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That's Not How That Works

This podcast is an exploration of diversity, inclusion, and equity and how these things show up, (or don’t) in our personal and professional communities.Weeze and Trudi are JEDI Masters, (Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion,) who fundamentally believe that we all have a responsibility to create safer spaces, center marginalized communities and just do better! If you like what you hear join us in our That’s Not How That Works facebook group to continue the conversation! https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Enjoy the Show!

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Ep. 68: The basics: justice, equity, diversity & inclusion

We throw around a lot of words that can be misunderstood or misinterpreted. In this episode we’re unpacking words like diversity AND inclusion (DNI) and talking about what they were intended for vs. how they are misused. Hop over to episode 44 for all of the ways diversity and inclusion can have an impact. Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

47mins

11 Jan 2020

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Ep 37: The Basics of White Centering

Happy New Year Everyone! In this episode, Trudi & Weeze dive into the topic of White Centering. We explore mainstream and marginalized identities, give examples of how much of the world we live in is basically a world that centers whiteness.If you're a fan of the show join us in the Facebook Group here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/

1hr 8mins

17 Jan 2019

Rank #2

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Ep. 60: Byron Katie, The Fairy Godmother of Spiritual Bypassing

In this episode, Trudi & Weeze discuss the coaching ideologies of “spiritual teachers and leaders” like Byron Katie. We explore how harmful new aged spiritual white women can be when coaching from a belief system that places the burden of oppression on the oppressed, like Byron Katie’s “work” does.Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworkspodcastMusic by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

1hr 6mins

7 Nov 2019

Rank #3

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Ep.82: TNHTW 101: Summer Syllabus Final

This is our last episode of the season! Trudi and Weeze will be back in September with all new podcast episodes but in the meantime they have set up a curriculum to go back and listen to some of the most influential episodes so far. These are for you whether you are a newcomer to the podcast or if you just need refreshers as you continue on their path to wokeness. These will work in conjunction with our newsletter (that you should sign up for!) and our Facebook page to continue the discussion as always. Our book club will also be reviewing two books a month so there is plenty of opportunity to learn and interact with us. Until then enjoy these episodes...ok byeeeeeee!FoundationalEpisode 68 - The Basics: justice, equity, diversity & inclusion: https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-68-the-basics-justice-equity-diversity-inclusion Episode 25 - Can White folks Experience Racism? (and how TNHTW almost got cancelled):https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep25 Episode 76 - Education vs. Action: Each plays a role in equity but only one creates change:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-76-education-vs-action-each-plays-a-role-in-equity-but-only-one-creates-changeFrom Ally to AccompliceEpisode 19 - Lets Cut the BS: From Ally to Accomplice:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-19-lets-cut-the-bullshit-from-ally-to-accompliceEpisode 70 - Wait WTF…I can be down and still not be woke?:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/wait-wtfi-can-be-down-and-still-not-be-wokeEpisode 29 - When Glennon Doyle’s Attempt at Allyship Went Wrong:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep29 WhitenessEpisode 37 - The Basics of White Centering:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep37 Episode 41 - Whitesplaining and Webster…A look at language:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep41 Episode 10 - Don’t Be A BBQ Becky:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-10-dont-be-a-bbq-becky SafetyEpisode 64 - Safe Space, a journey: the what, how & how not!:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-64-safe-space-a-journey-the-what-how-how-not Episode 46 - Do White Folks Deserve Safe Spaces?:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep46 Episode 60 - Byron Katie, The Fairy Godmother of Spiritual Bypassing:https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-60-byron-katie-the-fairy-godmother-of-spiritual-bypassing Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

35mins

28 May 2020

Rank #4

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Ep. 81: Who is Karen & why does she want to talk to the manager?

Have you ever seen a “Karen?” She’s the one who storms through the sliding doors with her apologetic husband in tow. Her short “power” haircut, oversized sunglasses and bratty kids let everyone know her entitled ass is getting whatever she wants. She yells and accuses everyone causing as much of a scene as possible, if provoked then she will unleash her final attack saying, “I want to speak to your manager!” This is a “Karen”... she’s not a new phenomenon but she can now be identified properly with the rise of social media. In this episode, Trudi & Weeze break down what being a Karen is and how whiteness plays a major role in being one. Listen in as we explore potential outcomes and how you can help combat all the Karening going on.Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

49mins

21 May 2020

Rank #5

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Ep48: Tony Robbins and Culturally (in)Competent Coaching

In this episode, Trudi and Weeze do a deep dive into the issue of the release of Tony Robbins repeated use of the N-word during an event 20+ years ago. We look a few issues with the video including the use of the n-word as a "therapeutic" coaching tactic, cultural competency of coaching, and why this even matters all these years later. You can see the Medium article referenced in the show here: https://medium.com/p/tony-robbins-cognitive-dissonance-751095390cd?source=email-ff1181a0412a--writer.postDistributed&sk=1a58db9836d04ed88ad621f5f04f9271Join us in the Facebook Group to continue the conversation here:https://www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworks

1hr 2mins

1 Jun 2019

Rank #6

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Ep 10: Don't Be A BBQ Becky!

In this episode, Weeze and Trudi discuss BBQ Becky's, who they are, what role they play in the world, how to deal with them, and most importantly HOW TO NOT BE ONE. We also cover how BBQ Becky's show up in the coaching and personal development world. Remember to check us out on Patreon at www.patreon.com/nothowthatworks

50mins

20 Jun 2018

Rank #7

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Ep 19: Let's Cut the BS: From Ally to Accomplice

In this episode, we talk about the journey from Ally to Accomplice. We define performative allyship, and why its a problem, and explore the pathway that someone must travel in order to be in full partnership and support of people of color. Also... our TNHTW's Facebook group is live and open to the public. Here's the link... join us! https://www.facebook.com/groups/1077973785700853/

53mins

16 Aug 2018

Rank #8

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Ep. 80: Privilege and Pandemics

Privileged during the pandemic? It may not always feel that way, but many of us are in one way or another. What are you doing with it, though? In today’s episode, Trudi & Weeze are diving into what privilege IS, what it ISN’T, what choices you have during this time, and how you can use this time to rise while making sure others rise with you.Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

52mins

14 May 2020

Rank #9

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Ep 51: Justing Livingston is Working Towards Woke

In this episode, Trudi & Weeze welcome Justin Livingston who shares about his own journey as a white man to understanding race, diversity, equity, and how it shows up (or doesn't) in the coaching and transformational development industry, and what he sees as his role is the work. You can continue the conversation with us in the FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworksYou can also find our FREE masterclass at: www.nothowthatworks.com/freemasterclass

57mins

26 Jun 2019

Rank #10

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Ep 12: All Work... No Tribe

In today's episode, Trudi and Weeze talk about "The Work". We discuss what it means, the phases of the work, why it's important for all people to explore their own identity, privilege and power (yes... including people of color). We also talk about the problem with the word Tribe, and how much we wish folks would stop using it.

49mins

6 Jul 2018

Rank #11

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Ep 41: Whitesplaining and Webster... A look at language

In this episode, Weeze and Trudi talk about whitesplaining and Webster (as in Webster's dictionary). We explain what whitesplaining is, how to recognize it and ask that folks stop doing it. We also explore the epidemic of people using Webster's dictionary to understand complex, nuanced, social problems we are facing.Remember to join us in the Facebook group to continue the discussion: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1077973785700853

55mins

22 Feb 2019

Rank #12

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Ep. 76: Education vs. Action: Each plays a role in equity but only one creates change

On today's spicy episode Trudi and Weeze are exploring education and action. In creating equitable change both are needed, but sometimes people can confuse the two. This distinction is the core of today’s episode. How does this show up in a professional setting? How do you identify where you are on the spectrum of education vs action? How do you properly support others if you are unable to be in a leadership role? How do you get educated and how do you get actionable? We’re exploring all of this and more in today's discussion. So relax...but also buckle up boo, ‘cause this episode is fire....Oh, and Joaquin Phoenix…. check it it!Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

45mins

5 Mar 2020

Rank #13

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Ep 54: The End of the Beginning for TNHTW

We have a special announcement... well, a few actually. In this episode, we announce our plans for a podcast upgrade, some new projects we're working on and how YOU can be involved. Join the relaunch team at: www.nothowthatworks.com/relaunch

57mins

9 Aug 2019

Rank #14

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Ep 55: BONUS EPISODE - Chelsea Handler's Trauma Porn Netflix Special

This bonus episode is TOTALLY Off the Cuff, and Uncut because we should be focused on our relaunch and are supposed to be on hiatus. However, we've been asked for a formal response to the Chelsea Handler Netflix Special, "Hello, Privilege, it's me, Chelsea" and we have a LOT to say.

42mins

26 Sep 2019

Rank #15

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Ep 11: If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck... Its a Concentration Camp

In this episode, Trudi and Weeze explore the crisis at the border and the policies that have allowed thousands of children to be taken from their families. As coaches, what is our obligation to be having these discussions both publically, and in our private communities? What if our niche has nothing to do with this "stuff"?

51mins

28 Jun 2018

Rank #16

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Ep17: Don't Check My Privilege

In this episode, Weeze and Trudi discuss what it means when someone says Check Your Privilege. We explore the different types of privilege people hold, what it means to check that privilege, and how it triggers some people when they hear it. We further address some manifestations of white privilege and give some examples of how to use privilege to create equity for marginalized communities (which is really the whole point of our work).

55mins

1 Aug 2018

Rank #17

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Ep. 79: Your Woke Urban Dictionary

Hey y’all! We’re back and it feels so good! Have you heard people calling themselves “equity informed” or “justice informed?” On today’s episode Trudi & Weeze are gonna give it to ya straight about what those terms ACTUALLY mean, the questions you need to know to figure out if you or a coach you want to work with is truly helpful and not harmful, and some special news and events for y’all!Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nothowthatworks Visit the site: https://www.nothowthatworks.com/Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

52mins

8 May 2020

Rank #18

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Ep. 67: 20/20 - That's Clear Vision

Today Trudi & Weeze are doing a year end review. We explore the lessons we learned in 2019 as well as our words and themes of the year and big scary goals for 2020.Network & Spill episode: http://networkandspill.com/2019/09/strangerdanger-w-liberation-coach-louiza-weeze-doran/Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkinshttps://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

1hr 11mins

31 Dec 2019

Rank #19

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Ep47: Interns, Getting that Dream Job, and Equitable Work

In this episode, Weeze and Trudi discuss internships, modern advice on how to score dream jobs and how that intersects with economic and work equity. Let's do better y'all. Join the conversation on FB at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworks

1hr 2mins

22 May 2019

Rank #20