G&R Episode 4: Stupor Tuesday! Bob and Scott dish the dirt on the liberal establishment!
It's Stupor Tuesday, and Scott and Bob are gonna dish dirt on Liberals. Do you hate Liberals? Why not? Do you know what a liberal is? If not, we'll tell you. We talk about the history of American liberalism starting with Woodrow Wilson, through FDR, the creation of the National Security State and NSC-68, and liberal rhetoric about being the party of working people while really being bag boys for Wall Street and imperialists for mega-corporations. We have a goal--we want to piss off at least 2/3 of the Liberals we know, so help us by sharing this on FB, Twitter, Instagram, and of course donating at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast Stevie Wonder riffs on Liberals: We are amazed but not amused By all the things you say that you'll do Though much concerned but not involved With decisions that are made by you But we are sick and tired of hearing your song Tellin' how you are gonna change right from wrong 'Cause if you really want to hear our views You haven't done nothin'
3 Mar 2020
G&R Episode 7: Pandemic and Politics with Sarah Koster
This past week has been unprecedented. Coronavirus has become a global pandemic and the world is reeling. At least 140,000 infected with 5,000 deaths in 133 countries. Global markets have been shaken with the New York Stock Exchange plummeting twice this past week. Multiple U.S. states have declared states of emergency, and finally, yesterday, Donald Trump declared a national state of emergency with a $50 billion aid package. In this episode of Green and Red, we’re going to talk about Coronavirus and how government incompetence, politics as usual, lack of basic healthcare services and, of course, capitalism are all at play. We're also going to get deep into the community health impacts of COVID19. We're joined by Sarah Koster, a Nurse Practitioner based in Oakland, CA. Sarah has worked in research and program evaluation in the area of Infectious diseases in a variety of locales including southern Africa. She currently teaches Community Health at Samuel Merritt University in Oakland, CA. And we support community and mutual aid groups working to help those hit hardest by the exploding virus. If you have any feedback or an idea for a show, please email us at firstname.lastname@example.org. And please follow us on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook. And if you want to become a patron of Green and Red, please check us out at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast Be careful out there.
14 Mar 2020
G&R Episode 3: The Story of SHAC with Jake Conroy
In this episode, we're joined by long-time animal rights activist, designer, writer and all around trouble-maker Jake Conroy. Jake was part of the Stop Huntington Animal Cruelty campaign, or SHAC, that campaigned against notorious animal testing company Huntington Life Sciences. SHAC bankrupted Huntington multiple times and were successful in getting them de-listed from the New York Stock Exchange. The campaign was so effective, the federal government prosecuted Jake and his co-defendants, known as the SHAC 7, as domestic terrorists. After a highly publicized case, the SHAC 7 were found guilty on all charges, including the controversial Animal Enterprise Protection Act (now called the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act) and sentenced to a variety of prison terms and a $1,000,001 restitution fine. Jake was sentenced to 48 months, which he served in 2 prisons in southern California. He was released in 2009.These days, you can see him sharing his view on many things, mostly related to the animal rights movement on his YouTube channel The Cranky Vegan.He has been most recently featured in the new documentary, The Animal People, about the SHAC’s case. Executive produced by Joaquin Phoenix. Directed by Cassandra Suchan (Rock The Bells) and Dennis Henry Hennelly (Bold Native).
27 Feb 2020
G&R Episode 5: Climate Rebellion with Bea Ruiz
This episode, we get into the climate rebellion spreading across the globe with Bea Ruiz from Extinction Rebellion US (XR US). We kick the episode off with a tribute to priest, poet and Sandinista Ernesto Cardenal who died on March 1st. Then we go in depth with Bea on climate politics, Extinction Rebellion, the Big Green non-profit industrial complex, and solidarity with brown, black and poor white communities on the frontlines of fossil fuel extraction, as well as the legacy of Judi Bari. Bea is a longtime organizer in radical movements. Bea worked with Diablo Rising Tide, the Bay Area chapter of Rising Tide North America. She’s a member of XR US’s national team, a support team for XR US local groups. Read more on: Ernesto Cardenal: With Walker in Nicaragua by Ernesto Cardenal Ernesto Cardenal, poet and Catholic priest, still causes controversy at age 86 Judi Bari: The Judi Bari website A glimpse inside the FBI Investigation into Judi Bari and Earth First! Extinction Rebellion: The Baffler: Striking at the End of the World Think Progress: Extinction Rebellion’s radical philosophy Cherri Foytlin: Is XR America Going to ‘Make XR Great Again,’ or is it an XR EXIT? Scott on the climate rebellion: Why “Good Liberals” Won’t Save the Climate (2018) When We Fight, We Fuck Shit Up: Keystone XL and Delegitimizing Fossil Fuels (2015) Making Green A Threat Again (2013) Scott also has a chapter on the recent history of direct action versus fossil fuels in the forthcoming "Climate Justice and Community Renewal" (Edited by Brian Tokar and Tamra Gilbertson) coming out in April. As always follow us on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter. And please consider becoming a patron of Green and Red on Patreon. You can also email us at email@example.com with any comments or feedback.
7 Mar 2020
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G&R Episode 6: Populism and the New Deal, Do Those Words Mean What You Think They Mean?
The world is in full blown panic around the COVID19 pandemic. The global economy is shaking. Today, the stock market took its biggest dip since September 1987. Panic about the virus and jobs and business is kicking in. During previous economic crashes, most notably the Panic of 1893 and the 1929 crash that launched the Great Depression, we saw moments emerge that initially challenged the ruling class. Both the populist movement of the 1890s, and social justice and labor movements of the 1930s led to a "thunder on the left" that terrified the ruling class. From William Jennings Bryan to Sinclair Lewis and Huey Long to Bernie Sanders, populist figures on the left are much more of a threat to Wall Street and the uber-rich than billionaire reality TV stars. As a result, the rich always know how to turn bottom-up led movements into top-down reform that actually benefits the wealthy with social stability and new consumer markets So, in this episode, Bob and Scott talk about the real meaning of Populism and the New Deal. Plus a shout out to our three new patrons supporting Green and Red on Patreon.com. And we close it out with a little Jefferson Airplane singing about how we're all in it together: "We are forces of chaos and anarchy, everything they say we are, we are, and we are very proud of ourselves. Up against the wall Motherfuckers." Thanks and stay safe out there! Also check us out on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook!
13 Mar 2020
G&R Episode 8: Live From Italy! More Pandemic and Politics!
Live from Italy: Politics and Pandemic. Today we talk to Professor Francesco Mazzucotelli from Bergamo, Italy, the center of the Italian COVID-19 outbreak, about the situation there and about the Italian health care system, Italian politics, and the global environment that has led to this crisis. Please share. Please follow us on Twitter and Instagram, and we encourage you to donate at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcastFrancesco Mazzucotelli is a Professor of Turkish and Middle Eastern History at the Universita di Pavia. He took his Ph.D from the Universita Cattolica del Sacre Muore di Milano and the American University of Beirut. He has been a journalist stationed in the Middle East and was a senate candidate in 2018 for the Liberi e Uguali party in Italy. He currently lives in Bergamo, Italy.
18 Mar 2020
G&R Episode 20: "War is A Racket:” Measuring the true cost of war w/ Graham Clumpner
In this episode, Bob and Scott talk with anarchist, U.S. military veteran, environmentalist and direct action organizer Graham Clumpner (@turncoatveteran). We discuss movement politics and the military during the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the rise of the far right since those wars and current politics and the military in the ages of Trump and COVID19. We also talk about the need for a movement against militarism and war, the need for international solidarity in the left, and intersection of militarism and the climate crisis. Read more: Inside the U.S. military's battle with white supremacy and far-right extremism: https://nbcnews.to/2TN6jcW Bob’s latest article on the anniversary of Dien Bien Phu: https://bit.ly/3ek8RXW Keep Green and Red independent! Donate at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast Also, help us make our social media empire a reality: Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenRedPodcast Follow us at Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodcastGreenRed Check out our dank memes on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greenredpodcast/ This is a Green and Red Podcast production. "Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac. Produced by Scott (@sparki1969) and Bob (@bobbuzzanco).
29 May 2020
G&R Episode 19: May 19th! The Legacies of Ho Chi Minh and Malcolm X (both born today)
Welcome to the Green and Red M19 Podcast! In this very special episode, we celebrate the shared birthday of iconic revolutionaries Ho Chi Minh and Malcolm X, both born on May 19th (1890 and 1925, respectively). Join Scott and Bob as we go deep on two of the most important revolutionaries of the 20th century---their ideas, their organizations, their international leadership in the class and anti-imperial struggles, and the inspiration they gave to so many millions. Plus a little Last Poets love for Ho Chi Minh: I'm gettin' on out of here You see, I just could not win Against Ho Chi Minh No, I just could not win Against Ho Chi Minh Further reading: William Duiker's books Ho Chi Minh: A Life and Sacred War, The Autobiography of Malcolm X, Peniel Joseph's The Sword and the Shield, and James Cones' Martin and Malcolm and America. Keep Green and Red independent media! Donate at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast Follow us on these social media channels: Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenRedPodcast Follow us at Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodcastGreenRed Check out our dank memes at Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greenredpodcast/ This is a Green and Red Podcast production. "Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac. Produced by Scott (@sparki1969) and Bob (@bobbuzzanco).
19 May 2020
G&R Episode 18: Michael Moore's 'Planet of the Humans' and Its Discontents ft. Ananda Lee Tan
Welcome to Green and Red Podcast! In this episode, we dive into the controversy of the new Michael Moore produced film 'Planet of the Humans.' We're joined by long time climate justice organizer Ananda Lee Tan (@anandalee). But we also, importantly, go into the history and politics of the North American climate and climate justice movements. Ananda has been on the frontlines of environmental, labor, anti-capitalist and climate justice organizing for almost forty years. He's worked for big green groups on their global campaigns, scrappy direct action groups and co-convened the Climate Justice Alliance, a network of frontline, black, brown, Indigenous and low income environmental and climate justice groups across the U.S. Originally from the community of Santiniketan, Ananda presently lives on the territories of the Coast Salish First Nations in the Pacific Northwest. Read more: Ananda Lee Tan: The Messy World of Movements Bill McKibben: ‘A Bomb in the Center of the Climate Movement’: Michael Moore Damages Our Most Important Goal Michael Moore's Planet of the Humans Climate Justice Alliance Labor Network for Sustainability Rising Tide North America: Hookwinked in the Hothouse, False Solutions to Climate Change As always, you can follow us at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenRedPodcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodcastGreenRed Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greenredpodcast/ Also, please support Green and Red at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast This is a Green and Red Podcast production. "Green and Red Blues" by Moody. Editing by Isaac. Produced by Scott (@sparki1969) and Bob (@bobbuzzanco).
11 May 2020
G&R Episode 17: Tin Soldiers and Nixon's Coming . . . 50 Years After the Kent State Killings
In this special Green and Red Podcast, we commemorate the 50th anniversary of the tragic events of May 4th, 1970 at Kent State University, where agents of the state murdered 4 students and shot 9 others. Students, who'd been told the war was winding down in Vietnam, erupted in protest at campuses all over America when Richard Nixon announced the U.S. invasion of Cambodia on April 30th. At Kent State, a working-class public school in Northeast Ohio, protesting students and other burned down an ROTC building, a common target in the Vietnam protest era, and Ohio Governor James Rhodes, vowing a violent response, mobilized the National Guard and sent them to Kent. For two days the students and Guard skirmished, with the paramilitaries hurling tear gas and intimidating students. On May 4th, the Guard, unprovoked, started shooting into the crowd of students and shot 13, killing 4, from distances beyond 300 feet. These were extrajudicial killings and a sure sign the state would murder anyone who challenged its interests. The war had come home! Scott and Bob, who's also a historian of the Vietnam War and the 1960s and has published extensively on those subjects, talk about the background to the protests, the official, violent response, the aftermath at places like Jackson State, where 2 more students were killed, and the larger context of anti-state protests and their meaning, and lessons. See also, the Kent State Tribunal Organization, established by Laurel Krause, sister of one of the students assassinated at Kent State that day; an interview with Alan Canfora, one of the survivors of the shootings, and also another interview here; The Kent State May 4th Poetry Collection; Denise Levertov, "The Day the Audience Walked Out on Me, and Why" ; a couple of well-known songs that came out of the tragedy, Neil Young, "Ohio" and Chrissie Hynde (who was a student at Kent State in 1970 and friends with two of the murdered students), "Revolution"; Governor Rhodes press conference, May 3; and Robert Buzzanco, Vietnam and the Transformation of American Life. As always, you can follow us at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenRedPodcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodcastGreenRed Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greenredpodcast/ Also, please become a Green and Red patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
4 May 2020
G&R Episode 16: Shut It Down! Resistance in the Age of COVID-19 with Lisa Fithian!
In our latest episode with talk with long time direct action organizer Lisa Fithian. We talked about many of the issues confronting us right now, and how people are fighting back. Lisa's been on the front lines for almost four decades, from fighting against the Reagan attacks on Central America, to helping organize workers, to fighting transnational institutions like the WTO and the World Bank, wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, doing Mutual Aid in New Orleans after Katrina, supporting Gaza and so many other things. We talked to her about the role of mutual aid in resistance, and also the current wave of work stoppages and wildcats, and the potential for mass action at this critical time in our lives. Importantly, we discussed how these actions are being done for the commons, not just for individuals. Lisa's also just published a memoir, "Shut it Down: Stories from a Fierce, Loving Resistance" and we discussed that too. More reading: Shut It Down: Stories from a fierce, loving resistance (https://shutitdownnow.org/) Organizing for Power (Lisa's website) (https://organizingforpower.org) May 1 Call for a General Strike (https://bit.ly/2ySEpVm) We Are the Shutdown: May 1st 2020 (https://bit.ly/2VO87E5) As always, you can follow us at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenRedPodcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodcastGreenRed Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greenredpodcast/ Also, please become a Green and Red patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
29 Apr 2020
Up Next! Lisa Fithian joins Green and Red to discuss resistance in the age of COVID19.
Scott and I have a great episode coming up and we want to give you a head's up about it. We interviewed the inspiring activist and organizer Lisa Fithian and talked about many of the issues confronting us right now, today. Lisa's been on the front lines for a couple generations, from fighting against the Reagan attacks on Central America, to helping organize workers, working with the homeless, doing Mutual Aid in New Orleans after Katrina, supporting Gaza and so many other things.We talked to her about the role of mutual aid in resistance, and also the current wave of work stoppages and wildcats, and the potential for mass action at this critical time in our lives. Importantly, we discussed how these actions are being done for the commons, not just for individuals. Lisa's also just published a memoir, "Shut it Down: Stories from a Fierce, Loving Resistance" and we discussed that too.
25 Apr 2020
G&R Episode 15: Mutual Aid in a Pandemic. NOLA Edition! With Jasmine Araujo from Southern Solidarity!
In this episode, Jasmine Araujo of Southern Solidarity joins us to discuss Mutual Aid in a Pandemic, in New Orleans. She and her crew have set up shop and they feed 200 people a day, give them blankets, arrange for medical care, and help when they get harassed by cops or passers-by. She discusses the origins of Southern Solidarity, their daily routine, and the way COVID-19 has affected the homeless in New Orleans. After that, Scott and Bob talk a little about the importance of Mutual Aid and workers actions. While the media is reporting the spectacle of little Nazis and Confederates "protesting" at State Capitols, a far greater number of people are staging workplace actions for better working conditions and safety. There's a lot going on here at the Green and Red Podcast! For more information, and ways to help out, check out: Fight Back News: New Orleans community unites in solidarity with large homeless population during pandemic lockdown For more info, go to https://southernsolidarity.org, Donate to Southern Solidarity at https://southernsolidarity.org/donate/ Bob Buzzanco latest: "Death Cults, Wildcats, and Liberal Civility" As always, you can follow us at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenRedPodcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodcastGreenRed Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greenredpodcast/ Also, please become a Green and Red patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
24 Apr 2020
G&R Episode 14: Welcome Back Koster! Politics and the Pandemic w/ Prof. Sarah Koster!
In this timely episode, Bob and Scott welcome back Professor Sarah Koster back to Green and Red. We discuss the latest developments in the world of public health and COVID19, the disproportionate impacts coronavirus is having on black, brown and low income communities, why California seems to have peaked in the crisis and the amazing work being done by first responders and healthcare workers. Sarah Koster is a Nurse Practitioner based in Oakland, CA. She has worked in research and program evaluation in the area of Infectious diseases in a variety of locales including southern Africa. She currently teaches Community Health at Samuel Merritt University in Oakland, CA. Further reading: NY Times: 8 Key Exchanges on the Faltering Response to the Coronavirus The Intercept: Two Weeks as a New York City Nurse in the Pandemic Bob's latest: "Blaming China, Not Capitalism." As always, you can follow us at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenRedPodcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodcastGreenRed Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greenredpodcast/ Also, please become a Green and Red patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
13 Apr 2020
G&R Episode 13: Martin Luther King vs. LBJ! King's Radicalism and the Limits of the Liberal State
In this episode, Bob and Scott get into the politics of Martin Luther King and how he's WAY more radical than most people realize. This week is the 52nd anniversary of the assassination of Martin Luther King (MLK). Today, everyone from the Libertarian Party to the anti-abortion movement to tech companies in Silicon Valley trying to sell you their latest gadgets claim his legacy. In truth, MLK fought and opposed "the giant triplets of racism, extreme materialism (i.e. capitalism), and militarism" until the end of his life. While many look at the surface levels of MLK's politics and legacy, Green and Red goes deep into the real substance of who he was. Further reading and listening: Bob Buzzanco: MLK for Sale? How to Package a Radical MLK: Beyond Vietnam-A Time to Break the Silence (Video) MLK: I've Been to the Mountaintop Speech (Video) As always, you can follow us at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenRedPodcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodcastGreenRed Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greenredpodcast/ Also, please become a Green and Red patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
6 Apr 2020
G&R Episode 12: Coronavirus in Italy and the Middle East, with Giuseppe Acconcia
In this episode, Bob and Scott talk with Giuseppe Acconcia, a professor of Middle Eastern Studies at the Universita di Padova. We discuss the ongoing impact of COVID in Italy, Chinese and Cuban assistance while Europe sat on its hands, and especially the way that this pandemic will have an impact in the Middle East and North Africa, areas with less development and greater poverty, which are sure to be hit harder, and in war-torn areas like Syria, Yemen, and Libya, which will see catastrophic consequences. Professor Acconcia is a frequent media presence in Italy talking about these issues and is the author of many books, including The Great Iran, translated into English by the University of Padua Press in 2018. As always, you can follow us at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenRedPodcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodcastGreenRed Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greenredpodcast/ Also, please feel free to become a Green and Red patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
2 Apr 2020
Next G & R Podcast, COVID in Italy and the Middle East, with Prof. Giuseppe Acconcia
We have another great podcast coming up, with Professor Giuseppe Acconcia from the University of Padua, talking about COVID-19 in Italy, and also the Middle East and Africa, where it's sure to have far more dire consequences for people living in poverty and without self-determination.
1 Apr 2020
G&R Episode 11: Rise and Fall of Liberalism and Poor Peoples Movements
Scott and Bob get down and dirty about the rise and fall of liberalism. We kick off with the most recent political and economic turns in the COVID19 crisis (and how ALL the politicians are to blame.) Then we discuss peak liberalism with LBJ and the Great Society. And in response to the reformist moment in the 1960's, the poor people's movements that emerged on the left including Students for Democratic Society, the Big Lebowski and the Port Huron Statement (not the compromised 2nd draft), Martin Luther King Jr. and the Poor Peoples' Campaign.i In solidarity with our friends doing COVID19 mutual aid, please check out these resources: Mutual Aid Disaster Relief Surviving the Virus: An Anarchist Guide It's Going Down: COVID-19 Mutual Aid Follow us here: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenRedPodcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodcastGreenRed Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greenredpodcast/ Also, become a Green and Red patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
30 Mar 2020
G&R Episode 10: Mutual Aid and COVID19 with scott crow
In this episode, we talk with long time friend and comrade scott crow about mutual aid in the era of COVID19. We discuss hope, community, disaster response by just regular people (not bureaucrats, professional non-profits or "Captain Asspants" in the White House) and scott's new music label aptly titled "eMERGENCY hEARTS." We also play some music from the label. scott crow is an anarchist, speaker, author, organizer, musician and story teller. He's author of Black Flags and Windmills:Hope, Anarchy and the Common Ground Collective (PM Press) and a number of other books. scott has co-founded a number of diverse projects, businesses and organizations rooted in cooperative power sharing models including the Common Ground Collective, the largest anarchist inspired organization in modern US history, that formed after Hurricane Katrina, Treasure City Thrift, an anarchist worker coop, Red Square, an art coop, Century Modern, an antique coop and UPROAR, a community based organization, Dirty South Earth First!, Radical Encuentro Camp, . More from our episode: Read more about scott at www.scottcrow.org/ You can check out the eMERGENCY hEARTS music label here. All proceeds for "Anthropocene Blues Revisited" on the music label are being donated to our comrades at Mutual Aid Disaster Relief (an amazing network made up of many anarchists, rabble-rousers, permaculturalists, community organizers, and others who are actively organizing around supporting disaster survivors in a spirit of mutual aid and solidarity. You can get a free e-copy of Black Flags and Windmills by signing up on PM Press's email list. Additional Reading and Resources: Mutual Aid Disaster Relief: When Every Community is Ground Zero: Pulling Each Other Through a Pandemic Surviving the Virus: An Anarchist Guide It's Going Down: COVID-19 Mutual Aid As always, you can follow us at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenRedPodcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodcastGreenRed Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/greenredpodcast/ Also, please feel free to become a Green and Red patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
26 Mar 2020
G&R Episode 9: UC Strike!
In this episode, Bob and Scott talk with three graduate student strike organizers at the University of California (UC) who've been out on wildcat strike since mid-February. We talk about the COLA campaign, the UC's retaliation against striking grad students at UC Santa Cruz and how to conduct a strike in during a global pandemic. We're joined by: Carolina Talavera is a PhD Candidate in medical anthropology at the University of California, Berkeley. She has just returned from conducting her dissertation research on housing insecurity in London, UK. Caylee Hong is a Canadian PhD student in socio-cultural anthropology at the University of California, Berkeley. Prior to Berkeley, she worked as an attorney in New York City. Carlos Cruz is a 2nd year PhD grad student and fired wildcat at UC Santa Cruz More reading: LA Times: UC Santa Cruz fires 54 graduate student workers striking for higher pay It's Going Down: Barricades Go Up in Santa Cruz as UC Wide Wildcat Strike Expands Following Firings Indybay: An Interview on the Growing Wildcat Strike at UC Santa Cruz Berkeleyside: UC Berkeley students hold ‘wildcat’ strike for more pay, rehiring of fired workers And as always, check us Green and Red on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Email us with feedback and show ideas at firstname.lastname@example.org. And please consider becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/greenredpodcast
23 Mar 2020