Many of us got comfortable not going to church through the pandemic and we’re slowly finding our way back. The Bible tells us we need other Christians and we’re missing something if we don’t gather together to hear God’s Word. But our relationship to church can still be complicated. Jackie and Preston’s conversation today covers topics like worship style preferences, doctrinally sound preaching and discipleship, the pressure that local pastors face because of social media, and the topic of church hurt.  To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Many of us got comfortable not going to church through the pandemic and we’re slowly finding our way back. The Bible tells us we need other Christians and we’re missing something if we don’t gather together to hear God’s Word. But our relationship to church can still be complicated. Jackie and Preston’s conversation today covers topics like worship style preferences, doctrinally sound preaching and discipleship, the pressure that local pastors face because of social media, and the topic of church hurt.  To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

A Random Conversation About Church

A few years back, the Perrys started a series on the podcast called “Teach the Text,” and that’s the format of today’s new episode. Jackie teaches through Genesis 16 – the story of Hagar, Abram, and Sarai – reflecting on the unique questions that only a woman might think to ask of this text. Jackie and Preston discuss impatience, idolatry, and misplaced hope, at the end pointing us to the God who sees us in our suffering.Check out other “Teach the Text” episodes: JudeJohn 9Get your tickets to a Glory event this fall. Shop BOLD Apparel at BOLDApparel.Shop.To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

A few years back, the Perrys started a series on the podcast called “Teach the Text,” and that’s the format of today’s new episode. Jackie teaches through Genesis 16 – the story of Hagar, Abram, and Sarai – reflecting on the unique questions that only a woman might think to ask of this text. Jackie and Preston discuss impatience, idolatry, and misplaced hope, at the end pointing us to the God who sees us in our suffering.Check out other “Teach the Text” episodes: <ul><li><a href="https://pod.link/1458672189/episode/f131b07d3b3b26686b50656c8d1cabe3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jude</a></li><li><a href="https://pod.link/1458672189/episode/3c0521d5eee562ec1628e3ae0bd9c9ed" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">John 9</a></li></ul>Get your tickets to a <a href="https://jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Glory event</a> this fall. Shop BOLD Apparel at <a href="https://boldapparel.shop/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">BOLDApparel.Shop</a>.To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Infertility, Suffering, and Hagar

Jackie and Preston revisit a conversation had during the very first season of the podcast five years ago – how to argue well. Confrontation is a necessary function of a healthy relationship and it can create more intimacy. But how do we honor God and one another as we move through conflict? The Perrys have some thoughts from what they’ve learned over the years.Shop BOLD Apparel at BOLDApparel.Shop.To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Jackie and Preston revisit a conversation had during the very first season of the podcast five years ago – how to argue well. Confrontation is a necessary function of a healthy relationship and it can create more intimacy. But how do we honor God and one another as we move through conflict? The Perrys have some thoughts from what they’ve learned over the years.Shop BOLD Apparel at <a href="https://boldapparel.shop/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">BOLDApparel.Shop</a>.To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Conflict, Confrontation, and Arguing Well

Why does it matter that we fully understand the deity of Jesus? Because if we don’t, we run the risk of worshiping the wrong God. Preston and Jackie walk through the apologetics of this important element of the Christian faith, examining scripture people often point to when questioning if Jesus is God. Check out the ﻿﻿Greek/English Interlinear New Testament here.To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Why does it matter that we fully understand the deity of Jesus? Because if we don’t, we run the risk of worshiping the wrong God. Preston and Jackie walk through the apologetics of this important element of the Christian faith, examining scripture people often point to when questioning if Jesus is God. Check out the ﻿﻿Greek/English Interlinear New Testament <a href="https://amzn.to/3rtNkYQ" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Is Jesus God?

Any time we attempt to be faithful to the gospel and build anything of eternal value, there will be opposition. Listen in as Preston and Jackie share their experience with temptation, fear, and victory in gospel ministry.To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Any time we attempt to be faithful to the gospel and build anything of eternal value, there will be opposition. Listen in as Preston and Jackie share their experience with temptation, fear, and victory in gospel ministry.To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

The Warfare of Ministry

We're kicking off Season Six with our brother, Ezekiel Azonwu. Listen in as Ezekiel and Preston give us a sneak peek of what to expect on their upcoming We Need To Talk Tour. Culture discourages men from being in community, and many men are confused about their call and spiritual giftedness. But guys are crying out for discipleship and voices in close proximity to them that will build them up. Let’s talk about it.Connect with Ezekiel on Instagram at @wordsbyezekiel, and get your tickets for the tour at weneed2talktour.com.To support our work, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

We're kicking off Season Six with our brother, Ezekiel Azonwu. Listen in as Ezekiel and Preston give us a sneak peek of what to expect on their upcoming <a href="https://www.weneed2talktour.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">We Need To Talk Tour</a>. Culture discourages men from being in community, and many men are confused about their call and spiritual giftedness. But guys are crying out for discipleship and voices in close proximity to them that will build them up. Let’s talk about it.Connect with Ezekiel on Instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wordsbyezekiel/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@wordsbyezekiel</a>, and get your tickets for the tour at <a href="https://www.weneed2talktour.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">weneed2talktour.com</a>.To support our work, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Men, Marriage, Sex, and Kevin Samuels

Our Patreon community had questions. We’ve got answers. In this season 5 finale, you get to listen in as we unpack them one by one. To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Our Patreon community had questions. We’ve got answers. In this season 5 finale, you get to listen in as we unpack them one by one. To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Mormonism, Homosexuality, Parenting Tips & More

This one's about Kanye and how Christians can counter culture to help wake up Mr. West.Previous Episode Reference: The Inhumanity of Celebrity (Season 5: Episode 3)To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

This one's about Kanye and how Christians can counter culture to help wake up Mr. West.Previous Episode Reference: The Inhumanity of Celebrity (Season 5: Episode 3)To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Questions That Need Answers: Kanye West and Mental Health

Ever been intimidated by or skeptical about homeownership and/or real estate investing? Our friend Erika B. is the woman you need to know. We invited her to join us for a discussion about building generational wealth absent of greed, wisdom for first time homebuyers, and the two most common things people lack that block them from unpacking the fullness of homeownership and real estate investing.Learn more about Erika by following her on Instagram at www.instagram.com/erikabrowninvestor/To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Ever been intimidated by or skeptical about homeownership and/or real estate investing? Our friend Erika B. is the woman you need to know. We invited her to join us for a discussion about building generational wealth absent of greed, wisdom for first time homebuyers, and the two most common things people lack that block them from unpacking the fullness of homeownership and real estate investing.Learn more about Erika by following her on Instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/erikabrowninvestor/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/erikabrowninvestor/</a>To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Homeownership Tips, Generational Wealth and Resisting Greed

Politics. It’s how people become dehumanized in the sight of the “free” and the hearts of the “brave.” In this episode, we chat with our friend, Justin Giboney of The And Campaign, about identity idolatry in politics, the Gospel-focused roles Christians should play in politics, and three components necessary to truly love our neighbors, regardless of their political affiliation. For more information on The And Campaign, visit https://andcampaign.org/To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Politics. It’s how people become dehumanized in the sight of the “free” and the hearts of the “brave.” In this episode, we chat with our friend, Justin Giboney of The And Campaign, about identity idolatry in politics, the Gospel-focused roles Christians should play in politics, and three components necessary to truly love our neighbors, regardless of their political affiliation. For more information on The And Campaign, visit <a href="https://andcampaign.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://andcampaign.org/</a>To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Jesus and Politics, Wokeness and Other Stuff

With The Perrys is a podcast with a whole lot of truth given in a short amount of time. Preston Perry and Jackie Hill Perry will bring their humor, honesty, and insight into conversations on everything from relationships, theology, politics, race, and parenting.

Friends. How many of us have them? Better question: how many of us have the kind of friendships that can weather the storms of life and survive? Jackie shares the one thing that trumps everything in her deep, intimate friendships and Preston shares wisdom on cultivating healthy friendships after ending toxic ones.To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Friends. How many of us have them? Better question: how many of us have the kind of friendships that can weather the storms of life and survive? Jackie shares the one thing that trumps everything in her deep, intimate friendships and Preston shares wisdom on cultivating healthy friendships after ending toxic ones.To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

So, About Friends

Our friendship with Caresse has been . . . complicated. She joins us for this episode as we chat about her deconstruction journey, her exploration of queer theology, and how she experienced the transformative power and love of Jesus while on the brink of suicide.To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Our friendship with Caresse has been . . . complicated. She joins us for this episode as we chat about her deconstruction journey, her exploration of queer theology, and how she experienced the transformative power and love of Jesus while on the brink of suicide.To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

When Deconstruction Ends as a Miracle: A Testimony

Whether you believe in it or not, every believer engages in spiritual warfare. Temptation is the enemy’s way of joining forces with sin in an attempt to destroy us. In this episode, we discuss our personal experiences with temptation post-salvation, encounters with God that changed our perspectives on spiritual warfare, and the role of faith in the battle against temptation. To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Whether you believe in it or not, every believer engages in spiritual warfare. Temptation is the enemy’s way of joining forces with sin in an attempt to destroy us. In this episode, we discuss our personal experiences with temptation post-salvation, encounters with God that changed our perspectives on spiritual warfare, and the role of faith in the battle against temptation. To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Fighting Temptations with Spiritual Warfare

Ask any healthy couple and they’ll tell you that communication is key for a strong relationship. The same goes for your relationship with God, which is why prayer is essential. In this episode, we’re chatting about the enemy of prayer, why prayer feels inconvenient, and how we can suck less at it.To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Ask any healthy couple and they’ll tell you that communication is key for a strong relationship. The same goes for your relationship with God, which is why prayer is essential. In this episode, we’re chatting about the enemy of prayer, why prayer feels inconvenient, and how we can suck less at it.To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Prayer: The Discipline We All Suck At

At the root of anxiety is one tiny word that has the power to suck joy and contentment out of saints and aints alike—fear. Specifically, fear of what we cannot control. We examine why Adam and Eve lacked anxiety in the Garden and what we can gain from them to lead less anxious lives. Book Reference: The Cry of the Soul by Dan Allender and Tremper LongmanTo support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

At the root of anxiety is one tiny word that has the power to suck joy and contentment out of saints and aints alike—fear. Specifically, fear of what we cannot control. We examine why Adam and Eve lacked anxiety in the Garden and what we can gain from them to lead less anxious lives. Book Reference: <a href="https://a.co/d/fCE0E93" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Cry of the Soul by Dan Allender and Tremper Longman</a>To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Fear of Death, Social Anxiety, and Other Angsty Things

8 balls, tube socks, and rocks—OH MY! Jackie recounts stressful (and somewhat traumatic) moments from her life before Christ that bring the Perrys to the point of uncontrollable (happy) tears.Book Reference: Gay Girl, Good God by Jackie Hill Perry To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

8 balls, tube socks, and rocks—OH MY! Jackie recounts stressful (and somewhat traumatic) moments from her life before Christ that bring the Perrys to the point of uncontrollable (happy) tears.Book Reference: <a href="https://amzn.to/3CXWuyJ" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Gay Girl, Good God</a> by Jackie Hill Perry To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Storytime with Jackie

The phenomenon of celebrity is quite…strange. Jackie talks about the pressure of maintaining a facade when notoriety places her in uncomfortable situations, and Preston advocates for a “hierarchy of opinions” to keep us all from becoming puppets. We also explore how celebrity culture affects the local church and its leaders.Previous Episode Reference: Fame: Christian Celebrity Culture (Season 3: Episode 5)Book Reference: Illusions of Immortality: A Psychology of Fame and Celebrity by David Giles Book Reference: The Great Divorce by C.S. LewisBook Reference: When Narcissism Comes to Church by Chuck DeGroatPodcast Reference: The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill by Christianity TodayTo support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

The phenomenon of celebrity is quite…strange. Jackie talks about the pressure of maintaining a facade when notoriety places her in uncomfortable situations, and Preston advocates for a “hierarchy of opinions” to keep us all from becoming puppets. We also explore how celebrity culture affects the local church and its leaders.Previous Episode Reference: Fame: Christian Celebrity Culture (Season 3: Episode 5)Book Reference: <a href="https://amzn.to/3DnknBg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Illusions of Immortality: A Psychology of Fame and Celebrity</a> by David Giles Book Reference: <a href="https://amzn.to/3TPZFiC" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Great Divorce</a> by C.S. LewisBook Reference: <a href="https://amzn.to/3TwdWRT" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">When Narcissism Comes to Church</a> by Chuck DeGroatPodcast Reference: <a href="https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/rise-and-fall-of-mars-hill/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill</a> by Christianity TodayTo support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

The Inhumanity of Celebrity

Does running his bath water, baking him cookies, and rubbing his back equate to submission? The short answer? Nah. In this episode, we’re talking about how the purity of submission is displayed during the inconveniences of marriage and how true submission is a test of a wife’s trust—in God and in her husband. Previous Episode Reference: When Your Man is Intimidated by Your Gifts (Season 2: Episode 1)Book Reference: Holier Than Thou by Jackie Hill PerryTo support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Does running his bath water, baking him cookies, and rubbing his back equate to submission? The short answer? Nah. In this episode, we’re talking about how the purity of submission is displayed during the inconveniences of marriage and how true submission is a test of a wife’s trust—in God and in her husband. Previous Episode Reference: When Your Man is Intimidated by Your Gifts (Season 2: Episode 1)Book Reference: <a href="https://amzn.to/3z9Wavz" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Holier Than Thou</a> by Jackie Hill PerryTo support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Let's Talk Submission: A Conversation (Part 2)

Let’s be clear— headship and dominance are not the same thing. Christ-like headship requires two things that may be difficult for some husbands: sacrifice and vulnerability. We chat about what real headship is, what it isn’t, and why it can be scary. To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Let’s be clear— headship and dominance are not the same thing. Christ-like headship requires two things that may be difficult for some husbands: sacrifice and vulnerability. We chat about what real headship is, what it isn’t, and why it can be scary. To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Let's Talk Headship: A Conversation (Part 1)

To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com 

To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Sage, Witchcraft, and Discipleship (Patreon Q&A)

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With The Perrys

We're introducing a new series to 30 Minutes with The Perry's titled "Teach The Text". During Teach The Text, either Jackie or Preston will walk through a bible passage that they're currently studying. On this first episode of "Teach The Text", Jackie will walk through the book of Jude.  To get a copy of Jackie's bible study on Jude, go www.lifeway.com/jude www. jackiehillperry.com www.prestonnperry.com www.withtheperrys.com 

We're introducing a new series to 30 Minutes with The Perry's titled "Teach The Text". During Teach The Text, either Jackie or Preston will walk through a bible passage that they're currently studying. On this first episode of "Teach The Text", Jackie will walk through the book of Jude.  To get a copy of Jackie's bible study on Jude, go <a href="http://www.lifeway.com/jude" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.lifeway.com/jude</a> www. <a href="http://jackiehillperry.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">jackiehillperry.com</a> <a href="http://www.prestonnperry.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.prestonnperry.com</a> <a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a>

Teach The Text : Jude

Jackie never considered herself a "girly girl," or whatever that means. She, like many women, found themselves being labeled a "tom boy" or "masculine" because she didn't wear purses and the like. These words were spoken by people who never had a biblical framework for how to understand gender in the first place. Situations such as these have clearly led to much confusion in the church and in the culture about what it means to be male and female in this world. Listen in as Preston and Jackie chat about it. To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Jackie never considered herself a "girly girl," or whatever that means. She, like many women, found themselves being labeled a "tom boy" or "masculine" because she didn't wear purses and the like. These words were spoken by people who never had a biblical framework for how to understand gender in the first place. Situations such as these have clearly led to much confusion in the church and in the culture about what it means to be male and female in this world. Listen in as Preston and Jackie chat about it. To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

Gender Identity, Biblical Womanhood, & Girly Girls

Giftedness and the success that can accompany it isn't gendered. Both men and women have the capacity to do great things with the gifts God has given them. But for some women, this comes with a hefty price. Their gifts, talents, and abilities can tend to intimidate the men in their lives. On this episode, Preston and Jackie have a conversation about why that's a thing and what couples can do individually to love and support each other above it all. To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal.To advertise with the Perrys, visit WithThePerrys.com/Partner.www.withtheperrys.comwww.jackiehillperry.comwww.preston-perry.com

Giftedness and the success that can accompany it isn't gendered. Both men and women have the capacity to do great things with the gifts God has given them. But for some women, this comes with a hefty price. Their gifts, talents, and abilities can tend to intimidate the men in their lives. On this episode, Preston and Jackie have a conversation about why that's a thing and what couples can do individually to love and support each other above it all. To support the work of the Perrys, <a href="https://paypal.me/withtheperrys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">donate via PayPal</a>.To advertise with the Perrys, visit <a href="http://withtheperrys.com/Partner" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">WithThePerrys.com/Partner</a>.<a href="http://www.withtheperrys.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.withtheperrys.com</a><a href="http://www.jackiehillperry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.jackiehillperry.com</a><a href="http://www.preston-perry.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.preston-perry.com</a>

When Your Man is Intimidated by Your Gifts

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