In this episode of The Ferment, Adam and Mike O'Brien (Director of Vineyard School of Worship) talk about the challenges and opportunities that accompany the beautiful season of summer! They discuss the value in flowing with the natural rhythms of your church, ideas about some investments you can make in your church and individuals, and some practical tips for planning your vacation time.    Show Notes:  Vineyard Worship Essentials 

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam and Mike O'Brien (Director of Vineyard School of Worship) talk about the challenges and opportunities that accompany the beautiful season of summer! They discuss the value in flowing with the natural rhythms of your church, ideas about some investments you can make in your church and individuals, and some practical tips for planning your vacation time.  Show Notes:  <a href="https://www.vineyardworship.com/essentials" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Vineyard Worship Essentials </a>

Flowing With Summertime Rhythms

John Morris

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam chats with Jimmy John Morris about living a double life as a senior pastor and drummer. Jimmy John describes how music is woven through his story of faith, and shares some words of wisdom for both worship leaders and senior pastors. And much to Jimmy John's delight, you'll hear the story of "The Hit."  Jimmy John Morris has been serving in the Vineyard for 30 years. They served over 20 years at the Yakima, WA Vineyard, spent two years in Texas, and moved back to Kent, WA to serve as the senior pastor in 2017. Prior to serving in the Vineyard, he was a professional musician and an educator. He has a Master of Arts degree in Biblical Studies from The Institute of Biblical Studies Seattle and a Masters of Arts degree in Global Urban Leadership from Bakke Graduate University. Jimmy John has also served on the Vineyard's Northwest Leadership team, as an area pastor, and served on both the NW youth and worship task forces. Jimmy John is passionate about seeing people become authentic followers of Jesus. He and his wife, Donna, have been married for 32 years and have two married children, David (&amp; Shelby), and Sara (&amp; Bryson), and he is a grandfather to Wesley, who he is now teaching how to play drums...at the age of two.   Show Notes: Vineyard Worship Essentials: https://www.vineyardworship.com/essentials

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam chats with Jimmy John Morris about living a double life as a senior pastor and drummer. Jimmy John describes how music is woven through his story of faith, and shares some words of wisdom for both worship leaders and senior pastors. And much to Jimmy John's delight, you'll hear the story of "The Hit."  Jimmy John Morris has been serving in the Vineyard for 30 years. They served over 20 years at the Yakima, WA Vineyard, spent two years in Texas, and moved back to Kent, WA to serve as the senior pastor in 2017. Prior to serving in the Vineyard, he was a professional musician and an educator. He has a Master of Arts degree in Biblical Studies from The Institute of Biblical Studies Seattle and a Masters of Arts degree in Global Urban Leadership from Bakke Graduate University. Jimmy John has also served on the Vineyard's Northwest Leadership team, as an area pastor, and served on both the NW youth and worship task forces. Jimmy John is passionate about seeing people become authentic followers of Jesus. He and his wife, Donna, have been married for 32 years and have two married children, David (&amp; Shelby), and Sara (&amp; Bryson), and he is a grandfather to Wesley, who he is now teaching how to play drums...at the age of two. Show Notes: Vineyard Worship Essentials: <a href="https://www.vineyardworship.com/essentials" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.vineyardworship.com/essentials</a>

God Loves All That You Are with Jimmy John Morris

Kyle Howard

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam talks with Kyle Howard about the joys and challenges of leading worship in a large church. Kyle shares about some practical and emotional considerations of leading worship for a diverse congregation, and ways that he works to create opportunities for people at different stages of faith to engage. They also talk through some details relating to administration, worship team gatherings, and coordinating midweek and Sunday teams.  Since his early teenage years, it’s been obvious to those around Kyle that he would be making a huge impact in the worship culture of his generation. He began leading worship in the youth ministry at Vineyard Church of Urbana at the young age of 14 and continues his leadership today as the lead Worship Pastor and Creative Director. In the last few years, he has been featured on multiple Vineyard Worship albums and is flourishing in his gift of songwriting. Kyle’s deepest passion is to see people encounter the loving embrace of the Father and to walk in the fullness of who they were made to be as sons and daughters.   Kyle and his beautiful wife Shelby recently had their first son. They are loving life together and share a joint passion for good ice cream. In his free time, Kyle is an avid golfer, a pretty solid basketball player and a professional at buying tennis shoes. (No joke, always look at his shoes.)   Show Notes:  Vineyard Worship Essentials: https://www.vineyardworship.com/essentials

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam talks with Kyle Howard about the joys and challenges of leading worship in a large church. Kyle shares about some practical and emotional considerations of leading worship for a diverse congregation, and ways that he works to create opportunities for people at different stages of faith to engage. They also talk through some details relating to administration, worship team gatherings, and coordinating midweek and Sunday teams.  Since his early teenage years, it’s been obvious to those around Kyle that he would be making a huge impact in the worship culture of his generation. He began leading worship in the youth ministry at Vineyard Church of Urbana at the young age of 14 and continues his leadership today as the lead Worship Pastor and Creative Director. In the last few years, he has been featured on multiple Vineyard Worship albums and is flourishing in his gift of songwriting. Kyle’s deepest passion is to see people encounter the loving embrace of the Father and to walk in the fullness of who they were made to be as sons and daughters.   Kyle and his beautiful wife Shelby recently had their first son. They are loving life together and share a joint passion for good ice cream. In his free time, Kyle is an avid golfer, a pretty solid basketball player and a professional at buying tennis shoes. (No joke, always look at his shoes.) Show Notes:  Vineyard Worship Essentials: <a href="https://www.vineyardworship.com/essentials" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.vineyardworship.com/essentials</a>

Leading Worship In A Large Church with Kyle Howard

Megan Zeilinger

This week we continue our a three-part series on leading worship in different-sized churches.  In this episode of The Ferment, Adam chats with Megan Zeilinger about leading worship in a midsized church, some practical steps for building a relational team, and how she dealt with a season of carrying a desire for church growth that she wasn't seeing. Megan also shares about the songs that are currently speaking to her church.  Megan Zeilinger is the worship pastor at Tehachapi Vineyard Church. She is passionate about hospitality and making space for people to experience the love and presence of God in corporate worship. She loves coffee, authentic conversations, and watching people’s lives be transformed by the love and kindness of Jesus. Her husband, Jeff, leads the Production Team, and together they love serving the church with what they have been given to give away. Megan, Jeff, and their adorable two-year-old daughter live in Tehachapi, California.   Show Notes:  Vineyard Worship Essentials: https://www.vineyardworship.com/essentials

This week we continue our a three-part series on leading worship in different-sized churches.  In this episode of The Ferment, Adam chats with Megan Zeilinger about leading worship in a midsized church, some practical steps for building a relational team, and how she dealt with a season of carrying a desire for church growth that she wasn't seeing. Megan also shares about the songs that are currently speaking to her church.  Megan Zeilinger is the worship pastor at Tehachapi Vineyard Church. She is passionate about hospitality and making space for people to experience the love and presence of God in corporate worship. She loves coffee, authentic conversations, and watching people’s lives be transformed by the love and kindness of Jesus. Her husband, Jeff, leads the Production Team, and together they love serving the church with what they have been given to give away. Megan, Jeff, and their adorable two-year-old daughter live in Tehachapi, California. Show Notes:  Vineyard Worship Essentials: <a href="https://www.vineyardworship.com/essentials" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.vineyardworship.com/essentials</a>

Leading Worship In A Midsized Church with Megan Zeilinger

Derek McTavish

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam chats with Derek McTavish about his experiences leading worship in a small college town church for the last 20 years, including some of the unique joys and challenges, and the creativity and flexibility required.  Derek also shares an encouragement for other worship leaders at smaller churches.    Derek McTavish lives in Athens, GA, with his wife and 5 kids. He has served as the worship leader at the Athens Vineyard Church since 2004. He listens to a lot of music and loves camping and college football. He’s a Tolkien nerd and isn’t ashamed to admit he loves professional wrestling.    Show notes:  Athens Vineyard  https://www.athensvineyard.com/ 

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam chats with Derek McTavish about his experiences leading worship in a small college town church for the last 20 years, including some of the unique joys and challenges, and the creativity and flexibility required.  Derek also shares an encouragement for other worship leaders at smaller churches.    Derek McTavish lives in Athens, GA, with his wife and 5 kids. He has served as the worship leader at the Athens Vineyard Church since 2004. He listens to a lot of music and loves camping and college football. He’s a Tolkien nerd and isn’t ashamed to admit he loves professional wrestling.    Show notes:  Athens Vineyard  <a href="https://www.athensvineyard.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.athensvineyard.com/ </a>

Joys And Challenges Of Leading Worship In A Smaller Church with Derek McTavish

Keva Green

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam talks with Keva Green about accepting Jesus as a child and growing up in a musical home. Keva shares about her work with Restorative Justice ministries, keeping her heart buoyant while staying proximate to the people in her community, and creating a worship space that is both encompassing of the diversity of her church and also stretching. Finally, Keva shares what she's looking forward to, and some words for the broader Vineyard Worship community.  Keva Green is a pastor on staff at the Evanston Vineyard. She was born and raised in Southern California. After receiving her B.A. in Black Studies and Women’s Studies, God connected her to a church where she learned to love the Bible, experienced deep community, and discovered God’s concern for those on the margins of society. Since then, Keva has been passionate about the church’s role in meeting the spiritual and material needs of those experiencing lack. She later earned her Master of Public Administration degree from Syracuse University, with an emphasis on non-profits. She has over ten years of experience with a focus on mobilizing the church to love their neighbors well. As a member of church staff, she’s directed community centers, led worship, and helped to create systems and structures. When she’s not working, Keva enjoys growing in contemplative faith practices, being active and creative, and sitting in the sun.    Show Notes: The Welcoming Prayer (by Father Thomas Keating)  Welcome, welcome, welcome.  I welcome everything that comes to me today, because I know it's for my healing.  I welcome all thoughts, feelings, emotions, persons, situations, and conditions.  I let go of my desire for power and control.  I let go of my desire for affection, esteem, approval, and pleasure.  I let go of my desire for survival and security.  I let go of my desire to change any situation, condition, person or myself.  I open to the love and presence of God and God's action within. Amen.  The Justice God is Seeking by David Ruis https://amzn.to/3oiOjJJ  The Worship God is Seeking by David Ruis https://amzn.to/3oevFma

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam talks with Keva Green about accepting Jesus as a child and growing up in a musical home. Keva shares about her work with Restorative Justice ministries, keeping her heart buoyant while staying proximate to the people in her community, and creating a worship space that is both encompassing of the diversity of her church and also stretching. Finally, Keva shares what she's looking forward to, and some words for the broader Vineyard Worship community. Keva Green is a pastor on staff at the Evanston Vineyard. She was born and raised in Southern California. After receiving her B.A. in Black Studies and Women’s Studies, God connected her to a church where she learned to love the Bible, experienced deep community, and discovered God’s concern for those on the margins of society. Since then, Keva has been passionate about the church’s role in meeting the spiritual and material needs of those experiencing lack. She later earned her Master of Public Administration degree from Syracuse University, with an emphasis on non-profits. She has over ten years of experience with a focus on mobilizing the church to love their neighbors well. As a member of church staff, she’s directed community centers, led worship, and helped to create systems and structures. When she’s not working, Keva enjoys growing in contemplative faith practices, being active and creative, and sitting in the sun.   Show Notes: The Welcoming Prayer (by Father Thomas Keating)  Welcome, welcome, welcome.  I welcome everything that comes to me today, because I know it's for my healing.  I welcome all thoughts, feelings, emotions, persons, situations, and conditions.  I let go of my desire for power and control.  I let go of my desire for affection, esteem, approval, and pleasure.  I let go of my desire for survival and security.  I let go of my desire to change any situation, condition, person or myself.  I open to the love and presence of God and God's action within. Amen. The Justice God is Seeking by David Ruis <a href="https://amzn.to/3oiOjJJ" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://amzn.to/3oiOjJJ</a> The Worship God is Seeking by David Ruis <a href="https://amzn.to/3oevFma" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://amzn.to/3oevFma</a>

"The Fragrance Of Worship Is Justice" with Keva Green

Leah Morrison

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam chats with Leah Morrison about being a worship leader and a mother of 3 kids, including how she learned to work within the confines of her real life and some practical tips for pastors working with moms of young children. Leah also shares how motherhood has changed her worship leading.  Leah Morrison joined the staff of Vineyard North in Grand Rapids, MI in 2015 after several years as an ordained worship pastor with her previous church. Leah spent some of her growing up years in Russia as her family did missionary work with the Vineyard, and after moving back to the US attended Kendall College of Art &amp; Design. She and her husband are raising 3 awesome kiddos and have a passion for ministry in their neighborhood and a dream of doing work in the middle east.     Show Notes:  Leah's Instagram: @leah_morrison_creative

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam chats with Leah Morrison about being a worship leader and a mother of 3 kids, including how she learned to work within the confines of her real life and some practical tips for pastors working with moms of young children. Leah also shares how motherhood has changed her worship leading.  Leah Morrison joined the staff of Vineyard North in Grand Rapids, MI in 2015 after several years as an ordained worship pastor with her previous church. Leah spent some of her growing up years in Russia as her family did missionary work with the Vineyard, and after moving back to the US attended Kendall College of Art &amp; Design. She and her husband are raising 3 awesome kiddos and have a passion for ministry in their neighborhood and a dream of doing work in the middle east.   Show Notes:  Leah's Instagram: @leah_morrison_creative

Leading Worship Within The Reality Of Your Life with Leah Morrison

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam chats with us about the relentless nature of Sundays that just.keep.coming and shares some suggestions about how to think bigger than the weekly rhythm.

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam chats with us about the relentless nature of Sundays that just.keep.coming and shares some suggestions about how to think bigger than the weekly rhythm.

Thinking Bigger Than Sunday

Adam gathers with the Vineyard Worship crew to talk about Vineyard Worship Essentials, an online training opportunity! You can join a cohort or audit the program with your worship community or by yourself. Take a listen and share this episode with all the worship leaders in your life! Sign up now at: Vineyardworship.com/essentials

Adam gathers with the Vineyard Worship crew to talk about Vineyard Worship Essentials, an online training opportunity! You can join a cohort or audit the program with your worship community or by yourself. Take a listen and share this episode with all the worship leaders in your life! Sign up now at: <a href="http://Vineyardworship.com/essentials" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Vineyardworship.com/essentials</a>

Introducing Vineyard Worship Essentials

Thomas Lyons

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam chats with Thomas Lyons about the difference between a revival and revivalism, how revival has shaped American identity, and what the hope of the church is during ordinary seasons of life.  Thomas shares an academic perspective on historical outpourings, common precursors to revivals, and some Biblical study on the presence of God. Adam and Thomas also share some of their personal experiences of the Asbury Outpouring.   Thomas Lyons (PhD, Asbury Theological Seminary) is the interim Director of For-Credit Courses for Seminary Now  and Director of Library Services and Education Technology at Northern Seminary. He has served the Vineyard movement locally, nationally, and globally in a variety of ministries and capacities over the past 17 years. Thomas lives in the Lexington, KY area with his four children.  Show Notes:  Asbury University https://www.asbury.edu/outpouring/ 

In this episode of The Ferment, Adam chats with Thomas Lyons about the difference between a revival and revivalism, how revival has shaped American identity, and what the hope of the church is during ordinary seasons of life.  Thomas shares an academic perspective on historical outpourings, common precursors to revivals, and some Biblical study on the presence of God. Adam and Thomas also share some of their personal experiences of the Asbury Outpouring.  Thomas Lyons (PhD, Asbury Theological Seminary) is the interim Director of For-Credit Courses for <a href="https://seminarynow.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Seminary Now</a>  and Director of Library Services and Education Technology at <a href="https://seminary.edu/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Northern Seminary</a>. He has served the Vineyard movement locally, nationally, and globally in a variety of ministries and capacities over the past 17 years. Thomas lives in the Lexington, KY area with his four children. Show Notes:  Asbury University <a href="https://www.asbury.edu/outpouring/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.asbury.edu/outpouring/</a>

Asbury In Context - A Brief History Of Revival with Thomas Lyons

Welcome to the Ferment Podcast - Conversations about Worship and Transformation. In this wide ranging podcast our host Adam Russell sits down with thought leaders, creatives, entrepreneurs, and other innovators digging into their personal stories of spiritual transformation. Recent guests include John Mark McMillan, Daniel Grothe, World-renowed vocal coach "Mama Jan" Smith, James Duke, Carol Wimber-Wong, and many others.

This is one of my favorite Christian podcasts. While the focus is on worship, the discussions range much more broadly, and it is relevant to every believer. 

Whether you want to learn more about Vineyard style worship, or want to be inspired by the personal stories of the guests, Adam’s interviewing style gently digs deeper, to elicit the heart messages.

Inspiring, authentic, relatable

I love Terry’s heart for worshipping the Lord and training others. Awesome podcast!

Awesome!

The Ferment Podcast - Conversations About Worship And Transformation

Chris Lizotte

SEASON 2 PREMIERE!!  Chris Lizotte is a singer-songwriter and worship leader best known for his songs "Glory The King,” "I Love Your Ways,” and "I Will Trust You.” Born and raised in Orange County, CA, Chris has led worship for The National Youth Leaders Convention, Promise Keepers, and Campus Crusade, and his songs have been recorded by Kim Walker-Smith, Crystal Lewis, Vineyard Worship, and Maranatha! Music.   On this episode Chris shares his faith journey — from growing up Catholic to coming to faith through a physical healing — as well as his journey into music and leading worship.  Many prominent voices have spoken deeply and personally into Chris’s life and long road in worship ministry and mainstream music, including Chuck Smith, Kevin Prosch, John Wimber, and Eddie Espinosa. There is much to learn here.

SEASON 2 PREMIERE!! Chris Lizotte is a singer-songwriter and worship leader best known for his songs "Glory The King,” "I Love Your Ways,” and "I Will Trust You.” Born and raised in Orange County, CA, Chris has led worship for The National Youth Leaders Convention, Promise Keepers, and Campus Crusade, and his songs have been recorded by Kim Walker-Smith, Crystal Lewis, Vineyard Worship, and Maranatha! Music.  On this episode Chris shares his faith journey — from growing up Catholic to coming to faith through a physical healing — as well as his journey into music and leading worship.  Many prominent voices have spoken deeply and personally into Chris’s life and long road in worship ministry and mainstream music, including Chuck Smith, Kevin Prosch, John Wimber, and Eddie Espinosa. There is much to learn here.

Chris Lizotte - songwriter and worship leader - Simplicity, Hard Won Lessons, And Being The Same Person Everywhere You Go

Josh Baldwin

This week's guest is Josh Baldwin, worship leader and songwriter with Bethel Music.   On this week's episode, Josh recounts his childhood growing up the son of a worship pastor as well as his first worship team experience as a drummer at the age of 12.  Josh shares key insights into bringing our true selves to our worship leadership, and he and our host Adam Russell discuss Josh’s recent success as a songwriter with recent Dove-award nominations. There is also an in-depth conversation about Duke basketball and Josh's thoughts about the current NBA season. (Maybe we'll launch another podcast: Worship Leaders On Basketball).    Josh signed with Bethel Music in 2014 and moved to Redding, CA to join Bethel Church where he was featured on the Bethel Music collective release, Have It All (2016). He then released his first solo effort, The War Is Over, with the label in mid-2017 to critical acclaim, debuting in the top-three sector of the American and British Christian music charts.   As a worship leader, Josh enjoys creating space for people to feel seen, encouraged, and invited into intimacy with God where true peace and hope is found. Josh lives with his wife Sheila and their two children in Redding, CA, and continues to tour domestically and internationally.

This week's guest is Josh Baldwin, worship leader and songwriter with Bethel Music.   On this week's episode, Josh recounts his childhood growing up the son of a worship pastor as well as his first worship team experience as a drummer at the age of 12.  Josh shares key insights into bringing our true selves to our worship leadership, and he and our host Adam Russell discuss Josh’s recent success as a songwriter with recent Dove-award nominations. There is also an in-depth conversation about Duke basketball and Josh's thoughts about the current NBA season. (Maybe we'll launch another podcast: Worship Leaders On Basketball).    Josh signed with Bethel Music in 2014 and moved to Redding, CA to join Bethel Church where he was featured on the Bethel Music collective release, Have It All (2016). He then released his first solo effort, The War Is Over, with the label in mid-2017 to critical acclaim, debuting in the top-three sector of the American and British Christian music charts.   As a worship leader, Josh enjoys creating space for people to feel seen, encouraged, and invited into intimacy with God where true peace and hope is found. Josh lives with his wife Sheila and their two children in Redding, CA, and continues to tour domestically and internationally.

Josh Baldwin - worship leader and songwriter with Bethel Music - The Gift Of Bethel Music, Bringing Our True Selves, And Josh’s Thoughts On Basketball

Jared Boyd

Jared Boyd is a pastor, spiritual director, and founder of The Order of Sustainable Faith, a missional monastic expression of the Vineyard Church.  In addition to his role in Sustainable Faith, Jared is Pastor at Franklinton Abbey and is part of The Society of Vineyard Scholars.    In this rich episode, Jared and Adam dig deep into the topic of discernment and explore the benefits of spiritual direction and a contemplative life. Jared is a deep well and this episode is overflowing with practical wisdom for the long-term life of faith.    For more information about The Order of Sustainable Faith visit: https://www.sustainablefaith.com/

Jared Boyd is a pastor, spiritual director, and founder of The Order of Sustainable Faith, a missional monastic expression of the Vineyard Church.  In addition to his role in Sustainable Faith, Jared is Pastor at <a href="http://franklintonabbey.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">Franklinton Abbe</a>y and is part of The Society of Vineyard Scholars.    In this rich episode, Jared and Adam dig deep into the topic of discernment and explore the benefits of spiritual direction and a contemplative life. Jared is a deep well and this episode is overflowing with practical wisdom for the long-term life of faith.    For more information about The Order of Sustainable Faith visit: <a href="https://www.sustainablefaith.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.sustainablefaith.com/</a>

Jared Boyd - pastor, spiritual director, and founder of The Order of Sustainable Faith - Discernment, Spiritual Direction, And Playing The Long Game

Matt Nall

Matt Nall is a drummer, producer, husband, and father of two. In addition to drumming for over 20 years in both live and studio settings, Matt is a key part of the Campbellsville Vineyard worship community.  He also serves as technical director for Campbellsville University’s theater department.   On this practical episode, Matt and our host Adam Russell dive into the vital role of the drummer in our worship settings, unpacking years of hard-won wisdom on a myriad of topics that will benefit every member of your worship team!

Matt Nall - drummer, producer, and worship leader - It All Begins With Listening - Practical Wisdom From The Drummer's Chair

Carol Wimber-Wong

Carol Wimber-Wong was an early Vineyard pioneer and, along with her late husband John Wimber, helped birth the Vineyard Movement. Carol has been closely involved in the development of the Vineyard for over 40 years.   In this broad conversation, Adam and Carol discuss her journey of faith and the deep impact the Quakers had on both her and John and the foundation of the Vineyard Movement. They then dive into her perspective on the history of the Vineyard and her dreams for the future Church.

Carol Wimber-Wong - Co-Founder of the Vineyard Movement - Everyone Needs To Be In Their Place For The Sake Of The Body Of Christ

Sam Yoder

Carl Sagan

Sam Yoder is a chiropractor in Campbellsville, KY and the author of the modern Vineyard hymns “All Things Rise,” “Wonderful,” and the upcoming Vineyard Worship single,  “Jesus Beautiful.”   In this wide-ranging conversation, Sam shares about his journey - from being raised Old Order Amish to discovering the music of Bob Dylan and the writing of Carl Sagan.  Sam and Adam cover various topics including the experience of the immigrant and outsider in society, the songwriting genius of Dylan, and Sam's deep love of space and the universe that inspired his upcoming album, The Reaches, featuring songs about black holes and other surprises.    Sam is an inspiring and curious person who pursues his creative life with ferocity. This is a fascinating conversation you won't want to miss.

Sam Yoder is a chiropractor in Campbellsville, KY and the author of the modern Vineyard hymns “All Things Rise,” “Wonderful,” and the upcoming Vineyard Worship single,  “Jesus Beautiful.”   In this wide-ranging conversation, Sam shares about his journey - from being raised Old Order Amish to discovering the music of Bob Dylan and the writing of Carl Sagan.  Sam and Adam cover various topics including the experience of the immigrant and outsider in society, the songwriting genius of Dylan, and Sam's deep love of space and the universe that inspired his upcoming album, The Reaches, featuring songs about black holes and other surprises.    Sam is an inspiring and curious person who pursues his creative life with ferocity. This is a fascinating conversation you won't want to miss.

Sam Yoder - ex-Old Order Amish songwriting chiropractor and author of All Things Rise - Jesus, Bob Dylan, and Carl Sagan

Audrey Assad

Audrey Assad is a recording artist, songwriter, and record producer from Nashville, TN. Her debut album, The House You’re Building, became the 2010 Christian Album of the Year on Amazon and the Christian Breakthrough Album of the Year on iTunes. That success led to collaborations and tours with Chris Tomlin, Tenth Avenue North, and Jars of Clay.    In this episode, Audrey recounts her journey through multiple Christian denominations before landing in the Catholic Church. The conversation continues by diving deep into Audrey's creative process. She and Adam also discuss the under-representation of women in the production world as well as the over-emphasis on appearance in the Christian music industry.

Audrey Assad is a recording artist, songwriter, and record producer from Nashville, TN. Her debut album, The House You’re Building, became the 2010 Christian Album of the Year on Amazon and the Christian Breakthrough Album of the Year on iTunes. That success led to collaborations and tours with Chris Tomlin, Tenth Avenue North, and Jars of Clay.    In this episode, Audrey recounts her journey through multiple Christian denominations before landing in the Catholic Church. The conversation continues by diving deep into Audrey's creative process. She and Adam also discuss the under-representation of women in the production world as well as the over-emphasis on appearance in the Christian music industry.

Audrey Assad - recording artist, songwriter, and record producer - Inspiration is Communal and Collaborative

Samuel Lane

Samuel Lane is a worship leader, songwriter, and recording artist, and is currently the Creative Director at The Vineyard Church in St. Albans in the Greater London area. For over twenty years, he has worked to refine his songwriting, exploring musicality and faith, pouring his life into crafting songs that draw people closer to God.   Lane has written and recorded 40 songs with Vineyard Worship, and his songs have been covered by various artists including Jesus Culture. In 2013, Samuel released his debut solo album, The Fire, which Christianity Magazine called “incredible - there hasn't been an album that has captured my attention in such a way for a long time.”   In 2018, Lane released  The Difference. “Maybe it’s the stripped-down urgency of Lane’s voice, the album’s eclectic sonic treasure-chest or simply the B3 humming throughout, but whatever it is, it’s enough to make you rethink today’s neat-and-tidy Christian music categories” (Pandora Blog, Curators’Choice).   In this candid episode, Sam shares his journey into worship leading and songwriting as the son of Vineyard UK pioneers Chris and Fliss Lane. From the depths of a life given to the worship of God and the service of His people, Sam brings a treasure of insights to sustain and inspire all of us who serve weekly in the trenches of local church worship ministry.

Samuel Lane is a worship leader, songwriter, and recording artist, and is currently the Creative Director at The Vineyard Church in St. Albans in the Greater London area. For over twenty years, he has worked to refine his songwriting, exploring musicality and faith, pouring his life into crafting songs that draw people closer to God.   Lane has written and recorded 40 songs with Vineyard Worship, and his songs have been covered by various artists including Jesus Culture. In 2013, Samuel released his debut solo album, <a href="https://www.samuellane.com/thefire" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">The Fire</a>, which Christianity Magazine called “incredible - there hasn't been an album that has captured my attention in such a way for a long time.”   In 2018, Lane released  <a href="https://www.samuellane.com/thedifference" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">The Difference</a>. “Maybe it’s the stripped-down urgency of Lane’s voice, the album’s eclectic sonic treasure-chest or simply the B3 humming throughout, but whatever it is, it’s enough to make you rethink today’s neat-and-tidy Christian music categories” (Pandora Blog, Curators’Choice).   In this candid episode, Sam shares his journey into worship leading and songwriting as the son of Vineyard UK pioneers Chris and Fliss Lane. From the depths of a life given to the worship of God and the service of His people, Sam brings a treasure of insights to sustain and inspire all of us who serve weekly in the trenches of local church worship ministry.

Samuel Lane - worship leader and songwriter (Saved, Beautiful) - Chasing The Presence Of God For Ourselves And Others

Mike O’Brien is a worship pastor, speaker, record producer, and songwriter. With over 25 years experience in the trenches of local church worship ministry and serving in multiple facets of worship across different denominations, Mike is a trusted voice in helping musicians “more fully worship God with their instruments and lives.”     Mike currently serves as the Director for the Vineyard School of Worship and lives in Atlanta, GA with his wife Susan and their son Ezekiel.    In this wide-ranging and very practical episode, our host Adam Russell sits down with Mike to tackle the most common issues churches face in building healthy worship ministries.

Mike O’Brien - worship pastor, songwriter, and director of the Vineyard School of Worship - The Eucharist Is A Place That Says “Hey, You’re Not Alone"

Heather Russell

The Ferment continues its "conversations" series with Adam &amp; Heather Russell. On this episode, they address the topic of friendship in all its various shapes and sizes, exploring the reality that even Jesus surrounded himself with a group of friends during his time on earth.

The Ferment continues its "conversations" series with Adam &amp; Heather Russell. On this episode, they address the topic of friendship in all its various shapes and sizes, exploring the reality that even Jesus surrounded himself with a group of friends during his time on earth.

Jesus Had Friends, We Need Them Too - The Importance of Friendship with Adam and Heather Russell

Gabriel Wilson

Gabriel Wilson is a record producer, songwriter, and recording artist based in the greater Portland, Oregon area. His most-recent album productions include the debut album Touching Heaven from Influence Music as well as multiple chart-topping #1 BillBoard Albums such as Mercury &amp; Lightning (John Mark McMillan), Every Nation (Lindy Conant &amp; the Circuit Riders) and Bethel Music’s Tides &amp; You Make Me Brave. Wilson has also co-written many songs including “Spirit Lead Me” from Michael Ketterer, “Nothing Stands Between Us” and “No Country” from John Mark McMillan, “Forever” from Kari Jobe, “Letting Go” from Steffany Gretzinger, and ASCAP Award-winning song “Ever Be” from Bethel.    Wilson co-owns and operates Feng Sway Studio in the Pacific Northwest and is a co-founder of RMA, an “anti”-label bent on championing “Equity for Artists” by helping artists navigate the brave new world of the modern music industry. He is also a WorshipU online instructor, a teacher at various songwriting and worship conferences globally, and a songwriting mentor for writers from all over the world via Skype — helping writers break through blocks and sharpen their skills.   On this episode Adam and Gabriel delve into Gabriel's unique story and what it means to develop as a creative person in the Kingdom of God.

Gabriel Wilson is a record producer, songwriter, and recording artist based in the greater Portland, Oregon area. His most-recent album productions include the debut album Touching Heaven from Influence Music as well as multiple chart-topping #1 BillBoard Albums such as Mercury &amp; Lightning (John Mark McMillan), Every Nation (Lindy Conant &amp; the Circuit Riders) and Bethel Music’s Tides &amp; You Make Me Brave. Wilson has also co-written many songs including “Spirit Lead Me” from Michael Ketterer, “Nothing Stands Between Us” and “No Country” from John Mark McMillan, “Forever” from Kari Jobe, “Letting Go” from Steffany Gretzinger, and ASCAP Award-winning song “Ever Be” from Bethel.    Wilson co-owns and operates Feng Sway Studio in the Pacific Northwest and is a co-founder of RMA, an “anti”-label bent on championing “Equity for Artists” by helping artists navigate the brave new world of the modern music industry. He is also a WorshipU online instructor, a teacher at various songwriting and worship conferences globally, and a songwriting mentor for writers from all over the world via Skype — helping writers break through blocks and sharpen their skills.   On this episode Adam and Gabriel delve into Gabriel's unique story and what it means to develop as a creative person in the Kingdom of God.

Gabriel Wilson - record producer and creative catalyst - Unlocking Creativity Is Divine Work

This special edition of the podcast is entitled “So You've Turned 35” featuring a candid and helpful conversation between our host Adam Russell and his wife Heather about this overlooked stage of life.    This is an important episode discuss both the pitfalls and opportunities we face when life is at its fullest. Whether you are in this life stage, not quite yet, or even beyond it, there is gold in pastoral wisdom shared in this episode.

Adam and Heather Russell - So You've Turned 35 - There's An Invitation To Growth In Every Stage Of Life

John Elmer

John Elmer is a church planter and lead pastor of the Vineyard Church in Syracuse, NY. He and his wife Gwen started the church in 1991 with six people in their living room, and that church has prospered into a multi-site church with four locations and 1500+ in attendance across ten services.  John also oversees the northeast region of Vineyard churches in the US.   On this episode, John and our host Adam Russell discuss John’s journey of faith — from growing up Catholic to having a dramatic encounter with the Lord in high school, to moving to California where he crossed paths with the Vineyard.  John and Adam delve into the qualities of good leadership, the importance of risk-taking with the freedom to fail, and multi-cultural ministry.

John Elmer - church planter and pastor of the Syracuse Vineyard - If The Lord Calls You, It's Worth It Even If You Fail

Brittany Kim

Dr. Brittany Kim is an Old Testament scholar, adjunct professor, and spiritual director-in-training based in Chicago, IL. She has taught at Roberts Wesleyan College, Northeastern Seminary, and Bethel Seminary, and is the author of Lengthen Your Tent-Cords: The Metaphorical World of Israel's Household in the Book of Isaiah. Brittany is also the wife of Ferment podcast guest, Ted Kim.   In this episode, Brittany and Adam dig into the Old Testament bringing out both specific and "meta" insights extremely useful for the modern worship leader. Brittany also highlights the frequency and importance of the theme of lament, particularly in the Psalms.   This is an important conversation for worship leaders and songwriters seeking more biblical expressions of worship in their personal and congregational lives.

Dr. Brittany Kim is an Old Testament scholar, adjunct professor, and spiritual director-in-training based in Chicago, IL. She has taught at Roberts Wesleyan College, Northeastern Seminary, and Bethel Seminary, and is the author of Lengthen Your Tent-Cords: The Metaphorical World of Israel's Household in the Book of Isaiah. Brittany is also the wife of Ferment podcast guest, Ted Kim.   In this episode, Brittany and Adam dig into the Old Testament bringing out both specific and "meta" insights extremely useful for the modern worship leader. Brittany also highlights the frequency and importance of the theme of lament, particularly in the Psalms.  This is an important conversation for worship leaders and songwriters seeking more biblical expressions of worship in their personal and congregational lives.

Dr. Brittany Kim - Old Testament scholar and adjunct professor - What Do We Do With The Old Testament

Caleb Maskell

Our host Adam Russell sits down with Dr. Caleb Maskell, a church historian, worship pastor, and return Ferment podcast guest.  On this week's episode, they discuss the ongoing impact of the renewal of the mid-1990s, specifically the "Toronto Blessing,” and share personal stories from their own visits to the Toronto Airport Vineyard (now the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship).    Dr. Maskell leads the Society of Vineyard Scholars and is the Worship Pastor at Blue Route Vineyard Community Church outside Philadelphia, PA. He holds a PhD from Princeton University, focusing on the history of American Christianity, and has taught at Princeton Theological Seminary and Fordham University. Dr. Maskell is passionate about developing leaders and institutions that will help to produce a healthy, courageous, and hospitable future for the Church in the 21st century.   In 2007, he co-planted Elm City Vineyard Church in New Haven, CT with his wife Kathy, who is active in social justice and worked for six years as the U.S. Advocacy Director for Love146 — an international human rights organization working to end child trafficking and exploitation.  They currently live in Media, PA with their son Josiah and daughter Emmanuelle.

The Lasting Impact of the Toronto Blessing - Unpacking The Mid-90’s Renewal with Dr. Caleb Maskell

Jim Zartman

Jim Zartman is a musician, producer, and coach.  As a songwriter and musician, he has created music for films, commercials, podcasts, and more.  As a producer, he is the owner and operator of Talkie Records Studio in Lynn, MA and co-founder of “The Art of Growth – Enneagram Panels,” which is one of the world’s most-popular Enneagram podcasts.  In addition to the podcast, Jim provides typing and coaching to individuals and organizations and, alongside his wife Abby,  coaches couples in how to design their relationships to reflect their values.   On this episode, Adam and Jim unpack the Enneagram, the popular personality-typing tool. Jim provides helpful real-life examples of ways the Enneagram can be used for personal growth and to promote health in relationships. This is an informative episode for both Enneagram enthusiasts and those unfamiliar with this powerful tool.

Jim Zartman - producer and co-founder of The Art of Growth podcast - Diving Into The Enneagram

John Kim

John Kim is an Investor, entrepreneur, and co-pastor of The166, a Vineyard church plant in the Hell's Kitchen section of midtown Manhattan, NY.    After graduating from Harvard in 1995, John received his Ph.D. in Economics from MIT in 1998.  John joined MSD Capital in 1998, serving as partner from 2001 to 2008. He then founded the Karamaan Group —a long-term investing firm that takes ownership interest in public and private companies.   John resides in Manhattan with his wife, Kara, and son, Samuel. The Kims are one of three founding families of Coram Deo: A House of Worship, Prayer and Entrepreneurship, located in midtown Manhattan.    In this unique episode, John shares his journey of being a Jesus follower in the fast-paced NYC business world, surviving with his faith intact and actually finding his God-breathed vocation in the midst of it. This is a deeply encouraging conversation for anyone seeking to walk out their calling, whether inside or outside the walls of the Church.

John Kim - investor, entrepreneur, and co-pastor of The166 - It's  A Wonderful Thing To Be Called Into Business

Steve Cuss

Steve Cuss is the author of the influential book, "Managing Leadership Anxiety: Yours and Theirs” (published by NEXT Leadership Network), and serves as lead pastor at Discover Christian Church in Broomfield, CO.    On today's episode, Steve and Adam discuss chronic anxiety and its effect on our personal lives, our teams, and the society in which we live. This is an important conversation, especially in the current global pandemic.   From Steve's website:   I love leaders, and I see how much pressure they carry. My particular concern is to bring relief by equipping them with tools for individual and team health. I especially enjoy helping leaders break long stuck patterns in themselves and their organizations.   I cut my teeth on leadership anxiety when I served as a chaplain at a level one trauma hospital. The hospital sent us into every conceivable human experience and we had nothing but our wits and the presence of God to get us through. In that baptism of fire, I learned how to pay attention to what was going on under the surface of my own life, and also the dynamics between family members. One of the supervisors was Murray Bowen’s student, so I was steeped in family systems theory and then later studied it and cybernetics more formally in graduate school. My unique experience and training deepened my leadership capacity to manage anxiety and notice it in groups. I have sixteen hundred hours of supervised ministry in Clinical Pastoral Education. I hold a Master of Divinity from Emmanuel Christian Seminary where I focused on Hebrew Scriptures and Family Systems. My thesis was based on the Hebrew Scriptures’ dignity laws in Leviticus and Exodus and how a suburban church can engage local and global poverty through the lens of reciprocity and dignity rather than charity.    Since 2005, I have served as Lead Pastor of Discovery Christian Church in Broomfield, Colorado, an innovative and entrepreneurial church that has grown from 150 to more than 1000 in weekly attendance. The church intentionally welcomes spiritual seekers and skeptics and is passionate about partnerships that break the local and global poverty cycle. I have also served at a mega church in Las Vegas, on a ranch for struggling teens, and as a youth minister in the Appalachian region.   I was privileged to grow up in Perth, Western Australia, in an adventurous family of origin. After moving to the United States for theological study, I married Lisa and together we have two sons and a daughter, in whom I take great delight. When I am not working, you can find me laughing with my family, knee-deep in a trout stream, or trying a guitar I cannot afford at a local music store.

Steve Cuss - pastor and author of Managing Leadership Anxiety Yours & Theirs - Problems Aren’t Just Inside Us, They’re Between Us - Understand The Nature Of Chronic Anxiety

Cody Carnes

Cody Carnes is a worship leader and songwriter whose recent collaboration with his wife, Kari Jobe Carnes, and Elevation Worship resulted in the timely song "The Blessing."  Cody's new album Run To The Father released on March 13, 2020, just as the US was moving into quarantine.    On this episode, Adam and Cody dive into the idea of "keeping your antenna up" as a songwriter, listening for the voice of the Lord and what He is speaking to the Church today. They explore the back story of "The Blessing,” an example of God's hand at work through a simple song that found its way into the Church at large on the cusp of a global pandemic.      Cody's bio: Cody Carnes is a worship leader and songwriter whose passion is to create a meeting place for God and people with music. He spends most of his time traveling and leading worship with his wife, Kari Jobe Carnes. The couple has co-written numerous songs together, including “Closer To Your Heart,” “The Garden” and “Lover Of My Soul” from her album The Garden, and “Let The Heavens Open” from her album Majestic.

Cody Carnes is a worship leader and songwriter whose recent collaboration with his wife, Kari Jobe Carnes, and Elevation Worship resulted in the timely song "The Blessing."  Cody's new album Run To The Father released on March 13, 2020, just as the US was moving into quarantine.    On this episode, Adam and Cody dive into the idea of "keeping your antenna up" as a songwriter, listening for the voice of the Lord and what He is speaking to the Church today. They explore the back story of "The Blessing,” an example of God's hand at work through a simple song that found its way into the Church at large on the cusp of a global pandemic.      Cody's bio: Cody Carnes is a worship leader and songwriter whose passion is to create a meeting place for God and people with music. He spends most of his time traveling and leading worship with his wife, Kari Jobe Carnes. The couple has co-written numerous songs together, including “Closer To Your Heart,” “The Garden” and “Lover Of My Soul” from her album The Garden, and “Let The Heavens Open” from her album Majestic.

Cody Carnes - worship leader and songwriter - Keeping Your Antenna Up As A Songwriter - Behind The Song “The Blessing”

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