Alan O'Hashi

Author and documentarian Alan O'Hashi shares with Steve &amp; Tammy highlights from his book Beyond Heart Mountain including the impact the internment of Japanese - Americans during WW2 had on his family and the Japanese community in the American West.  Along the way, we discuss Alan's experiences living in an intentional community and the advantages and challenges that come from that.  Go Beyond the Pale with Alan O'Hashi!   Find Beyond Heart Mountain  here  Alan's YouTube channel can be found here

Author and documentarian Alan O'Hashi shares with Steve &amp; Tammy highlights from his book Beyond Heart Mountain including the impact the internment of Japanese - Americans during WW2 had on his family and the Japanese community in the American West.  Along the way, we discuss Alan's experiences living in an intentional community and the advantages and challenges that come from that. Go Beyond the Pale with Alan O'Hashi!  Find Beyond Heart Mountain <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Heart-Mountain-Alan-OHashi/dp/1952909147/ref=sr_1_5?crid=678FBD7UYWJP&amp;keywords=alan+o+hashi&amp;qid=1683344682&amp;sprefix=alan+o+hashi%2Caps%2C755&amp;sr=8-5" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> here A</a>lan's YouTube channel can be found <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@AlanOHashiStarvingArtist" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>

Episode 132: Beyond Heart Mountain with Alan O'Hashi

Keith Giles

Author &amp; speaker Keith Giles returns to discuss with Steve &amp; Tammy his new book Sola Mysterium: Celebrating the Beautiful Uncertainty of Everything. If God is a Being that transcends imagination, how we can learn to embrace mystery of Christ.  Along the way, Keith shares how Charismatics can understand their experiences, re-wiring your mind for "gratitude", and why it's often scientists, and not theologians, who convey a sense of wonder of the Universe. Go Beyond the Pale with Keith Giles! Episode Index  1:16 - Intro with Steve &amp; Tammy 11:30 - That time when we “know” everything 12:20 - Intro to “Sola Mysterium” 15:59 - What to do with our “charismatic” experiences? 22:44 - “Everyone is hypnotised on a daily basis” 28:30 - Blurring the line between natural &amp; supernatural 34:44 - Why quantum physics scientists are starting to sound like theologians 42:02 - Why “Sola Mysterium” 43: 56 - Can we “rewire” our brain toward gratitude? 52:59 - J.J. Abrams &amp; his Mystery Box 57:40 - The wonder found in Creation Find out more about Keith's books, classes, and content here: https://www.bk2sq1.com/aboutme

Author &amp; speaker Keith Giles returns to discuss with Steve &amp; Tammy his new book Sola Mysterium: Celebrating the Beautiful Uncertainty of Everything. If God is a Being that transcends imagination, how we can learn to embrace mystery of Christ.  Along the way, Keith shares how Charismatics can understand their experiences, re-wiring your mind for "gratitude", and why it's often scientists, and not theologians, who convey a sense of wonder of the Universe. Go Beyond the Pale with Keith Giles! Episode Index 1:16 - Intro with Steve &amp; Tammy 11:30 - That time when we “know” everything 12:20 - Intro to “Sola Mysterium” 15:59 - What to do with our “charismatic” experiences? 22:44 - “Everyone is hypnotised on a daily basis” 28:30 - Blurring the line between natural &amp; supernatural 34:44 - Why quantum physics scientists are starting to sound like theologians 42:02 - Why “Sola Mysterium” 43: 56 - Can we “rewire” our brain toward gratitude? 52:59 - J.J. Abrams &amp; his Mystery Box 57:40 - The wonder found in Creation Find out more about Keith's books, classes, and content here: <a href="https://www.bk2sq1.com/aboutme" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.bk2sq1.com/aboutme</a>

Episode 131: Sola Mysterium with with Keith Giles

Keith Giles returns to the podcast to discuss with Steve &amp; Tammy his final book in the seven part "un" series Jesus Unarmed: How the Prince of Peace Disarms our Violence.  Along the way Keith also explains where American Christians get their fascination with "redemptive violence", why Evangelicals should re-think their "End Times" theology, and what God really meant when he said we should "be Holy as he is Holy".  Go Beyond the Pale with Keith Giles Episode Index  1:51 - Intro discussion with Steve and Tammy 12:31 - Conversation with Keith begins 16:02 - “All my heroes carried guns” 23:10 - Did Jesus ever use violence? 31:04 - It’s hard to introduce Jesus to Christians 44:18 - Re thinking the “End Times” 49:19 - How to really be “Holy as God is Holy”

Keith Giles returns to the podcast to discuss with Steve &amp; Tammy his final book in the seven part "un" series Jesus Unarmed: How the Prince of Peace Disarms our Violence.  Along the way Keith also explains where American Christians get their fascination with "redemptive violence", why Evangelicals should re-think their "End Times" theology, and what God really meant when he said we should "be Holy as he is Holy". Go Beyond the Pale with Keith Giles Episode Index 1:51 - Intro discussion with Steve and Tammy 12:31 - Conversation with Keith begins 16:02 - “All my heroes carried guns” 23:10 - Did Jesus ever use violence? 31:04 - It’s hard to introduce Jesus to Christians 44:18 - Re thinking the “End Times” 49:19 - How to really be “Holy as God is Holy”

Episode 130: Jesus Unarmed with Keith Giles

Brian Zahnd

Brian Zahnd returns to Beyond the Pale to discuss his new book When Everything Is On Fire and how despite a season of doubt and deconstruction a stronger, more confident faith is possible when it is grounded in the beauty of Christ. Along the way Brian discusses pilgrimage, contemplation,  and how his journey on the Camino de Santiago inspired the book. Go Beyond the Pale with Brian Zahnd  Episode Index 2:06 - Intro with Steve &amp; Tammy 11:06 - Conversation with Brian begins 13:04 - Brian and Peri share about about pilgrimage 24:26 - Talking all things Camino de Santiago 30:00 - Brian discusses his new book “When Everything is on Fire” 34:46 - Deconstructing and renovating our faith 37:25 - Beauty will Save the World 51:50 - Notre Dame is on Fire 1:02:34 - Christians of the future

Brian Zahnd returns to Beyond the Pale to discuss his new book When Everything Is On Fire and how despite a season of doubt and deconstruction a stronger, more confident faith is possible when it is grounded in the beauty of Christ. Along the way Brian discusses pilgrimage, contemplation,  and how his journey on the Camino de Santiago inspired the book. Go Beyond the Pale with Brian Zahnd Episode Index 2:06 - Intro with Steve &amp; Tammy 11:06 - Conversation with Brian begins 13:04 - Brian and Peri share about about pilgrimage 24:26 - Talking all things Camino de Santiago 30:00 - Brian discusses his new book “When Everything is on Fire” 34:46 - Deconstructing and renovating our faith 37:25 - Beauty will Save the World 51:50 - Notre Dame is on Fire 1:02:34 - Christians of the future

Episode 129: When Everything is on Fire with Brian Zahnd

Simon Ramacci

Simon Rammaci has been active in sharing with Christians that to follow Christ is to be a peacemaker.  He discusses with Beyond the Pale his work with various groups including the Christian Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament to help promote non-violent alternatives in today's increasingly volatile world. Along the way Simon shares a bit of his faith journey which led him from his homeland of Italy to working with various churches in the U.K. Go Beyond the Pale with Simon Ramacci!  Episode Index 1:20 - Intro with Steve 3:34 - Conversation with Simon Ramacci begins 4:03 - From Italy to the U.K. 9:33 - Orthopraxy vs. Orthodoxy 16:45 - Discovering a theology of non-violence 36:57 - Helping Christians to see the Christ Way of non-violence

Simon Rammaci has been active in sharing with Christians that to follow Christ is to be a peacemaker.  He discusses with Beyond the Pale his work with various groups including the Christian Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament to help promote non-violent alternatives in today's increasingly volatile world. Along the way Simon shares a bit of his faith journey which led him from his homeland of Italy to working with various churches in the U.K. Go Beyond the Pale with Simon Ramacci! Episode Index 1:20 - Intro with Steve 3:34 - Conversation with Simon Ramacci begins 4:03 - From Italy to the U.K. 9:33 - Orthopraxy vs. Orthodoxy 16:45 - Discovering a theology of non-violence 36:57 - Helping Christians to see the Christ Way of non-violence

Episode 128: The Way of Non-Violence with Simon Ramacci

Ojo Taylor

University Professor and former bassist for the Christian punk band "Undercover" Ojo Taylor returns to discuss a recent blog post he wrote as he turned 65. Getting older ain't easy but Ojo reflects on the benefits that ageing brings including wisdom, perspective, and an understanding of what's really important in life. And of course with his very public transition from Christian musician to atheism we go on frequent tangents discussing God, faith, the nature of belief, and morality without religion...among other things! Go Beyond the Pale with Ojo Taylor! 5:23 - Conversation begins  10:23 - When "friends" unfriend over belief differences  15:57 - Discussing ageing, mortality, and stages of life  16:32 - The benefits of therapy  24:48 - Comparing ourselves to others  25:52 - With age, "Time" becomes our currency 44:56 - No longer trying to "save the world for Jesus"  53:10 - Discussing morality without religion

University Professor and former bassist for the Christian punk band "Undercover" Ojo Taylor returns to discuss a recent blog post he wrote as he turned 65. Getting older ain't easy but Ojo reflects on the benefits that ageing brings including wisdom, perspective, and an understanding of what's really important in life. And of course with his very public transition from Christian musician to atheism we go on frequent tangents discussing God, faith, the nature of belief, and morality without religion...among other things! Go Beyond the Pale with Ojo Taylor! 5:23 - Conversation begins 10:23 - When "friends" unfriend over belief differences 15:57 - Discussing ageing, mortality, and stages of life 16:32 - The benefits of therapy 24:48 - Comparing ourselves to others 25:52 - With age, "Time" becomes our currency 44:56 - No longer trying to "save the world for Jesus" 53:10 - Discussing morality without religion

Episode 127: Mortality, Morality, and Religion with Ojo Taylor

Hannah Land

Hannah Land is an Occupational Therapist and administrator for the online community Progressing Church.  She joins Beyond the Pale to discuss the how theology can be employed to address the personal suffering and trauma experienced by many.  Along the way she opens up about her own experience with sexual abuse as well as sharing some of the life giving understanding of Christ that have helped her and others on their journey.  We also touch on spiritual deconstruction and the process of engaging with others. Go Beyond the Pale with Hannah Land! Episode Index 1:08 - Intro with Steve &amp; Tammy 9:00 - Conversation with Hannah begins 10:47 - What is trauma theology? 18:00 - Hannah shares her personal experience 20:39 - Jesus &amp; the trauma he experienced 32:41 - Spiritual Deconstruction- Is it just a "white people" thing?  42:40 - When is it OK to provoke other people?  

Hannah Land is an Occupational Therapist and administrator for the online community Progressing Church.  She joins Beyond the Pale to discuss the how theology can be employed to address the personal suffering and trauma experienced by many.  Along the way she opens up about her own experience with sexual abuse as well as sharing some of the life giving understanding of Christ that have helped her and others on their journey.  We also touch on spiritual deconstruction and the process of engaging with others. Go Beyond the Pale with Hannah Land! Episode Index 1:08 - Intro with Steve &amp; Tammy 9:00 - Conversation with Hannah begins 10:47 - What is trauma theology? 18:00 - Hannah shares her personal experience 20:39 - Jesus &amp; the trauma he experienced 32:41 - Spiritual Deconstruction- Is it just a "white people" thing? 42:40 - When is it OK to provoke other people?

Episode 126: Trauma Theology with Hannah Land

The release of Denis Villeneuve's much anticipated adaption of Frank Herbert's "Dune" has drawn the inevitable comparisons to the David Lynch's 1984 adaption. On today's special episode I sit down with movie critic James Marsh to do a deep dive into who really did it better; Dune 1984 or Dune 2021 Episode Index 3:20 - Paul Atreides (Kyle Maclachlan vs. Timothy Chalamet) 8:24- Do we have a bias for the 1984 Dune film 10:40 - Duke Leto (Jurgen Prochnow vs. Oscar Issacs) 15:80- Lady Jessica (Francesca Annis vs. Rebecca Ferguson) 17:11- Baron Harkonnen (Kenneth McMillan vs. Stellan Skarsgard 26:16- Supporting Cast 1984 vs Supporting Cast 2021 35:29- Faithfulness to the book 1984 vs 2021 42:28- Film Score (Toto vs. Hans Zimmer) 46:00- Final comparisons Dune 1984 vs Dune 2021

The release of Denis Villeneuve's much anticipated adaption of Frank Herbert's "Dune" has drawn the inevitable comparisons to the David Lynch's 1984 adaption. On today's special episode I sit down with movie critic James Marsh to do a deep dive into who really did it better; Dune 1984 or Dune 2021 Episode Index 3:20 - Paul Atreides (Kyle Maclachlan vs. Timothy Chalamet) 8:24- Do we have a bias for the 1984 Dune film 10:40 - Duke Leto (Jurgen Prochnow vs. Oscar Issacs) 15:80- Lady Jessica (Francesca Annis vs. Rebecca Ferguson) 17:11- Baron Harkonnen (Kenneth McMillan vs. Stellan Skarsgard 26:16- Supporting Cast 1984 vs Supporting Cast 2021 35:29- Faithfulness to the book 1984 vs 2021 42:28- Film Score (Toto vs. Hans Zimmer) 46:00- Final comparisons Dune 1984 vs Dune 2021

Special Episode: Dune 1984 vs Dune 2021

Steve Barker

Steve Barker joined us back in Episode 41 to talk about Re-Thinking Church and now comes to my rescue to help spare me of the boredom of a mandated 14 days isolation in a Hong Kong hotel room.  Along the way we discuss the COVID situation, my confirmation in the Anglican church, and making the Christian faith practical in the world around us.  Go Beyond the Pale with Steve Barker!  Episode Index 1:23 - Intro with Steve &amp; Tammy   8:37 - Conversation with Steve Barker begins  9:00 - The effects of quarantine isolation 15:15 - When do we just learn to live with Covid?  22:00 - Traveling Internationally during Covid is expensive  29:32 - Joining the Anglican church  38:19 - Musing on the need for "church"  48:26 - Practical applications of Christianity vs. "Finding God's Will for my Life"

Steve Barker joined us back in Episode 41 to talk about Re-Thinking Church and now comes to my rescue to help spare me of the boredom of a mandated 14 days isolation in a Hong Kong hotel room.  Along the way we discuss the COVID situation, my confirmation in the Anglican church, and making the Christian faith practical in the world around us. Go Beyond the Pale with Steve Barker! Episode Index 1:23 - Intro with Steve &amp; Tammy  8:37 - Conversation with Steve Barker begins 9:00 - The effects of quarantine isolation 15:15 - When do we just learn to live with Covid? 22:00 - Traveling Internationally during Covid is expensive 29:32 - Joining the Anglican church 38:19 - Musing on the need for "church" 48:26 - Practical applications of Christianity vs. "Finding God's Will for my Life"

Episode 125: Quarantine Conversations with Steve Barker

Diarmuid O'Reilly

Our Camino Tales series continues as we sit down with our pilgrim friend Diarmuid O'Reiley to discuss some of our shared adventures together on the Camino de Santiago.  Along the way Diarmuid shares a bit of his faith journey, the Lord's Prayer in Gaelic, as well as some political thoughts including an Irish perspective on America's fascination with Donald Trump.  My son Gabriel who walked our 2015 with Diarmuid also joins us in the interview. Go Beyond the Pale with Diarmuid O'Reilly! Episode Guide 1:10- (Intro) Steve in Covid quarantine 8:57 - Conversation begins &amp; Guinness is opened 10:40-  Talking Camino De Santiago 22:05-  The Lord’s Prayer in Gaelic 23:01-  Going from Catholic to Charismatic 32:31-  An Irish perspective on Donald Trump 44:20-  When the truth loses it’s currency 49:32-  Reminiscing Camino times with Diarmuid 50:35-  Taking Communion on the Camino de Santiago 1:01:01: Pilgrim friends on the Camino

Our Camino Tales series continues as we sit down with our pilgrim friend Diarmuid O'Reiley to discuss some of our shared adventures together on the Camino de Santiago.  Along the way Diarmuid shares a bit of his faith journey, the Lord's Prayer in Gaelic, as well as some political thoughts including an Irish perspective on America's fascination with Donald Trump.  My son Gabriel who walked our 2015 with Diarmuid also joins us in the interview. Go Beyond the Pale with Diarmuid O'Reilly! Episode Guide 1:10- (Intro) Steve in Covid quarantine 8:57 - Conversation begins &amp; Guinness is opened 10:40-  Talking Camino De Santiago 22:05-  The Lord’s Prayer in Gaelic 23:01-  Going from Catholic to Charismatic 32:31-  An Irish perspective on Donald Trump 44:20-  When the truth loses it’s currency 49:32-  Reminiscing Camino times with Diarmuid 50:35-  Taking Communion on the Camino de Santiago 1:01:01: Pilgrim friends on the Camino

Episode 124: Camino Tales (& Drinking Guinness) with Diarmuid O'Reilly

Beyond the Pale is a subversively sincere exploration of God, faith, life and culture hosted by former pastors and missionaries Steve &amp; Tammy Hackman. It's a podcast for that person who finds more fulfillment in the journey than in the destination and doesn't mind coloring outside the lines a bit! Join us each week as we travel on pilgrimage together. We'll ask questions, question answers, and open a bottle of wine with you as we do. (Not a particularly good wine mind you, just one Tammy says we can afford)

This is a great podcast that is applicable to real life situations. Will definitely help you.

Great podcast

Loved the 2 part series on Andrew&#39;s journey to atheism

My Brother's Journey to Atheism is a great episode

Beyond The Pale

Brad Jersak

Author, teacher, and monastery preacher Brad Jersak joins us to discuss his new book and how Christianity can recapture a more "Christ-like" identity. Along the way Brad shares his own journey and the struggles that have shaped his understanding that God is always loving and on our side.  Go Beyond the Pale with Brad Jersak! Episode Index:  1:05 - (Intro) Steve and Tammy discuss faith, weight loss, and the Rugby World Cup 18:08- Brad Jersak shares his story 28:19- Bad atonement theory is not the Gospel 36:49- Brad’s dark night of the soul 43:07- Learning from people rather than “targeting” them 46:34- Discussing Brad’s new book “A More Christ-like Way” 48:47- “Christians” vs. “Christ-followers” 57:08- Brad shares with Tammy some steps to help her develop a contemplative faith without jettisoning the Holy Spirit 1:06:17 Brad contemplates walking the Camino de Santiago 1:07:22- A more Christ-like Way is inclusive

Author, teacher, and monastery preacher Brad Jersak joins us to discuss his new book and how Christianity can recapture a more "Christ-like" identity. Along the way Brad shares his own journey and the struggles that have shaped his understanding that God is always loving and on our side. Go Beyond the Pale with Brad Jersak! Episode Index: 1:05 - (Intro) Steve and Tammy discuss faith, weight loss, and the Rugby World Cup 18:08- Brad Jersak shares his story 28:19- Bad atonement theory is not the Gospel 36:49- Brad’s dark night of the soul 43:07- Learning from people rather than “targeting” them 46:34- Discussing Brad’s new book “A More Christ-like Way” 48:47- “Christians” vs. “Christ-followers” 57:08- Brad shares with Tammy some steps to help her develop a contemplative faith without jettisoning the Holy Spirit 1:06:17 Brad contemplates walking the Camino de Santiago 1:07:22- A more Christ-like Way is inclusive

Episode 101: A More Christ-like Way with Brad Jersak

We continue our discussion with Rebekah Pine and hear more of her journey as a young Christian living in Egypt and Jordan. Now a wife and mother of three young children Rebekah goes on to explain how her work in the Middle-East isn't over as she returns to Jordan to work with refugees fleeing the Syrian civil war.  Show Index: 1:57 (Intro) Steve &amp; Tammy discuss “The Shack” 13:19 Rebekah shares what it was like being a Christian with a Muslim roommate 26:24 Life as a Syrian refugee in Jordan today 39:57 Having the support of family and church to return to Jordan 43:42 Rebekah shares some last thoughts and hope for the refugee situation in the middle-east

We continue our discussion with Rebekah Pine and hear more of her journey as a young Christian living in Egypt and Jordan. Now a wife and mother of three young children Rebekah goes on to explain how her work in the Middle-East isn't over as she returns to Jordan to work with refugees fleeing the Syrian civil war. Show Index: 1:57 (Intro) Steve &amp; Tammy discuss “The Shack” 13:19 Rebekah shares what it was like being a Christian with a Muslim roommate 26:24 Life as a Syrian refugee in Jordan today 39:57 Having the support of family and church to return to Jordan 43:42 Rebekah shares some last thoughts and hope for the refugee situation in the middle-east

Episode 058: A Christian Girl Explores the Muslim World with Rebekah Pine (Pt 2)

Paul Ellis

Paul Ellis has impacted and inspired tens of thousands across the world with the message of God's unconditional love for them through his award winning books as well as his Escape to Reality blog. On today's episode Paul shares with Steve &amp; Tammy the journey he has walked and the insights into God and Life he has learned along the way. Get ready to go Beyond the Pale with Paul Ellis! Show Notes: 4:50- (Intro) Walking across Europe &amp; Tammy’s new dogs 8:17- Paul’s early life 12:50- Paul’s story arriving in Hong Kong 15:44- From university professor to pastor 19:47- Introduced to Grace 28:54- Why Christians mix Jesus &amp; The Law 40:11- Escape to Reality 47:00- Why some Christians struggle with a God without conditions

Paul Ellis has impacted and inspired tens of thousands across the world with the message of God's unconditional love for them through his award winning books as well as his Escape to Reality blog. On today's episode Paul shares with Steve &amp; Tammy the journey he has walked and the insights into God and Life he has learned along the way. Get ready to go Beyond the Pale with Paul Ellis! Show Notes: 4:50- (Intro) Walking across Europe &amp; Tammy’s new dogs 8:17- Paul’s early life 12:50- Paul’s story arriving in Hong Kong 15:44- From university professor to pastor 19:47- Introduced to Grace 28:54- Why Christians mix Jesus &amp; The Law 40:11- Escape to Reality 47:00- Why some Christians struggle with a God without conditions

Episode 063: My Journey into Grace with Paul Ellis

Marylou Verberne

Marylou Verberne is in many ways a Renaissance woman. She is skilled in just so many fields including law, education, and the dramatic arts including creating powerful performance art that have wowed audiences at International Fringe festivals in her native Australia . In Part 1 of our conversation Marylou shares about her early Christian experiences including the challenges she had adapting to Evangelical Christian culture and working for the church. Get Ready to Go Beyond the Pale with Marylou Verberne Episode index:  1:03- Intro with Steve &amp; Tam (Guest intro and holiday happenings) 19:00- Marylou begins her story 25:50 - Challenges adapting to church culture 33:20- Doing a “church” performance at a “fringe festival” 44:20 - When a church fires you 53:50- Foundational "cracks" within the modern church

Marylou Verberne is in many ways a Renaissance woman. She is skilled in just so many fields including law, education, and the dramatic arts including creating powerful performance art that have wowed audiences at International Fringe festivals in her native Australia . In Part 1 of our conversation Marylou shares about her early Christian experiences including the challenges she had adapting to Evangelical Christian culture and working for the church. Get Ready to Go Beyond the Pale with Marylou Verberne Episode index: 1:03- Intro with Steve &amp; Tam (Guest intro and holiday happenings) 19:00- Marylou begins her story 25:50 - Challenges adapting to church culture 33:20- Doing a “church” performance at a “fringe festival” 44:20 - When a church fires you 53:50- Foundational "cracks" within the modern church

Episode 082: The "Ups" and "Downs" of Becoming a Christian with Marylou Verberne

Rich Kifer

Youth Pastor Rich Kifer, a previous guest on Beyond the Pale, asked if he could chat with me by phone to discuss some questions as he deconstructs, and attempts to reconstruct, his faith. He kindly allowed me to record our conversation as I suggested it might help others who are also processing their faith. Along the way Rich and I discuss hell, suffering, Biblical violence, and some bad church experiences. I even share about the time the church board shut down my high school dance. Yes, Footloose is not just a movie for me. Get ready to go Beyond the Pale with Rich Kifer Show Index:  0:53 (Intro) Steve in London England 9:30- Why I can't be an atheist 13:05- Bible Literalism? 24:45- Deconstructing Hell &amp; Salvation 35:30 - Changing "how" we believe rather than "what" we believe 47:09 On Suffering 1:09:28- Reconstruction

Youth Pastor Rich Kifer, a previous guest on Beyond the Pale, asked if he could chat with me by phone to discuss some questions as he deconstructs, and attempts to reconstruct, his faith. He kindly allowed me to record our conversation as I suggested it might help others who are also processing their faith. Along the way Rich and I discuss hell, suffering, Biblical violence, and some bad church experiences. I even share about the time the church board shut down my high school dance. Yes, Footloose is not just a movie for me. Get ready to go Beyond the Pale with Rich Kifer Show Index: 0:53 (Intro) Steve in London England 9:30- Why I can't be an atheist 13:05- Bible Literalism? 24:45- Deconstructing Hell &amp; Salvation 35:30 - Changing "how" we believe rather than "what" we believe 47:09 On Suffering 1:09:28- Reconstruction

Episode 067: Deconstructing & Reconstructing Faith with Rich Kifer

Brian Zahnd returns to share with us topics from his new book Postcards from Babylon: The Church in American Exile. Along the way Brian discusses why so many American Christians have traded "the Way of Jesus" for religious nationalism as well as explaining to Tammy what "the Satan" actually is. Go Beyond the Pale with Brian Zahnd! Show Notes:  1:42: (Intro) Steve &amp; Tammy discuss the sudden passing of Rachel Held Evans 16:00: Why the Jesus Movement Generation has embraced religious nationalism 20:44 Playing the “Jesus Card” in refuting religious nationalism 25:02 Liberating Jesus from “the Red, White, and Blue” 29:47 Front lines of Christianity: San Francisco or the Bible Belt? 36:36 What is “the Satan”?

Brian Zahnd returns to share with us topics from his new book Postcards from Babylon: The Church in American Exile. Along the way Brian discusses why so many American Christians have traded "the Way of Jesus" for religious nationalism as well as explaining to Tammy what "the Satan" actually is. Go Beyond the Pale with Brian Zahnd! Show Notes: 1:42: (Intro) Steve &amp; Tammy discuss the sudden passing of Rachel Held Evans 16:00: Why the Jesus Movement Generation has embraced religious nationalism 20:44 Playing the “Jesus Card” in refuting religious nationalism 25:02 Liberating Jesus from “the Red, White, and Blue” 29:47 Front lines of Christianity: San Francisco or the Bible Belt? 36:36 What is “the Satan”?

Episode 090: Postcards from Babylon with Brian Zahnd

Author, blogger, and podcast host Keith Giles shares a journey that led him away from the traditional church pulpit to planting a house church that gave away ALL money collected to the poor. No salaries, no building, not even for the Sunday morning coffee and donuts. Along the way Keith discusses Biblical inerrancy, Hell, and how he became co-host of the popular podcast Heretic Happy Hour. Go Beyond the Pale with Keith Giles! Show Index: 2:50 (Intro) Tammy has a bit of a rant 13:00 How Keith and his wife met 15:35 Keith’s spiritual journey begins 24:11 The Rapture and fear of being “Left Behind” 31:27 Orthodoxy vs orthopraxy 35:45: When a pastor starts to question 43:27: Beyond the “Emergent Church” 49:00: Making sense of the Bible 59:40: Starting a House Church 1:03:00: Heretic Happy Hour

Author, blogger, and podcast host Keith Giles shares a journey that led him away from the traditional church pulpit to planting a house church that gave away ALL money collected to the poor. No salaries, no building, not even for the Sunday morning coffee and donuts. Along the way Keith discusses Biblical inerrancy, Hell, and how he became co-host of the popular podcast Heretic Happy Hour. Go Beyond the Pale with Keith Giles! Show Index: 2:50 (Intro) Tammy has a bit of a rant 13:00 How Keith and his wife met 15:35 Keith’s spiritual journey begins 24:11 The Rapture and fear of being “Left Behind” 31:27 Orthodoxy vs orthopraxy 35:45: When a pastor starts to question 43:27: Beyond the “Emergent Church” 49:00: Making sense of the Bible 59:40: Starting a House Church 1:03:00: Heretic Happy Hour

Episode 087: Jesus Unbound with Keith Giles

Peri Zahnd

Brian and Peri Zahnd return to share with us their pilgrimage on the Camino Portuguese; the 160 mile adventure running through Portugal and ending at the cathedral in Santiago de Compostela in Spain. Along the way they share stories we hope will inspire you to perhaps walk your own Camino one day. Go Beyond the Pale with Brian &amp; Peri Zahnd!

Brian and Peri Zahnd return to share with us their pilgrimage on the Camino Portuguese; the 160 mile adventure running through Portugal and ending at the cathedral in Santiago de Compostela in Spain. Along the way they share stories we hope will inspire you to perhaps walk your own Camino one day. Go Beyond the Pale with Brian &amp; Peri Zahnd!

Episode 089: Camino Tales on the Camino Portuguese with Brian & Peri Zahnd

Brett Moore

Australian Brett Moore is an International lawyer who shares his journey of being involved with the Christian Charismatic movement, leaving the legal world for a time to attend Fuller Seminary, and eventually finding his faith land in the Episcopal (Anglican) Church. Along the way Brett opens up about his own experiences of being a victim as a young boy in the sex abuse scandals rocking the Church recently. Go Beyond the Pale with Brett Moore Episode Index: 1:00 - (Intro) Steve and Tammy answer a listener’s questions 24:48 - Conversation with Brett begins 30:28 - More flexible theologically getting older 38:10 - Entering and (mostly) leaving Charismatic Christianity 54:40- Good and Bad ways of relating to God 1:14:05 - Church Life in '90s Hong Kong  1:31:20 - Trying to balance Bible scripture and experience 1:53:25 - Brett opens up about his own experiences being abused as a child in the church

Australian Brett Moore is an International lawyer who shares his journey of being involved with the Christian Charismatic movement, leaving the legal world for a time to attend Fuller Seminary, and eventually finding his faith land in the Episcopal (Anglican) Church. Along the way Brett opens up about his own experiences of being a victim as a young boy in the sex abuse scandals rocking the Church recently. Go Beyond the Pale with Brett Moore Episode Index: 1:00 - (Intro) Steve and Tammy answer a listener’s questions 24:48 - Conversation with Brett begins 30:28 - More flexible theologically getting older 38:10 - Entering and (mostly) leaving Charismatic Christianity 54:40- Good and Bad ways of relating to God 1:14:05 - Church Life in '90s Hong Kong  1:31:20 - Trying to balance Bible scripture and experience 1:53:25 - Brett opens up about his own experiences being abused as a child in the church

Episode 099: An Aussie Faith Journey from Charismatic to Episcopal with Brett Moore

David Hayward

Beyond the Pale celebrates it's 100th episode by sharing the journey of David Hayward aka "the Naked Pastor". David is a former pastor turned cartoonist whose satire and critique of Christian culture has helped many Christians around the world re-think what following Jesus might actually look like. Along the way David shares his own story that we know will inspire you on yours. Go Beyond the Pale with David Hayward! Episode Index: 1:04- Intro with Steve and Tammy on the 100th episode 16:40- Conversation with David begins 21:16- David's journey 35:30- Exploring beyond the church's "invisible line" 49:30- Developing spiritual health when "deconstructing" 54:16- The Church still has so much to give

Beyond the Pale celebrates it's 100th episode by sharing the journey of David Hayward aka "the Naked Pastor". David is a former pastor turned cartoonist whose satire and critique of Christian culture has helped many Christians around the world re-think what following Jesus might actually look like. Along the way David shares his own story that we know will inspire you on yours. Go Beyond the Pale with David Hayward! Episode Index: 1:04- Intro with Steve and Tammy on the 100th episode 16:40- Conversation with David begins 21:16- David's journey 35:30- Exploring beyond the church's "invisible line" 49:30- Developing spiritual health when "deconstructing" 54:16- The Church still has so much to give

Episode 100: The Journey of a "Naked Pastor" with David Hayward

Christine Cattanach

Steve travels to London England on today's episode to sit down with Mark and Christine Cattanach as they share how and why they took a break from church. Their story of hitting the pause button to find their bearings and reflect will be an inspiration on your own journey. Get ready to go beyond the Pale with Mark &amp; Christine Cattanach Show index: 1:20 - Intro with Steve &amp; Tammy 12:12 - How going to church became a challenge 26:36 - What God wants or what we want? 39:13- Finding church in different places 45:12- Held hostage to “Words from God”?

Steve travels to London England on today's episode to sit down with Mark and Christine Cattanach as they share how and why they took a break from church. Their story of hitting the pause button to find their bearings and reflect will be an inspiration on your own journey. Get ready to go beyond the Pale with Mark &amp; Christine Cattanach Show index: 1:20 - Intro with Steve &amp; Tammy 12:12 - How going to church became a challenge 26:36 - What God wants or what we want? 39:13- Finding church in different places 45:12- Held hostage to “Words from God”?

Episode 070: Out of Church...and Back Into Church with Mark & Christine Cattanach

Award winning author Paul Ellis talks to Steve &amp; Tammy about his new book A.D. 70. Unlike the anxiety produced by many books on prophecy and the fear of being "left behind", AD 70 offers a hopeful and "good news" alternative to the "last days." Drawing on an in-depth study of the scripture alongside forgotten lessons from history Paul reinterprets the dark tales of vengeance and judgement through the lens of grace.  Get ready to go Beyond the Pale with Paul Ellis  Show Notes:  4:42 - (intro) Talking pilgrimage walks with Paul 10:24- Paul explains why the year AD 70 was so important 17:41- Why a Grace author writes a book on the "End Times" 22:34- Talking the Rapture and the Return of Christ 32:08- The "wrath" of God probably ain't what you think.

Award winning author Paul Ellis talks to Steve &amp; Tammy about his new book A.D. 70. Unlike the anxiety produced by many books on prophecy and the fear of being "left behind", AD 70 offers a hopeful and "good news" alternative to the "last days." Drawing on an in-depth study of the scripture alongside forgotten lessons from history Paul reinterprets the dark tales of vengeance and judgement through the lens of grace. Get ready to go Beyond the Pale with Paul Ellis Show Notes: 4:42 - (intro) Talking pilgrimage walks with Paul 10:24- Paul explains why the year AD 70 was so important 17:41- Why a Grace author writes a book on the "End Times" 22:34- Talking the Rapture and the Return of Christ 32:08- The "wrath" of God probably ain't what you think.

Episode 064: A.D. 70 with Paul Ellis

In this special holiday bonus episode of Beyond the Pale Steve journeys to the land of Israel and interviews some of his International travel companions about highlight experiences from their time in the Holy Land. Go Beyond the Pale in Israel! Episode Index: 00:17- Steve (USA) 6:46- Danny (Israel) 15:01- Ryan (UK) 19:30- Christina (UK) 25:19- Georgina (New Zealand) 27: 58- Kaze (Hong Kong)

In this special holiday bonus episode of Beyond the Pale Steve journeys to the land of Israel and interviews some of his International travel companions about highlight experiences from their time in the Holy Land. Go Beyond the Pale in Israel! Episode Index: 00:17- Steve (USA) 6:46- Danny (Israel) 15:01- Ryan (UK) 19:30- Christina (UK) 25:19- Georgina (New Zealand) 27: 58- Kaze (Hong Kong)

Bonus Holiday Episode: Shabbat Shalom from Israel

Andrew Hackman

What happens when patriotism runs amok? When it goes from something good and positive into something twisted and a little weird. My brother Andrew Hackman explains "fetish" patriotism and why its not helping a world that could use a little help right now. Go Beyond the Pale with Andrew Hackman! Episode Index: 1:48: (Intro) Tammy’s Birthday at our favorite restaurant 18:28 - (Interview Begins) What is Fetish Patriotism? 24:00 - “Loving your country like an adult and not a 4 yr old” 31:02 - The problem with Christian Nationalism 44:12 - Combating Tribalism 48:48 - Not being “offended” is good for your health

What happens when patriotism runs amok? When it goes from something good and positive into something twisted and a little weird. My brother Andrew Hackman explains "fetish" patriotism and why its not helping a world that could use a little help right now. Go Beyond the Pale with Andrew Hackman! Episode Index: 1:48: (Intro) Tammy’s Birthday at our favorite restaurant 18:28 - (Interview Begins) What is Fetish Patriotism? 24:00 - “Loving your country like an adult and not a 4 yr old” 31:02 - The problem with Christian Nationalism 44:12 - Combating Tribalism 48:48 - Not being “offended” is good for your health

Episode 095: Fetish Patriotism with Andrew Hackman

Tony Bottagaro

Tony Bottagaro is an award winning playwright, author, filmmaker, and speaker who serves as Special Advisor on National and International Affairs to the Chamber of the Americas. Tony shares with Steve &amp; Tammy how the message of God's Love has shaped his journey and given him the opportunity to address the United Nations, officials at the Pentagon, and even have an audience with the Pope. Go Beyond the Pale with Tony Bottagaro! Show Index: 1:36 (Intro) Steve &amp; Tammy share a live report from the Philippines 12:23- Interview with Tony begins 15:13- Planting a Seed of Love 25:55- Meeting the Pope 29:59- Pushing people to “convert” just pushes people away 37:20- Tony and Steve share anecdotes about their friendship 46:47- The power of an act of kindness 52:12- Faith communities also need to hear the message of God’s love

Tony Bottagaro is an award winning playwright, author, filmmaker, and speaker who serves as Special Advisor on National and International Affairs to the Chamber of the Americas. Tony shares with Steve &amp; Tammy how the message of God's Love has shaped his journey and given him the opportunity to address the United Nations, officials at the Pentagon, and even have an audience with the Pope. Go Beyond the Pale with Tony Bottagaro! Show Index: 1:36 (Intro) Steve &amp; Tammy share a live report from the Philippines 12:23- Interview with Tony begins 15:13- Planting a Seed of Love 25:55- Meeting the Pope 29:59- Pushing people to “convert” just pushes people away 37:20- Tony and Steve share anecdotes about their friendship 46:47- The power of an act of kindness 52:12- Faith communities also need to hear the message of God’s love

Episode 093: Creating a World More Human and More Divine with Tony Bottagaro

My brother Andrew returns to the show to discuss a number of topics including social media, faith, and how "loving your enemy" works even if you don't believe in God.  Along the way we'll also talk about how to engage those weird, uncomfortable Bible bits. Get Ready to Go Beyond the Pale with Andrew Hackman! Episode index: 2:05 (Intro) Steve and Tammy discuss the impact of social media 20:20 Interview begins 25:17 “I’m an Atheist” 30:40 Engaging with people on Facebook 38:00: Ignoring those uncomfortable Bible bits 48:29: Thinking and Overthinking 1:10:48 A faith without agenda

My brother Andrew returns to the show to discuss a number of topics including social media, faith, and how "loving your enemy" works even if you don't believe in God.  Along the way we'll also talk about how to engage those weird, uncomfortable Bible bits. Get Ready to Go Beyond the Pale with Andrew Hackman! Episode index: 2:05 (Intro) Steve and Tammy discuss the impact of social media 20:20 Interview begins 25:17 “I’m an Atheist” 30:40 Engaging with people on Facebook 38:00: Ignoring those uncomfortable Bible bits 48:29: Thinking and Overthinking 1:10:48 A faith without agenda

Episode 094: Social Media, Christianity, and All the Jazz with Andrew Hackman

In this episode we catch up with Ojo Taylor, formerly of the Christian punk band Undercover. Join us as we discuss pretty much everything from sin and ethics, to whether America can still be the bulwark of stability it has been in the past. Along the way Ojo questions whether Christians should be promoting a God that requires a blood sacrifice in order to forgive....and other hot button topics. Go Beyond the Pale with Ojo Taylor! Episode Index: 1:13- “(Intro) Steve &amp; Tammy discuss how to love people radically even when its hard 21:47- Talk with Ojo Taylor begins 22:22- When your country goes off the rails 32:28- How Ojo’s friends have reacted to his “de-conversion” 37:06- Evolving beyond the “Volcano god” 40:01- Should we fear or embrace “secularisation?” 53: 30- Ethics &amp; Sin 1:07:19- Some hope for America 1:16:32- When Christian musicians lose their prophetic voice

In this episode we catch up with Ojo Taylor, formerly of the Christian punk band Undercover. Join us as we discuss pretty much everything from sin and ethics, to whether America can still be the bulwark of stability it has been in the past. Along the way Ojo questions whether Christians should be promoting a God that requires a blood sacrifice in order to forgive....and other hot button topics. Go Beyond the Pale with Ojo Taylor! Episode Index: 1:13- “(Intro) Steve &amp; Tammy discuss how to love people radically even when its hard 21:47- Talk with Ojo Taylor begins 22:22- When your country goes off the rails 32:28- How Ojo’s friends have reacted to his “de-conversion” 37:06- Evolving beyond the “Volcano god” 40:01- Should we fear or embrace “secularisation?” 53: 30- Ethics &amp; Sin 1:07:19- Some hope for America 1:16:32- When Christian musicians lose their prophetic voice

Episode 103: Ethics, Morality, and America with Ojo Taylor

Efren Gonzalez

Efren Gonzalez is a travel vlogger and filmmaker whose Youtube videos chronicling his journeys have been an inspiration and valuable resource for those planning their own pilgrimage. On today's episode Efren shares some "tales from the trail" including his most recent adventure across Europe on the Via Francigena. Go Beyond the Pale with Efren Gonzalez!

Efren Gonzalez is a travel vlogger and filmmaker whose Youtube videos chronicling his journeys have been an inspiration and valuable resource for those planning their own pilgrimage. On today's episode Efren shares some "tales from the trail" including his most recent adventure across Europe on the Via Francigena. Go Beyond the Pale with Efren Gonzalez!

Episode 088: Camino Tales with Efren Gonzalez (Via Francigena)

Brian Zahnd returns to Beyond the Pale to discuss his new book "Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God". As one of the leading voices in the church today Brian takes aim at Christian's endorsement of fear, violence, and nationalism reminding us that our God looks like Jesus and ONLY Jesus. Get ready to go Beyond the Pale with Brian Zahnd. Show Index 2:06 (Intro) Steve &amp; Tammy discuss the effect “fear” theology has had on their faith 14:48 Brian shares an update from their Camino pilgrimage in Spain a year out 28:54 How the Jesus Movement generation became the political “Christian Right” 34:00 Brian shares how he “woke up” into a new understanding in Christ 39:20 How the “fear” theology of Jack Chick cartoon tracts still impact the evangelical church today 41:45 When Christians see Jesus not as a teacher but simply a cog in God’s atonement process

Brian Zahnd returns to Beyond the Pale to discuss his new book "Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God". As one of the leading voices in the church today Brian takes aim at Christian's endorsement of fear, violence, and nationalism reminding us that our God looks like Jesus and ONLY Jesus. Get ready to go Beyond the Pale with Brian Zahnd. Show Index 2:06 (Intro) Steve &amp; Tammy discuss the effect “fear” theology has had on their faith 14:48 Brian shares an update from their Camino pilgrimage in Spain a year out 28:54 How the Jesus Movement generation became the political “Christian Right” 34:00 Brian shares how he “woke up” into a new understanding in Christ 39:20 How the “fear” theology of Jack Chick cartoon tracts still impact the evangelical church today 41:45 When Christians see Jesus not as a teacher but simply a cog in God’s atonement process

Episode 059: Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God with Brian Zahnd (pt.1)

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