sheet we used for the showdown, or you can checkout the episode 14 show outline. If you want to wait until part 2, which will be released next week, then skip the first minute of the show and ignore everything else we just mentioned. It’s up to you, dawg!

The Saison Showdown

Saison is a very diverse style of beer, and it’s a pretty old style as well. It tends to have diverse interpretations among brewers and consumers, and we tried to touch on the different styles of saison that are currently available on the market that we could reasonable acquire.

In order of the combined average rankings of both Rate Beer and Beer Advocate, the beers we tasted on the show are as follows:

· Anchorage Brewing Company – Love Buzz· Boulevard Brewing Co. – Saison-Brett· Brasserie Fantôme – Saison· Logsdon Farmhouse Ales – Seizoen Bretta· Brasserie Dupont – Avec Les Bons Voeux· Brasserie Dupont – Saison Dupont· Boulevard Brewing Co. – Tank 7· Grassroots Brewing – Arctic Saison· Brewery Ommegang – Hennepin· The Bruery – Saison Rue· Prairie Artisan Ales – Prairie Ale· Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project – Surette· The Lost Abbey – Carnevale· Firestone Walker Brewing Company – Opal· Monkish Brewing Co. – Selah· Propolis Brewing – Beltane

There are three awesome individuals that helped us with this massive blind tasting; Sara Kidd“Dr.” Zack Alexander, and Bob Vreeland. We couldn’t have done this show in such an orderly and swift manner without the help of these pillars of podcast production. Our gratitude is extended to them for all of time.

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Links to things from this week’s episode:S2/E14 Show OutlineThe Saison Showdown Score SheetSession #15 Live Video StreamThe Four Brewers Saison Showdown Bracket Sheet

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Apr 06 2015

58mins

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Rank #11: 195: Stone, Keystone, and IPA...

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Chapters:

00:00: FirkFest 2018!

02:27: Theme Music

02:36: Begin Show

02:41: Stone v KeySTONE

10:24: Hop Swingers - Artifex Brewing Company

17:07: Mountain Daisy - Fremont Brewing

21:31: Mailbag

24:32: Chuuurch! - Kern River Brewing Company

31:40: Diverge IPA - Faction Brewing

38:53: Four Brewers on YouTube!

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Mar 19 2018

39mins

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Rank #12: 222: Brouwerij West with Vito Trautz

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Chapters:

00:00: Support Four Brewers on Patreon!

00:09: Theme Music

00:18: Begin Show

00:47: Vito Trautz From Brouwerij West

02:52: Tahiti Substation - Brouwerij West

04:04: Brouwerij West Label Art

08:22: Tahiti Substation (cont'd)

09:40: Centrifuge and Equipment Discussion

18:35: Mecca Grade Estate Malt

20:58: Tahiti Substation (cont'd)

23:28: FA REALLY - Brouwerij West

24:12: Going Deeper with Label Art and Process

27:59: FA REALLY (cont'd)

33:48: Ask the Dust - Brouwerij West

38:59: SLEEP and Other Bands at Brouwerij West

45:54: Science Magic - Brouwerij West

01:00:22: Wrapping It Up

01:03:13: Four Brewers on YouTube!

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Oct 02 2018

1hr 4mins

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Rank #13: [S3/E11] Modern Times and Modem Tones

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Season 3, Episode 11 – This week, Jason brought us so many beers from Modern Times…and it’s awesome.

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Before we get into the beers, it should be known that Greg’s cask ale festival called “Firkfest” is going down on March 19, 2016 in Anaheim, California. We’ve been promoting this event for good reason—it’s a unique festival to Southern California, featuring 30 breweries and 50 cask beers, ranging from the more traditional cask conditioned beers to firkins with chocolate, peppers, or whatever else brewers want to add to their standard release and one-off beers. Get your tickets at firkfest.com.

Bottle Logic Beers in Cans

We’re drinking a lot of Modern Times beers on the show this week, 12 beers to be exact, which makes this show one of the longest 4B episodes yet. Jason is the resident Four Brewers Modem Tones super-fan, and he did not fail to deliver some Modem Whalez.

…and These Modern Times Beers are in Bottles!

Having 12 beers on one show makes it difficult to properly summarize the episode. Some of them are funky, some are hoppy, some are barrel-aged, and some are sour. Jason is a member of Modern Times’ “League of Partygoers and Elegant People” so naturally, he brought some good stuff.

Modern Times is an all around great brewery. They have a great attitude toward beer, experimentation, and quality, and it shows in their beer. While they’ve had a few missteps here and there, their commitment to quality craft beer and their fans is unquestionably passionate. 

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:Modern Times Beer – LomalandModern Times Beer – Fortunate IslandsModern Times Beer – Fruitlands w/ ApricotsModern Times Beer – Blazing WorldModern Times Beer – City of the SunModern Times Beer – Black HouseModern Times Beer – Booming RollersModern Times Beer – OrdervilleModern Times Beer – City of the DeadModern Times Beer – HooloomoolooModern Times Beer – Palace of Paper SacksModern Times Beer – Monsters’ Park (Aged in Nicaraguan Rum Barrels w/ Rum Barrel-Aged Coffee)

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Mar 15 2016

1hr 31mins

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Rank #14: [S2/E36] It's Another IPA Show!

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Season 2, Episode 36 – This week on the show, a plethora of IPA, and some tasty beers from our buddy, Phil.

This week, were drinking the OC Brew HAHA South County IPA, as well as IPA from SoCal and Athens, Georgia. And just for the fun of it, we’re throwing in a Berliner Weisse as well.

We kick off the show with with two beers from friend of the show and Patreoneer, Phil Lorezini. Phil is currently living in Florida, and was kind enough to send us some beer from Creature Comforts Brewing Company out of Athens, Georgia. To get things going, we open Athena, a delicious and spot-on Berliner Weisse. It’s tart and refreshing with just enough of that acidic bite to take it over the top. Berliner Weisse can be a complicated beer to make, even though it’s quite delicate and simple. Achieving the proper level of tart and funk is the sign of a great Berliner Weisse. Athena doesn’t disappoint. 

IPA and a Berliner Weisse.

Now to the IPA! Keeping with Creature Comforts, we open the Tropicália IPA. Creature Comforts aptly summarizes this beer as “a ripe and juicy balanced American IPA”. It’s brewed with Citra, Centennial, and Glaxay hops. The beer finishes dry enough to pass for a west coast IPA while having a malt profile similar to an east coast IPA. It really is a nice balance of malt and hops, and not an overpowering, bitter malt bomb like many east coast IPAs tend to be. The east coast is slowly coming around to that west coast-style IPA radness, y’all.

Next up is the OC Brew HAHA South County IPA. This beer was brewed in collaboration with Cameron Collins, founder of the OC Brew HAHALeft Coast Brewing Co.Artifex Brewing Company, and Pizza Port San Clemente. The “south county” part of the name refers to south Orange County, which is where these three breweries hail from. Nagel recently did a write up on the beer for Orange Coast Magazine that sums it up pretty well. One thing that stood out to him was a mouth numbing affect the hops seemed to have on him, which is kinda weird and hard to pinpoint why. It’s a deliciously hoppy beer that’s well executed. You can try it at the OC Brew HAHA which is this Saturday! Get your tickets before they sell out…

Speaking of Pizza Port San Clemente, the next beer up is their Mango IPA, Lono. This beer smells and tastes like a freakin’ mango. It’s delicious. Pizza Port San Clemente utilizes step mashing in their beers (which could be a reason why they’re beers are so great), leading us into a discussion on the importance of step mashing and if it’s something that actually makes a difference in certain styles of beer.

We wrap up the show with a beer from Barley Forge Brewing Company, One Louder. We’ve had this beer on the show before and it was great, so why not have it again? Barley Forge also utilizes step mashing, and their beers are awesome. Maybe we’re seeing a pattern here?

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Beers from this week’s episode:Creature Comforts Brewing Company: AthenaCreature Comforts Brewing Company: TropicáliaLeft Coast / Artifex / Pizza Port San Clemente: South County IPAPizza Port: Lono (Mango IPA) (San Clemente)Barley Forge Brewing Co.: One Louder

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Sep 08 2015

58mins

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Rank #15: [S2/E15] The Saison Showdown, Part 2

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Season 2, Episode 15 - The Elite 8 of The Saison Showdown, and the reveal of the big winner.

We’re back with part 2 of The Saison Showdown and we’re pretty excited to announce the winner, which – SPOILER ALERT – is after the photo. We were all really happy with the results, and really taken back by how some of the beers did in the competition.

The Saison Showdown

Just to recap, in order of the combined average rankings of both Rate Beer and Beer Advocate, the beers we tasted on the show are as follows:

· Anchorage Brewing Company – Love Buzz· Boulevard Brewing Co. – Saison-Brett· Brasserie Fantôme – Saison· Logsdon Farmhouse Ales – Seizoen Bretta· Brasserie Dupont – Avec Les Bons Voeux· Brasserie Dupont – Saison Dupont· Boulevard Brewing Co. – Tank 7· Grassroots Brewing – Arctic Saison· Brewery Ommegang – Hennepin· The Bruery – Saison Rue· Prairie Artisan Ales – Prairie Ale· Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project – Surette· The Lost Abbey – Carnevale· Firestone Walker Brewing Company – Opal· Monkish Brewing Co. – Selah· Propolis Brewing – Beltane

The “Elite Eight” that made it to the second round are as follows:

· Boulevard Brewing Co. – Saison-Brett· Brasserie Dupont – Avec Les Bons Voeux· Monkish Brewing Co. – Selah· Grassroots Brewing – Arctic Saison· Firestone Walker Brewing Company – Opal· Brasserie Dupont – Saison Dupont· Prairie Artisan Ales – Prairie Ale· The Lost Abbey – Carnevale

The “Final Four” that made it to the third round are as follows:

· Boulevard Brewing Co. – Saison-Brett· Grassroots Brewing – Arctic Saison· Firestone Walker Brewing Company – Opal· Prairie Artisan Ales – Prairie Ale

The finalists of The 2015 Four Brewers Saison Showdown:

· Boulevard Brewing Co. – Saison-Brett· Firestone Walker Brewing Company – Opal

The big winner of the 2015 Four Brewers Saison Showdown is:

· Boulevard Brewing Co. – Saison-Brett

The Saison Showdown Bracket

There you have it folks! Congrats to Boulevard Brewing Co.!

There are three awesome individuals that helped us with this massive blind tasting; Sara Kidd“Dr.” Zack Alexander, and Bob Vreeland. We couldn’t have done this show in such an orderly and swift manner without the help of these pillars of podcast production. Our gratitude is extended to them for all of time.

BREW THE SHIT OUT OF IT.

Links to things from this week’s episode:S2/E15 Show OutlineSession #15 Live Video StreamThe Saison Showdown Score SheetThe Hand-Written Four Brewers Saison Showdown Bracket SheetPDF of The 2015 Four Brewers Saison Showdown Bracket

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Apr 13 2015

56mins

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Rank #16: [S3/E12] Tired Hands Brewing Company

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Season 3, Episode 12 – This week, we try to figure out exactly why Tired Hands Brewing Company’s hands are so tired. Spoiler: we still don’t know, but you should still listen to the episode.

This week on the show, we’re drinking beers from the whalez-bro-brewery outta Pennsylvania known as Tired Hands Brewing Company. Their beers are difficult to get in SoCal (they don’t distribute here), but our good friend, Dr. Zack, came up on a massive shipment and was kind enough to share some cans with us. SWEET.

Their Hands are Tired AF, Apparently.

Before we get into the beers, we open up the 4B Mailbag and answer some questions about dry-hopping and where to acquire some good beer in Cleveland, Ohio. Want to send us a question? Hit us up at feedback@fourbrewers.com.

First up is Hop Hands. Without giving too much away, this beer was the best of the bunch. It should be said that all three beers that we sampled were murkier than potato soup, which was to be expected, I guess. They were all served from cans (ICYMI above) and were all consumed within about three weeks of the canning date. Just remember that while you’re listening to the episode.

Next up is PinealMatt explains to us exactly what the word “Pineal” means on the show, so don’t bother to Google the definition or anything. Just listen to the show, because that’s why were here, right? Sure! This beer was, um, well…it was good, but had its flaws, to say the least.

We end the show with Alien Church, and I’m not going to say anything more about that beer.

Also, Matt takes a potty break during the show. Yay! 

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Beers from this week’s episode:Tired Hands Brewing Company – Hop HandsTired Hands Brewing Company – PinealTired Hands Brewing Company – Alien Church

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Mar 20 2016

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Rank #17: 226: Matt Becker's Final Show

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Chapters:

00:00: Support Four Brewers on Patreon!

00:09: Theme Music

00:18: Begin Show

00:39: Matt's Moving

03:32: Death By Coconut - Oskar Blues Brewery

04:26: Budweiser Reserve Copper Lager - Anheuser-Busch

09:40: Duck Duck Gooze (2009) - The Lost Abbey

09:40: Duck Duck Gooze (2013) - The Lost Abbey

16:50: Duck Duck Gooze (2016) - The Lost Abbey

25:18: Drift Racer - Bear Republic Brewing Co.

30:34: Hunahpu’s - Cigar City Brewing

35:45: Nom De Famille - Last Name Brewing

41:18: The Future of Four Brewers

47:13: Abacus (2011) - Firestone Walker Brewing Company

55:08: Triomf - Brasserie Dupont

01:00:45: Lucybelle - Sante Adairius Rustic Ales

01:06:21: Begin Intermission

01:06:21: End Intermission

01:07:08: Kyle's Game!

01:07:18: Bobtoberfest - Heater Allen Brewing

01:09:02: Kyle's Game! (cont'd)

01:15:02: Bobtoberfest (cont'd)

01:15:46: Celestial Fuzz - Monkish Brewing Co.

01:16:49: Matt's Question

01:21:12: Celestial Fuzz (cont'd)

01:21:46: Brett Heart - Monkish Brewing Co.

01:24:34: L'deracola - The Bruery

01:29:52: Oude Gueuze (2014) - Brouwerij De Troch

01:34:12: Ride Or Die (w/ Blackberry) - Relentless Brewing Company

01:37:34: Black Tuesday (2012) - The Bruery

01:38:58: Classic Gueuze - Brasserie Cantillon

01:40:00: Power Shower - El Segundo Brewing Company

01:42:30: Matt Drinks The Dumper

01:46:05: Matt In The Chat?!

01:47:17: Four Brewers on YouTube!

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Oct 31 2018

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Rank #18: [S3/E40] The Gueuze Showdown

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Season 3, Episode 40 – This week, we’re blind ranking 13 different gueuze-style beers.

The gueuze showdown was inevitable, really. I mean, IPA, stout, and pilsner showdowns are all good and well, but a gueuze showdown is really hard to pull off. Since “sour beers” have been all the rage for the last ten years or so (at least from our limited perspective), it seemed natural to put on our big-boy pants and get to the real deal: gueuze-style beer and lambic.

The Gueuze Showdown

As always, this showdown is by no means a definitive list or ranking. Many beers were left out of this showdown simply because we couldn’t get them. Gueuze is a tough style to nail for many breweries and blenderies, as is evident in this showdown. Making a great gueuze is tough, and they’re equally hard to acquire. We tried to get as many quality gueuze-style beers as we could find, so don’t get butt-hurt because we didn’t include your favorite.

It should also be noted that John was the proctor for this showdown. He served up the beers and participated in the ranking, but the final scores on this showdown do not take his scores into account, since he knew what the beers were upon evaluation.

Here are the beers that we sampled in the showdown, listed in the order they were served:

Beer #1 – Brouwerij Lindemans – Oude Gueuze Cuvée René Beer #2 – Brouwerij Boon – Oude Geuze Boon Black Label Beer #3 – Gueuzerie Tilquin – Oude Gueuze Tilquin à L’Ancienne Beer #4 – Brewery John Martin & Brewery Timmermans – Timmermans Oude Gueuze Beer #5 – Brasserie Cantillon – Gueuze 100% Lambic Bio Beer #6 – Hanssens Artisanaal – Oude Gueuze Beer #7 – The Bruery – Rueuze Beer #8 – Brouwerij Boon – Oude Geuze Beer #9 – Mikkeller – Hues Beer #10 – Brouwerij 3 Fonteinen – Oude Geuze Beer #11 – Brouwerij Girardin – Gueuze 1882 (Black Label) Beer #12 – Brouwerij Van Honsebrouck – St. Louis Gueuze Fond Tradition Beer #13 – The Lost Abbey – Duck Duck Gooze (2016)

Results and rankings:

#13 Brouwerij Van Honsebrouck – St. Louis Gueuze Fond Tradition Average Score: 31.67

Brouwerij Van Honsebrouck – St. Louis Gueuze Fond Tradition

This is a gueuze that seems to be readily available in most mid to high-end bottle shops. For myself (John), it’s one of the first of the style that I got my hands on. Unfortunately, we thought this beer was the worst of the group, with very prominent notes of acetone. 

#12 Mikkeller – Hues Average Score: 40.67

Mikkeller – Hues

This beer was weird. It was the darkest of the group. It came off with really big caramel notes, similar to something like an amber ale or stout, but it was also sour. While sour stouts and amber ales are totally a thing, this beer just came off, well, gross. Overall, it was an awkward experience for all but Greg, who gave it a 70 for some reason…

#11 Brasserie Cantillon – Gueuze 100% Lambic Bio Average Score: 41.67

Brasserie Cantillon – Gueuze 100% Lambic Bio

It goes without saying that it’s both surprising and disappointing that Cantillon ranked so low. The acetone notes were really distracting and the beer came off as very one-note. It also displayed acetic characteristics on the nose that John picked up. We truly think that this was either a bad bottle or bad batch because Cantillon usually never fails to deliver quality gueuze.

#10 Hanssens Artisanaal – Oude Gueuze Average Score: 61.00

Hanssens Artisanaal – Oude Gueuze

This is one of the more recognizable brands of gueuze that one can find. While Hanssens hit the target with this beer’s acidic notes, the solvent-like nose and lack of a funky backbone drove this beer to the bottom half of the list. 

#9 Brewery John Martin & Brewery Timmermans – Timmermans Oude Gueuze Average Score: 64.33

Brewery John Martin & Brewery Timmermans – Timmermans Oude Gueuze

This beer was super-tart, and was described by Nagel as a “funky, Sour Warhead [candy]”. Notes of honey and soil were prominent, and while everyone else gave this beer lower scores, John really seemed to like it and gave it a 78.

#8 Gueuzerie Tilquin – Oude Gueuze Tilquin à L’Ancienne Average Score: 70.67

Gueuzerie Tilquin – Oude Gueuze Tilquin à L’Ancienne

For us, Tilquin Gueuze is one of the harder to find beers of the group. While the beer was fairly complex, displaying notes of hay, grass, funk, and oak, it was also a bit aggressive in those areas. Matt noted that it smelled like acetone, and Jason though it smelled like an old log. It brought the sour and funk, but the other aspects of the beer were too distracting.

#7 Brouwerij Boon – Oude Geuze Boon Black Label Average Score: 73.00

Brouwerij Boon – Oude Geuze Boon Black Label

Middle of the road. That’s what this beer is. While it was a bit watery and underwhelming, it wasn’t a total let down. Jason didn’t want to take points away for its subtleness, but in the end it just didn’t hit all the right notes.

#6 The Bruery – Rueuze Average Score: 75.67

The Bruery – Rueuze

This beer was immediately pointed out as an American interpretation of gueuze. Notes of vanilla and oak were prominent. There was a lovely sour bite to it, with fruit and citrus notes backing it up. While it wasn’t necessarily true to the gueuze style, Rueuze stood out as a unique and ambitious beer that was both delicious and interesting. 

#5 Brouwerij Lindemans – Oude Gueuze Cuvée René Average Score: 80.00

Brouwerij Lindemans – Oude Gueuze Cuvée René

This was the first beer served in the showdown, and that was on purpose. Lindemans gueuze is a great example of the style that is widely available, even at big box stores like Total Wine and More, and BevMo. The beer had an aggressive, funky nose and a nice tart acidic flavor to back it up. It ultimately lost points for being a bit skunked, but hey, it’s in a green bottle so, it’s to be expected. Overall, it’s a great example of the style and definitely worth picking up.

#4 Brouwerij Boon – Oude Geuze Average Score: 85.33

Brouwerij Boon – Oude Geuze

Overall, this beer was great. Notes of sesame seed, and funky bread were prominent, and the flavor was bright and tart with a touch of tannin. A classic gueuze and again, well worth the buy.

#3 The Lost Abbey – Duck Duck Gooze (2016) Average Score: 88.00

The Lost Abbey – Duck Duck Gooze (2016)

Duck Duck Gooze was the most pale in color of the group. Notes of fruit, hibiscus, and acidity were quite lovely on the nose, and the beer had a big fluffy head. The acidity on the palate was subdued and balanced. While we thought it may not be 100% true the style, it was definitely one of the best, even at $40+ per bottle.

#2 Brouwerij Girardin – Gueuze 1882 (Black Label) Average Score: 90.33

Brouwerij Girardin – Gueuze 1882 (Black Label)

Notes of cheese (yum), funk, and earthiness were prominent in Gueuze 1882. The beer had a nice clarity, a subtle funk backbone, and a pleasant, tart bite. It was an overall well balanced and delicious beer and its high ranking was not a surprise at all.

#1 Brouwerij 3 Fonteinen – Oude Geuze Average Score: 93.33

Brouwerij 3 Fonteinen – Oude Geuze

3 Fonteinen ranking number one in the showdown came as no surprise to any of us. Matt constantly gushes over the quality lambic blends that this blendery produces, and Oude Geuze was no exception. This was a stellar beer. The grassy, barnyard notes were balanced with a refreshing sour-citrus flavor and funky base that was nothing short of spectacular. If you see this beer, buy it.

The Rankings and Scores

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Rank #19: 263: Pucker Up, King James

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00:58: LeBron Haze - Pariah Brewing Company

07:56: Pool Patty - Arrow Lodge Brewing

13:31: Lil’ Nap - Prairie Artisan Ales

14:16: Listener Feedback - Whale Testicles

16:49: Lil’ Nap (cont'd)

21:02: Lindera - Upland Brewing Company

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Rank #20: [S3/E17] The 2016 California IPA Showdown

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Season 3, Episode 17 – Today, the 2016 California IPA
Showdown.

It’s been a while since our last showdown, and we’ve wrestled
with how we are going to handle IPA for a long time now. Initially,
we thought about trying to get the best of the best IPA from around
the country and compare them all blind. The challenge there is it’s
nearly impossible to get beer from all over the place, at an
acceptable level of freshness, in one place at one time. Plus, as
fun as it is to read about a magical elixir from a brewery
thousands of miles away that drinks of pure unobtainium, what about
something a bit easier to come by? 

Enter the CA Shelf IPA Showdown! 

2016 IPA Showdown Beers

These beers are all from California. They’re all IPAs and all
widely and readily available. Hell, they’re probably sitting in
your local grocer dying a slow painful death. So we set out to
determine the king of the hill. 

The Method

While we knew which beers were in the pool, we had our good
friend Dr Zack administer the tasting for us totally blind. We
didn’t know what we were drinking when we rated it, and we revealed
at the end. We each rated the beer 1-100 using our completely
arbitrary personal preference scales, and averaged those ratings to
get a total. 

All of these beers were well within acceptable freshness range
(The oldest bottle had a bottling date of 2/9/2016 which was less
than 2 months before recording) and were purchased at our old
standby Gerrard’s Market in Redlands, CA. All of the beer at this
store is kept in a walk in cooler, so conditions were about as
ideal as we’re going to get. But all of this beer was purchased, by
us, off the shelf, and not provided by the brewery.

The Rankings

#9 Lagunitas Brewing Company – IPA
Average Score: 56.75
Distribution: 48 states

Lagunitas Brewing Company – IPA

Lagunitas IPA may hail
from California, but you can probably get it at your local gas
station. This beer is available in 48 states in the US, and likely
the only IPA on at the janky bar down the way from you that got one
of these IPAs that people keep talking about. In this field of CA
standbys, Lagunitas disappointed. We were impressed with the
clarity, but minimal hop presence combined with a maltier than
average backbone and astringent flavors led this beer to rank a
full 10 points below the next lowest ranking beer. 

#8 Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Torpedo Extra IPA
Average Score: 65.75
Distribution: Everywhere

Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. –
Torpedo Extra IPA

Probably the only beer more ubiquitous than Lagunitas
IPA
 is Sierra
Nevada’s
 venerable Torpedo. This beer is
available in all 50 states and Washington DC! It’s also doing
pretty poorly against it’s CA born peers. We thought the beer was
appropriately old school. Aroma notes included citrus, pine and
crackery sweet malt character, but the flavor fell flat with our
field. Too much sweet caramel malt, limited hop presence and an
overall flat, bitter character dropped this standby near the bottom
of the field. 

#7 Stone Brewing Co. – Stone IPA
Average Score: 71.75
Distribution: 43 states

Stone Brewing Co. – Stone IPA

Stone IPA is a standby in California
and beyond, acting as an aggressive example of the West Coast IPA
style. We found it aggressive indeed – flavor descriptors include
words like bracing, challenging, boozy and unrefined. While overall
we enjoyed the beer, we found the rough around the edges approach
to IPA to be limiting and knocked it down in the field. 

#6 AleSmith Brewing Company – IPA
Average Score: 73.25
Distribution: 15 States

AleSmith Brewing Company – IPA

AleSmith IPA has been discussed on 4B
before in a Going in Blind segment. It continues
to vex the show, convincing Greg that he was drinking Stone IPA
until the reveal showed him to be dead wrong. This beer scored high
marks from John and Jason for being a classicly bitter “San Diego
style” West Coast IPA, but didn’t do as hot with Matt and
Greg. 

#5 Bear Republic Brewing Co. – Racer 5 IPA
Average Score: 79.375
Distribution: 28 states

Bear Republic Brewing Co. – Racer
5 IPA

Racer 5 from Bear
Republic
 has been the low key stand by west coast IPA for
several years now. We were able to pick out a lot of different
aroma notes, and kept finding different aroma descriptors the more
we tried it. While it registered high notes with most of our crew,
Jason was a dissenter and was so put off by the odd sweet
aftertaste and diesel aroma notes that he knocked it down to his
3rd lowest beer of the day. Jason’s 66 score knocked it down from
an 83.83 (and second place) into 5th. From a beer that has roots
tracing back into the 1990s, Racer 5 made a very strong
showing.

#4 Alpine Beer Company – Duet
Average Score: 79.5
Distribution: 6 states

Alpine Beer Company – Duet

We went in depth comparing Alpine Duet vs. Green
Flash Duet way back in season 2, episode
32
, and we had high praises for both versions then. Some might
think that having the smallest distribution footprint (even after
the Green Flash acquisition) would give this beer an unfair
advantage, but the gang was divided on this beer in this showdown.
Jason and John really liked it and considered it an above average
beer. Greg and Matt, on the other hand, thought it was fairly ho
hum. In the end, Alpine Duet scored solidly and
placed above the middle of the field. 

#3 Green Flash Brewing Company – West Coast IPA
Average Score: 82
Distribution: 46 states

Green Flash Brewing Company
– West Coast IPA

While it kinda seems like a double up to have Green
Flash
 and Alpine in the same showdown, the West
Coast IPA
 is a classic and acts as a solid representative
of the style. But you wouldn’t know that to listen to our notes, as
we made it a huge point to talk about how not West Coast the beer
is. It was a bit maltier and danker than we expected, and while our
initial reactions were a bit reserved, upon digging into our
glasses we came to really enjoy it. We didn’t absolutely love the
aroma, but the flavor really brought us around. Between this beer
and Alpine at number 4, Green Flash made a strong showing as a
brewery. 

#2 Ballast Point Brewing and Spirits – Sculpin IPA
Average Score: 82.5
Distribution: 34 states

Ballast Point Brewing and
Spirits – Sculpin IPA

Sculpin is the beer that really put Ballast
Point
 on the map after their World Beer Cup Win in 2010.
It quickly rocketed from a limited seasonal beer into a flagship
and now one of the most readily available IPAs in the markets that
get Ballast Point. An established favorite with Jason, this beer
impressed the gang with it’s more modern IPA style and tropical
fruit notes. Greg appreciated the malt character while Jason liked
the lingering dankness. It hit everyone’s palate in a just the
right way that took led it to barely edge out the competition from
Green Flash. 

#1 Firestone Walker Brewing Company – Union Jack IPA
Average Score: 89
Distribution: 22 states

Firestone Walker Brewing
Company – Union Jack IPA

Union Jack is considered by Matt to be the Rodney
Dangerfield of the California IPA world. While very widely
available, it does not usually get a lot of accolades from the beer
world. It also suffered from being the oldest beer in our flight,
bottled on 2/9/2016! Despite that, this beer wowed us. We loved the
aroma, and loved the beer in just about every way. It seemed to
walk the tightrope between malty and dry, hoppy and bitter, and
came in right in the sweet spot for our palates. It was the second
highest rated beer from John, and the highest rated from Matt,
Jason and Greg. Despite being counted out by Jason going into the
showdown, Firestone continues their dominance in 4B Blind
Showdowns and tops the podium again. We promise we’re not getting
kickbacks from them, you guys. 

In case you wanted to see the individual scores, here it is:

The IPA Showdown Score Sheet

So, there you have it.

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Beers from this week’s episode:
Alpine Beer Company – Duet
AleSmith Brewing Company – IPA
Ballast Point Brewing and Spirits – Sculpin IPA
Stone Brewing Co. – Stone IPA
Sierra Nevada Brewing Co. – Torpedo Extra IPA
Bear Republic Brewing Co. – Racer 5 IPA
Lagunitas Brewing Company – IPA
Firestone Walker Brewing Company – Union Jack IPA
Green Flash Brewing Company – West Coast IPA (2016)

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