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Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl

Drink Beer, Think Beer is a weekly conversation with brewers, growers, and other brewing industry professionals that explores the art, culture, and business of craft beer. Hosted by John Holl and recorded on location, this podcast gets to the bottom of every pint and offers insight into the dynamic world of beer.

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Ep. 32 - Sean Lawson of Lawson's Finest Liquids

A few words from host John Holl: "Our guest this week is Sean Lawson of Lawson's Finest Liquids. There are some beers that just stand out among the others. It’s not all marketing, because those beers that are all flash and no substance don’t seem to last too long in the craft beer space.  So the beers that can capture the imagination and get us standing in lines, or having friends mule some back home, are ones that usually have some oomph behind them. It’s not easy and there aren’t many of these beers, but one brewery that has seemed to capture all the attributes well is Lawson’s Finest Liquids.  Sean Lawson, now the CEO and founding brewer of the brewery that bears his name, is known for making hoppy beers and he does them well. But he also experiments with native ingredients, and has the mentality of a scientist and architect when it comes to creating a new beer.He’s a fellow Jersey guy who found his way up north and started the brewery at his house years ago, getting drinkers excited for drops in his adopted home state of Vermont. From there he expanded and started contract brewing at Two Roads Brewing Company in Connecticut before launching his very own commercially accessible brewery and taproom about a year ago. And because it helps track the evolution of the brewery, that’s where I started with him."For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Host: John Holl Guest: Sean Lawson of Lawson's Finest Liquids Tags: Beer, Craft Beer, Vermont, Homebrewing, New Jersey, IPA, Pale Ale, Special Ingredients, and taprooms. This episode is sponsored by: New Holland BrewingDragon's Milk began as a single barrel experiment almost 20 years ago at New Holland Brewing Company, and has since grown to become the best-selling American made stout. Aged for at least 90 days in bourbon barrels, rich notes of roasted malt, chocolate, and vanilla make for a deliciously smooth and drinkable brew. Whether it's sitting by a bonfire, or virtually toasting over Zoom, share a legend with Dragon's Milk today. Learn More at DragonsMilk.com Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer ProfessionalsHelp support journalism covering the beer industry by subscribing to the twice weekly newsletter. Learn more at our revamped website. 

50mins

13 May 2020

Rank #1

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Ep. 22 - Jason Perkins of Allagash Brewing Company

What is a brewery made of? What's in its soul? For many breweries in the United States, the answer seems to be hops. That's an understandable response given the rise of the craft beer movement on the backs of lupulin. At Allagash Brewing in Portland, Maine, the brewmaster, Jason Perkins, believes in yeast. That makes sense given the brewery's growth and popularity on the back of its White Ale. That beer has become an American classic, serving as a gateway for many into craft beer. In this conversation, recorded at Allagash, Perkins talks about how the brewery looks at innovation, considers ingredients, and runs trials to find out which beers will join White representing the company to the public. Perkins' role with the brewery has grown over the years and he talks about that evolution and just what it means to be the brewmaster of one of the country's larger and certainly more beloved breweries. For those looking for insights into the soul of Allagash, you've come to the right place. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Host: John Holl Guest: Jason Perkins of Allagash Brewing Sponsor: Cigar City Brewing  Tags: beer, craft beer, Maine, White Ale, spontaneous, coolship, yeast, brewmaster, sustainability, Portland, tradition, spices, hops,  Advertising: Ryan Newhouse, Ryan@beeredge.com 

32mins

4 Mar 2020

Rank #2

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Ep. 31 - Marika Josephson of Scratch Brewing Co.

Spring is a time of growth, change, and an opportunity to get back into nature. Because of COVID-19 related restrictions, it might be tough to get fully out to nature, but for those with yards and local parks or forests, there's a chance to plant gardens of our own or get out and see the budding plants and trees. From host John Holl: "We moved into a new house last year and I have a proper yard for the first time in a long time, so I’ve been thinking a lot about planting. I’m going to start out easy with some of the more common vegetables and herbs, like tomato, basil and hot peppers. And if we get a decent harvest I will jar up some pasta sauce, make some hot sauce, and dry out the rest of the herbs. I’ve also been baking a bunch over the last few weeks of COVID-19. I haven’t gone down the sourdough starter hole... yet. But, I’m working towards that.  In thinking about food that comes from the ground and real bread that takes time, plus, drinking a lot of beer, I thought of Scratch Brewing in Ava, Illinois. So, I called up Marika Josephson one of the founders to talk about foraging, brewing with local ingredients, and reviving some long-forgotten processes to make some of the more interesting beers in America today.  Scratch Brewing Company is a farmhouse brewery located five miles from the Shawnee National Forest in Ava, Illinois. It is owned by Josephson and Aaron Kleidon and focuses on styles brewed with home grown and locally farmed and foraged ingredients. The brewery has an ever rotating selection of styles enhanced by the innovative addition of local ingredients, such as nettle, elderberry, ginger, dandelion, maple sap, hickory, lavender, juniper, and chanterelle mushrooms, according to its website.   Scratch Brewing is big on showcasing the 'terroir' of southern Illinois. And that is highlighted in their restaurant on site as well. As drinkers, we often get caught up in styles and the samey flavors that come with IPA or certain hop combinations, that beers like the ones Scratch produces are refreshing and can really open up the mind to what is possible in brewing, even if It comes from our own back yard." May is here. What better time to think about growth than right now. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Host: John Holl Guest: Marika Josephson of Scratch Brewing Co.  Tags: Beer, Scratch Brewing, Craft Beer, nature, foraged beer, dandelion, mushrooms, herbs, wood, small batch beer, Illinois beer This episode is sponsored by: New Holland BrewingDragon's Milk began as a single barrel experiment almost 20 years ago at New Holland Brewing Company, and has since grown to become the best-selling American made stout. Aged for at least 90 days in bourbon barrels, rich notes of roasted malt, chocolate, and vanilla make for a deliciously smooth and drinkable brew. Whether it's sitting by a bonfire, or virtually toasting over Zoom, share a legend with Dragon's Milk today. Learn More at DragonsMilk.com Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer ProfessionalsHelp support journalism covering the beer industry by subscribing to the twice weekly newsletter. Learn more at our revamped website. 

46mins

6 May 2020

Rank #3

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Ep. 6 - Samantha Lee and Stephen Bossu of Hopewell Brewing

Since the 2016 presidential election, politics has dominated the national conversation and it’s not always polite. Businesses of all sizes have struggled to maintain the right tone when talking about their political beliefs, if they do it at all, for fear of alienating customers.  So when John Holl sat down with Samantha Lee and Stephen Bossu of Hopewell Brewing a few weeks ago, he was surprised at how candid they were about politics and their beliefs. But, it became clear pretty quickly that their beliefs, backgrounds, and passions are what make Hopewell the brewery it is.  And don’t worry. They talk about the beer as well. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Hosted By: John Holl Guests: Samantha Lee and Stephen Bossu of Hopewell Brewing Sponsor: Cigar City Brewing  Tags: beer, Illinois, craft beer, lager, politics, natural wine, Chicago, community action

54mins

20 Nov 2019

Rank #4

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Ep. 21 - Rudi Ghequire of Rodenbach and Sam Calagione of Dogfish Head

Collaboration beers are a fun exercise. They usually allow two breweries to get out of their comfort zones and try to create something that will create a buzz among drinkers. Two of the world’s better known breweries got together more than two years ago to start talking about a collaboration and the result has just been released.  It’s called Vibrant P’Ocean, a 4.7% ABV blended sour ale created by Rodenbach, the famed Belgian brewer and blender, and Dogfish Head, a brewery that has long been at the forefront of brewing creativity.  Host John Holl sat down recently with Ghequire and Calagione to talk about their collaboration, how they approached the beer, the result, and what beers like this mean for the industry overall. What it revealed was an approach beyond just using the strengths of the breweries but also creating something that will appeal to today's drinkers while not doing harm to beers that each already have on the shelves.  For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Hosted By: John Holl Guests: Rudi Ghequire and Sam Calagione Sponsor: Cigar City Brewing  Tags: beer, craft beer, collaboration, Dogfish Head, Rodenbach, sour ale, Belgian style, history, salt, elderberry

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26 Feb 2020

Rank #5

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Ep. 30 - Mitch Ermatinger of Speciation Artisan Ales

A note from John Holl about this week's episode:"The weather is starting to change for the better here in the northeast and as I look out of the window of the home office I can see the leaves on the trees grow faster by the day, spilling out vibrant green. The neighbors have a bright pink flowering bush across the street, and the birds have returned to the feeder.  While it’s been raining a lot, my thoughts have drifted to the first good day when I can sit outside and open a bottle of beer and just relax, and in that scenario I’ve been thinking about mixed fermentation. Beers from nature are great when they can be enjoyed in nature, even if it’s just a back yard.  When it comes to finding out what is happening in the world of spontaneous or natural beer, Mitch Ermatinger is who I like to call.  He got started in beer working at a homebrewing supply store in his home town of Grand Rapids Michigan before heading west to Denver where he worked for Black Project, way back when it was known as Former Future.  Inspired by the process, he moved back home and in 2017 opened Speciation Artisan Ales, where he first started on mixed fermentation beers, and then moved into natural wines, and his own twist on hard seltzers.  I’ve known Mitch for a few years now, often seeing him at festivals around the country. Knowing that it might be a while before we’re both in the same place again, I settled for calling him up.  Turns out we’re in a similar situation. We both have young kids, so the best time to talk was during their nap time, which conveniently synced up.  We cover a lot in a short period of time, but I started by asking him on his take of where mixed fermentation brewing in America stands right now.  I hope you enjoy the conversation."  For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Host: John Holl Guest: Mitch Ermatinger of Speciation Artisan Ales Tags: Beer, Craft Beer, Natural Wine, Michigan, Grand Rapids, Hard Seltzer, Mixed Fermentation, Spontaneous This episode is sponsored by: New Holland BrewingDragon's Milk began as a single barrel experiment almost 20 years ago at New Holland Brewing Company, and has since grown to become the best-selling American made stout. Aged for at least 90 days in bourbon barrels, rich notes of roasted malt, chocolate, and vanilla make for a deliciously smooth and drinkable brew. Whether it's sitting by a bonfire, or virtually toasting over Zoom, share a legend with Dragon's Milk today. Learn More at DragonsMilk.com Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer ProfessionalsHelp support journalism covering the beer industry by subscribing to the twice weekly newsletter. Learn more at our revamped website. 

54mins

29 Apr 2020

Rank #6

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Ep. 27 - Karen Hertz & Brian Kulbacki on the State of Gluten Free Beer

The interview for this week's episode was recorded only about a month ago, but it was a simpler time. At the regular table at the (now temporarily closed) Blind Tiger Ale House in New York City host John Holl sat down with two brewers and owners of breweries specializing in gluten free beer. Karen Hertz, the owner of Holidaily Brewing Company in Colorado was in the city for a women in beer event hosted by the Brewers Association. Holidaily is a dedicated gluten free brewery that has been working to change the perception of what gluten free means in beer.  Now most long time beer drinkers can tell you all about the good, bad, and strange of gluten free beers. A decade ago, it was the sorghum ales made by the big breweries, and then we started to see others, like Omission, part of the Craft Brew Alliance, make inroads. Other breweries, like Dogfish Head, tried making them with honey and there were other attempts along the way. Some drink gluten free beer because of dietary sensitivities or lifestyle choices. Others just because they enjoy it. Overall the nature of gluten free beer has changed in the last several years and there are a handful of breweries that are working hard to change past perceptions and to bring these beers into the mainstream consciousness of all drinkers. We decided to get check on the current state of gluten free beers, so with Hertz in town, Drink Beer, Think Beer asked Brian Kulbacki of Departed Soles in Jersey City to cross the Hudson River and join us at that corner table at the Tiger so they could both share perspective, give insight to how their breweries operate, and how they approach recipe development. The conversation starts in broad terms and narrows in from there. We hope you leave the end of this show a better informed drinker, we sure did. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Host: John Holl Guests: Karen Hertz and Brian Kulbacki Tags: beer, craft beer, New Jersey, gluten free beers, Holidaily Brewing Company, Departed Soles 

49mins

8 Apr 2020

Rank #7

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Ep. 29 - Ethan Tripp of Fermentery Form

Ethan Tripp was a homebrewer before he went pro, but from an early point in his career he decided that he was going to take his time both with opening his own place (with friends, of course) and the beers he wanted to make.  He wants to make deliberate beers that are rooted in tradition but also isn’t afraid of trying new things or using different ingredients to see how they develop. Time seems to move slowly here at Fermentery Form and that’s by design. Tripp has had to learn patience, and that’s something regular fans of his beer have had to practice as well, since not everything is always available when they might want it.  Host John Holl visited the Philadelphia barrel room in late February 2020 and recorded in the blendery’s tiny tasting room well before the world went into isolation. Tripp opened some beers that are dear to his heart and also showcase the real talent he has for creating something special inside a green bottle.  It’s not a brewery. That’s important to note. So what is it, you might ask? Holl wondered the same thing and that’s where the conversation started.  For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Host: John Holl Guest: Ethan Tripp, Fermentery Form Tags: Beer, Craft Beer, Belgium, Philadelphia, Bottle Openers, Green Glass, Tradition.  This episode is sponsored by: New Holland BrewingDragon's Milk began as a single barrel experiment almost 20 years ago at New Holland Brewing Company, and has since grown to become the best-selling American made stout. Aged for at least 90 days in bourbon barrels, rich notes of roasted malt, chocolate, and vanilla make for a deliciously smooth and drinkable brew. Whether it's sitting by a bonfire, or virtually toasting over Zoom, share a legend with Dragon's Milk today. Learn More at DragonsMilk.com SweetWater Brewing SweetWater has been independently brewing tasty brews in the heart of Atlanta since 1997. Next time you’re stocking up on essentials, grab a six or 12 pack of the always fresh, always heady OG SweetWater IPA – “the one in the yellow pack” lays down hints of grapefruit and pine on the palate, with a clean and bright finish….it’s the go-to brew you order without having to look at the menu. Need something easy drinking? Reach for the classic 420 Extra Pale Ale, tried, tested and true – a tasty west coast style extra pale ale with a stimulating hop character and finishes with nice, clean crisp taste. The world might be on fire but you can’t go wrong with a couple craft OG’s from SweetWater.Hit up their beer finder at sweetwaterbrew.com/find Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer ProfessionalsHelp support journalism covering the beer industry by subscribing to the twice weekly newsletter. Learn more at our revamped website. 

46mins

22 Apr 2020

Rank #8

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Ep. 4 - Evan Watson of Plan Bee Farm Brewery

Evan Watson is a farmer, brewer, musician, athlete, and all around thoughtful guy. When host John Holl showed up at the Plan Bee Farm Brewery in New York’s Hudson Valley a few weeks back, Watson was holding an axe in one hand and a magnum bottle of barn beer in the other. After sabering open the bottle, and pouring two glasses, Watson showed off the farm, including acres of heirloom corn he is growing and that will go into his beers. Watson talks about inspiration, music, and how he is still trying to figure out his place in the brewing industry all while staying true to his art. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Hosted By: John Holl Guest: Evan Watson, Plan Bee Farm Brewery Sponsors: Tavour and Deschutes Brewery Tags: New York, craft beer, lager, farming, music, hops, bees, honey, coolship

56mins

13 Nov 2019

Rank #9

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Ep. 24 - Patrick Rue of the Bruery

Unless you live under a rock and this podcast is the only way you get your news, you know that we’re in the middle of a global pandemic for the COVID-19 virus.  Seems like not too long ago there were memes about Corona bottles wearing surgical masks and now we’re being asked to isolate at home. It’s a real threat that has come to our states and towns and it’s having a huge impact on the brewing industry.  Breweries are being shut down and prohibited from operating their taprooms. Some are offering to go options to help bring some money in from the lost business. Others have already laid off or furloughed employees.  Conferences like the annual Craft Brewers Conference and bi-annual World Beer Cup have been called off for this year. Festivals like Hunahpu's were canceled.  It’s going to get worse.As the economy suffers and more virus cases come to light, breweries could stay closed for weeks, months, or forever.  The news is moving fast so it seemed odd to do just a regular show this week, so we are switching it up.  Host John Holl has been talking with brewers from around the country as part of the Beer Edge coverage and has recorded a few of the interviews. This episode starts with Patrick Rue from The Bruery.  Then Andy Crouch chimes in with an interview he did with attorney Michael Boyer.  After that the show heads down south to talk with Sean Lilly Wilson of Fullsteam Brewery and then wraps up welcoming back Andy so he and John can talk about what we have planned going forward – not only for this show but for Beer Edge coverage in general. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Host: John Holl Guests: Patrick Rue, Andy Crouch, Sean Lilly Wilson, and Michael Boyer Tags: beer, craft beer, legal, COVID-19, California, North Carolina, News

43mins

18 Mar 2020

Rank #10

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Ep. 23 - Ting Su of Eagle Rock Brewery

What was the beer scene like in Los Angeles when Ting Su opened up Eagle Rock Brewery with her husband and father-in-law a decade ago?  She describes it as non-existent and an uphill climb to get customers to try small batch beer made-in house. Like so many others, they found that the success came through education and that has been a key hallmark to the brewery’s growth and expansion. By breaking down beer flavors, explaining ingredients, and giving patrons – especially women – a place to come and learn without pretense.  This is done through a monthly women’s forum where no matter the level of beer comfort all are welcome to come on the third Wednesday of the month to learn more about the combination of water, grain, hops, and yeast.  In this conversation, recorded at New York’s Blind Tiger Ale House, Su talks about the role and importance of education and inclusivity, how the brewery approaches growth, and lessons learned over the last decade.  For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Host: John Holl Guest: Ting Su of Eagle Rock Brewery Sponsor: Cigar City Brewing  Tags: beer, craft beer, education, Los Angeles, Restaurants, IPA, bombers, cans, women,  Advertising: Ryan Newhouse, Ryan@beeredge.com 

51mins

11 Mar 2020

Rank #11

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Ep. 3 - Garrett Marrero of Maui Brewing Company

What’s in a title? For Garrett Marrero, the CEO of Maui Brewing Company it’s the latest in an evolution of his company that started off as a small brewpub and now is a major beverage company making not just beer but coffee, spirits, and hard seltzer. Recorded at the Falling Rock Tap House during the Great American Beer Festival, Marrero talks about his early days in brewing, his push towards sustainable technology, and the importance of being local on Hawaii. Although beer is central to the company’s success, he is also open about embracing other beverages for the sake of diversity and to grow his company. There are hard lessons to be learned as the owner of a company and anyone thinking about jumping into the beer industry should give this a listen. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Hosted By: John Holl Guest: Garrett Marrero, Maui Brewing Company Sponsor: Deschutes Brewery Tags: beer, Hawaii, craft beer, lager, hops, hard seltzer, green technology

47mins

13 Nov 2019

Rank #12

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Ep. 26 - This Week in Rauchbier

If this episode of This Week in Rauchbier sounds a little different this week it is because we’re not at our normal smokey studio inside of Dovetail Brewing in Chicago. The Coronavirus has us all spread out and bunkered down. Hagan and Bill are off this week, rooting through their beer cellars no doubt looking for some ruby hued ashy delights.  But that’s not going to stop us from having a bang up of a show.  Bart Watson of the Brewers Association will be joining us to talk about the smoked beer stats we all look forward to each week.  A new writer by the name of Lew Bryson will tell us all about his books regarding whisky and how there are even some kinds that incorporate smoke flavor into their recipes.  And long time favorite guest and co-author of the world-wide best selling book Smoked Beers – Ray Daniels -  will get on the phone with us for a reminder on the history and importance of rauchbiers.  But first, because so many people have been asking us to have him on as a guest to give his take on smoked beers, we decided a pandemic was the right time to do it. For this week’s “Why I love Rauchbier” Segment we invited noted beer villain and Twitter enthusiast Andrew Crouch, Esq. to record a radio essay. Our thanks to Hagen and Bill for the inspiration to do this show. Hear the genesis on episode 5 of Drink Beer, Think Beer. Music for this episode:NewsSting by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4124-newsstingLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Host: John Holl Guests: Andy Crouch, Bart Watson, Ray Daniels, Lew Bryson Tags: beer, craft beer, rauchbier, smoke, April Fool's Day

35mins

1 Apr 2020

Rank #13

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Ep. 28 - Pete Slosberg of Pete's Wicked

A note from host John Holl:I’ve been sitting on this interview for a few months now. It features Pete Slosberg, the co-founder of Pete’s Wicked, a brewery and brand that helped shape the course of craft beer as we know it today.  In an industry that would become known for a lot of big personalities and members of the first name club, Pete was a trailblazer. His Pete’s Wicked Brand was on the radio, in advertisements and thanks to beer recipes that delivered on flavor as well as lifestyle, he led legions of fans into craft.  Then it was gone.  This conversation was recorded towards the end of 2019 in Belgium while we both were judging the Brussels Beer Challenge and Pete leads me through the founding of the brewery, the early days, the big plans that never happened, and the eventual sale of the company.  Towards the end he offers up his insight on what to do when something ends.  It seems apt for a lot of breweries these days that are facing hardships like never before. Sometimes things end. Sometimes it’s out of your control, sometimes it’s a hard decision that has to come personally.  No matter the case, Pete, who now works with small companies, has some advice for anyone who runs a brewery. And for us fans, I think his words help us understand how the beer industry works and lets us walk a mile in someone else’s shoes.  Everything starts at the beginning, so that’s where I started with him, early on a Sunday morning in a tiny hotel room at an even smaller table."For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Host: John Holl Guest: Pete Slosberg Tags: Beer, Craft Beer, Business, Chocolate, Belgium, Travel, South America, 

40mins

15 Apr 2020

Rank #14

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Ep. 25 - Preston Theony and Luke Wortendyke of Wren House Brewing

In an effort to bring some normalcy to this crazy world and to give you a respite from all of the COVID-19 news, we're bringing back the regular format of the show. This week is a conversation with Preston Theony and Luke Wortendyke of Wren House Brewing recorded in early February in Phoenix. Theony is a co-founder and head brewer and Wortendyke is the lead brewer and, as you'll hear, making beers with a local focus is a big thing at the brewery. They care about finding the terroir of Arizona and translating that into a glass. This means brewing with everything from local produce to working with a nearby maltster. For a state with a still growing beer culture this brings a real sense of place to the beers. The conversation ping pongs around to talk about IPAs and their fondness for big beers, including a ridiculous beer that they made for the Arizona Strong Beer Festival. But gimmicks aside, the brewery also wants their taproom to be a welcoming space. It's not your typical warehouse location and they have worked to create an environment that fosters a sense of peace and encourages conversation. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Host: John Holl Guests: Preston Theony and Luke Wortendyke Tags: beer, craft beer, Arizona, Craft Malts, IPA, hops, customers, taprooms 

35mins

25 Mar 2020

Rank #15

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Ep. 7 - Chad Henderson of NoDa Brewing

This week John Holl is joined by Chad Henderson and Charles Willett of NoDa Brewing. We got together a few weeks back during the Great American Beer Festival in the basement of famed Beer Bar Falling Rock. Chad goes by head brewer and co-owner and Willet is the brewery’s controller.  In thinking about this episode, Holl says he's "always struck, when talking with brewers, about how the littlest thing can happen and change the trajectory of a life, often to the benefit of us drinkers as well.  On this episode, we talked about how changes in the law in North Carolina a few years back helped pave the way for the brewery, and how a simple conversation at a the Denver Rare Beer Tasting event helped Chad peruse his dream of brewing.For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Hosted By: John Holl Guests: Chad Henderson and Charles Willett of NoDa Brewing Sponsor: Cigar City Brewing  Tags: beer, craft beer, beer laws, politics, North Carolina, community action

52mins

27 Nov 2019

Rank #16

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Ep. 5 - Bill Wesselink and Hagen Dost of Dovetail Brewery

Strap in folks, because this week it’s Hagen Dost and Bill Wesselink of Chicago’s Dovetail Brewery. There are no secrets in the brewhouse and the pair who met in brewing school and opened up a house of lager in Chicago a few years ago are ready to discuss it all. From how they brew a rauchbier to the equipment they have acquired from around the world to how they approach creating a recipe from the water up, the duo go deep on brewing passion. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Hosted By: John Holl Guest: Hagen Dost and Bill Wesselink, Dovetail Brewery Sponsor: Deschutes Brewery Tags: beer, Illinois, craft beer, lager, rauchbier, kriek, Chicago, brewing education

51mins

13 Nov 2019

Rank #17

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Ep. 62- Laura Ulrich of Stone Brewing

Laura Ulrich is the small batch brewer at Stone Brewing Co. and is our guest today. Yes, Stone Brewing is one of the larger craft breweries in America, and has succeeded over the years with in-your-face marketing and a fondness for West Coast IPA. But like most breweries their size, there is a smaller component, experimental batches that might one day become larger releases, but that serve the pubs or speciality accounts.  What’s it like, warts and all, to have a job where the beer carries a familiar brand name, but the liquid might not be what some customers expect? We’ll get into it.  Then we’re talking about Pink Boots, where Laura serves as president of the organization. From how she came be involved from the start, to its evolution, and where she would like to see it go.  Education is key to elevating the whole segment, something the organization has put front and center. Get a beer and listen along. This is a fun conversation. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Host: John Holl Guest: Laura Ulrich of Stone Brewing  Sponsor: Cigar City Brewing  Tags: beer, craft beer, California, Stone, IPA, Experimental Brewing, Stout, Pink Boots Society This episode is sponsored by: Cigar City BrewingCentral to Mayan mythology is the story of twin brothers named Xbalanque and Hunahpu, the Hero Twins. After the Twins’ father was murdered by evil deities from Xibalba, his corpse became a cacao tree that spawned our two Heroes. Epic adventures followed, culminating in a journey to Xibalba to avenge their father’s death. Vanquishing their enemies handily, the Heroes then ascended unto the heavens where they became the sun and the moon

54mins

9 Dec 2020

Rank #18

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Ep. 38 - Libby Crider of 2nd Shift Brewing

Since founding 2nd Shift Brewing in Missouri a decade ago, Libby and Steve Crider have been through a lot of growth, a full brewery move, and the start of their family. Throughout it all, Libby Crider has worked to become an engaged business owner without compromising personal beliefs.  Like so many breweries in the country COVID-19 plunged the brewery into “chaos” but as summer begins, the brewery in St. Louis is looking to welcome back patrons and to keep fighting on. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Host: John Holl Guest: Libby Crider of 2nd Shift Brewing Tags: Beer, Craft Beer, Missouri, COVID-19, Twitter, Taprooms This episode is sponsored by: Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer ProfessionalsHelp support journalism covering the beer industry by subscribing to the twice weekly newsletter. Learn more at our revamped website. 

37mins

24 Jun 2020

Rank #19

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Ep. 37 - Geoff and Marcy Larson of Alaskan Brewing Company

With over 8,000 breweries in the country it can be easy to overlook the early pioneers, regardless of how big they are and how ubiquitous their beers are. So, when a bottle of Alaskan Amber showed up unexpectedly at host John Holl's house recently he wanted to catch up with the brewery's founders. From talking about the early days of sourcing ingredients for historical recipes to beers that they hoped would take off but did not, Geoff and Marcy Larson talk about their brewery, what brought them to Alaska, and how it has grown over the years. There has obviously been changes to the way the brewery operates in light of COVID-19 and in the wake of recent social justice movements. Geoff Larson talks about his upbringing, before beer, and how it shaped his company's response. And finally we get into smoked beers and how they are under appreciated and how difficult it can be to do historical research into the style. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer or to check out Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer Professionals, follow us on Twitter @thebeeredge and subscribe to our beer industry focused newsletter. There is more information, articles, and engaging content at Beer Edge. Host: John Holl Guests: Geoff and Marcy Larson of Alaskan Brewing Tags: Beer, Craft Beer, Alaska, Amber Ale, IPA, Smoked Beer, History This episode is sponsored by: Beer Edge: The Newsletter for Beer ProfessionalsHelp support journalism covering the beer industry by subscribing to the twice weekly newsletter. Learn more at our revamped website. 

1hr 6mins

17 Jun 2020

Rank #20