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‘How do the Losers Club avoid being eaten by shapeshifting monsters from beyond the void? ‘IT’s’ social constructivism!’ (Ft. activity theory)

Oh boy do these episode titles keep getting longer and weirder or is it just me? Also this is the March episode…despite the release date of April…sorry about that! Mad month. Again…(thousand yard stare, sees helicopters and explosions) This week Join Becky, Mark and Mike as they try and figure out how those darn kids from 2017’s horror hit ‘IT’ use the power of friendship and social constructivism to stop an elder god alien thing from literally eating the fear right out of them. Eep. Oh yeah, we refer to activity theory in this episode, well more like glance off it. There’s more to read about it here, but we’ll probably do a little mini episode on it in the near future: Also we refer to a paper on designing online collaborative activities (Evans and Galley, 2016) – give it a read, it’s really rather good. Finally, Mark plugs one of his books on activity theory in an attempt to use 10% of the proceeds to feed his cats.


1 Apr 2021

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The Pedagodzilla Pedagogic Poetry Slam

Boy oh boy do we have a treat for you. Join Mike, Mark, Clare, Dot, Olivia, Mark number 2 and Chris in a multi university Pedagogic Poetry Slam mashup. Beat Poet Mark Childs gives lectures the gentle treatment.Piratical buccaneer Clare Hill shanties our ship about the benefits of ICEBERGs.Ghost of a Victorian music hall performer Mark Williams relates an alphabet of design principles.Iambic Pentameter Polymath Olivia Rowland laments information abundance.Renaissance raconteur Chris Cox Suess’s narrative and in learning design.Merited master of creative writing Dot ‘The Doz’ Coley gives us a piece on personal development planning.And ‘on your bike’ Mike Collins tries to summarise 2 years of pedagogic podcasting in a limerick that spirals out of control. Turns out poems are a pretty good way of summarising something for quick reference. If you’d like to download any of these to help with your own practice you can get the individual clips here: Mark Childs – LecturesClare Hill – ICEBERGMark Williams – Design principlesOlivia Rowland – Pedagogy of abundanceChris Cox – NarrativeDot Coley – Personal Development Planning (PDP)Mike Collins – Summarising 2 years of pedagogic podcasting (Oh yeah, there’s a bit where Mark C and Mark W talk about playing golf together. What they forgot to mention was that this was in VR using their Oculus Quest headsets, instead of flaunting lockdown rules by breaking in to a real life golf course like a pair of lunatics.) References Weller, Martin (2011). A pedagogy of abundance. Spanish Journal of Pedagogy, 249 pp. 223–236Weller, Martin; van Ameijde, Jitse and Cross, Simon (2018). Learning Design for Student Retention. Journalof Perspectives in Applied Academic Practice, 6(2) The Lecture is… ALT-C Reflections


26 Feb 2021

Rank #2

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How can you make constructivism amount to more than a hill of beans?

Welcome to the *cough* January Episode! Absolutely not published late. It’s pretty topical, but topical if you remember January 2021 – and that might as well have been last century at this point. In this episode we’ll be looking at the Beandad twitterstorm in a teacup, and using it to think about constructivism, our own childhood ineptitude, and why on balance – it’s probably better to feed kids than not. Oh yeah, if you’re not a fan of people starving to death, the ‘decent human being of the year’ award winning Marcus Rashford supports the charity FareShare. Maybe check it out. Here’s some references by the way: The transcript of the tweets themselves has vanished, but The Independent did a good summary of the story, one of the few articles that isn’t gnashing teeth in its coverage. The Kirschner article we referred to, Why Minimal Guidance During Instruction Does Not Work: An Analysis of the Failure of Constructivist, Discovery, Problem-Based, Experiential, and Inquiry-Based Teaching, Educational Psychologist, 41:2, 75-86,DOI: 10.1207/s15326985ep4102_1 And Mark’s reference to actual learning vs the feeling of learning, was covered in this article Measuring actual learning versus feeling of learning in response to being actively engaged in the classroom. I’m guiltily aware our references are spotty at the moment. New years resolution is to clean these up a bit by the summer!


1 Feb 2021

Rank #3

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Christmas Special! How do spooky muppets guide Scrooge through transformative Learning? (ft. experiential learning & rants)

Merry Christmas from Mike and Mark at Pedagodzilla! In this extra festive episode we explore Jack Mezirow’s transformative learning, through the lens of the greatest Christmas movie of all time (and by gum we’ll die on that hill) The Muppets Christmas Carol. Also Mike had to edit out around 20 minutes of ranting about the need for rationalism in society. It was great stuff though, do let us know if you’d like an unedited copy. Spoiler alert, anti-vaxxers, COVID deniers and holistic medicine purveyors. If you want to wish us a merry Christmas, or just lay a lump of coal in our stockings for misrepresenting Mezirow, then hit us up on the Twitters.


18 Dec 2020

Rank #4

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Why is a Mickey Mouse degree actually the best kind of degree you could experience? (Or, Pedagodzilla and the tale of The Thrice Edged Blade)

Join a band of starry eyed adventurers, Mike Collins (Learning Designer at the Open University, Bard), Chris Cox, (Learning Designer at Cranfield University, Paladin) and Mark Childs (Senior Learning Designer at Durham University, Rogue), as they battle through concepts and goblins, in search of the thrice edged blade! We explore narrative in narrative, narrative in education, and narrative in your pocket to add to both you and your students toolkits. It’s a belter, and we had a lot of fun with it. If you enjoy it, then do let us know and hit us up on the Twitters. And while you’re reading episode descriptions, why not check out Chris’s art over at his website mrchriscox.com? You can contact him about his fabulous book there. (Props to Mark, who did the second, third, fourth and fifth pass of the edit – reducing it to less than an hour.) (Original artwork for this episode by Chris Cox)


7 Dec 2020

Rank #5

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How litigious is Alan Bennett when it comes to pedagogic monologues?

In yet another weird and wonderful special, Mark Childs, Mark Williams and Mike Collins each present a silly pedagogic monologue in the style of everyone’s favourite northern playwright. Hopefully he won’t take us to court over our dreadful impersonations. We’ll use these carefully crafted dramatic masterpieces to discuss: Vampiric Learning Styles. Magical journeys through virtual learning spaces without enough biscuits. The pedagogic fuzz in constructive alignment busts. Oh yeah, the format we’re riffing on is loosely Alan Bennett’s Talking Heads by the way. Great show. Mike misses the point though and just writes a straight up dramatic monologue. Whoopsiedoodle. If you enjoy the episode, then hit us up on the Twitters and let us know. If you didn’t enjoy the episode then why not try Terry Green’s Gettin’ Air? He has all sorts of fancy pedagogic peeps on his show. It’s very profesh and much less likely to be sued by a national treasure.


30 Oct 2020

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How does Julie Andrews escape Nazis with Active Learning?

The hills are aliiiiive with the sooooound of lectuuuuures. And that’s why Active Learning is so gosh darned important. In this episode we’ll be answering the bloody stupid question, ‘How does Julie Andrews escape nazis with active learning?’. To do so we’ll look back to the veil of time to the pre-on demand media era, to the 1965 Rogers and Hammerstein classic ‘The Sound of Music’. If you’re less than thirty years old and have no idea what it is, it’s that thing that’s been parodied a million times. Think doe-ray-me, getting buzzed by a helicopter on a mountain, and escaping from zer nazis by getting a standing ovation. Active learning is an umbrella term for a load of stuff. You can find Olivia’s cracking article on the subject over here at the OU Learning Design blog. If you enjoy the episode, then hit us up on the Twitters and let us know. If you didn’t enjoy the episode then I hear Joe Rogan is pretty popular.


25 Sep 2020

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Mailbox Magic – How do Ontology and Epistomology help you kill JarJar Binks with headcannons?

This is a special mailbox episode, at the request of Scott R. Cowan who asked us to demystify Ontology, Epistomology, Positivism and Interpretivism. Not only will we lift the veil on the terms and show you how they fit together, but we’ll also give you the mental equipment you need to erase poorly written CG monsters from your sci-fi canon of choice. ‘Another Star Wars episode?!’ I hear you cry over the internet. Well pish and pertiddle I say, there’s so much learning and teaching in those movies (and they’re so ubiquitous that they make a great accessible schema to frame things against) that we could genuinely smash it against a pedagogy every single episode. We go against that base instinct for your sake though listeners, because we love you. And because as geeks we’re at the buffet table of nerdism, as opposed to the set menu. On that subject, we were infiltrated by a non-geek in this episode! We’re joined by Olivia who has a special interest in the subject, but has only ever seen one Star Wars movie. And it was one of the prequels. Egad. Mark wrote a smashing blog on the subject of this episode. You can find it on his site here. If you’ve got something you’re particularly interested in us covering in the old pedagogical world, then do let us know. You can hit us up via the twitters @pedagodzilla.


27 Aug 2020

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Don’t Pivot, Swivel – Episode 3

Mark’s third dip into pandemic pedagogy is with Professor Peter Hartley. This came about because Mark and Peter are invited every year to do a presentation at the SOLSTICE conference at Edge Hill University. Because of lockdown they were asked to do a video or narrated PowerPoint on the impact of Covid-19 instead. This looked at the tendency of many people who did the pivot to online to behave as if online learning wasn’t just new to them, but new to everyone. There’s speculation about what mechanisms could have led to this lack of awareness, and why online pedagogy principles hadn’t previously permeated practice. Though without the alliteration. They also took apart the number of bad takes on online learning in newspapers, including those that are for the teaching profession. And they did all these discussions about the pandemic and what happened after as if looking back on it from 2045. The narrated PowerPoint is at https://figshare.edgehill.ac.uk/articles/presentation/Looking_back_at_the_2020_pandemic/12416009  The audio is a bit shorter but there’s pictures!


28 Jul 2020

Rank #9

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Dave Lister, Modern Day Socrates? Can we smash the 2020 Innovating Pedagogy report in to Red Dwarf?

In the third and final part of our lockdown schedule ruining miniseries, ‘WHERE’S MY HOVERBOARD?!’, we pick through some of our favourite articles from the 2020 Innovating Pedagogy Report , exploring Posthumanism, Esports in education – and most importantly how gosh darned much we love Red Dwarf. I’m not kidding. I easily trimmed twenty straight minutes of us chatting about our favourite bits, and there’s still so much there. Mark mentions a Foxdrop in the family near the end of the show. You can find the video he’s referring to here. We’re back to our semi-normal output after this, but if you’ve enjoyed it – or have a particular bit of pointy pedagogy you want us to poke, then do let us know via the twitters. My (Mike’s) audio went a bit funny in this episode, and I had to revert to the backup – so apologies to those with particularly keen ears who notice the extra compression.


21 Jul 2020

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