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Criminal defense attorneys Jessa Nicholson Goetz and Nicholas (Nick) Gansner discuss high profile trials, defense strategies, popular culture’s fixation on crime, and all other things related to criminal justice and criminal law. We try to use actual trial records and motions to explain how a verdict is reached in cases that surprise people, and to highlight some lesser known cases. We also like to talk about bail, criminal justice reform, juvenile justice, etc. We think we are kind of funny some days, and hope you do, too. Other days, we're pretty angry, and we hope you are, too. This is unedited and low-fi, so if you're skilled in sound engineering or production, we'll probably drive you crazy (apologies in advance.)

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Criminal defense attorneys Jessa Nicholson Goetz and Nicholas (Nick) Gansner discuss high profile trials, defense strategies, popular culture’s fixation on crime, and all other things related to criminal justice and criminal law. We try to use actual trial records and motions to explain how a verdict is reached in cases that surprise people, and to highlight some lesser known cases. We also like to talk about bail, criminal justice reform, juvenile justice, etc. We think we are kind of funny some days, and hope you do, too. Other days, we're pretty angry, and we hope you are, too. This is unedited and low-fi, so if you're skilled in sound engineering or production, we'll probably drive you crazy (apologies in advance.)

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Great show!!

By Square Tony - Nov 13 2019
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Jessa/Nick: love your podcast. Find myself laughing out loud at inconvenient moments (airport, gym, etc.). Tony

Keep it up

By Chef Phish 843 - Oct 02 2019
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Are you guys screwing? Seems like you should

iTunes Ratings

578 Ratings
Average Ratings
457
28
14
9
70

Great show!!

By Square Tony - Nov 13 2019
Read more
Jessa/Nick: love your podcast. Find myself laughing out loud at inconvenient moments (airport, gym, etc.). Tony

Keep it up

By Chef Phish 843 - Oct 02 2019
Read more
Are you guys screwing? Seems like you should
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Getting Off

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Criminal defense attorneys Jessa Nicholson Goetz and Nicholas (Nick) Gansner discuss high profile trials, defense strategies, popular culture’s fixation on crime, and all other things related to criminal justice and criminal law. We try to use actual trial records and motions to explain how a verdict is reached in cases that surprise people, and to highlight some lesser known cases. We also like to talk about bail, criminal justice reform, juvenile justice, etc. We think we are kind of funny some days, and hope you do, too. Other days, we're pretty angry, and we hope you are, too. This is unedited and low-fi, so if you're skilled in sound engineering or production, we'll probably drive you crazy (apologies in advance.)

Rank #1: 236: Ep.236: Amber Guyger, Part 1

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Jessa and Nick -- hot off the presses -- open up the discussion about off-duty officer Amber Guyger's homicide trial & sentencing.  Shout out to Lisa Strawn for a major assist on our audio.  Lisa is the genius behind the True Crime Podcast Festival -- check out https://tcpf2019.com/ for more info. We'll be live there next summer!

Oct 17 2019

51mins

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Rank #2: 223: Ep.223: Mary Kay Letourneau Crossover w/LANSC, Part 1

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Jessa and Nick are joined by two kick-ass doctors, Shiloh and Scott, to discuss the Mary Kay Letourneau case.  In this episode, you'll get the facts and some of the legal quirks.  In the next episode, which you'll find on L.A. Not So Confidential's feed next week, will talk to you about the psychology behind female sex offending, gender issues in criminal cases, and much more!

Aug 15 2019

49mins

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Rank #3: 159: Ep.159: David Camm, Part 1

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Jessa and Nick timeline the multiple trials and appeals of the David Camm case.

Jan 03 2019

34mins

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Rank #4: 3: Ep. 3: People v. Brock Turner, Part 1

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Nick & Jessa discuss the Brock Turner case in a two part episode. This covers the facts of the case and some of the pretrial issues. Part 2 covers the trial and sentencing.

Nov 15 2017

1hr 2mins

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Rank #5: 51: Ep. 51: State v. Casey Anthony, Part I

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Nick and Jessa talk about the extremely weird circumstances that led up to the capital trial of Casey Anthony.  We cannot stress enough: THIS CASE IS SO WEIRD.

Jan 31 2018

1hr 8mins

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Rank #6: 108: Ep. 108: Warren Jeffs, Part 1

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Jessa and Nick are back with a professional ass theme song (thank you, Jenn Beaupre!!!) and allllllll the child rape. It's a rough one, guys. Seriously. Jessa did her level best to avoid making terrible comments about religion (and probably failed.) There are also jokes about being on the lam, and a mini-interview with podcaster Jim Perry.

UPDATE: in our zeal to play the fabulous theme song we have, we cut the first minute of jabbering in which we explain that we can’t do the Dee Dee Blanchard case because the codefendant boyfriend of Gypsy isn’t set to go to trial until November of 2018. That’s what you missed.

PS—Justin, is it Some Other Bitch Did It???

PPS—Nope, Jessa figured it out. SOME OTHER BIRD DID IT!!!

Jul 12 2018

1hr 16mins

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Rank #7: 174: Ep.174: Another Perspective: An Introduction to Sandra Melgar

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Nick and Jessa are diving into a controversial case that has gotten a lot of publicity recently.  Here's our introduction with primers on how we define "direct" and "circumstantial" evidence, and discuss what we hope to add to the conversation.

Feb 25 2019

49mins

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Rank #8: 4: Ep. 4: Brock the Casbah (People v. Brock Turner, Part 2)

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Nick & Jessa conclude their discussion of the Brock Turner case, including trial and sentencing. #lawpod #truecrime

Nov 18 2017

1hr 25mins

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Rank #9: 57: Ep. 57: Michael Peterson, Part 1

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Jessa and Nick are back, and launch into the North Carolina homicide case involving Michael Peterson.

Feb 12 2018

1hr 12mins

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Rank #10: 219: Ep.219: Jeffrey Epstein, Part 1

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Nick and Jessa talk about what the allegations were out of Palm Beach, Florida and the Federal Southern District of Florida against Jeffrey Epstein in from roughly 2001-2007, and explain some of the ways that the victims' notification rights were violated as part of the NPA.

Jul 31 2019

46mins

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Rank #11: 72: Ep. 72: Michelle Carter, Part 1

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In honor of discussing limitations on our protected rights, like freedom of speech, Jessa and Nick bring you case coverage of the "texting homicide" case of Michelle Carter.

This episode is proudly sponsored by Casper mattresses.  Check out our ad and use our promo code to get $50 off select mattresses.

Mar 22 2018

1hr 3mins

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Rank #12: 212: Ep.212: The Murder of Jessica Dishon, Part 1

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This was a patron request! Nick and Jessa talk about the twists and turns of the Jessica Dishon homicide.

Jul 07 2019

42mins

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Rank #13: 95: Ep. 95: Jodi Arias, Part 1

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Jessa and Nick are reunited after Jessa's vacation and are pretty flippant and basically assholes while reciting the facts of the Jodi Arias case.

***WARNING: This particular episode contains sexually graphic content, violent content, and some majorly sarcastic and un-PC commentary about religion.  If that sort of thing offends you, this is probably not the episode for you.

May 28 2018

1hr 4mins

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Rank #14: 69: Ep. 69: Scott Peterson, Part 1: Audio Corrected

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So, Jessa's splice and dice editing didn't go over so well.  Here's the proper version of Nick & Jessa diving into Scott Peterson's case.

Mar 19 2018

44mins

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Rank #15: 52: Ep. 52: Casey Anthony, Part II

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Jessa and Nick struggle to work through the evidence presented at trial and reconcile it with the verdict.

Feb 01 2018

1hr 44mins

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Rank #16: 186: Ep.186: This is Criminal Justice in America. (MELGAR: THE FINAL CONCLUSION.)

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Here it is.  Jessa and Nick start off by sharing their (divergent) views on how they each would've voted based on the trial record in Melgar, but more importantly, they talk about why this particular high profile case is so important to talk about in considering larger issues of criminal justice reform.  More importantly yet, they talk about what you can do about it.  And, unlike their usual sparse notations, here are some links that give the option of donating time or money to support criminal justice reform.  Please consider spending some time with one of these organizations.

We hope that we've given new listeners something to think about, and now, we'll be back to the usual.  Our next episode will be an introduction to the most recent Listener's Choice vote: Andrea Yates.

https://www.namaste.org/blog/exceptional-nonprofits-in-criminal-justice-reform

http://gideonat50.org/in-your-state/

https://neaedjustice.org/social-justice-issues/ending-the-school-to-prison-pipeline/

https://www.innocenceproject.org/

Here's a link to a site where you can educate yourself on local judges and prosecutors running for election in your area:

https://ballotpedia.org/Main_Page

And finally, here are links to the murder mystery subscription services Jessa mentions:

https://www.huntakiller.com/

https://www.emptyfaces.com/

Apr 08 2019

1hr 26mins

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Rank #17: 86: Ep. 86: The Menendez Brothers, Part I

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Continuing our April theme of family violence, we tackle a "biggie" in this and the next episode -- the Menendez Brothers, dirty psychologists, mistresses, parricide, and Jessa's massive girl-crush on defense attorney Leslie Abramson all come up.

Apr 26 2018

44mins

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Rank #18: 73: Ep. 73: Michelle Carter, Part 2

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Jessa and Nick conclude their discussion of the Michelle Carter case, and get a little emotional about the topic of teen suicide.  We might be out of our lanes on this one, but we're COMPASSIONATELY out of our lanes.

Mar 26 2018

1hr 8mins

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Rank #19: 20: Ep. 20: 12Play: R.Kelly, Part 1.

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Strap in, everybody. This is about to be the longest timeline EVER. Nick & Jessa start to unpack the wild and probably illegal world of R.Kelly.

*Disclaimer: R.Kelly has never been convicted of a sex crime. When we say "probably", we aren't basing that on, like, the law and stuff.

Dec 17 2017

47mins

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Rank #20: 130: Ep.130: The "Slender Man Stabbing", Part 1

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Nick and Jessa get paranormal on your asses and discuss the urban myth of Slender Man and the competency and juvenile jurisdiction issues surrounding the cases of Morgan Geyser and Anissa Weier.

Sep 27 2018

56mins

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