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Loud Murmurs 小声喧哗

Loud Murmurs is a Mandarin-Chinese podcast about American pop culture, brought to you by four bilingual and bi-cultural women in the U.S. and their friends. We discuss movies, TV, documentaries, and the social, political issues reflected on by a piece of pop culture work. Too often, race, gender and other political and cultural issues are the subtext in pop culture. We seek to make the subtext explicit, question it and challenge it. The show is now in its third season, updated biweekly. We have interviewed guests ranging from science fiction writers, comedians, to scholars and journalists. Our goal is to make the most thought-provoking Chinese podcast about American pop culture. 小声喧哗是一档以女性视角来观察和批判影视文本如何塑造世界的播客。《小声喧哗》Loud Murmurs, 是一档以女性视角来观察和批判影视文本如何塑造世界的播客。文化和审美的自觉认同从来都是隐含在创造者对世界的想象中,而这样的想象催生出许多充满偏见的创造动机。这样的创造动机渗透在我们日复一日热爱的欧美电影中,美剧里,渗透在我们对于事物的认知中。今天,我们想要去挑战它。紧跟影视热点和时事的同时,保持了双周频率的持续输出。在制作节目时,小声喧哗经常邀请学者和影评人参与我们的节目,使节目的观点更加多元化和专业。小声喧哗致力在中文世界,做最好的流行文化播客。

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S2 E1: Vice, a reconstruction of history that trolls you

As the award season is coming, Loud Murmurs will start to discuss a series of Oscar-nominated movie. Equipped with background knowledge about Bush's administration, we, in this episode, discussed the legacy of Dick Cheney and George W Bush. Other than telling the audience what they have done, we recalled our memories about Iraq War as a young person growing up in China in the early 2000s. 马上要到来的这个周日,第91届奥斯卡金像奖颁奖典礼会如期举办。虽然已经身处在9102年的我们听到”奥斯卡”这三个字可能会忍不出翻白眼,但是它之于流行文化和电影行业的地位依然高高在上,它不断地引导、调整、施压于新的文化trend和每个人都梦想分羹的“主流性"。这次奥斯卡最佳影片的提名除了有《一个明星的诞生》,《波西米亚狂想曲》,《绿皮书》这样呼声很高且像是“奥斯卡订做电影”般的候选者,还有一部与众不同的电影被提名了,这部电影叫做《为副不仁》(英语:Vice)。 这部传记喜剧片,由亚当·麦凯执导和编剧,他也是《大空头》的导演。由克里斯蒂安·贝尔饰演美国副总统也就是主人公迪克·切尼——恩没错,贝尔又在此片中大变活人了。制片是包括布拉德·皮特的制作公司B计划。如果你了解这帮人就知道,这是一帮能把人黑到旋转跳跃380度的讽刺&喜剧天才。 正好@小声喧哗Loud_Murmurs 的主播们或多或少都有N年学习美国政治的背景,所以要当仁不让聊这部电影。 首先,那啥,迪克·切尼是谁??? ––––迪克·切尼是外号为“Darth Vader”, 被骂做是《星战》里邪恶的黑武士。他是小布什任内的美国副总统,也被广泛认为是美国历史上最有实权的副总统之一。在小布什和他的任期结束后,无论来自左翼还是右翼,对于他的评价都很负面。在对一个几乎是政治生涯活跃在2000之前和2000年初期的副总统来说,“盖棺定论"似乎早就被完成。 而近些年来,布什政府和其他共和党总统及其同僚,似乎都在现任二逼政府的对比中,反倒显得温情且睿智起来了。发动了伊战的小布什成为了一个有趣可爱的角色(记得他偷偷给Michelle Obama手心里塞糖吃然后被媒体温情报道吗?);但是实际上,布什和切尼在位时期的中东政策对中东局势基本是毁灭性的。 《为副不仁》这部电影,就是对这种修正性叙事的回击。它说白了,这部电影就是向大家再解释一遍: 小布什和迪克·切尼是真的很坏很坏哦,比如说,balabalabala…… 小声喧哗在这期节目中,结合了大量的历史回顾,通过不同的角度,解释、回顾了这部电影所描绘的那些情节和背后的事实。除去以上内容,我们还聊了: 伊拉克战争是一场师出无名的石油战争吗? 当年的美国国务卿鲍威尔臭名昭著的(赶鸭子上架的)联合国演讲是如何发生的? 扎卡维和ISIS的崛起在电影中是怎么被呈现的? 这部电影的"死白左”视角携带了多少偏见?能否被正名? 对于行为上有明显问题的政治家,我们是否应该枭雄化? 节目在这里: https://www.ximalaya.com/thirdparty/player/sound/player.html?id=161972264&type=red 可以从第一张图扫码在喜马拉雅上收听本期节目,iTunes, Spotify等各大平台也能找到我们。Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

38mins

20 Feb 2019

Rank #1

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S3 E1 Marriage Story: a story of love, loss, and social contract

Welcome back to Loud Murmurs Season 3 and happy New Year to our listeners!We start the year strong with a deep dive into the timeless theme of the “unhappily-ever-after battle of the sexes” -- divorce. Your hosts, Afra, Ina, along with our guest Mr. You, discuss Noah Baumbach’s frontrunner in the Oscar horse race, Marriage Story. Beautifully acted by Adam Driver and Scarlett Johanson, Marriage Story offers a snapshot of a husband and wife navigating the emotionally and physically draining process of divorce. Here are a couple of things we discuss: The dismantling of an American middle-class family, a common theme of Baumbach’s movies, and how this core demographic impacts the movies that he’s madeWomen’s role as a mother, a wife, and how it’s viewed by society What’s divorce really like (a personal experience)?Links to movies we discuss:The Squid and the WhaleKramer vs. KramerAs always, thank you for your support! Please consider donating monthly to our Patreon project: https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs or https://afdian.net/@loudmurmurs You can find us in the iTunes podcast store, Google Play, Spotify, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and feel free to drop us a note and leave us a review. RSS feed: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/258327.rss Itunes: https://apple.co/2VAVf0Z Google play: goo.gl/KjRYPN Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2IWNuRB Pocket Cast: http://pca.st/nLid Overcast: https://bit.ly/2SL7MNJ Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

47mins

4 Feb 2020

Rank #2

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S2 E7: Being Chinese, Female, and Funny: A Conversation with Three Stand-up Comedians

In this episode, we invited three talented ladies to talk about their experience of being Chinese women that tell jokes, and being paid to get on a stage to do it. We had so much fun creating this episode, we hope you enjoy it too!Listen to find out:Why are puns funny and why one of the guests was almost kicked out the chatHow do comedians cope with bombing and heckling during live showsWhat do journalism and stand-up comedy have in commonWhich part of this episode we will edit out to launch on Chinese platformsWhat are their favorite jokesFind us in the iTunes podcast store, Google Play, Spotify, 喜马拉雅 for our fans in China, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and feel free to drop us a note and leave us a review. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

47mins

11 May 2019

Rank #3

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S2 E16: Growing up as the only daughter in "One Child Nation"

In this episode, Loud Murmur’s three hosts, Izzy, @CaptainIna0328 (Ina), and @Diaodiaoyang (Diaodiao) discussed the critically acclaimed film that technically does not exist in China -- "One Child Nation" by Nanfu Wang and Jialing Zhang. We got very personal in this episode. Join us for an intimate, informative, and in-depth discussion on:Our experience growing up as an only child -- more specifically, daughters, and our complex and evolving perception of the policy.The under-covered, underestimated impact of the One Child policy on an entire generation of Chinese women -- including our own mothers.The groundbreaking investigative journalism piece 邵氏弃儿 (“The Orphan of Shao”), and how the absence of independent investigative journalism transformed the mandarin public discourse in mainland China.Last but not least: Follow us on Twitter at @loudmurmurs Find us on iTunes, Google Play, Spotify, 喜马拉雅, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and drop us a note or leave us a review. We’d love to know what you think of our show!If you want to support Loud Murmurs, please join our Patreon project, donating $1-$5 per month to help us keep doing what we do!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

37mins

8 Sep 2019

Rank #4

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S2 E20: The Uplifting Nihilism of Rick and Morty

The four of us at Loud Murmurs are beyond excited to welcome back Season Four of Rick and Morty (Nov. 10 airdate) with our very own two-part special. We take a deep dive into the world of R&M with four guests through five episodesIn Part 1, Izzy and Diaodiao sits down with physicist Zhichen Zhao, and another physicist philosopher Chentong Lu, to discuss three of our favorite episodes: A Rickle in Time, Auto Erotic Assimilation, and, (drumroll please), Picke Rick!We cover off on some of the following themes:Our physicists attempt to convince the hosts not to take the science shown in R&M too seriously, then proceeds to explain concepts such as alternative universes and Schrodinger’s cat We analyze how ‘Auto Erotic Assimilation’ employs the concept of freedom in political philosophy, and how R&M constantly brings up philosophical concepts and dismisses them within a five minute spanNihilism! (How fun!)If everything means nothing, all cakes are just atoms in the end, why do we still live our lives, love our loved ones, and do good deeds? What’s the point of it all?As always, thank you for your support and stay tuned for Rick and Morty Part 2! If you want to support us, consider donating monthly to our Patreon project: https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs  or https://afdian.net/@loudmurmursYou can find us on iTunes, Google Play, Spotify, CastBox or wherever you listen to podcasts. Itunes: https://apple.co/2VAVf0ZGoogle play: goo.gl/KjRYPNSpotify: https://spoti.fi/2IWNuRBSoundcloud:https://bit.ly/2FqToIwRSS feed: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/258327.rssPocket Cast: http://pca.st/nLidOvercast: https://bit.ly/2SL7MNJ喜马拉雅:https://bit.ly/2TrxJpZ Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

57mins

28 Oct 2019

Rank #5

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S1 E4: Black Panther: Marvel's new superhero, Afrofuturism, and what this all means in China

In this episode, Izzy and Diao Diao chat with our dear friend Luke about Black Panther. Aside from fangirling over Michael B. Jordan, we discuss the theme of Afrofuturism in the movie and dive into how the Chinese audience interpret Marvel's newest hit, Your hosts Izzy, Diao Diao, and our guest Luke. 小声喧哗的第四期,你们的主持人Izzy, 刁刁以及嘉宾Luke聊了聊最近大热的漫威超级英雄电影《黑豹》。《黑豹》讲了一个发生在想象中的国家瓦坎达国的故事。和之前我们看过的漫威超级英雄电影不同,这部电影的从创作人员到主演,都是黑人。除了帅到炸裂的男配角和男主角以外,这部电影在哪些方面冲击了哪些我们对非洲局限的想象力?Izzy讲解了“非洲未来主义”(Afrofuturism)以及这个艺术流派的意义:谁才有资格想象未来?为什么给与一部分”想象未来“的权利也是赋权的重要部分? 刁刁在节目里聊了“政治正确”在中国语境下的负面含义,《黑豹》这部电影真的是为了迎合美国“政治正确”而被好莱坞制造出来的一步爆米花电影吗?或者说,“政治正确”只不过是一个居高临下的政治话术?另外,女性角色是讨论的重要部分。在电影里面,看起来最炫酷的、武力值、科技值最强的都是女性,Luke回答了这种形象塑造颠覆的偏见背后的社会意义。 在吹了《黑豹》很久以后,我们聊了聊这部让人血脉喷张的大片的局限之处。刁刁给我们梳理了她认为电影中挥之不去的”白人视角“。这部电影和真正的非洲以及活跃在非洲的独裁者重合之处有多少?哪些情节是抓取于现实?哪些情节只是好莱坞一厢情愿的想象呢? 《黑豹》在中国的现象级票房和春晚的”种族歧视“小品折射出了中国人对非洲、黑人的怎样的观念呢?”政治正确“是评价艺术的标准之一吗?你怎么看?Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

49mins

20 Mar 2018

Rank #6

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S2 E17: American Factory: When Two Worlds Collide

If you want to support us, consider donating monthly to our Patreon project: _________________________________________________________________________ The much requested episode on “American Factory” is finally here!  In this episode, hosts Diaoiao, Izzy and Afra are joined by guests Master Zhu and Zhang Zhe to talk about the critically-acclaimed documentary produced by Michelle and Barack Obama’s “Higher Ground Productions.”  “American Factory” is a documentary that touches on multiple grand themes of our time: globalization, manufacturing, automation and inevitable tensions between a rising China and a perceived “formerly great” United States.  Here’s what we talked (nerded out) about:  How is the doc received in China and in the States? How does the doc portray American and Chinese company cultures respectively? Accurate? What are the complicated economic and political drivers behind Fuyao’s investment in Dayton, Ohio? Why does it make sense for Fuyao to extend its supply chain in the U.S.?What’s the difference between FDI in advanced economies vs. FDI in developing economies? We talked about Chinese companies experience in Africa. Why are the Obamas interested in this particular topic? What does Higher Group Productions want to achieve? What role does the union play in the U.S.? What is the history behind its influence?What are the most surreal scenes in this doc to us.From “MAGA” to “MATH,” what do the messages of Donald Trump and Andrew Yang have in common? We talk about automation and the future of work.  The articles we mentioned in this episode:  “Chinese boss, American factory” by Master Zhu for Initium  “Beyond controversy—China’s real presence in Zambia” by Zhang Zhe So, this is quite a dense one! But we are so excited to share this with you. All five people in this episode have split our lives living in China and the U.S. and we share the feeling of “code-switching every other second” while watching this documentary.  We hope you enjoy our discussion and tell us what you think of the show. You can find us on iTunes, Google Play, Spotify, CastBox or wherever you listen to podcasts.  Itunes: https://apple.co/2VAVf0ZGoogle play: goo.gl/KjRYPNSpotify: https://spoti.fi/2IWNuRBSoundcloud:https://bit.ly/2FqToIwRSS feed: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/258327.rssPocket Cast: http://pca.st/nLidOvercast: https://bit.ly/2SL7MNJ Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

50mins

22 Sep 2019

Rank #7

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S1 E2: Finding Love In A Hopeless Place

Today we continue our discussion of the Oscars nominees for Best Picture: Phantom Thread and Call Me By Your Name. These are two vastly different films in how they interpret and portray love and intimate relationships. Hope you enjoy! Your Hosts: Afra, Ina, and Izzy Our Guest: Daniel Music: Bensound.com 1:05 -- Phantom Thread 33:12 -- Call Me By Your Name 51:54 -- The Post, Darkest Hour 1:04:00 -- Our predictions 这一期节目我们继续聊(撕)了奥斯卡的其他几个提名电影:《霓裳魅影》(Phantom Thread),《请以你的名字呼唤我》(Call Me By Your Name )以及《华盛顿邮报》(The Post). 这期我们在纽约的妇女之友/闺蜜Daneil加入了讨论。 《霓裳魅影》讲了一个伦敦的高定裁缝和他情人之间的纠缠。Daniel梳理了导演汤玛斯·保罗·安德森(Thomas Paul Anderson)和非常开挂的三届影帝得主丹尼尔·戴·路易斯(Daniel Day Lewis)的风格和往期作品。我们还从电影主人公病态的人格入手,撕了撕这种”偏执天才“系类型片,也讨论了主人公到底是不是一个妈宝男,以及他和女主的共生且病态的恋情。 《请以你的名字呼唤我》讲了一段发生在1980年代北意大利小镇的同性恋情。两个男主角甜茶Timothee Chalamet和阿米·汗莫(Armie Hammer)都因为这部电影吸粉不少。亲姐粉Afra在激动之余讲了这部电影的去政治化特质。Ina和Izzy分别从原著改编和其他角度讲了这部电影的独特之处。 最后,我们聊了聊好莱坞的良心电影,《华盛顿邮报》。这部依时而制的政治电影究竟是让人觉得眼前一亮,还是其实是梅姨和汤姆汉克斯等人的”旧瓶装旧酒“呢?Izzy认为,这部电影的“伟光正”让人审美疲劳,故事情节也很无力,Afra认为这是一部大咖们用“交税般”的心态制作出的一部“责任电影”。这部电影回击了现下政府的无能和对媒体宣战的丑态,把尼克松时期的“五角大楼文件”事件梳理出来之后,让观众意识到了媒体的职责和报纸铅字背后的心血与挣扎。 谢谢大家收听我们这期的节目,下一期,我们会聊聊漫威的热门电影《黑豹》(Black Panther)!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

1hr 10mins

9 Mar 2018

Rank #8

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S2 E19: Parasite: Up and Down the Class Divide Chasm

If you want to support us, consider donating monthly to our Patreon project or Aifadian (爱发电):_________________________________________________________________________ In this episode, hosts Ina and Afra are joined by guest Youfei to talk about Bong Joon Ho’s Parasite, the first Korean film to win the top prize, the Palme d’Or, at this year’s Cannes Film Festival.  The story, contrary to what its title might suggest, is essentially about how a lower-class unemployed family, the Kims, managed to infiltrate an upper-class family, the Parks. It’s a ‘tragicomedy’ that zones in the ever-growing chasm of class divide that we’re witnessing in today’s society -- exemplified here in Korea but its impact and lessons are truly universal, reaching beyond the country where the movie takes place. Here’s what we talked (nerded out) about:  What we liked and disliked the most about the movieCompared it to ‘Burning’, another critically-acclaimed film by a South Korean director that painted a picture of class divide -- how are they different, and in what ways?The all things American are being worshipped in the movie Why is the movie widely received in China and why are people resonating with it?How does the doc portray the two classes in the movie? Is there an issue of overly-stereotyping and portraying characters as caricatures? What are the complicated economic and political drivers behind the societal problem illustrated in this movie?  We hope you enjoy our discussion and tell us what you think of the show and the doc.  If you want to support us, consider donating monthly to our Patreon project: https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs You can find us on iTunes, Google Play, Spotify, CastBox or wherever you listen to podcasts.  Itunes: https://apple.co/2VAVf0ZGoogle play: goo.gl/KjRYPNSpotify: https://spoti.fi/2IWNuRBSoundcloud:https://bit.ly/2FqToIwRSS feed: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/258327.rssPocket Cast: http://pca.st/nLidOvercast: https://bit.ly/2SL7MNJ喜马拉雅:https://bit.ly/2TrxJpZ 网易云音乐电台:https://music.163.com/#/djradio?id=793846386 Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

45mins

14 Oct 2019

Rank #9

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S1 E17: BoJack Horseman and existential nihilism in Chinese context

This episode is joined by our old friend, Santu, who earned his philosophy Ph.D. at Columbia University and now a J.D candidate at Yale University, and our new friend, Mr. Qian, who's also pursuing his degree at Yale University. In this episode, we recap the previous seasons of BoJack Horseman and raise questions such as why this Netflix show resonates with so many Chinese viewers, and to what extent, it reflects the exhausting reality in urban China? Aside from "Philosophy 101" content, the host Diaodiao mentioned "sang culture," a trendy lifestyle in China celebrating the acceptance of bleak perspectives. Why is that? Are we the Sisyphus who are trapped by the repeating norms that have no meanings? What is BoJack Horseman trying to tell us? ”BoJack Horseman“——「马男波杰克」, 一个红遍微博的存在虚无主义动画片。因为他的“丧”戳中了我们当代生活最无奈的软肋,于是,很多个带着马男波杰克对话的截图成了我们戏谑生活的表达途径。BoJack Horseman这部动画里常常出现一种毫无解决方式的”惨“和毫不犹豫的对生活的反抗,然而,Todd, Mr. Peanutbutter和Princess Carolyn等人,又把更多和”生存“这件痛苦的事实相处的不同的模式,抽象成了丰满的虚拟人物,我们每个人身边都能找出来对应这几个人物的朋友,不是吗? 自从听说「马男波杰克」第五季要在九月中旬在Netflix上映后, 小声喧哗制作组就决定要聊一聊这部充满了无限哲学意味的Netflix动画”BoJack Horseman“。在这集史上最长的”存在主义动画播客“里,有我们熟悉的主持人刁刁,和新朋友——来自耶鲁大学经济系博士,钱老师,我们还请来了老朋友——哥伦比亚大学的哲学博士,现耶鲁法学院法学博士在读的林三土老师。 这集播客的野心,不仅要穿透”波杰克爆红”的现象和动画的剧情,还涉及到了许多非常本质的议题,比方说: 家庭、婚姻、事业的成就是终极目标,还是无意义的排遣?BoJack眼中的奥斯卡,是否就是消解”终极成就“的化身? 朝九晚五的我们,是法国哲学家加缪口中,推着石头日复一日上山的西西福斯吗? 为什么这部成人动画用动物,去携带如此沉重的人物形象,动画本身又对这些人物形象有哪些调侃,埋伏了哪些双关? 为什么这样一个存在虚无主义动画片在中国可以这么红?和国内的所谓“丧文化”有什么关系?它跟其他内核类似的丧剧有什么不同? Todd的“失败者”人物形象有什么突破?他的种种意外成就和他的asexuality,代表了BoJack背后这帮牛逼天才编剧们,对传统强势白人男性形象的怎样的讽刺?Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

1hr 7mins

26 Oct 2018

Rank #10

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S2 E6: "Love, Death & Robots" and Chinese Sci-fi's Golden Age

In the past few years, science fiction as a genre has entered the Chinese mainstream in an unprecedented way, thanks to sci-fi writers from China and from the Chinese diaspora. If “The Three Body Problem” introduced the world to Chinese sci-fi, then the 2019 blockbuster “The Wandering Earth” (acquired by Netflix) certainly kept the momentum going. This is the context under which we are having this discussion about Netflix’s high-profile sci-fi animation anthology “Love, Death & Robots." The series was received extremely positively by the Chinese audience (according to Douban ratings.) But Loud Murmurs being Loud Murmurs, we will not only talk about the stories themselves but also how gender and sex play a role in them. We are honored to be joined by acclaimed Chinese sci-fi author Chen Qiufan, whose works have won three Galaxy Awards for Chinese Science Fiction. To Chinese sci-fi fans, Qiufan needs no introduction. Highlights: In the episode “Beyond the Aquila Rift”, there’s a long CGI sex scene in space. Does the scene serve the plot or does it merely serve a trite male fantasy? Would this story still make sense if the genders of the two main characters are reversed? Is there a subtle religious theme to this story? We really like the 8th episode, “Good Hunting,” which combines elements of “silk punk” and “Strange Stories from a Chinese Studio” (Liaozhaozhiyi by Qing Dynasty author Pu Songling). This is written by Chinese American science fiction author Ken Liu, a friend of our guest Chen Qiufan and translator of the “Three Body Problem.” There’s a difference between cultural appropriation and appreciation. We think this story is doing it the right way. Why are so many episodes in “Love, Death and Robots” accused of sexualizing the female body and glorifying violence towards women? Is this a bigger problem with the sci-fi genre in general? As a science fiction writer, Chen Qiufan’s works often concern the theme of “justice.” How does Chen explore this theme in the Chinese context and challenge the social status quo? How can male sci-fi writers better include the perspective of women, create fully developed female characters with agency, and challenge the -isms of our real world when building new, imaginative worlds? The English version of Chen Qiufan’s book “The Waste Tide” has just come out. Please check it out here! Thanks for listening! Find us in the iTunes podcast store, Google Play, Spotify, 喜马拉雅 for our fans in China, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and feel free to drop us a note and leave us a review. BECOME A PATRON TO SUPPORT US:https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

53mins

15 Apr 2019

Rank #11

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S2 E12: Asian American movies that are giving us ALL THE FEELS- The Farewell & Always Be My Maybe

In this episode, the three hosts (Ina, Izzy, Diaodiao) talk about two films starring Asian Americans as lead actors: The Farewell and Always Be My Maybe. The Farewell is director Lulu Wang (Wang Ziyi)'s second feature film. It is based on her family's story and stars our favorite Asian American rapper Awkwafina. The three of us went to watch "Farewell" together and walked out with equally prominent puffy eyes. We were impressed to see how accurately this film portrayed the tension, unspoken rules and emotions in a Chinese family gathering setting. There are very uniquely Chinese elements: 80% of the lines in the movie are spoken in fluent Mandarin; the hilarious tomb visiting scene and the cousin's grand wedding scene. But the film also touches on universal themes, like what it means to be a stranger in your own hometown; the emotional baggage that comes with immigrant life and the cultural differences between Western culture and Chinese culture.We dove into what made us laugh and cry, the absence of "explanatory commas" in movies depicting immigrant culture, brilliant and reserved acting, and more. In the second half of this episode, we talked about the romantic comedy "Always Be My Maybe", what we love and not love about the film and why there nonetheless need to be more movies like it. Be aware of 5-10 minutes of collective fan-girling over Keanu Reeves' cameo. Please let us know what you think of these two films. You can email us at Loudmurmursfm@gmail.com or follow us on Weibo.Find Loud Murmurs in the iTunes podcast store, Google Play, Spotify, 喜马拉雅, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and feel free to drop us a note and leave us a review.Last but not least: If you want to show your support, head over to our Patreon page! We would really appreciate your help! Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

29mins

7 Jul 2019

Rank #12

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S1 E16: Crazy Rich Asians - A Tale of Two Generations of Immigrants

Today we are joined by Tony (weibo: @没有羊先生) and Xiaozi (weibo: @少年字) for a discussion on the all-Asian cast blockbuster Crazy Rich Asians. The movie received stellar ratings amongst critics and audiences alike, and is acclaimed as a major step towards screen representation for the Asian American community. The success, however, confused many Chinese movie-goers, as they saw only a rom-com not far from the traditional formula. What do you think about this movie? Swoon-worthy? Razzle-dazzling? Empowering or misrepresented? Tell us what you think by leaving comments on Weibo, Twitter, WeChat, iTunes, and Soundcloud. And yes we read all of them. 今天我们请到了Tony(微博@没有羊先生)和小字(微博@少年字)来聊一聊最近大热的Crazy Rich Asians。 这部电影在美国,尤其是亚裔群体里被评为里程碑式的电影,亚裔的《黑豹》;却被国内观众认为乏善可陈,不过是一个普通的霸道总裁灰姑娘爱情剧。这部华裔拍给世界的浪漫爱情喜剧和中国观众有哪些错位?电影里强烈的“宫斗感”从哪里来?杨紫琼和Constance Wu的麻将对手戏有什么深意?这可以算是一部有进步意义的电影吗?Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

56mins

17 Sep 2018

Rank #13

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S1 E7: Isle of Dogs and how much does Wes Anderson really love Japan?

In our latest episode, five dog lovers chat enthusiastically about Wes Anderson's "Isle of Dogs." Your usual hosts and their friend Daniel dives deep into the world of Wes Anderson and share our thoughts on how his latest film can be seen as problematic to the Japanese culture. 第七期:汪汪汪汪汪汪汪韦斯·安德森的《犬之岛》 小声喧哗的这期节目是关于4月20日在中国上映的定格动画电影《犬之岛》。这部电影由极具个人风格的美国导演韦斯·安德森(Wes Anderson)执导。大家可能对韦斯·安德森的强迫症般的摄影风格并不陌生,这部电影和他之前的作品类似:画面华丽浓郁、镜头对称、并且细节出彩。除了讨论韦斯·安德森的美学教条主义(Daniel不小心瞎编了Anderson Doctrine这个术语),我们还非常努力地(过度)解读了很多情节。从批评韦斯·安德森的西方视角入手,我们聊了聊电影中的日本元素的展现,以及这个被重构的日本的可商榷之处。当然了,性别与种族在电影中的呈现一直是小声喧哗最关心的元素。我们也聊了电影里面,女性角色的薄弱及种族问题。本期除了四位常驻主播Izzy, Ina, Afra, 和刁刁之外,好基友Daniel也加入了讨论。 Izzy批评了电影中日本元素的呈现,当“日本”化身成了太鼓、寿司、俳句,我们不难看出来导演日本的理解以及呈现过于粗浅。Ina还提到了安德森雇了一位非常捉急的寿司大师做咨询,Izzy提到了主角“Atari”这个听起来很日本但却没有任何含义的名字所传达出来的西方人对日本似是而非的理解——反映出了在后殖民主义的框架下,即使在学界对此进行了多年反思,导演可能依旧缺乏文化敏感性。 在韦斯·安德森的世界里,日本是一个政治寓言的发生地。Afra认为,电影的结尾是以寓言故事的方式处理。另外,电影中的语言障碍是一个人为的文化隔阂,即使是导演故意为之,但它剥夺了观众去了解讲日语的人物向观众传达心理的权利,因此他们在某种程度上并没有真正完整的人格。 Ina则认为,即使电影的文化元素不那么让人满意,但是这仍旧是一部温情的如同小王子般的童话电影。它继承了导演的一贯风格,在探险元素和温情主题中,这不失是一部能让人好好在 大银幕前被感动的电影。 刁刁提到了电影里的文化挪用,她认为文化本身就应该被反刍。不是因为韦斯安德森是白人就不能反刍东方文化。同时,刁刁引出了电影中很值得吐槽的性别问题,在几个不多的女性角色中,对女性角色的呈现是突出她们的软弱和性感:女研究员是个无法承受打击的弱鸡,小(母)狗豆蔻是个有大胸并且声音迷人的花瓶角色。至于交换Tracy,她是个当仁不让,一心拯救直世界的white savior——每次这样的角色都落在白人头上,不烦吗? 除此之外,我们还(过度)解读了犬之岛的后人类场景以及Megasaki (对应长崎Nagasaki) 这个城市的名字,是否在隐喻核战、海啸、核辐射后的日本。 Daniel聊到了昭和时代晚期的日本精神,电影里“未来的Magasaki”是还原经济腾飞、创造科技神话的昭和晚期吗?以及“昭和”印象是日本的商品化的文化输出。Izzy认为日本昭和晚期的文化灿烂是不争的事实,一大批艺术家、思想家和文化人士塑造了一个独特的具有现代性的日本文化,那个时代对西方世界的文化反输出是他们努力的结果。 另外,我们还聊了: 日本人看这个电影啥感受? 美籍日本人看这个电影啥感受? 电影对美国的少数族裔的文化认同和身份认同上有啥影响? 电影对哪些日本导演致敬? 最后,最后,我们分别推荐了五部逼格有高有低的小众电影。快来听本期播客find out吧!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

50mins

27 Apr 2018

Rank #14

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S2 E2: Roma, a masterpiece of microhistory

Joined by our friend and a Roma-hater Lierke, Loud Murmurs unveils the reception of this Oscar-winning masterpiece Roma in China and beyond. What is the resemblance between 70s Mexico and China, and why should we pay attention to its unique production model? How streaming economy is pushing a reform of the entertainment industry and the prestigious awards? Why do we care about underrepresented people/regions? 这届奥斯卡典礼上,最让人动容的是年轻的墨西哥女演员、1993年出生的耶莉莎·阿帕里西奥(Yalitza Aparicio)牵着自己母亲的手,走上了奥斯卡的红毯。 奥斯卡一直被看做是一个一个难以冲破的权力、名望、金钱、文化霸权的象征。耶莉莎在出演《罗马》这部电影之前,在墨西哥一个偏远的城市做教师,从未接触过表演,她的母亲是一个家务工人,她们距离举世关注的红毯,不仅是阶级之遥。这次,她们两位在奥斯卡的现身,是比任何奖项都值得记下的瞬间,也是拉丁裔在主流电影届的高光时刻。耶莉莎在《罗马》中扮演了一名墨西哥原住民的家佣Cleo,因她出色的表演获得第91届奥斯卡金像奖的最佳女主角提名。 《罗马》这部电影也因为众多标签,在颁奖季显得格外出众:本片的导演阿方索·卡隆是好莱坞”墨西哥三杰“的一员,他导演的《地心引力》(2013年)和《人类之子》(2006年)都得到了极高的赞誉。在刚刚过去的奥斯卡上,卡隆也一举因为这部电影获得了最佳导演小金人。 此外,这部电影由美国流媒体巨头Netflix制作发行,和“传统”好莱坞电影的轨迹有所不同。《罗马》基于故事发生在墨西哥城的一个中产阶级社区“罗马”,讲述年轻女佣克里奥(耶莉莎·阿帕里西奥饰)在雇主索菲亚(玛丽娜·德·塔维拉饰)家中工作,故事以Cleo为中心,讲述了这一家子人的个人命运在时代背景下从1970年一直到1971年的故事。 在这集播客里,小声喧哗请来了我们的朋友李尔克(这是真名无误)来和我们聊聊《罗马》这部电影的突破和局限。 李尔克作为一个罕见的《罗马》黑,认为这部电影在人物塑造上有许多问题。除了和李尔克(克制地)争论之外,这期小声喧哗的节目还聊了: 流媒体Netflix如何颠覆了电影产业,也在慢慢被传统奖项接受。 《罗马》讲了怎样一个“小视角的史诗巨作”故事? 为什么通过“阶级”“雇主”等解读仍然无法概况《罗马》的视角? 《罗马》中采取了哪些震撼的美学技巧? 欢迎收听本期节目,喜马拉雅,Castbox, Spotify等各大平台也能找到我们。Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

42mins

28 Feb 2019

Rank #15

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S1 E5: 'Queer Eye' in a New Age

In our latest episode, we chat about Netflix's new hot (in every aspect) show: 'Queer Eye.' Your hosts Afra, Izzy, and Ina chat with our friends Bing and Lena (our very own 'Fab 5') about our favorite people and moments from the show, the history of LGBTQ on screen, and what this all means in today's day and age. 这一期播客我们请来了两位身处LGBTQ群体的嘉宾Bing和黎娜一起剖析最近大热的真人秀《粉雄救兵》(Queer Eye)。 2003年的老版《粉雄救兵》在许多维度上都可以认为是历史性的。同性恋群体——尤其是男性同性恋群体——在历史上长期背负着诸多恶意的标签,从“娘娘腔”到“恋童癖”不一而足。2003年Fab 5的横空出世让同性恋群体以一个新的形象出现在大众视野里:精致,会生活,毒舌而善于沟通,心怀善意帮助其他的群体发现更好的自己。 15年之后,LGBTQ群体走过了许多历史性事件,既迎来了世界多个国家和地区同性婚姻的合法化,也遇到了2017年的右翼保守主义抬头。新时代的LGBTQ群体是会欢迎同性恋男性的“精致男孩”标签,还是把这种标签视为刻板印象的另一种形态?来自不同背景的观众如何看待同性恋群体在大众媒体越来越多的表现?Bing从自己一个已经出柜的同性恋男性和纪录片制作人的双重视角剖析了这一点。 此外,新版《粉雄救兵》将Fab 5来到美国南方的乔治亚州,几乎跨越了整个美国政治光谱,把几个传统意义上的自由派青年空降到了美国最保守也最贫穷的南方腹地。Afra指出了《粉雄救兵》差强人意的一点——让几位“沿海城市精英”对农民和警察的生活方式指指点点,让人觉得制作人对改造者和被改造者阶级差异的处理未免显得欠考虑。Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

1hr

5 Apr 2018

Rank #16

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S2 E8: Game of Thrones - The Night Is Dark And Full Of Strong Female Characters

Today marks the conclusion of a show that ¾ of the Loud Murmurs team have followed for eight entire years: Game of Thrones. (The very first episode aired in 2011, when we were still wee freshmen in college!)It’s no exaggeration to ascribe such significance to a single show -- GOT has dominated our screens (big or small) as well as the public discourse on pop culture for the better of a decade. In today’s episode, we invited a good friend, Danmiao, to join our two hosts Diaodiao and Ina to pay tribute to this fantasy-historical-drama. We discuss the show up to S8E4, and dive deep into our favorite characters and their journey in the seven kingdoms -- both the physical journey they undertake as well as the character development arc that the writers constructed for them. Of course, we also discuss our thoughts on the current season and our thoughts on the writing (it’s not great). Highlights:Why the Night King is the most environmentally-friendly global leader in all of the seven kingdomsHow’s the political arena in Westeros treating our women politicians: Dany, Sansa, and Cersei?How effective is Jon Snow’s “Winter is Coming” campaign slogan?As always, thanks for listening! Find us in the iTunes podcast store, Google Play, Spotify, 喜马拉雅 for our fans in China, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and feel free to drop us a note and leave us a review. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

54mins

21 May 2019

Rank #17

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S2 E9: The Handmaids Tale and Alabama's Human Life Protection Act

In anticipation of the third season of The Handmaid's Tale premiering June 5 on Hulu, this episode dives into the dystopian and misogynistic regime — as well as how recent news from Alabama remind us of how we’re not that far from these horrors. On May 15, the Human Life Protection Act, also known as House Bill 314 and the Alabama abortion ban was enacted, which imposes a near-total ban on abortion in the state starting in November 2019.The first two seasons of the show gathered a global following and is especially popular in China for its realistic portrayal of the national policing of women’s bodies. As the news from Alabama started trending on Weibo (Chinese Twitter), people became enraged — netizens were angry, because they didn’t understand how and why the allegedly “beacon nation” that usually puts humanism and individual freedom first has made this regression against abortion rights. We invited our dear friend (and a regular guest on the show) Santu (Yale JD candidate) and Feminist/Activist Lv Pin to join us in a discussion on the abortion ban through the lens of pop culture. We discuss both fictional and realistic dystopianism on both sides of the Pacific ocean. Please enjoy and find us in the iTunes podcast store, Google Play, Spotify, 喜马拉雅 for our fans in China, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and feel free to drop us a note and leave us a review.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

48mins

4 Jun 2019

Rank #18

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S2 E15: #NotMyMulan, cultural and racial representation in Hollywood

This week's episode is all about the "R" word: R-E-P-R-E-S-E-N-T-A-T-I-O-N.The casting of Chinese actress Liu Yifei (Crystal Liu) as Mulan in the upcoming Disney live-action movie and the trailer have drawn lots of criticisms in both the U.S. and in China (for obviously different reasons.) Some criticized it for historical inaccuracies, some take issue with the casting of Crystal, who has since voiced her support for Hong Kong police and the crack down on protesters by the government. It's not just Mulan, the entire Hollywood-centric American movie industry is engulfed in a debate over cultural, racial and political representation. In today’s episode, our hosts Afra and Diaodiao are joined by our guest, cinema studies Assistant Professor Ling Zhang from SUNY Purchase College to discuss the recent controversies around the casting for the Little Mermaid, the James Bond series, and Marvel’s Shang Qi. The trio use these current events as a springboard for in-depth analysis on how cultural representation is treated in films:Highlights:Hollywood has finally realized that representation can be good for business. Is this an inherently good thing or bad thing? At its core, is this tokenism disguised as representation, or truly a change for the better? How can moviegoers push for the latter?The point of view of the movie (via cinematography) is often structured strategically so the audience can resonate with the characters -- but this sense of empathy, or identifying with a certain character, can often be a dissonant experience for minorities, why is that? What role does colonialism play in Hollywood films?How should we interpret tokenism within the context of film? Why are Shang Qi, Fu Manchu (characters in the original film), products of tokenism?Thanks for listening! Find us on the iTunes podcast store, Google Play, Spotify, 喜马拉雅 for our fans in China, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and feel free to drop us a note and leave us a review. Donate to our Patreon page here! https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmursSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

44mins

26 Aug 2019

Rank #19

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S3 E2 Little Women: not all 'sweetness and light'

Title:S3E2: Little Women: not all 'sweetness and light'Today, your four hosts gather together to discuss a literary-turned-big-screen phenomenon that’s been sweeping the world and the awards ceremonies. We absolutely adore this modern-day adaptation by Greta Gerwig (who directed Lady Bird) and together, we explore the various themes within the movie. Many of us have read the novel at a younger age, so join us on this journey as we attempt to reconcile the world we knew back then, the world in which the story happens, and the world we live in today: many things have changed for the better, while others, not so much. A snapshot of some of the things we discuss in this episode:Louisa Alcott’s life and personality; broader socio-economic and historical background; and how these factors influenced the bookThe role of the female storyteller (both Alcott and Gerwig) and the stories they tell (and society’s reception of it)The coming of age story: women’s self actualization and its conflict with the construct of marriage Greta Gerwig’s career progression from actress to director, and her own evolved film styleLinks:Francis HaMistress AmericaAs always, thank you for your support! Please consider donating monthly to our Patreon project: https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs or https://afdian.net/@loudmurmursYou can find us in the iTunes podcast store, Google Play, Spotify, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and feel free to drop us a note and leave us a review. RSS feed: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/258327.rss Itunes: https://apple.co/2VAVf0Z Google play: goo.gl/KjRYPN Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2IWNuRB Pocket Cast: http://pca.st/nLid Overcast: https://bit.ly/2SL7MNJ Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

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17 Feb 2020

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