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Massage Therapy without Borders

In this podcast, massage therapy educators, practitioners and positive deviants Cathy Ryan, RMT and Cal Cates, LMT will use research, science, experience and humor to explore the differences and similarities in the practice, regulation, education trends and so much more of the “landscape” of the massage therapy profession in Canada and the United States and beyond. Occasional guests will join us to share their perspectives on healthcare policy, massage education, research, regulatory challenges and other relevant topics that will help us all navigate this hard-to-wrangle profession. You’ll always learn something. You’ll always laugh and you’ll come away better informed and with real things you can do in your own community and practice to create a more professional and sustainable future for massage therapy.

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In this podcast, massage therapy educators, practitioners and positive deviants Cathy Ryan, RMT and Cal Cates, LMT will use research, science, experience and humor to explore the differences and similarities in the practice, regulation, education trends and so much more of the “landscape” of the massage therapy profession in Canada and the United States and beyond. Occasional guests will join us to share their perspectives on healthcare policy, massage education, research, regulatory challenges and other relevant topics that will help us all navigate this hard-to-wrangle profession. You’ll always learn something. You’ll always laugh and you’ll come away better informed and with real things you can do in your own community and practice to create a more professional and sustainable future for massage therapy.

Introducing Interdisciplinary: The Health Care Podcast from Healwell

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Massage Therapy Without Borders is becoming . . . Interdisciplinary! In this preview episode, Cal and Cathy tell you all about the new name and the continued focus on deep conversations with compassionate humans. Subscribe at the links below to keep getting Cal and Cathy in your ears in 2021.

Don't worry -- the puns aren't going anywhere.
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Subscribe to Interdisciplinary on your favorite podcast app:

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Dec 23 2020

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Episode 37: Flow Master and Herder of Cats

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Welcome to the final episode of Massage Therapy Without Borders! For this episode, Cal and Cathy welcome Darren Buford to talk about the art of creation, how writing is best when it is supported by loving editors, and all the ways we have to share what we love. In the final conversation in this format, Cal, Cathy, and Darren demonstrate the beautiful things that happen from a truly collaborative space.
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We are not going away, just getting a little renovation!!

In January 2021, Cal Cates and Cathy Ryan will return as hosts of Interdisciplinary: The health care podcast from Healwell. Available on all major podcast outlets.
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Massage and Bodywork Magazine: www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com
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About Our Guest:
Darren Buford is editor-in-chief of Massage & Bodywork magazine and senior director of communications for Associated Bodywork & Massage Professionals (ABMP). Including working for ABMP for more than 20 years, he has served on the board and as president of the Western Publishing Association and currently serves on the board of Association Media & Publishing.

Dec 19 2020

1hr 9mins

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Episode 36: Change Is Afoot

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Cal and Cathy sit down with podcast producer, Rebecca Sturgeon, to reflect back on our year without borders. That's right -- we're weird like that. We do the end-of-year episode second-to-last instead of last. There have been some amazing conversations this year, some challenging moments, and always the touchstone of a caring, thoughtful community. We're so glad you're here, and look forward to taking you along as the podcast evolves.

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Dec 12 2020

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Episode 35: Nobody Passes Out

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"Hi. I'm Gil and I enjoy anatomy." This is how our guest introduced himself this week. Cal and Cathy talk with the inimitable Gil Hedley about anatomy, bodies, wholeness, acceptance, and the ultimate wisdom inherent in the human body. Listen to this episode if you are ready to embrace your perfect wholeness.
Quick warning: if you prefer beeped-out curse words, this may not be the episode for you.

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Seriously, though, check out Gil's amazing workshops: https://www.gilhedley.com

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About Our Guest:
Gil Hedley, Ph.D., has been teaching anatomy with an integral approach in the dissection lab for the past 26 years. He is the producer of The Integral Anatomy Series, the author of several books, and has spent a great deal of time on the road inviting folks to witness the gift of their human body with appreciation. Gil has a whole pile of free resources available to those who join his website, www.gilhedley.com where you can also find his teaching schedule and online courses.

Dec 05 2020

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Episode 34: What Your Association is For

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There are few things more alone-feeling in massage than that moment where your client says or does something that makes you uncomfortable. This week, Cathy and Cal talk with Tricia Weidenbacher of the Massage Therapy Association of Manitoba about support therapists through sexual harassment and other difficult moments. What does it look like for an association to guide and support therapists through challenges in their career? How does an association add to the lives of its members? And did Healwell just agree to create a new course based on this conversation?
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About Our Guest:
Tricia Weidenbacher is a Registered Massage Therapist and entrepreneur who has run a successful health care practice for over 20 years. Tricia cultivated her leadership and professional skills in food service management before making the jump to massage therapy in 1996. In 2013, Tricia decided to enhance her business health care career accepting the position of Education Coordinator for the Massage Therapy Association of Manitoba (https://mtam.mb.ca.) She elevated and expanded this role to Education & Event Manager, managing the professional development program for over 1100 massage therapists across Manitoba and developing education courses that are relevant for health care practitioners. In 2018, Tricia completed the Advanced Program in Management, Leadership and Strategy through the University of Manitoba Asper School of Business Executive Program. Most recently, she has earned the position of Executive Director of the MTAM and is currently responsible for the daily operations of the organization.

Nov 28 2020

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Episode 33: It's Not Magic

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If it looks like a duck, talks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it might be in the hands of one of massage therapist DeeDee Hoover's clients. This week, DeeDee joins Cathy and Cal to talk about pediatric massage therapy. What do we need to know about working with children (and the adults who love them)? How can we bring our aware, compassionate, adult-type skills to bear when working with pediatric clients and patients? And what is the hardest part about working with children? (Hint: It's probably not what you think.)
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Continue the conversation at the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org

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About Our Guest:
DeeDee Hoover is the owner of Whole Health Myotherapy in Beaverton, Oregon. After 30 years in the Massage Therapy and Bodywork profession working with prenatal and chronic pain patients, she has turned her focus to preventing chronic pain by working with the pediatric population and assisting other massage therapists to invite this amazing population into their practices. Her passion is to share with parents and caretakers what can be done for their children in daily lives to allow them to grow into happy healthy adults!
Find DeeDee on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Whole-Health-MyoTherapy-107123397473036

Nov 21 2020

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Episode 32: Running Interference

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Massage therapists have many thoughts and feelings about their organizations and organizational leaders. This week, Cal and Cathy reach into another time zone for a perspective from the other side of the world. Ann Davey, CEO of Massage and Myotherapy Australia, is on the podcast to talk about massage regulation, COVID concerns, and the practice of massage therapy in Australia. In this episode you will discover that although our toilet flushes swirl in opposite directions, but our hope and concerns are going the same way.
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About Our Guest:
Ann Davey is the Chief Executive Officer of Massage & Myotherapy Australia (https://www.massagemyotherapy.com.au/Home), a not-for-profit (NFP) organization which is the leading representative body for massage therapists, remedial massage therapists and myotherapists across Australia. Her focus is on delivering exceptional Strategic, Operational and Human Resources Leadership whilst reporting to the Board of Directors, along with finding new ways to engage with members including webcast shows The Wellness Program and Connect. All episodes are available on the Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/MassMyoAus), website, YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdPcBUESwkIJsSMTqlq_WTA), and LinkedIn page.

Ann has over 20 years of leadership experience across NFP, university and commercial organisations, holds a Bachelor of Commerce, Human Resources and Administration Management. She thrives on challenges, problem solving and providing leadership and development strategies to employees and colleagues.

Ann lives in Melbourne with her husband, family of four children and Buddy their gorgeous Kelpie. She volunteers with some friends running a Repair Café, an initiative to reduce landfill where they teach members of the community to repair or repurpose items they would otherwise throw away.

Nov 14 2020

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Episode 31: The O Words

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"How do you take good care of something you don't like?" Cal and Cathy sit with Hilary and Dana of Be Nourished to take a good look at bodies -- our own, other people's, and the socially constructed lenses that block compassion, acceptance, and access to quality care. This episode is critically important for all humans who have and live in bodies.

Be Nourished website: https://benourished.org/
Poodle Science: https://youtu.be/H89QQfXtc-k
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Giving Tuesday is December 1. Help us create a world with more compassion, more collaboration, and more love. https://healwell.networkforgood.com/projects/66419-donate-now
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About Our Guests:
Since 2005, Hilary Kinavey, MS, LPC and Dana Sturtevant, MS, RD have been facilitating transformational work that is focused on creating a body-compassionate and weight-inclusive world.
In their individual practices, Hilary and Dana noticed something: most of the actions people take to control the size, weight, and shape of their bodies are not sustainable and often cause more harm than good, despite their greatest intentions.
Hilary and Dana offer programs, workshops, retreats, and e-courses for individuals looking to reclaim body trust and the power to psychologically and physically be nourished in a culture filled with weight bias and body oppression.
They are also committed to providing those in the helping professions with the training and support to offer weight-inclusive and trauma-informed care to everyone. For seven years, Hilary and Dana taught in the Eating Disorder Certificate Program at Lewis & Clark College’s Graduate School of Education and Counseling in Portland, OR. Be Nourished offers an independent study e-course, support for culture change in organizations, and an intensive certification program for practitioners.

Nov 07 2020

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Episode 30: Representation Matters

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This week, Cathy and Cal explore equity, diversity, and inclusion in the massage therapy profession. What are the barriers that keep massage therapy from being more inclusive, both for practitioners and clients? Kemi Balogun and Ann Blair Kennedy are on the podcast to talk about their research, their lived experiences, and the vital importance of representation.

Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion in the Massage Therapy Profession (free full text): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7454234/

Click here to participate in Project COPE: shorturl.at/myOS1

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About Our Guests:

KEMI BALOGUN, BS
University of South Carolina School of Medicine, Greenville
Kemi Balogun is a fourth year medical student at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine Greenville. In 2016, she received her B.S. in Biology with a minor in Psychology at Wake Forest University. She has a special interest in women’s mental health and health care disparities.

ANN BLAIR KENNEDY, LMT, BCTMB, DRPH
University of South Carolina School of Medicine, Greenville
Dr. Kennedy is an Assistant Professor at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine Greenville in the Department of Biomedical Sciences. She became a board certified and a South Carolina licensed massage therapist in 1999 and was in clinical practice prior to pursuing her Doctor of Public Health degree in Health Promotion, Education, and Behavior from the University of South Carolina. She completed her Postdoctoral Fellowship in the Human Performance Lab at the USC School of Medicine Greenville in April 2017. Dr. Kennedy’s specific research interests include: patient and stakeholder engagement in research, implementation monitoring and process evaluation, integrative medicine, and stress/wellness particularly in health professionals. Finally, she is the Director of the Patient Engagement Studio and the Executive Editor/Editor-in-Chief of the International Journal of Therapeutic Massage and Bodywork.

Oct 31 2020

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Episode 29: If You Want Something Done, You Have to Do it Yourself

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Cathy and Cal go back to school with their guest this week, Jennifer Stuart. Form owning and operating a massage school during a pandemic, to ideas for elevating massage therapy education, this week's episode tackles all the biggest and stickiest issues in massage education.

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Continue the conversation at the Healwell Community, our space for like-minded practitioners to converse and collaborate: community.healwell.org

Better Together, Healwell's year-long peer supervision program starts in November. Use code "MTWB" at check out for 25% off this (or any other online course: https://online.healwell.org/courses/better-together

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About Our Guest:
Born and raised on the beautiful north shore of Nova Scotia, Jenn was steeped in traditional Maritime culture in Canada’s ocean playground. Attending Acadia University, she obtained a BSc in Biology & Chemistry, intending to go into medicine. Meeting a massage therapist in the late 80’s – one of ~12 therapists in NS at the time – changed the course of her life. She entered the Canadian College of Massage & Hydrotherapy (CCMH) in 1992, graduating with honours in 1993 and has never looked back. Her career began in Alberta where she instructed at multiple massage schools, developing curriculum, and crafting her classroom prowess, as well as practicing in a variety of health care settings. Her passions were teaching the science-based courses and treating patients with chronic pain conditions. Jenn married a classmate from CCMH, Peter Stuart, who has become one of Canada’s leading myofascial release specialists. Jenn and Pete moved their family back to Nova Scotia in 1999 and continued both practicing and teaching until 2008 when Jenn retired her hands to join the administration at CCMH Halifax. Next year, 2021, marks the 75th anniversary of CCMH and the 20th anniversary of Jenn’s employment with the legacy school. As of August 2020, she is now her own boss as a very proud co-owner of the only CCMH campus remaining in Canada, in Halifax.

Oct 24 2020

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Episode 28: Did It Help?

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Ruth Werner settles in with Cal and Cathy for a deep dive into critical thinking. What is it? How do we know when we're doing it? How can it be applied in our professional and personal lives? This episode feature's Ruth's 7-point guidelines for critical thinking, as outlined in her online class, Clarity Out of Chaos: How to make sense of the information assault.
Order Ruth's class here: https://online.healwell.org/courses/clarity-out-of-chaos
Use coupon code "MTWB" at check out for 25% off. Only 10 coupons remaining!

Check out the latest episode of Ruth's Podcast, "I Have a Client Who . . .": https://www.abmp.com/podcasts/ep-32-lipedema-i-have-client-who-pathology-conversations-ruth-werner
Ruth's website: http://ruthwerner.com
The latest edition of A Massage Therapist's Guide to Pathology: https://booksofdiscovery.com/for-instructors/why-teach-with-teach-massage-therapists-guide-pathology/#MTGPNew

About Our Gust:
Ruth Werner is an educator, writer, and retired massage therapist with a passionate interest in massage therapy research and the role of bodywork for people who live with health challenges. Her groundbreaking textbook, A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology was first published in 1998, and is now in its 7th edition, published by Books of Discovery.

Ruth is a columnist for Massage and Bodywork magazine and Massage New Zealand. She serves on several national and international volunteer committees, and teaches continuing education workshops in research and pathology all over the world. Ruth was honored with the AMTA Council of Schools Teacher of the Year Award for 2005. She was proud to serve the Massage Therapy Foundation as a Trustee from 2007 to 2017, and as President of the Foundation from 2010-2014.

Oct 17 2020

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Episode 27: We All Need Each Other

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This week, Cathy and Cal reach across the pond to bring Rachel Fairweather and Megan Mari of Jing Advanced Massage Training in Brighton, UK to the podcast. How do you create a rigorous training program in a country (UK) where the profession isn't well regulated? And will massage therapists even attend such a program? (Spoiler: Yes. Yes they will.) Rachel and Meghan also talk about how they built and maintained a robust and supportive community throughout the pandemic. You will be inspired and energized by this episode. (This episode features bonus sea bird noises and multiple human accents.)
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Jing Advanced Massage Training: https://www.jingmassage.com (Sign up for the mailing list to receive information about their weekly Massage Matters Zoominar -- a unique opportunity to connect with other massage therapists.)

“Massage Fusion: the Jing method for the treatment of chronic pain” - available from Handspring Publishing: https://www.handspringpublishing.com/product/massage-fusion/

Online courses in the Jing method: https://www.jingmassage.com/cpd/online-courses-2/
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Use code "MTWB" at online.healwell.org for 25% off any of Healwell's online classes.

Join our community for interdisciplinary conversations, collaboration, and exclusive Healwell content: community.healwell.org

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About Our Guests:
Rachel Fairweather & Meghan Mari are the dynamic co-founders and directors of Jing Advanced Massage Training (www.jingmassage.com), a UK based company providing degree level hands on and online training for all who are passionate about massage. Jing is unique in being the only school to offer degree level training in massage, soft tissue therapy and research skills in the UK and successful graduates of our 3 year programme have carried out research into all areas of soft tissue therapy.

Both Rachel and Meghan have degrees in Psychology and have trained extensively in Eastern and Western bodywork. Rachel holds a Postgraduate Diploma in Social Work. an AOS in Massage Therapy and is an licensed massage therapist. Meghan is a New York Licensed massage therapist, Certified Holistic Health Educator, and holds a Masters in International Law.

Rachel and Meghan are also authors of “Massage Fusion: The Jing method for the treatment of chronic pain” published by Handspring in 2015.
Rachel and Meghan have over 30 years combined experience in the industry working as advanced therapists and trainers, first in New York and now throughout the UK. Due to their extensive experience, undeniable passion and intense dedication, Rachel and Meghan are sought after international guest lecturers, write regularly for professional trade magazines, and together have twice received awards for outstanding achievement in their field.

Oct 10 2020

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Episode 26: Quit Pushing Your Peas Around

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Cal and Cathy welcome Dawn Hogue to the podcast to talk about human trafficking. This issue involves all of us: because traffickers use "massage" to cover their illicit businesses, because consumers may be harmed, and because people are being traumatized exploited and manipulated. We have the ability to make a positive change, as you will hear in this episode.

Polaris Project (for the best information on human trafficking): https://polarisproject.org
FSMTB Human Trafficking Task Force Report: https://www.fsmtb.org/media/1606/httf-report-final-web.pdf

Use coupon code "MTWB" and get 25% off any Healwell course at online.healwell.org.
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About Our Guest:
Dawn M. Hogue, MA, LMT
A graduate of the Cayce/Reilly® School of Massage, Dawn has been in the healing arts profession over 20 years. She serves as the Executive Director for COMTA where she manages the business operations, compliance responsibilities, and support of all Commission activities. Dawn was appointed to the Massage Therapy Advisory Board for the Virginia Department of Health Professions in 2015 and was a member of the Human Trafficking Task Force for the Federation of State Massage Therapy Boards. Dawn is a graduate of Naropa University having earned a Master’s degree in Somatic Psychology. Trained in the Matrixworks model of leadership and group facilitation, she is passionate about holistic health and supporting others on their path of personal and professional development.

Oct 03 2020

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Episode 25: Every Situation Needs Great Communication

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Cal and Cathy welcome Kelly Mack to the podcast for a discussion about living with a disability, and how healthcare workers can best support their clients who are living with a disability. And, of course, some talk about the mistakes humans and healthcare workers make. Plus, one of the best public transport stories we've ever heard.

RESOURCES:
Ableism 101: https://www.accessliving.org/newsroom/blog/ableism-101/
People First Language: https://www.disabilityisnatural.com/people-first-language.html
ADA National Network: Accessible Healthcare https://adata.org/factsheet/accessible-health-care#:~:text=Introduction,health%20care%20services%20and%20facilities.
CMS: Improving Access to Care for People with Disabilities https://www.cms.gov/About-CMS/Agency-Information/OMH/resource-center/hcps-and-researchers/Improving-Access-to-Care-for-People-with-Disabilities
How to make healthcare accessible for all: http://agerrtc.washington.edu/info/factsheets/healthaccess
National Council on Disability Bioethics Report Series: https://ncd.gov/publications/2019/bioethics-report-series
Department of Justice, Civil Rights Division, Disability Rights Section: This webpage provides information on how DOJ works to achieve equal opportunity for people with disabilities by implementing the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). At the bottom of their home page, you will find a number of resources about the ADA https://www.justice.gov/crt/disability-rights-section

Use coupon code "MTWB" at online.healwell.org for 25% off class of your choice.

About Our Guest:
Kelly Mack is a communications professional, specializing in health issues. In her spare time, she writes articles about living with rheumatoid arthritis (RA) and moderates for RheumatoidArthritis.net. She has lived with RA since age two, resulting in significant physical disabilities and use of a motorized wheelchair. Kelly earned a MA in Communications from Johns Hopkins University and a BA in Psychology from Bryn Mawr College. You can find Kelly on Twitter @MsKellyM and on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/mskellym/.

Sep 26 2020

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Episode 24: Tight, Loose, and the Future of Massage

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Cal and Cathy welcome Michele Gelfand, author of Rule Makers, Rule Breakers: How Tight and Loose Cultures Wire Our World (https://www.michelegelfand.com/rule-makers-rule-breakers), for a discussion about the culture of the massage profession, and how an understanding of tight and loose cultures can lead to a better understanding of ourselves and our fellow practitioners.

Take Michele's tight/loose mindset quiz here: https://www.michelegelfand.com/tl-quiz
Buy Michele's book, Rule Makers, Rule Breakers, here: https://rb.gy/hiktdj

Use promo code"MTWB" at online.healwell.org for 25% off any course you choose.

Healwell's first ever Love Run is this October. Join us to run/hike/walk/skate/grand jete 10K during the week of October 25-31and help us create a world where people are the most important thing. Learn more/sign up here: https://pledgeit.org/for/healwell

About our guest:

Dr. Michele Gelfand (https://www.michelegelfand.com) is a Distinguished University Professor at the University of Maryland, College Park. Gelfand uses field, experimental, computational, and neuroscience methods to understand the evolution of culture--as well as its multilevel consequences for human groups. Her work has been cited over 20,000 times and has been featured in the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Boston Globe, National Public Radio, Voice of America, Fox News, NBC News, ABC News, The Economist, De Standard, among other outlets. She is the author of Rule Makers, Rule Breakers: How Tight and Loose Cultures Wire the World (Scribner, 2018.) A native New Yorker, Michele currently lives in University Park, Maryland with her husband, two daughters, and her dog, Pepper.

Sep 19 2020

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Episode 23: It's About Understanding Yourself

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Celia Bucci returns this week for a challenging discussion about bias, discrimination, and teaching cultural competency. How do we truly welcome a broad array of people, in our practice and in our lives?

Use code "MTWB" at online.healwell.org for 25% off any of our classes. For example, you may want to continue the work of examining our shared humanity with our live, online retreat: Opening to the Mystery: https://online.healwell.org/courses/opening-to-the-mystery

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About Our Guest:
Celia Bucci (she/her) has been a massage therapist since 2002, and a massage therapy educator since 2004. She is the author of Condition-Specific Massage Therapy, a text that helps therapists apply their basic skills to address the specific signs and symptoms of common muscuoloskeletal pain complaints. Celia has served on several boards and committees including the Alliance for Massage Therapy Education National Teachers Trainers Curriculum Development Committee, and as a Subject Matter Expert for the NCBTMB Board Certification Exam. These are the things Celia does to build brain power. The rest of the time she’s probably gardening, kayaking, walking, or dancing to House music to build soul power.

Sep 12 2020

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Episode 22: Don't Be Creepy

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Amanda Baskwill joins Cal and Cathy this week to talk about who we are as massage therapists. What makes a good massage therapist? What makes a less-than-good massage therapist? And how do we define ourselves and what we do?

Use code "MTWB" at online.healwell.org for 25% off any of Healwell's online courses. If you are interested in exploring what massage therapy means to you, you might consider Better Together: Healwell's year-long peer supervision. View a preview of Better Together here: https://online.healwell.org/courses/preview-better-together

We have merch! Wear your favorite podcast on your back while you're listening in your ear. https://www.bonfire.com/more-calbell/

Check out the INCAM Research Symposium that Dr. Baskwill mentioned: https://www.fourwav.es/view/2053/info/

About our guest:
Amanda Baskwill is a healthcare educator and researcher with a PhD in Health Research Methodology from McMaster University. Amanda is the Associate Dean for Allied Health at Humber College where she champions allied health programs, inter-professional education, and academic integrity. She is the Practice and Education Section Editor for the International Journal of Therapeutic Massage and Bodywork. Her research interests include innovative teaching and learning strategies in healthcare education, the professional identity of healthcare providers, the application of evidence-informed practice, and the safety and effectiveness of massage therapy in the treatment of various conditions.

Sep 05 2020

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Episode 21: Pandemic of Solutions

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This week, we've got Su from Kalamazoo! Cal and Cathy welcome Su Bibik to the podcast for a conversation that is as simple as 2+2 and as deep as the nature of Time itself. This conversation is uncensored, so more sensitive listeners should be prepared for some swears.

Use coupon code "MTWB" for 25% off all courses at online.healwell.org. This week, we are featuring our intake class, Say More, Say Less: Making Intake Matter (https://online.healwell.org/courses/intake-skills) and Opening to the Mystery, a live, online retreat that happens October 19-24 (https://online.healwell.org/courses/opening-to-the-mystery)

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A Pandemic of Solutions https://www.bonfire.com/a-pandemic-of-solutions/

About Our Guest, Su from Kalamazoo:

Su began her professional career as a math teacher in high school and college 48 years ago until she easily transitioned into massage therapy and applied her expertise in the classroom there. She has an uncanny ability to convey otherwise difficult information and concepts in a fun and meaningful fashion. Her passion for the profession is expressed through action as a massage educator and school owner since 1986, as a member on the Exam Development Committee for MBLEx since its inception, and as a founding member, past board member and current Leadership Development Committee member for the Alliance for Massage Therapy Education. If she’s not doing any of that, you can find her with her grandsons, at Lake Michigan or Lake Superior reading on the beach, or scuba diving someplace warm.

Aug 29 2020

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Episode 20: The Human Factor

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This week our guest says the things many massage therapists might only be thinking. Cal and Cathy welcome Amanda Long who talks about her experience going back to work doing massage, and the gut-wrenching decision to stop practicing again.

Use coupon code "MTWB" at online.healwell.org for 25% off any classes.

About Our Guest:
Amanda discovered the true healing benefits of massage after breaking her femur in a bicycling accident in 1999. Massage was integral to her rehab, and revealed not only the therapeutic value of hands-on work, but also the resiliency of our bodies and the power of the collaborative relationship between practitioner and client. Amanda spent a good chunk of her life massaging words as a journalist and editor, and returned to freelancing when the pandemic started.
The death of a close friend and coworker proved to be the catalyst that brought her to Potomac Massage Training Institute in 2010.

More about Amanda:
https://www.tealcenter.com/practitioner/amanda-long-lmt/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2020/04/10/after-lifelong-struggle-with-an-eating-disorder-she-has-more-fear-than-coronavirus-during-self-isolation/?arc404=true

Aug 22 2020

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Episode 19: Tough Conversations

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NOTE: If our guest sounds like she's being recorded from a phone held up to the microphone, it's because she is. We had connection challenges, but she powered through because this conversation is so important. We hope you will too.

Pam Fitch is back! This time, its conversational. Cathy, Cal, and Pam tackle the touch question of what to do when your client is expressing uncomfortable opinions. How do you provide the best possible care when your client is on the other end of the political spectrum?

About Our Guest:
For more than thirty years, Canadian massage therapy educator, writer, researcher and long-time practitioner, Pamela Fitch, has explored professional, ethical and communicative challenges faced by manual therapists. She remains particularly interested in how massage therapy affects clients who have experienced trauma, post-traumatic stress and complex pain conditions. A committed educator, she has been recognized with several awards for teaching.

We're off next week, but you can stay connected to big topics with our online education. Use coupon code MTWB for a discount on any Healwell course at online.healwell.org. Coupon quantities are limited.

A great class that continues the conversation from this podcast is Unconscious Bias: Interrupting the stories that prevent us from delivering optimal care. Check it out here: https://online.healwell.org/courses/unconscious-bias

Aug 08 2020

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Phew, what a breath of fresh air you all are!

By Arei2013 - May 11 2020
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Great to hear such thoughtful, compassionate discussion around where we massage therapists find ourselves right now. I definitely enjoy and appreciate the international perspective. You all are bright lights in the darkness of the world right now.

Vital Conversation

By ursaminor - May 02 2020
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Highly recommended for practitioners and educators in our field. Intelligent analysis, realistic discussions of current issues. And puns. What’s not to like?