Emeka Ogboh

A maker of multisensory artworks reflects on the importance of listening to our surroundings. In 2014, Nigerian-born artist Emeka Ogboh moved from Lagos to Berlin. This experience marked not only a shift in his surroundings, but also a shift in his artwork. “Shuttling between two places,” Ogboh explains, “your brain has to do this switch. And that fusion of two places started occurring to me.” His immersive installation Lagos State of Mind III, currently on view in MoMA’s second-floor galleries, blends the experience of living in these two cities. For this month’s Ten Minutes podcast, just in time for World Listening Day—an annual celebration held on July 18—we invite you to explore your surroundings and reflect on how sound shapes our world. Access a transcript of the conversation here: https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/923

A maker of multisensory artworks reflects on the importance of listening to our surroundings. In 2014, Nigerian-born artist <a href="https://www.moma.org/artists/134122" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Emeka Ogboh</a> moved from Lagos to Berlin. This experience marked not only a shift in his surroundings, but also a shift in his artwork. “Shuttling between two places,” Ogboh explains, “your brain has to do this switch. And that fusion of two places started occurring to me.” His immersive installation <a href="https://www.moma.org/collection/works/427853" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lagos State of Mind III</a>, currently on view in <a href="https://www.moma.org/calendar/galleries/5538" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">MoMA’s second-floor galleries</a>, blends the experience of living in these two cities. For this month’s <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/tags/225" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ten Minutes podcast</a>, just in time for World Listening Day—an annual celebration held on July 18—we invite you to explore your surroundings and reflect on how sound shapes our world. Access a transcript of the conversation here: <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/923" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/923</a>

Ten Minutes with Emeka Ogboh: On Active Listening

The winner of RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars reflects on how drag changes us for the better. For this month’s Ten Minutes podcast, we spoke to the award-winning opera singer and drag queen Monét X Change about the anti-drag movement, which has led to protests across the country in response to the growing popularity of drag. “With all these legislations and bills to try to keep drag away from certain people,” says Monét X Change, “it feels like an attack on our livelihood and this, like, way to dehumanize us.” But queer people across the country are using their voice and artistry to resist and show that the contributions of LGBTQIA+ communities are crucial to society. In Monét’s words, “Drag has been around for a very long time. Something that has been around for so long is living proof that it informs the culture and that it is completely valid.” Access a transcript of the conversation here: https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/917

The winner of RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars reflects on how drag changes us for the better. For this month’s <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/tags/225" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ten Minutes podcast</a>, we spoke to the award-winning opera singer and drag queen <a href="https://www.monetxchange.com/home-1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Monét X Change</a> about the <a href="https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/58337/1/america-war-on-drag-story-hour-right-proud-boys" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">anti-drag movement</a>, which has led to protests across the country in response to the growing popularity of drag. “With all these legislations and bills to try to keep drag away from certain people,” says Monét X Change, “it feels like an attack on our livelihood and this, like, way to dehumanize us.” But queer people across the country are using their voice and artistry to resist and show that the contributions of LGBTQIA+ communities are crucial to society. In Monét’s words, “Drag has been around for a very long time. Something that has been around for so long is living proof that it informs the culture and that it is completely valid.” Access a transcript of the conversation here: <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/917" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/917</a>

Ten Minutes with Monét X Change: On Drag

For many, a trip to MoMA means confronting questions of access: Does this space welcome people like me? Will I be given what I need in order to feel safe and included? At the core of this month’s Ten Minutes podcast is the question, What does access look like? According to Laura Aguilar’s work Access + Opportunity = Success, access includes, among other things, “the right to enter or use.” But Dr. Therí Pickens argues that access goes deeper than that. Using Aguilar’s work as a point of departure, the writer and disability studies scholar explores how our lives are shaped by our identities and the privileges granted to certain bodies and experiences. Access a transcript of the conversation here: https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/894

For many, a trip to MoMA means confronting questions of access: Does this space welcome people like me? Will I be given what I need in order to feel safe and included? At the core of this month’s <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/tags/225" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ten Minutes podcast</a> is the question, What does access look like? According to Laura Aguilar’s work <a href="https://www.moma.org/collection/works/428141" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Access + Opportunity = Success</a>, access includes, among other things, “the right to enter or use.” But Dr. Therí Pickens argues that access goes deeper than that. Using Aguilar’s work as a point of departure, the writer and disability studies scholar explores how our lives are shaped by our identities and the privileges granted to certain bodies and experiences. Access a transcript of the conversation here: <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/894" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/894</a>

Ten Minutes with Therí Pickens: On Access

Amira Virgil

What do video games reveal about our reality? In this Ten Minutes podcast, hear from gamer and content creator Amira Virgil, developer of the Melanin Pack for The Sims 4, about her vision to create a more accurate and inclusive version of the game.   Access a transcript of the conversation here: https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/778

What do video games reveal about our reality? In this <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/tags/225" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ten Minutes podcast</a>, hear from gamer and content creator Amira Virgil, developer of the Melanin Pack for The Sims 4, about her vision to create a more accurate and inclusive version of the game. Access a transcript of the conversation here: <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/778" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/778</a>

Ten Minutes with Amira Virgil: On Video Games

Kalpona Akter

In Bangladesh, a garment worker barely makes enough money to cover the cost of rent. Discover the truth about the unfair labor practices behind many of the clothes we wear. In this Ten Minutes podcast episode, Kalpona Akter, founder of the Bangladesh Center for Workers Solidarity (BCWS), describes the lives of garment workers in Bangladesh and some of the ways we can advocate for fair labor practices when making purchases. Access a transcript of the conversation here: https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/816

In Bangladesh, a garment worker barely makes enough money to cover the cost of rent. Discover the truth about the unfair labor practices behind many of the clothes we wear. In this <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/tags/225" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ten Minutes podcast</a> episode, Kalpona Akter, founder of the <a href="https://www.bcwsbd.org/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bangladesh Center for Workers Solidarity</a> (BCWS), describes the lives of garment workers in Bangladesh and some of the ways we can advocate for fair labor practices when making purchases. Access a transcript of the conversation here: <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/816" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/816</a>

Ten Minutes with Kalpona Akter: On Fast Fashion

Adam F. Bradley

What is the relationship between literature and modern art?  Join Adam F. Bradley, English professor and co-editor of Ralph Ellison's unfinished second novel, for a discussion about race and invisibility on the written page and beyond. Discover Ellison's iconic book Invisible Man and the ways it continues to resonate with readers (and artists) 70 years after its original publication.   Access a transcript of the conversation here: https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/751

What is the relationship between literature and modern art?  Join Adam F. Bradley, English professor and co-editor of Ralph Ellison's unfinished second novel, for a discussion about race and invisibility on the written page and beyond. Discover Ellison's iconic book Invisible Man and the ways it continues to resonate with readers (and artists) 70 years after its original publication. Access a transcript of the conversation here: <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/751" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/751</a>

Ten Minutes with Adam F. Bradley: On Invisible Man

Lindsey Farrar

Hear how a publisher decided to “create the world that we want to see” by founding the first natural-hair magazine. In this Ten Minutes podcast episode, we talk to Lindsey Farrar, who cofounded CRWNMAG in 2016 with Nkrumah Farrar. The print and digital publication is dedicated to celebrating the diversity of Black women and the beauty of their natural hair textures. Hear Farrar talk about about CRWNMAG, the natural hair movement, and the possibilities of changing society through media. Access a transcript of the conversation here: https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/852

Hear how a publisher decided to “create the world that we want to see” by founding the first natural-hair magazine. In this <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/tags/225" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ten Minutes podcast</a> episode, we talk to Lindsey Farrar, who cofounded <a href="https://www.crwnmag.com/about" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">CRWNMAG</a> in 2016 with Nkrumah Farrar. The print and digital publication is dedicated to celebrating the diversity of Black women and the beauty of their natural hair textures. Hear Farrar talk about about CRWNMAG, the natural hair movement, and the possibilities of changing society through media. Access a transcript of the conversation here: <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/852" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/852</a>

Ten Minutes with Lindsey Farrar: On Hair

Listen to the acclaimed writer talk about Elizabeth Catlett’s sculpture Mother and Child, and its connections to rest, intimacy, and reproductive justice. In this Ten Minutes podcast episode, Hall reflects on a childhood wrapped in the embrace of Black community and an adulthood of “relearning how to hold” three generations of women in her family. Through tender descriptions of this sculpture and lyrical insights that weave together the personal and political, Hall conjures the spirit of Catlett and the many Black mothers who came before and after. Access a transcript of the conversation here: https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/732

Listen to the acclaimed writer talk about Elizabeth Catlett’s sculpture Mother and Child, and its connections to rest, intimacy, and reproductive justice. In this <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/tags/225" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ten Minutes podcast</a> episode, Hall reflects on a childhood wrapped in the embrace of Black community and an adulthood of “relearning how to hold” three generations of women in her family. Through tender descriptions of this sculpture and lyrical insights that weave together the personal and political, Hall conjures the spirit of Catlett and the many Black mothers who came before and after. Access a transcript of the conversation here: <a>https://www.moma.org/magazine/articles/732</a>

Ten Minutes with K. Melchor Hall: On Black Motherhood

Tricia Wang

A tech ethnographer explains some key terms and ideas behind the future of the Internet. In Unsupervised, Refik Anadol’s new installation at MoMA, the artist makes use of a core part of the Web3 technology: blockchain. What is blockchain technology and how does it relate to Web3? More importantly, why should we care about any of this? In this Ten Minutes podcast, we explore these questions with Tricia Wang, a tech ethnographer who studies the ways technology shapes our humanity. For Wang, Web3 offers enormous creative potential. In this new vision for the Web, we can tell new stories, explore our identities, and build more equitable communities.

A tech ethnographer explains some key terms and ideas behind the future of the Internet. In <a href="https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5535" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Unsupervised</a>, Refik Anadol’s new installation at MoMA, the artist makes use of a core part of the Web3 technology: blockchain. What is blockchain technology and how does it relate to Web3? More importantly, why should we care about any of this? In this <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/tags/225" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ten Minutes podcast</a>, we explore these questions with Tricia Wang, a tech ethnographer who studies the ways technology shapes our humanity. For Wang, Web3 offers enormous creative potential. In this new vision for the Web, we can tell new stories, explore our identities, and build more equitable communities.

Ten Minutes with Tricia Wang: On Web3

Fonna Forman

Discover how architecture can unite communities divided by an international border. Political theorist Fonna Forman and architect and visual artist Teddy Cruz talk about Manufactured Sites, an architectural project based on the flow of material waste between border cities in the United States and Mexico. Tires, garage doors, and even entire homes make their way from San Diego to Tijuana, where migrants seeking entry into the US reconfigure the parts into emergency housing. But the project doesn’t stop there—it also presents new possibilities for safer emergency housing. In this Ten-Minutes podcast, we hear about the ways communities can collaborate across international borders and the possibility of creating a safe home for everyone.

Discover how architecture can unite communities divided by an international border. Political theorist Fonna Forman and architect and visual artist Teddy Cruz talk about Manufactured Sites, an architectural project based on the flow of material waste between border cities in the United States and Mexico. Tires, garage doors, and even entire homes make their way from San Diego to Tijuana, where migrants seeking entry into the US reconfigure the parts into emergency housing. But the project doesn’t stop there—it also presents new possibilities for safer emergency housing. In this <a href="https://www.moma.org/magazine/tags/225" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ten-Minutes podcast</a>, we hear about the ways communities can collaborate across international borders and the possibility of creating a safe home for everyone.

Ten Minutes with Teddy Cruz and Fonna Forman: On Building Citizenship

The MoMA Magazine Podcast brings passionate perspectives on art, artists, and ideas that shape culture today.

Mabel O. Wilson

Can junk be transformed into art? Discover the life and work of John Outterbridge, an artist who combined discarded objects and found materials into complex works of art. Hear from architect Mabel O. Wilson about her uncle's salvaging practice and the ways it brought him closer to his family, community, and visions for a better future.

Can junk be transformed into art? Discover the life and work of John Outterbridge, an artist who combined discarded objects and found materials into complex works of art. Hear from architect Mabel O. Wilson about her uncle's salvaging practice and the ways it brought him closer to his family, community, and visions for a better future.

Ten Minutes with Mabel O. Wilson: On Found Materials

Olivia Laing

David Wojnarowicz

The artist and writer David Wojnarowicz, who died in 1992 at age of 37 from complications of AIDS, is best remembered for his political activism and his vibrant, confrontational paintings. Yet in her 2016 book The Lonely City, author Olivia Laing writes movingly about Wojnarowicz as a figure haunted by loneliness, a condition that inspired to him to fashion his work into a vehicle for visibility and connection. As part of our celebration of Pride month, writer Alex Halberstadt recently spoke with Laing—whose latest is Everybody: A Book About Freedom—about David Wojnarowicz’s life, legacy, and the desire for connection that animated his incandescent writing and art. 

The artist and writer <a href="https://www.moma.org/artists/6623" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">David Wojnarowicz</a>, who died in 1992 at age of 37 from complications of AIDS, is best remembered for his political activism and his vibrant, confrontational paintings. Yet in her 2016 book The Lonely City, author <a href="https://www.olivialaing.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Olivia Laing</a> writes movingly about Wojnarowicz as a figure haunted by loneliness, a condition that inspired to him to fashion his work into a vehicle for visibility and connection. As part of our celebration of Pride month, writer Alex Halberstadt recently spoke with Laing—whose latest is Everybody: A Book About Freedom—about David Wojnarowicz’s life, legacy, and the desire for connection that animated his incandescent writing and art.

Art & Intimacy: Olivia Laing on David Wojnarowicz

What does it mean for bodies of water, animals, and all of nature to be granted legal rights? In this episode of the Broken Nature series, host Paola Antonelli explores how the law can help us conceive of nature differently, and maybe even curb our destructive instincts. Author Nathaniel Rich tells the story "Dark Waters" about how environmental regulations in the United States have fallen short, activist Vimlandu Jha describes how he fights the pollution of India's Yamuna river, and Belkis Izquierdo describes her role as a magistrate in Colombia's Special Jurisdiction for Peace, a judicial body created to investigate and judge the crimes committed during the country’s decades-long civil war. For more on this episode, visit moma.org/magazine.

What does it mean for bodies of water, animals, and all of nature to be granted legal rights? In this episode of the Broken Nature series, host Paola Antonelli explores how the law can help us conceive of nature differently, and maybe even curb our destructive instincts. Author Nathaniel Rich tells the story "Dark Waters" about how environmental regulations in the United States have fallen short, activist Vimlandu Jha describes how he fights the pollution of India's Yamuna river, and Belkis Izquierdo describes her role as a magistrate in Colombia's Special Jurisdiction for Peace, a judicial body created to investigate and judge the crimes committed during the country’s decades-long civil war. For more on this episode, visit <a href="http://moma.org/magazine" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">moma.org/magazine</a>.

Broken Nature | Who Is a River?

Humans depend on certain conditions to survive on Earth: oxygen, water, food, and the atmosphere’s protection from the sun’s most dangerous rays. But what happens when these conditions begin to change? Host Paola Antonelli is joined by Sarah Henderson, Scientific Director of Environmental Health Services at the British Columbia Center for Disease Control, geneticist Christopher Mason, and Nathalie Cabrol, Director of the SETI Institute at the Carl Sagan Center for Research, to investigate the how the climate crisis affects the most intimate system in our lives: our own body. For more information on this episode, visit moma.org/magazine.

Humans depend on certain conditions to survive on Earth: oxygen, water, food, and the atmosphere’s protection from the sun’s most dangerous rays. But what happens when these conditions begin to change? Host Paola Antonelli is joined by Sarah Henderson, Scientific Director of Environmental Health Services at the British Columbia Center for Disease Control, geneticist Christopher Mason, and Nathalie Cabrol, Director of the SETI Institute at the Carl Sagan Center for Research, to investigate the how the climate crisis affects the most intimate system in our lives: our own body. For more information on this episode, visit <a href="http://moma.org/magazine" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">moma.org/magazine</a>.

Broken Nature | Will We Need to Become Less Human to Survive the Climate Crisis?

This episode of The MoMA Magazine Podcast's Broken Nature series explores the global secondhand clothing landscape: who participates in it, who benefits from it, who suffers because of it, and whether it is in fact a sustainable alternative to the excessive consumption encouraged by the fashion industry. Host Paola Antonelli is joined by Andrew Brooks, the author of Clothing Poverty: The Hidden World of Fast Fashion and Second-Hand Clothes, Katekani Moreku, a South African fashion designer who uses discarded clothing to create new garments, and Julie Wainwright, founder and CEO of The RealReal, a business focused on luxury consignment. 

This episode of The MoMA Magazine Podcast's Broken Nature series explores the global secondhand clothing landscape: who participates in it, who benefits from it, who suffers because of it, and whether it is in fact a sustainable alternative to the excessive consumption encouraged by the fashion industry. Host Paola Antonelli is joined by Andrew Brooks, the author of Clothing Poverty: The Hidden World of Fast Fashion and Second-Hand Clothes, Katekani Moreku, a South African fashion designer who uses discarded clothing to create new garments, and Julie Wainwright, founder and CEO of The RealReal, a business focused on luxury consignment.

Broken Nature | Should Secondhand Be Our First Choice?

Showing up in food, cosmetics, fuel, medicine, and even the air we breathe, corn has become one of the most ubiquitous presences in our lives. In this episode of The Broken Nature Series, host Paola Antonelli talked to Bex, who runs the blog Corn Allergy Girl, cultural anthropologist Alyshia Galvez, and community organizers Yira Vallejo and Jonathan Barbieri about the proliferation of corn and its consequences for our health, environment, and communities. For more about the guests in this episode, visit moma.org/magazine

Showing up in food, cosmetics, fuel, medicine, and even the air we breathe, corn has become one of the most ubiquitous presences in our lives. In this episode of The Broken Nature Series, host Paola Antonelli talked to Bex, who runs the blog Corn Allergy Girl, cultural anthropologist Alyshia Galvez, and community organizers Yira Vallejo and Jonathan Barbieri about the proliferation of corn and its consequences for our health, environment, and communities. For more about the guests in this episode, visit <a href="http://moma.org/magazine" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">moma.org/magazine</a>

Broken Nature | Is Corn Feeding a Lie?

What are some of the most urgent challenges facing our planet? And how can design help us meet them? Join Paola Antonelli, senior curator of architecture and design at MoMA, for Broken Nature, a four-episode podcast series in conjunction with MoMA’s current exhibition, that explores our fragile but fundamental ties to the rest of nature and the world around us. Antonelli and her guests—bloggers, anthropologists, judges, entrepreneurs, and more—will look at systems that sustain and permeate our lives, from food to fashion and the law, and ask how we might redesign them to make them fairer to all humans and other species. Join us next Monday, April 26, for the launch of Episode 1: Is Corn Feeding a Lie?

What are some of the most urgent challenges facing our planet? And how can design help us meet them? Join Paola Antonelli, senior curator of architecture and design at MoMA, for Broken Nature, a four-episode podcast series in conjunction with MoMA’s <a href="https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5220" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">current exhibition</a>, that explores our fragile but fundamental ties to the rest of nature and the world around us. Antonelli and her guests—bloggers, anthropologists, judges, entrepreneurs, and more—will look at systems that sustain and permeate our lives, from food to fashion and the law, and ask how we might redesign them to make them fairer to all humans and other species. Join us next Monday, April 26, for the launch of Episode 1: Is Corn Feeding a Lie?

Introducing The Broken Nature Podcast

MoMA PS1’s new exhibition Marking Time: Art in the Age of Mass Incarceration features artists who were incarcerated or impacted by the US prison system, and who address these issues in their work. In this episode, Dr. Nicole Fleetwood speaks with artists James Hough, Rowan Renee, Mary Enoch Elizabeth Baxter aka Isis tha Saviour, and Halim Flowers about the relationship between art and freedom, the failures of the American justice system, and their visions for a future without prisons.

MoMA PS1’s new exhibition <a href="https://bookshop.org/books/marking-time-art-in-the-age-of-mass-incarceration/9780674919228?aid=1934" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Marking Time: Art in the Age of Mass Incarceration </a>features artists who were incarcerated or impacted by the US prison system, and who address these issues in their work. In this episode, Dr. Nicole Fleetwood speaks with artists James Hough, Rowan Renee, Mary Enoch Elizabeth Baxter aka Isis tha Saviour, and Halim Flowers about the relationship between art and freedom, the failures of the American justice system, and their visions for a future without prisons.

The Voices of "Marking Time"

Raquel Willis

Muhammed Fayaz

Ceyenne Doroshow

On June 14, in the midst of the Black Lives Matter protests and the COVID 19 pandemic, more than 15,000 people gathered in front of the Brooklyn Museum in New York City to protest the violence, harassment, and discrimination faced by Black trans people in the United States. The Brooklyn Liberation march, the brainchild of drag queen West Dakota, turned out to be the largest event for Black trans rights in history. Last month, Alex Halberstadt spoke over Zoom to four people with key roles in the event: West Dakota, who tells us what nightlife and political organizing have in common; Mohammed Fayaz, whose images work as a call to community; Ceyenne Doroshow, who looks back with decades of perspective; and Raquel Willis, who gave one of the day’s most powerful speeches. He asked them to reflect on this historic event, how it fits into the larger struggle for equity and justice, and the future of Black trans people in this country.

Black Trans Futures ft: West Dakota, Raquel Willis, Muhammed Fayaz, and Ceyenne Doroshow

Harry Belafonte

Charles White

Harry Belafonte once wrote that artist Charles White's work “is a testimony to the vitality of American culture.” In this conversation with WQXR host Terrance McKnight, who worked with curator Esther Adler to select music and other audio for Charles White: A Retrospective, Belafonte describes his relationship with White and their commitment to celebrating and advancing black culture.

Harry Belafonte once wrote that artist Charles White's work “is a testimony to the vitality of American culture.” In this conversation with WQXR host Terrance McKnight, who worked with curator Esther Adler to select music and other audio for <a href="https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/3930" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Charles White: A Retrospective</a>, Belafonte describes his relationship with White and their commitment to celebrating and advancing black culture.

Harry Belafonte on Charles White

The MoMA Magazine Podcast

After 50 years of making music, singer, songwriter, and composer Beverly Glenn-Copeland's genre-bending compositions are finally being celebrated. When he left New York in the early 1960s, he believed the future he was fixated on could not exist for him in the US. Copeland, a transgender black man whose obscure electronic sound and non-binary beliefs were ahead of their time, continued to create music from abroad while acting on the Canadian children’s show Mr. Dressup and writing for Sesame Street. On this episode of MoMA’s Magazine Podcast, Taja Cheek, assistant curator at MoMA PS1, sat down with Copeland the day after his sold out VW Sunday Sessions performance at MoMA PS1, to discuss his first return to the US in over 50 years, his father’s piano, and why he considers himself a grandparent to young creatives.

After 50 years of making music, singer, songwriter, and composer Beverly Glenn-Copeland's genre-bending compositions are finally being celebrated. When he left New York in the early 1960s, he believed the future he was fixated on could not exist for him in the US. Copeland, a transgender black man whose obscure electronic sound and non-binary beliefs were ahead of their time, continued to create music from abroad while acting on the Canadian children’s show Mr. Dressup and writing for Sesame Street. On this episode of MoMA’s Magazine Podcast, Taja Cheek, assistant curator at MoMA PS1, sat down with Copeland the day after his sold out <a href="https://www.moma.org/calendar/programs/180" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">VW Sunday Sessions</a> performance at MoMA PS1, to discuss his first return to the US in over 50 years, his father’s piano, and why he considers himself a grandparent to young creatives.

Beverly Glenn-Copeland’s Return

Love can be complicated, messy, and inspiring—and has shaped the history of art more than we knew. In this episode of the Magazine podcast, we’re bringing love stories to light. From Robert Mapplethorpe and Patti Smith, who “felt magnified” by one another as struggling young artists in New York; to a recent love story sparked at the Museum; to Felix Gonzalez-Torres, who found that love could conquer fate and even death, these stories prove that love can mean many things, and each definition can affect the way we make, view, and understand art.

Love can be complicated, messy, and inspiring—and has shaped the history of art more than we knew. In this episode of the Magazine podcast, we’re bringing love stories to light. From Robert Mapplethorpe and Patti Smith, who “felt magnified” by one another as struggling young artists in New York; to a recent love story sparked at the Museum; to Felix Gonzalez-Torres, who found that love could conquer fate and even death, these stories prove that love can mean many things, and each definition can affect the way we make, view, and understand art.

Must Love Art

Florine Stettheimer

Many mysteries surround Florine Stettheimer’s Four Panel Screen: its title, the date it was made, and even how it should be displayed. In the latest episode of the Magazine podcast, we spoke to the team that rediscovered this work in MoMA’s storage facility, including senior curator Anne Umland, curatorial assistant Jenny Harris, and curatorial fellow Charmaine Branch. Senior conservator Anny Aviram joined the conversation to detail the extensive efforts made to restore the work after years in storage. Hear more about this work, the world of Stettheimer, and the journey to document and uncover the many lives of her Four Panel Screen.

Many mysteries surround Florine Stettheimer’s Four Panel Screen: its title, the date it was made, and even how it should be displayed. In the latest episode of the Magazine podcast, we spoke to the team that rediscovered this work in MoMA’s storage facility, including senior curator Anne Umland, curatorial assistant Jenny Harris, and curatorial fellow Charmaine Branch. Senior conservator Anny Aviram joined the conversation to detail the extensive efforts made to restore the work after years in storage. Hear more about this work, <a href="https://www.moma.org/calendar/galleries/5105" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">the world of Stettheimer</a>, and the journey to document and uncover the many lives of her Four Panel Screen.

From Storage to Gallery: Florine Stettheimer’s "Four Panel Screen"

John Cassavetes

In 1980, MoMA’s senior film curator Laurence Kardish organized a comprehensive retrospective of actor/director John Cassavetes’s career. The retrospective gave a second life to underseen films like Opening Night and offered a holistic overview of an artist that, as Kardish puts it, describes “the whole glorious arc of American cinema.” In this podcast episode, we spoke to Kardish and Rajendra Roy, MoMA’s Celeste Bartos Chief Curator of Film, about Cassavetes and his relationship with MoMA.

In 1980, MoMA’s senior film curator Laurence Kardish organized a <a href="https://www.moma.org/momaorg/shared/pdfs/docs/press_archives/5830/releases/MOMA_1980_0033_36.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">comprehensive retrospective</a> of actor/director John Cassavetes’s career. The retrospective gave a second life to underseen films like Opening Night and offered a holistic overview of an artist that, as Kardish puts it, describes “the whole glorious arc of American cinema.” In this podcast episode, we spoke to Kardish and Rajendra Roy, MoMA’s Celeste Bartos Chief Curator of Film, about Cassavetes and his relationship with MoMA.

Declaration of Independents: John Cassavetes

Saidiya Hartman

For our first installment of Books that Matter, we read Saidiya Hartman’s Wayward Lives, Beautiful Experiments (2019). Hartman is a professor in the Department of English and Comparative Literature at Columbia University. For the last few decades, she’s been writing about and analyzing the afterlife of slavery in such books as Lose Your Mother: A Journey Along the Atlantic Slave Route (2007) and Scenes of Subjection: Terror, Slavery, and Self-Making in Nineteenth-Century America (1997). Her most recent book, Wayward Lives, follows the lives of young black women at the beginning of the 20th century in New York and Philadelphia, and the ways that they tried to break free from imposed and invisible forms of servitude. It’s unlike any history book we’ve read before.

For our first installment of Books that Matter, we read Saidiya Hartman’s Wayward Lives, Beautiful Experiments (2019). Hartman is a professor in the Department of English and Comparative Literature at Columbia University. For the last few decades, she’s been writing about and analyzing the afterlife of slavery in such books as Lose Your Mother: A Journey Along the Atlantic Slave Route (2007) and Scenes of Subjection: Terror, Slavery, and Self-Making in Nineteenth-Century America (1997). Her most recent book, Wayward Lives, follows the lives of young black women at the beginning of the 20th century in New York and Philadelphia, and the ways that they tried to break free from imposed and invisible forms of servitude. It’s unlike any history book we’ve read before.

Books that Matter: Saidiya Hartman’s Wayward Lives, Beautiful Experiments

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