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Money goes where it's treated best. That simple truth is a big reason why more and more money—trillions, in fact—flows into a powerful, low-cost tool that's quietly transformed investing in recent years. Exchange-traded funds, or ETFs, let you invest in everything from the stock market to gold like never before. This biweekly podcast will demystify them—and delight you in the process.

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Money goes where it's treated best. That simple truth is a big reason why more and more money—trillions, in fact—flows into a powerful, low-cost tool that's quietly transformed investing in recent years. Exchange-traded funds, or ETFs, let you invest in everything from the stock market to gold like never before. This biweekly podcast will demystify them—and delight you in the process.

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Great podcast

By skoehl - Jan 25 2019
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Well done, insightful, informative, engaging, and a great podcast overall.

March madness

By FundMel - Jul 13 2018
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The March madness competition was so fun! Thank you all

iTunes Ratings

114 Ratings
Average Ratings
83
11
10
3
7

Great podcast

By skoehl - Jan 25 2019
Read more
Well done, insightful, informative, engaging, and a great podcast overall.

March madness

By FundMel - Jul 13 2018
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The March madness competition was so fun! Thank you all
Cover image of Trillions

Trillions

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Money goes where it's treated best. That simple truth is a big reason why more and more money—trillions, in fact—flows into a powerful, low-cost tool that's quietly transformed investing in recent years. Exchange-traded funds, or ETFs, let you invest in everything from the stock market to gold like never before. This biweekly podcast will demystify them—and delight you in the process.

Rank #1: The Paradox of Choice

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Right now there are about  2,100 ETFs -- 2,078 if you want to get specific about it. That's a lot of stuff to choose from. How should you approach navigating a store with this much selection? One aisle at a time.

On the second episode of Bloomberg’s new podcast, Trillions, we take a stroll through the most popular aisles to meet some ETFs and get a better sense of the offerings. From the Cheerios of equities to the fresh produce of bonds, this episode provides an entertaining and incredibly simple way to make sense of ETFs and why they allow investors to ride capitalists' coattails.
Dec 14 2017
23 mins
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Rank #2: Under the Hood

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What questions should you ask about an ETF before you make an investment? What about when two or three ETFs seem practically the same? In this episode, Todd Rosenbluth, a mutual fund and ETF analyst with CFRA, joins the podcast to discuss his due diligence checklist. This is a topic that can get weedy in a hurry; if you're new to ETFs, just think of it like you're looking under the hood of a car. Start by evaluating the holdings, weightings, and costs, and then you can start wading into next-level stuff like liquidity and volatility. By the end of this episode, you'll learn how expert analysts view any ETF.
Dec 28 2017
51 mins
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Rank #3: Barry Ritholtz: Use Your Disillusion I

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This week on Trillions, Joel and Eric record the podcast equivalent of a double-album with Barry Ritholtz, an ETF-using financial advisor as well as a Bloomberg Opinion columnist, host of the Bloomberg podcast "Masters in Business," and overall deep thinker. In addition to ETFs, the trio discusses investing, the economy, the role of the modern financial adviser, tariffs, Trump, and even God. We're calling this special body of work "Use Your Disillusion I & II," a nod to the seminal Guns N' Roses album. Why? Because - according to Barry - disillusionment is a major driver behind the rise of ETFs and passive investing.
Aug 23 2018
59 mins
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Rank #4: Barry Ritholtz: Use Your Disillusion II

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This week on Trillions, Joel and Eric record the podcast equivalent of a double-album with Barry Ritholtz, an ETF-using financial advisor as well as a Bloomberg Opinion columnist, host of the Bloomberg podcast "Masters in Business," and overall deep thinker. In addition to ETFs, the trio discusses investing, the economy, the role of the modern financial adviser, tariffs, Trump, and even God. We're calling this special body of work "Use Your Disillusion I & II," a nod to the seminal Guns N' Roses album. Why? Because - according to Barry - disillusionment is a major driver behind the rise of ETFs and passive investing.
Aug 23 2018
44 mins
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Rank #5: The ETF Space Race

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Now that pretty much everything has been ETF-ized here on Planet Earth, issuers are looking beyond this world into the final frontier: space. While this may sound "out there," analysts expect the industry to grow to over $3 trillion in the next 30 years. But how, exactly, do you invest in space? What do the ETFs hold? And what about aliens? 

On this episode , Bloomberg News reporter Rachel Evans takes a field trip into the world of space exploration for a closer look of the nascent industry and a better understanding of the ETFs offering exposure. She joins Eric and Joel to discuss why capturing profits in space may take a long time.
Jan 10 2019
23 mins
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Rank #6: ETF Regime Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes

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Markets no longer look quite so utopic and a new kind of reality seems to be emerging. As investors turn defensive, ETFs that would normally be ignored or rendered useless during the FANG-topia of yesteryears -- short-term debt ETFs, utilities, and low-volatility stocks -- are seeing massive inflows and staging a comeback.

Joel and Eric are joined by Carolina Wilson of Bloomberg News and Tom Psarafagis of Bloomberg Intelligence to discuss these market "regime changes" and which ETFs are seeing the most action.
Dec 13 2018
22 mins
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Rank #7: The Mystery of Smart-Beta, Explained

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Smart-beta is one of the hottest trends in not just ETFs but all of investment management. Assets in the category have grown from $0 to almost $1 trillion in barely a decade. But what is it, exactly? 

On this week’s Trillions, Joel and Eric explore the mysteries of smart-beta. To some, it's all a mutation of passive indexing; to others, it's a better, cheaper version of active management. "Imagine R2D2 with the head of Peter Lynch," says Eric. 

And to help you understand how investors can use the products, Nir Kaissar, a Bloomberg Gadfly columnist and financial advisor, and Tom Psarofagis, an ETF analyst with Bloomberg Intelligence and former issuer of smart-beta ETFs, join to offer their perspectives.
Apr 19 2018
31 mins
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Rank #8: ETF Tank

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The market for exchange-traded funds is getting nasty. Especially for new ETFs. Carving out a niche for one is becoming increasingly difficult.

There are already more than 2,000 exchange-traded products out there and the market has started to feel saturated. Only about 1 percent of new ETF proposals actually ever make it to market. And of that 1 percent that do, 10 of them flop when they get there for every one that takes off. A great concept, a clever ticker symbol and a sharp pitch -- something that’s both clear and powerful -- are crucial. So too is lining up seed capital. An ETF’s chance of success increases markedly if it comes with some initial money behind it.

So, given this trend in the market, we dedicated this episode of Trillions to a competition in the Bloomberg newsroom -- a Shark Tank-esque sort of showdown -- to see who could come up with the best pitch for a new ETF.
Apr 04 2019
53 mins
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Rank #9: Tell Us Something We Don’t Know About QQQ

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If ETFs had a Mount Rushmore, QQQ (aka 'The Qs') would definitely be on it. This $72 billion legend of an ETF just turned 20 years old and is now the second most traded security in the world. But how much do investors really know about it? 

On this week’s Trillions Carolina Wilson of Bloomberg News sets out to the Midwest with microphone in hand to talk to those who built the original index and the ETF as well as tracked its changes over the years. Her journey lead to some interesting discoveries as well as a trip to the Chicago zoo, where she actually got a lion to roar.
May 16 2019
24 mins
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Rank #10: Inside "Inside ETFs," Part II

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The biggest exchange-traded fund conference in the world has come and gone. But we have you covered.

The event, which has grown from 450 people to over 2,000 in just 12 years, featured panels, presentations and booths on everything from artificial intelligence to environmental, social and governance (ESG) issues, and participants ranging from Paul Tudor Jones to Michael Lewis.

Aided by select interviews, Joel and Eric discuss key takeaways from the event.
Feb 21 2019
30 mins
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Rank #11: Disruption as an Investment Thesis

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Cathie Wood, founder of ARK Invest, is a successful stock picker in the era of passive. Her actively managed ETFs, which focus entirely on disruptive themes, have overcome seemingly insurmountable odds to find success both in returns and flows. Her bold calls, high conviction and transparent approach has attracted fans and investors -- along with some haters. 

On this episode of Trillions, Cathie and Rachel Evans of Bloomberg News join Joel and Eric to discuss her approach to picking stocks, identifying disruptive companies and the importance of thinking outside the box. We also explore the risks of being in such a high conviction, high active share ETF.
Jul 11 2019
47 mins
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Rank #12: The Heartbeat Trade

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ETFs provide unique tax capabilities. And according to a recent article in Bloomberg Businessweek, some of those unique capabilities are being utilized to their fullest potential. While that might actually benefit the average investor, should society examine a deal this sweet more closely?

Zach Mider and Rachel Evans of Bloomberg News join Joel and Eric to discuss their reporting, the nuances of heartbeat trades, and the controversy surrounding the article.
Apr 18 2019
28 mins
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Rank #13: Our Two Dads: A Personal Look at How (Some) Boomers Use ETFs

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Surveys have shown that millennials are adopting ETFs at a higher percentage than any other generation, whereas baby boomers remain the lowest. To conduct their own boomer survey, Eric and Joel interview the two boomer investors they know best on this holiday-edition of Trillions: their dads. The men couldn't be more different in their experiences -- one is the ying to the other's yang -- and yet both provide some profound insights into the minds of self-taught investors. They also discuss their experiences with ETFs (one prefers power tools, the other plain-vanilla products) and share what's informed their investing philosophies over the years.
Dec 27 2018
33 mins
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Rank #14: 10 Billion Served: The Unsung Role of an ETF Market Maker

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There’s been roughly 10 billion individual ETF trades in the past 25 years with almost no issues. This McDonald’s-esque track record of happy customers is one of the reasons ETFs have become so popular. One of the main reasons behind the stellar track record of trading is the important role played by ETF market makers, who provide liquidity for popular ETFs but also lesser traded ones— stepping in to be a buyer or a seller when there are none. 

On this week’s Trillions, Eric and Joel speak with veteran ETF market maker Chris Hempstead of Deutsche Bank as well as Annie Massa of Bloomberg News, who just wrote about the secretive market maker Susquehanna in the latest issue of Bloomberg Markets. The discussion covers ETF mechanics, liquidity, and poker. Yes, poker.
Nov 29 2018
34 mins
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Rank #15: This ETF is Rated R

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Leverage and inverse ETFs are the bad boys of the ETF world - akin to Rated R movies or power tools. In the hands of a trained trader they can be helpful and precise. In the hands of a novice they can cut your hand off. 

We speak with Sylvia Jablonski of Direxion, the maker of 3x ETFs about her mission to “democratize leverage.” We also demystify these sometimes demonized products and breakdown how they work, what they hold, who should and shouldn’t use them and some of the products that see the most action.
Jun 13 2019
39 mins
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Rank #16: The 2019 ETF Halftime Report

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As the second quarter comes to a close, Trillions reflects on some of the interesting trends and takeaways that have emerged so far this year -- and also explores a few things that may yet come to pass. Joel and Eric are joined by Todd Rosenbluth, ETF analyst for CFRA, and Sarah Ponczek, an ETF and markets reporter for Bloomberg News and co-host of the new What Goes Up podcast. Topics discussed by the group include fixed-income ETFs, sectors, new launches, ESG, marijuana, the non-transparent active ETF model, Michigan sports, Tom Hanks, and Family Ties.
Jun 27 2019
34 mins
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Rank #17: Moats and Boats (and Maybe a Dragon!)

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Winter is coming. Actually, it’s pretty much always winter for new ETFs. And on this Game of Thrones-inspired episode of Trillions, Joel and Eric look at two products that have managed to survive the brutal fee wars with their unique approaches: the VanEck Vectors Morningstar Wide Moat ETF (MOAT), which screens for "wide moat" companies, and the Invesco Shipping ETF (SEA), which tracks industrial shipping companies. VanEck's Brandon Rakszawski and Invesco's Nick Kalivas join Joel (a big GoT fan) and Eric (who's never seen an episode) to discuss the ETFs' strategies, fees, and performance -- as well as the upcoming final season of the hit show. Oh, and did we mention the dragon cameo?
Mar 07 2019
28 mins
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Rank #18: Less Than Zero: A Look Into a Wild Two Weeks in the ETF Fee War

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After a fairly long period of peace in the ETF Fee War, an unprecedented outbreak occurred, which saw about 10 different issuers reducing or undercutting costs on a few dozen products, which included the first zero and negative fee ETFs. 

Smaller issuers such as SoFi and Salt have participated alongside market leaders BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street. Joel and Eric are joined by Rachel Evans of Bloomberg News for a dive into this two week fee cutting frenzy to break down what it means for investors and the industry.
Mar 21 2019
35 mins
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Rank #19: ETF Rising Stars

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While the very largest ETFs attract the bulk of flows, a few smaller products manage to beat the odds and emerge from obscurity each year to capture investors' imagination and assets. Over the past year, growth in robotics, the Internet and China have led to outsized investments into smaller ETFs. 

On this week's Trillions, Joel and Eric highlight and analyze up-and-comer ETFs of the past, present and future. They are joined by Bloomberg News' Carolina Wilson on a mission to find the next big things in ETF Land.
Apr 05 2018
32 mins
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Rank #20: Showtime with Scarlet Fu

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You know ETFs have gone mainstream when there are multiple TV shows about them, including Bloomberg’s own ETF IQ. Nearing its 100th episode, the show is co-hosted by veteran Bloomberg TV anchor Scarlet Fu and Eric. On this episode of Trillions, Scarlet and Eric take Joel behind-the-scenes of the fast-paced show, pick some of their favorite moments with noteworthy guests, and also deconstruct a few lessons from the ever-evolving ETF industry.
Aug 08 2019
42 mins
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