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The AAMFT Podcast

The AAMFT Podcast is an all-access pass to the latest news, developments, and thought leaders in the world of systemic therapy. Hosted by Dr. Eli Karam, it strives to relate, educate, and innovate one episode at a time. The episodes explore topics that relationship-based therapists care about, and features unique conversations and interviews with established experts. The show provides information and education on direct practice and emerging trends in the MFT profession.

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Episode 3: David Schnarch

David Schnarch is a world-renown sex and marital therapist. Eli sits down with David and talks about his career and influence on the field. He discusses how failures led him to come up with the crucible approach, and the revolutionary idea that sexual problems are predictable and normal. He considers the essential qualities a therapist should have to effectively practice sex therapy, touching on how his own openness enables his work. David shares his biggest influences and makes a surprising prediction of the path of the next innovation in systemic therapy. Finally, he talks about his next project of utilizing brain-based therapy with high-risk couples.

1hr 3mins

7 Mar 2019

Rank #1

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Episode 20: Preparing for the MFT Licensure Exam

In this episode, Eli sits down with Dr. Jaime Goff and Dr. Sara Blakeslee Salkil to discuss the MFT Licensure exam. Jaime holds a Ph.D. in Couple and Family Therapy from Michigan State University and a Certificate in Executive Coaching from Southern Methodist University. Sara is the program director of the online Master’s in Marriage and Family Therapy program and Assistant Dean of Graduate Studies.First, they share some of the biggest fears and concerns students have surrounding the exam. Then they provide some background information on the exam. They share their best tips and tricks on how to prepare for the exam.  If you are preparing to take the exam, this is the podcast for you!

54mins

13 Dec 2019

Rank #2

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Episode 16: Guy Diamond: Attachment Based Family Therapy

Guy Diamond is the Professor Emeritus at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine and Associate Professor at Drexel University in the College of Nursing and Health Professions. Along with his co-authors, Drs. Gary Diamond and Suzanne Levy, Dr. Diamond has written the first book on ABFT, Attachment-Based Family Therapy for Depressed Adolescents. In this episode, Eli chats with Guy about how he discovered attachment styles and how he would describe his own attachment style based on his family origin. Guy dives into the biggest eye openers and challenges that he faced when he began his career. He then discusses his research findings and how it has benefited the field. Lastly, Guy Diamond talks about his projects and what he hopes to contribute to the future of the field.

54mins

11 Oct 2019

Rank #3

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Episode 12: Diane Gehart: Mindful MFT

Diane Gehart is a professor of Marriage and Family Therapy at California State University Northridge and has practiced psychotherapy for over 15 years. Eli sits down with Diane to discuss mindfulness and the benefits it has in the MFT field. She discusses her career journey and how mindfulness played a part in her career. She provides her definition of mindfulness and differentiates it from other approaches like “flow”. Diane also discusses her approach to teaching mindfulness to her students and their reaction to this approach. Lastly, Diane talks about her thoughts on the future of mindfulness and how it should continue to be integrated in the field.

50mins

9 Aug 2019

Rank #4

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Episode 5: Online Therapy

In this episode, Dr. Eli Karam sits down with Shelly Smith and Jennifer Labanowski to discuss Online Therapy. Online Therapy is one of the most requested topics for discussion in the MFT profession. In this podcast, you will find out the factors that led Shelly and Jennifer to pursue this career after first being skeptical of this type of therapy. They will discuss the four areas of research to know before starting your own online therapy practice like stating up to date on state regulations and some of the ethical implications associated with online therapy . Find out why clients seek out this form of therapy over face to face and what might lead a therapist to choose this form of therapy. Eli dives in to find out more information about online therapy from experts in the field.

1hr 3mins

5 Apr 2019

Rank #5

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Episode 19: Scott Sells: Treating the Traumatized Child

Scott Sells holds a Ph.D. in both Marriage and Family Therapy and Social Work from Florida State University. He has over 20 publications and has authored three books including “Treating the Traumatized Child: A Step-by-Step Family Systems Approach.” Scott specializes in working with impossible or stuck cases whose families have not been successful with other counselors.First, Scott explains what first drew him to the field and how he started as an MFT. He then discusses how he induced the PLL model and the experiences that led to developing it. He gives valuable tips to young therapists including the importance of maintaining balance in your life. In the final moments, Scott gives details about the model and the techniques he uses in his sessions.

42mins

22 Nov 2019

Rank #6

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Episode 17: Toni Zimmerman: Advances in MFT Profession

Dr. Toni Zimmerman is an expert on all things AAMFT Supervision. She has directed the CSU Family Therapy program for almost 25 years. She has won many awards in her academic career and she is a staple in the Fundamentals of Supervision training program at AAMFT. Eli sits down with Toni to discuss the trends in MFT Supervision and her impact in the field. She first discusses her origin story and some of the biggest changes in the field since she started, including a discussion about video supervision. She gives advice to supervisees on how to have difficult conversations with their supervisor when there may be an issue. And she provides tips on how to interview potential Supervisors.Lastly, Toni goes into to details about the AAMFT Approved Supervisor Designation and how it excels over other programs.

46mins

25 Oct 2019

Rank #7

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Episode 13: Michele Weiner - Davis

Michele Weiner-Davis is an internationally renowned relationship expert, best-selling author, and professional speaker that specializes in helping people change their lives and improve important relationships. Eli sits down with Michele and discusses her own struggles that made her a better therapist, parent, and spouse. She discusses her origin story and discusses who her biggest influences were in her career. Michele recalls her own personal experience with receiving therapy and the benefit that it had on her career. Lastly, Michele discusses some of the new programs and books she has coming out that address infidelity in couples.

1hr 6mins

22 Aug 2019

Rank #8

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Episode 6: Bill Doherty

Bill Doherty is an educator, researcher, therapist, speaker, author, consultant, and community organizer. In this episode, he recounts with Eli his experience in the Catholic church and how circumstances including “failed celibacy” led him to leave the priesthood. He shares how his extensive work doing community presentations led to years of interaction with judges and lawyers, eventually creating the discernment counseling model. Bill contemplates the positive directions the field is taking, and some of the necessary downsides including a crucial turning point of the field and an unexpected consequence of the relational, systemic approach. Eli asks a question that gives Bill goosebumps as he contemplates his boundary-pushing career. Finally, he shares a story about a small but significant detail his mom noticed during his appearance on Oprah.

59mins

26 Apr 2019

Rank #9

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Episode 15: Terry Real

Terry Real is the founder of the Relational Life Institute, a family therapist and teacher for 30 years, and an author of many popular books including his breakout book “I Don’t Want to Talk About It”. In this episode, Terry discusses how his family dynamics led him to pursue therapy and details how his father and other life experiences  brought him to working with men specifically facing mental health issues. He also discusses the three types of narcissism that are attributed to men and the ways to disarm them. In the last moments, he discusses his shift to couples and where he thinks the field of couple therapy is headed. Finally, he discusses how he wants to be remembered in the field.

1hr

27 Sep 2019

Rank #10

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Episode 11: Monica McGoldrick

Dr. Monica McGoldrick is the Co-Founder and Director of the Multicultural Family Institute. She is also the author of many popular books, including “Genograms: Assessment and Intervention,” and "Women in Families," just to name a few! In this episode, Eli sits down with Monica to discuss her life, her journey, and her many accomplishments as a family therapist. Listen in as Monica discusses her career journey, from finishing her degree in Russian Studies to being known as a pioneer in the field. She also discusses her process of writing her widely popular Genogram book and her collaboration on expanding the Family Life Cycle framework. Finally, Monica will discuss her views on the evolution of the field and how she views her personal legacy.

56mins

26 Jul 2019

Rank #11

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Episode 10: Manijeh Daneshpour: Culturally Competent MFT

Dr. Manijeh Daneshpour is an LMFT with over 20 years of academic research and clinical experience centered around multiculturalism, social justice, premarital and marital relationships of Muslim family dynamics. Eli sits down with Manijeh as she tells powerful stories about her family of origin and her work with clients as it pertains to multiculturalism and cultural diversity. She discusses how being the only girl in an all-boys school has shaped her for her future. She defines what a third-wave feminist is and how it shaped her approach to the classic models of therapy.  Lastly, she discusses what factors are important for the field to move forward in cultural competency. 

1hr 1min

12 Jul 2019

Rank #12

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Episode 8: Harry Aponte

Harry Aponte is a clinical associate professor in Drexel University’s Couple & Family Therapy Department. Eli chats with Harry as he reflects on his career journey, including how his upbringing in the Bronx prepared him for community work.  He discusses his work with person of the therapist, advising therapists that their personal skills are what make techniques work. He talks about how his program created a safe environment for students to share their personal experiences while understanding how these experiences can both help and hinder the client process. He offers essential advice on resonating with people through one’s own brokenness. Harry reveals his reaction to receiving overdue validation on his work from Salvador Minuchin. Finally, he contemplates what he most wants to be remembered for in his professional legacy. 

53mins

13 Jun 2019

Rank #13

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Episode 7: Medical Family Therapy

Host Dr. Eli Karam sits with two of the leading therapists in the field of Medical Family Therapy, Dr. Angela Lamson and Dr. Jennifer Hodgson. Medical Family Therapy is a field that has its own set of competencies and interventions, with its own unique skills and training. It looks at health from a biopsychosocial/spiritual framework. In other words, it looks at health, loss, trauma, and death in the context of family and how that interfaces with different systems. Drs. Lamson and Hodgson share stories of how they first got into the field and how they first connected with each other. They  give insight on the skills needed to work in Medical Family Therapy, different training opportunities, and the future of the field.  Finally, they provide insight on how to expand the scope of your practice within Medical Family Therapy.

47mins

10 May 2019

Rank #14

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Episode 14: Ben Caldwell: Saving Psychotherapy

Dr. Ben Caldwell is part of the faculty at California State Northridge, an author of five books, and the chair of the Legislative and Advocacy Committee for the California division of AAMFT.In a discussion about advocacy and his thoughts on the MFT profession, Eli and Ben talk about his origin story as an MFT and how he started his work in advocacy. He expresses why advocacy should be important to students and young professionals, and discusses how MFTs can help change the stigma of going to therapy. Lastly, he talks about the biggest changes and trends in the field.

52mins

12 Sep 2019

Rank #15

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Episode 18: Fred Piercy

Fred P. Piercy, PhD, is professor and head of the Department of Human Development at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University. Dr. Piercy has won both national and university teaching awards. He has written over 160 published articles, 5 books, and 35 funded grants. Dr. Piercy served as the editor of the Journal of Marital and Family Therapy from 2012-2017. In this episode, Dr. Piercy discusses how he first gained interest in the profession and what led him to be an MFT. He begins with his journey into Academia and his favorite thing he has ever written. Fred explains how research shaped the MFT field over the years and the future of doctoral education. Lastly, he talks about the many lessons that he has learned from his students.

42mins

8 Nov 2019

Rank #16

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Episode 24: Karen Wampler

In a special edition of The AAMFT Podcast, Eli shares his interview with the late Dr. Karen Wampler, a major contributor to the field of marriage and family in the areas of academia and research. They discuss her role as editor-in-chief of the upcoming Handbook of Systemic Family Therapy, into which she poured her immense talents and vision to spearhead this work that will have an enduring impact on the profession.

49mins

25 Feb 2020

Rank #17

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Episode 7: Medical Family Therapy

Host Dr. Eli Karam sits with two of the leading therapists in the field of Medical Family Therapy, Dr. Angela Lamson and Dr. Jennifer Hodgson. Medical Family Therapy is a field that has its own set of competencies and interventions, with its own unique skills and training. It looks at health from a biopsychosocial/spiritual framework. In other words, it looks at health, loss, trauma, and death in the context of family and how that interfaces with different systems. Drs. Lamson and Hodgson share stories of how they first got into the field and how they first connected with each other. They  give insight on the skills needed to work in Medical Family Therapy, different training opportunities, and the future of the field.  Finally, they provide insight on how to expand the scope of your practice within Medical Family Therapy.

47mins

10 May 2019

Rank #18

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Episode 23: Emerging Technology & the MFT with Katherine Hertlein

Katherine Hertlein is a professor at UNLV whose research and publications have been recognized with multiple awards including a Fulbright Scholarship. In this episode, she discusses how technology influences couple and family therapy and how social media, online infidelity, and telehealth impact the delivery of services.

47mins

14 Feb 2020

Rank #19

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Episode 21: MFT Minority Student Experience

Leslie Anderson, LMFT, and Sheeza Mohsin, LMFT, talk about their experiences as MFT minority students and instructors. They discuss diversity, inclusion, and dialogues about race dynamics in the classroom, how majority groups can model inclusion and use privilege to benefit marginalized communities, and how the profession can attract more minority candidates. Finally, Jermaine Lowery, Director of AAMFT’s Minority Fellowship Program talks about opportunities and eligibility for the fellowship program. 

1hr 6mins

10 Jan 2020

Rank #20