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Horror Queers

Each week, queer hosts Joe Lipsett and Trace Thurman discuss a horror film with LGBTQ+ themes, a high camp quotient or both.

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Jennifer's Body (2009)

Joe and Trace hit the Carousel for the ‘Low Shoulder’ concert and a lengthy chat about Jennifer’s Body, the horror classic from 2009. The guys break down the misunderstood film’s original reception by the "boy-run" media, its recent (re)appropriation by the horror community, its completely obvious queer intentions, as well as Karyn Kusama’s preferred “Unrated/Extended” cut.Cross out the hatred because this film ROCKS.Plus: This week's game requires the guys to create their own fake rock band names.*Please note: this episode was recorded before Elliot Page transitioned, so there is a mention of his dead name. Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter, Instagram, Youtube, Letterboxd and/or Facebook, or join the Facebook Group to get in touch with other listeners> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremoteSupport the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingShow Notes:Grady, Constance. "How Jennifer’s Body went from a flop in 2009 to a feminist cult classic today"Griffiths, Valeska. "In defence of that kiss: The queer love story at the heart of Jennifer’s Body"Wolfe, April - Switchblade Sisters Podcast: ‘Jennifer’s Body’ with ‘Cam’ Writer/Producer Isa MazzeiSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 13mins

23 Jan 2019

Rank #1

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Hostel (2005)

Three episodes in and Joe and Trace are already ready for a vacation…in straight white homophobic hell. That’s right, we’re RIPPING into Eli Roth’s notorious 2004 torture porn flick Hostel, drilling down into the Josh/Salad Fingers relationship and questioning if Roth, the film or the characters are homophobic. Mostly the guys just lament how much better Part Two is. Plus: in this week’s game Joe forces Trace to play “Archive or Trash It” with Roth’s filmography.Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremoteSupport the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingShow Notes:Gartside, Will. “The Hostel Rhetoric of Torture: A Discourse Analysis of Torture.” Projections, Vol 7, Issue 1 (Summer 2013)See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 16mins

16 Jan 2019

Rank #2

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IT: Chapter One (2017) feat. Michael Roffman

In an episode almost as long as its source material, the boys kick off Stephen King week with a trip to Derry alongside resident expert Michael Roffman (Editor-In-Chief of Consequence of Sound and co-host of The Losers Club podcast).EVERYTHING is on the table: Coming of age narratives, bad CGI, the appeal of dancing clowns, as well as Derry and Pennywise as stand-ins for Reagan-era Conservatism. Also, a discussion of whether adults are the true villains, the most effective set pieces and an obligatory queer reading of Richie and Eddie.Throw in Michael's analysis of Ariana Grande's contribution to music, the group's analysis of why a wave of 90s nostalgia is long overdue, and Trace's passionate response to hysterical reactions on the Internet. Plus: the episode runs long because we also sneak in an extended comparison to Scary Stories To Tell In The Dark!This Week's Game: which King universe (book or film) would you live in?Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers or like our Facebook page.> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremote> Michael: @michaelroffman> The Losers Club: @LosersClubPodSupport the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 47mins

4 Sep 2019

Rank #3

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Scream 2 (1997)

Hi! No, we really mean it. Hi! After nearly a year of waiting, the time has come for Trace and Joe to dig into the best film in the Scream franchise and arguably the best horror sequel of all time. Join us as we praise the film's dedication to further developing its main trio, its willingness to kill off Randy and, of course, Laurie Metcalf's totally unhinged performance as Mrs. Loomis (or is it Ms. Loomis? Try to keep track of Joe's pronunciations).Also on deck: wisdom from Wes Craven's audio commentary, details from Kevin Williamson's original leaked script, and a plethora of line readings, including Trace performing several scores. Plus: deep dives into two of the best sequences in modern horror!Don't wait for video because this episode is (British accent) "a good one."Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys via our brand new Twitter handle @horrorqueers, like our Facebook Page or join our Facebook Group.> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremoteSupport the boys on Patreon and shop our online store for your very own Horror Queers merchandise! Check out the NEW online articles on Bloody DisgustingAnd vote for the 2020 Hereditaries before Jan 22!See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

2hr 11mins

8 Jan 2020

Rank #4

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Final Destination (2000) feat. Terry Mesnard

Our Summer of Franchises begins by knocking on Death's door with the 2000 pseudo-slasher Final Destination! Joined by Gayly Dreadful's Terry Mesnard, the boys look at the film that boasts a queer screenwriter (Jeffrey Reddick) and several gruesome Rube Goldberg-y deaths (and one surprise bus attack).Join them as they debate the ridiculousness of the name "Clear Rivers," the fact that the FBI agents are the worst and why straight guys like to poop together (seriously, why is this movie so poop-obsessed?).Is a queer screenwriter not queer enough for you? Never fear! Joe has you covered with his theory about Carter's repressed homosexuality. Plus, his secret dislike for Jaws comes out!Weekly Game: the boys try to come up with their own convoluted deaths.Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremote> Terry: @GaylyDreadfulSupport the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 29mins

12 Jun 2019

Rank #5

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The Rage: Carrie 2 (1999)

Since the boys got a late start to Women in Horror Month, they've decided to continue it into the first week of March! Next up is Katt Shea's under-appreciated and ahead-of-its-time film The Rage: Carrie 2.Join Joe and Trace as they take a deep dive into the troubled production of this much-maligned sequel. Topics on the table include but are not limited to: the truly despicable teenage characters, an enormous stuffed dog, Amy Irving's completely ineffectual guidance counselor, and Mena Suvari's predilection for projects with the word "American" in the title. And yes, they do address the fact that the remains of the OG Bates High School are still there for some reason. On a more serious note, they also discuss their experiences with bullying, narrowing them down to what they refer to as their "Carrie Moment."Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremoteSupport the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 31mins

6 Mar 2019

Rank #6

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Jason X (2002)

Happy (early) Friday the 13th, y'all! We're celebrating the holiday with a return trip to space (following our episode on Hellraiser: Bloodline last month) with a festive viewing of the much-maligned Jason X.Join us as we say hello to a cameo-ing David Cronenberg before traveling 4.55 centuries into the future to board the vessel Grendel. While aboard, we will lament the outlawing of hockey in 2024, ponder the "Microsoft Conflict" and cheer on Janessa (Melyssa Ade) as she earns some sextra credit by employing some some super tame nipple play. Also, why is UberJason only in the last 14 minutes of this 87-minute movie? Why are the sets of this $11 million-budgeted movie derivative of the 1999 Disney Channel Original movie Zenon: Girl of the 21st Century? Did Harry Manfredini rip off John Williams' Raiders of the Lost Ark score for his "Birth of the UberJason" track? And will Trace find yet another way to bring up The Lizzie McGuire Movie? (The answer is yes.)But hey, it's not all bad! There's still that super clever VR sequence in the third act, Lisa Ryder's delightfully kooky android KM-14 and a truly awesome kill involving liquid nitrogen and a scantily clad scientist's head (seriously, why are all of these female scientists baring their stomachs?).Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys via our brand new Twitter handle @horrorqueers, like our Facebook Page or join our Facebook Group.> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremoteSupport the boys on Patreon and shop our online store for your very own Horror Queers merchandise! Check out the NEW online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 36mins

11 Mar 2020

Rank #7

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Ginger Snaps (2000) feat. Ariel Fisher

It’s a maple leaf takeover! Just in time for Canada Day, Joe stacks the pod with both a Canadian film and a Canadian guest, Ariel Fisher, for another gang-up on Trace. The trio venture into the wilds of Toronto suburbia for a discussion of lycanthropy, the “horrors” of menstruation and how Katharine Isabelle can help facilitate the coming out process.Also up for grabs: Joe and Trace’s inability to do basic math, a discussion of feminine hygiene products, the struggles John Fawcett's production faced due to Columbine, and Trace’s true feelings about Canada.Plus - naturally - a discussion of werewolf transformations that devolves into the usual bathroom humor that you’ve come to expect. At least Ariel is around to class up the joint!Weekly Game: the trio pitch a quintessential (body) horror film that captures the experience of being in your 20s.Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers or join the FB group> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremote>Ariel: @Afis8 Support the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 21mins

26 Jun 2019

Rank #8

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Black Christmas (2006) feat. Alex Wiggins

Just in time for the 45th anniversary of Bob Clark's iconic 1974 original film and the release of its second remake, the Horror Queers are celebrating the holidays with some eye bolas masquerading as Christmas tree ornaments in Glen Morgan's 2006 remake of Black Christmas! Joining them for this festive event is Alex Wiggins, the Acquisitions Supervisor for World of Death, who shares his traumatic experience of a hate crime that intruded on his first viewing of the film.Join them as they dive deep into the Weinstein shenanigans that plagued the film (not to mention those absolutely insane post-production shoots meant exclusively for the trailer), the jaundice-y and incest-y backstory of the film's male killer and the odd decision to have the film's female killer be played by a male actor.Oh, and why can't Andrea Martin's Mrs. Mac find any presents underneath that goddamn tree?This Week's Game: Which group of sorority girls are more equipped to survive a murderous psychopath? The ladies of Black Christmas? Or the accidental murderesses of 2009's Sorority Row?Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers or like our Facebook Page or join our Facebook Group.> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremote> Alex: @AlexJoseWigginsSupport the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 58mins

11 Dec 2019

Rank #9

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Orphan (2009) feat. Sade Sellers

Joe and Trace traverse the spooky halls of Dark Castle Entertainment to discuss Jaume Collet-Serra's (The Shallows, House of Wax) creepy-kid movie Orphan! Joining them on their tour is Sade Sellers, one of the co-hosts of the Afro Horror Podcast! Her expertise on black horror cinema proves crucial when the boys analyze Sister Abigail (C.C.H. Pounder)'s brutal death by hammer!Other topics on the table includes the film's obscenely long 123-minute runtime, Trace's thoughts on Taissa Farmiga's acting abilities (or lack thereof) and Joe's fight for deaf actors' rights.Also: Why is Peter Sarsgaard's character the absolute worst? Why doesn't Character Actress Margo Martindale believe anything Vera Farmiga says? And what is Asia Argento's secret connection to the film?Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers or join the Facebook group> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremote> Sade: @IAMSadeSellers> Afro Horror Podcast: @afrohorrorpodSupport the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 22mins

24 Jul 2019

Rank #10

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Seed of Chucky (2004) feat. Chris Eggertsen

In celebration of the second week of the Summer of Franchises, Joe, Trace and special guest Chris Eggertsen are headed to Romania…er…”Hollywood” to check out the fifth Chucky film.Chris and Joe gang up on Trace in a heated argument about what constitutes the “Big” horror franchises; they discuss out and proud gay director Don Mancini’s role shepherding the franchise for 30+ years, and why Jennifer Tilly’s autobiography should be called “Gaslighting.”Also on the table: pronunciations of “Redman,” a supersized overview of S Club 7’s history and, naturally, a detailed discussion of the titular “seed”…in all of its various forms.Weekly Game: the boys speculate which celebrity Chucky would murder.Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers or join the FB group> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremote> Chris: @chrisjeggertsen Support the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 23mins

19 Jun 2019

Rank #11

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Tragedy Girls (2017) feat. Dani Ryan

After so many months, the boys are ready to embrace facts: they are social media darlings and the world needs to know it! With Dani Ryan along for the ride, the trio "Like and Fave" Tyler MacIntyre's astute meta-comedy about two aspiring serial (or is it spree?) killers on the cusp of graduating high school with a body count.Up for discussion: Are the girls on equal footing? Are the girls in love with each other? and,Why do people not like these girls? Also: Trace works on his transitions between segments, he and Dani are hot for Josh Hutcherson (and why everyone should be watching Hulu’s Future Man), and Joe elaborates on why Craig Robinson’s character doesn’t work for him.Oh, and the trio discuss the logistics of being "buttholed to death”.This Week's Game: What distinguishes a Serial killer from a Spree killer?What level of social media fame would it take for you to murder someone?Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers or join the Facebook group> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremote> Dani: @danirat / Third Time's The Charm PodcastSupport the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 24mins

14 Aug 2019

Rank #12

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Jawbreaker (1999)

Everything is peachy fucking keen as the Horror Queers take a field trip to Reagan High to figure out the mystery behind Liz Purr and the mysterious jawbreaker lodged in her throat! In what is admittedly an unusual film to cover in a horror podcast, Joe and Trace grab their Big Sticks and dive into the legacy that Darren Stein's Jawbreaker has left behind.How did this critical and commercial failure become the cult phenomenon that it is? Did it really rip off Heathers? Or was it ripped off by Mean Girls? Does it really matter? Why is Rose McGowan so perfect? And what if it had been a horror film, as Stein originally intended?In this week's game: Who would win in a fight: Cruel Intentions' Kathryn Merteuil (Sarah Michelle Gellar) or Jawbreaker's Courtney Shane (Rose McGowan)?Want to be entered for a chance to win the opportunity to pick one of our 2020 episodes (to be released in the first quarter)? Fill out this survey at bit.ly/horrorqueers!Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers or like our Facebook Page or join our Facebook Group.> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremoteSupport the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 29mins

20 Nov 2019

Rank #13

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Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday (1993) feat. Alice Collins

The Horror Queers are getting a head start on Friday the 13th celebrations with a visit to Crystal Lake in Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday! Joe and Trace are joined by fellow Bloody Disgusting columnist Alice Collins in an episode that might as well be called E! True Hollywood Story: Jason Goes to Hell. Together, they will try to do the impossible: make sense of a film that makes absolutely no sense.Topics up for discussion are little girls in pink dresses sticking a hot dog through a donut, queer leather-daddy shaving fetishes, sensual hand-stroking and crazy-impressive gore effects. In a surprising twist, Joe admits to loving the film (despite not being a fan of the franchise), Trace talks about how screenwriters Dean Lorey and Jay Huguely stole the plot of the film from a story he wrote in the first grade and Alice spills the tea on most of the film's production troubles.Oh! Did they mention that this episode starts off an eight-week marathon of campy horror films? Because it does! So be prepared for seven more weeks of unintentionally funny horror films, most of which have very, very troubled production histories.This Week's Game: If you were a studio executive with $10 million and you had the rights, which dormant horror franchise would you order an off-brand installment of?Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers or like our Facebook page> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremote> Alice: @VampAlySupport the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 29mins

11 Sep 2019

Rank #14

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House on Haunted Hill (1999)

As the boys near the end of their eight-week camp marathon, they make a return trip to the halls of Dark Castle Entertainment (see previous episode on Orphan) to check into the Vannacutt Psychiatric Institute for the Criminally Insane. That's right, they're celebrating the 20th anniversary of William Malone's remake of House on Haunted Hill!Join them as they discuss a remake that's better than it has any right to be (even if it doesn't seem to know what a "house" is), praise the glorious diva perfection that is Famke Janssen and marvel at Ali Larter's ability to connect wires and turn on lights!Oh! They need some help settling a debate: what would one call the fate that befalls Schechter (Buffy the Vampire Slayer's Max Perlich) in the film?In this week's game: Recast House on Haunted Hill with 2019 actors!Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers or like our Facebook Page or join our Facebook Group.> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremoteSupport the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 37mins

23 Oct 2019

Rank #15

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Oculus (2014)

Who would have ever thought a movie about a killer mirror could actually be A) good and B) scary? That's right, the boys are discussing Mike Flanagan's 2014 film Oculus! Join Joe and Trace as they gush (pun intended) over Flanagan's oeuvre and discuss the role a sibling (or siblings) can play in the coming-out process.Plus, the boys decide which killer mirror movie is better: Oculus or Alexandre Aja's Mirrors? Hint: it's not the one with Kiefer Sutherland.We've even got some homework for our more devoted listeners this week!1) Share your sibling's (or siblings') role(s) in your coming-out story.2) Send us your Oculus sequel ideas.3) And for those of you who don't like Oculus or find it difficult to relate to the characters: Why?Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremoteSupport the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 12mins

10 Apr 2019

Rank #16

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American Horror Story: Asylum (2012) feat. Emily VanDerWerff

Just in time for the last episode of the year before the holidays, the boys hit the time machine and travel back to Briarcliff Manor circa 1964 to party with the oppressed queers of American Horror Story: Asylum. Joining us for the fun is Vox's Emily VanDerWerff, who actually recapped the series back in 2012!The second season of the FX anthology series is basically a Stefon skit: it has EVERYTHING! Aliens, Nazis, serial killers, lesbians, and even sexy, possessed nuns. Plus, in the three episodes we're watching, Anne Frank (episodes 4-5) and a killer Santa (episode 8).We're digging into the Ryan Murphy-ness of it all with a debate about the quality of AHS, whether Murphy is a true queer ally, as well as how Emily came to love Sarah Paulson and why that terrible aversion therapy scene is so difficult to watch.Also: is this show suggesting that Ian McShane's Leigh Emerson became a killer Santa because he was gang-raped by five men?!In this week's game: add a new actor to Murphy's acting troupe.Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers or like our Facebook Page or join our Facebook Group.> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremote> Emily: @tvotiSupport the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 21mins

18 Dec 2019

Rank #17

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Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation (1995) feat. Stephanie Crawford

Someone tell Vilmer that we’re on the way with pizza (seriously, tell him!), because we’re discussing the comedy masterpiece Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation, directed by a bunch of hacks the co-writer of the original The Texas Chain Saw Massacre: Kim Henkel! Joining us is Stephanie Crawford, the co-host of the Screamcast podcast!In this episode, we shower Darla (Tonie Perensky) with praise and label Leatherface the tortured drag queen that he is. Is the film ahead of its time? Or is it just stupid? You tell us!Join us as we ask the ultimate question: why does no one get killed with a chainsaw in a movie titled Texas Chainsaw Massacre? Instead, we’ve got trash bags as jump scares, killer planes, remote control legs, a greasy Matthew McConaughey and the Illuminati! WHAT IS THIS MOVIE?This Week's Game: who should play Leatherface in the remake of TCM: TNG. Should it be Renée Zellweger herself (she does have that new face, after all) or an actual drag queen like Nina West or *gulp* Roxxxy Andrews?For more information on Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation, check out Justin Yandell’s thoughtful analysis of the film on Bloody Disgusting.Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers or like our Facebook page.> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremote> Stephanie: @scrawfordSupport the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 22mins

25 Sep 2019

Rank #18

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The Wicker Man (2006) feat. Cap Blackard

Not the bees! Not the bees! That's right, the Horror Queers are discussing Neil LaBute's camptastic trashterpiece The Wicker Man, and they are joined by Consequence of Sound's Cap Blackard! Join the threesome as they discuss Nicolas Cage's "performance," the constant punching of women and the prospect of a remake entitled The Wicker Butt. Plus, Cap graces the boys with her knowledge of Robin Hardy's original film and its long-delayed sequel, The Wicker Tree.It's not all fun and games, however. Any discussions of the film come with the topic of misogyny that LaBute incorporated into his script. Does this film hate women? Listen and find out!Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremote> Cap: @capblackardSupport the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 23mins

1 May 2019

Rank #19

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Psycho 2 (1983) feat. Michael Varrati

After 23 years of driving, the boys pick up Dead For Filth's multi-hyphenate Michael Varrati en route to a charming motel run by Anthony Perkins' Norman Bates. The trio discuss the film's categorization as a long in-development sequel, a slasher released during the height of the 80s craze and a cash grab.Along the way they suggest that Meg Tilly's tough, but thankless "tofu" role as Mary is a mirror image of Norman and propose that Psycho 2 succeeds where Halloween (2018) fails by truly investigating grief and trauma.Come for the ridiculous number of sidebar references/jokes about Psycho 3 and stay for the game, which asks Michael and Trace to cast a sequel to Gus Van Sant's shot-for-shot remake. Who does Trace name drop that irks Joe so much that Trace is banished to the corner? You'll have to listen to find out! Questions? Comments? Snark? Connect with the boys on Twitter using the hashtag #HorrorQueers> Trace: @tracedthurman> Joe: @bstolemyremote> Michael: @MichaelVarrati Support the boys on PatreonCheck out the online articles on Bloody DisgustingSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 28mins

17 Apr 2019

Rank #20