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Where Do We Go From Here

Do you wonder what comes after purity culture? Do conservatives think you're too progressive while progressives think you're too conservative? Are you frustrated by the simplistic way the church spoke about sexuality and humanity? In this podcast, we untangle sexual ethics for a new generation of Christians through conversations that give you the tools you need to develop your own ideas to help you, your community, and your church live a wholehearted life exactly where you are today. We cover topics about sexuality, singleness, marriage, dating, divorce, parenting, and more. You will find sound theological framing and psychological insights shape our conversations with thought leaders in their fields. And you will leave equipped and empowered to live your life. For more information about our show and our guests, check out www.wheredowegopod.com.

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This means episodes are recommended to be heard in order from the very start. Here's the 10 best episodes of the series anyway though!

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Trailer - Where Do We Go From Here?

The era of purity rings and True Love Waits pledges may be over, you could stand around the fire of a burning down house and warm your hands, or you can rebuild. That’s where we come in. Where Do We Go From Here? is a podcast untangling sexual ethics for a new generation of Christians. We aren’t building a house. You are. But we want to equip you with psychological insights and sound theological framing that you can use as tools to build your own place. Join the conversation at Instagram @wheredowegopod

3mins

21 Nov 2019

Rank #1

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1: Why Should We Have a Post-Purity Culture Podcast?

Where Do We Go From Here? is untangling sexual ethics for a new generation of Christians. We are here to start a conversation with you about life after purity culture. You can use our conversations as a starting point with your people - friends, partners, family, neighbors, youth group and mom's groups - so that you can decide: where will you go from here? Full episode show notes here Partner with us for $3/month to hear uncut interviews and exclusive episodes of The Jess & Devi Show 

32mins

28 Nov 2019

Rank #2

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2: Is Purity the Word the Bible Uses to Talk About Sex?

Is "purity" the word the Bible uses to describe our sexual decisions? How easy is it to make the Bible say what we want it to say? What are tools that we need as we study the Bible for ourselves? Listen as we dissect the word "purity" as it is found in the Bible and examine the implications of believing that we are pure or impure. Full show notes here Talk to us on Twitter & Instagram Join the Ladies Night Book Club for $9/month - check here if we're starting a new book club soon

46mins

5 Dec 2019

Rank #3

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3: What Chewed Up Gum Has To Do With Sex

Chewed up gum. Crumpled roses. Tape that lost its stickiness. We talk about these metaphors from purity culture with Dr. Sean McDowell, and we unpack - were these the best ways to talk about premarital sex? How were they harmful? What are better ways of discussing our sexual choices? And how can we be talking about it with young people today? Join us for a look back at 80s purity culture and for thoughts on how to move forward. Full Show Notes here Follow us on Instagram and Twitter Partner with us for $3/month and get uncut interviews with our guests AND episodes of The Jess & Devi Show

48mins

12 Dec 2019

Rank #4

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4: Disney Princess Films and Purity Culture with Dr. Kutter Callaway

As we uncover more of purity culture's influences, we discuss what cultures have shaped our view on sexuality, marriage and singleness. Biblical culture? Christian culture? Broader culture? Popular culture?  For this discussion we're joined by Fuller Seminary professor and author, Kutter Callaway. He lectures in faith and culture but his expertise in purity culture was galvanised in his must-read book, Breaking the Marriage Idol. Full Show Notes Here Talk to us Instagram and Twitter Partner with us for $3/month and get uncut interviews with our guests AND episodes of The Jess & Devi Show

52mins

20 Dec 2019

Rank #5

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5: Does God Owe You Hot Sex?

You know that sermon, the one where we were all promised that if we saved sex for marriage not only would we get a (great! godly!) spouse, but also a hot sex life. But what are the consequences of the belief that says, "If I do this then God will give me _____?" Jess and Devi talk about the impact of believing the Sexual Prosperity Gospel, as writer Katelyn Beaty calls it. What does entitlement do to a relationship? Do we only get what we deserve? Is there a way to hold our lives and our choices with the open hand of gratitude? Full show notes here Partner with us for $3/month and get uncut interviews with our guests AND episodes of The Jess & Devi Show Talk to us on Instagram and Twitter

33mins

8 Jan 2020

Rank #6

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6: Sexual Prosperity & Singleness

This conversation is for you if you've wondered what to do when singleness goes on longer than you were promised. Pastor and teacher Sarah Deutscher joins us for this week's conversation about the sexual prosperity gospel and singleness. We talk about what the kingdom of God is really like and what beliefs we have to set aside in order to know God. Sarah says to us, "The kingdom of God is an extravagant reality that is at the heart of the gospel and why Jesus came, and we can engage in that reality right now." Jess and Devi also talk about what it's like to be a single person in the church, and we explore what we can do to reach out to each other. Our thanks to Sarah Deutscher for joining us for this episode of the podcast. Sarah is a pastor and teacher at Red Church in Melbourne, Australia. Full show notes for the episode here. Partner with us for $3/month to hear uncut interviews AND get episodes of The Jess & Devi Show Follow @wheredowegopod on IG Follow @wheredowegopod on Twitter

58mins

15 Jan 2020

Rank #7

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7: Q&A on Singleness, Marriage, and Parenting

Jess, Devi, and Lindsey take your questions and stories in this week's episode and discuss them. What do you do if your married friends don't value your time as a single person? What happens when there's guilt from previous relationships? How do we parent without fear? Listen in to a candid conversation about all the things.  You can find this episode's show notes here. Join the conversation at Instagram and Twitter Partner with us for $3/month to hear uncut interviews AND get episodes of The Jess & Devi Show

45mins

24 Jan 2020

Rank #8

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8: Gender Roles & Sexual Equality

Trigger Warning: This episode contains references to sexual abuse, sexual assault, and rape. "My parents weren't the ones who perpetuated purity culture to me. It was the books, the books, the books. The reason why it was so damaging to my friends and I is we were reading them in private. I was internalizing these messages without any discernment." That's one way Rachel Welcher took in the messages of purity culture, and now she's writing a book about it. In this conversation with Rachel, we talk about the similarities she found between purity culture and rape culture, the ways in which purity culture dehumanized both men and women, and the impact of studying the Bible thoroughly and in a community. This is part 1 of our conversation with Rachel. Episode show notes here Join us as we talk daily about sexual ethics on Instagram and Twitter Partner with us for $3/month to hear uncut interviews AND get episodes of The Jess & Devi Show Rachel Joy Welcher is an editor for Fathom magazine, and a graduate of the University of St. Andrews in Scotland, where she received her Master of Letters in Bible and the Contemporary World. She is the author of two collections of poetry, Two Funerals, Then Easter and Blue Tarp, and has written for The Gospel Coalition, Mere Orthodoxy, Relevant, and The Englewood Review of Books. Rachel has spent the last few years researching the impact of modern evangelical purity culture on the Church, and her book Talking Back to Purity Culture: Rediscovering Faithful Christian Sexuality is forthcoming from InterVarsity Press in 2020. She currently lives in Glenwood, Iowa, with her husband, Pastor Evan Welcher, and their dog, Frank.  You can connect with Rachel on Twitter and Instagram.

53mins

29 Jan 2020

Rank #9

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9: How to Talk About Divorce & Grief

This episode is for you if you want to learn how to listen and talk to people who suffer. It can be easy to believe that the Christian life will inoculate us against heartbreak; that's certainly what purity culture books implied. Rachel Welcher discusses with us the way her divorce impacted her life, and she says, "Still to this day, people ask me, 'How can I avoid your fate?'  and I say, 'You can’t. Suffering is part of the Christian life.'" (We start talking to Rachel at the 10 minute mark.) Jess and Devi also discuss whether or not we should be preparing unmarried people for divorce the way we prepare them for relationships, and we talk about the way grief is part of the Christian life. Full episode show notes here. Join us as we talk daily about sexual ethics on Instagram and Twitter Partner with us for $3/month to hear uncut interviews AND get episodes of The Jess & Devi Show Follow Rachel Welcher on Twitter and Instagram.

50mins

5 Feb 2020

Rank #10