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Rethinking God with Tacos Podcast

Rethinking God with Tacos is Jason Clark, a fella who really likes tacos discovering, with friends, that God is like Jesus; that God is love and His love is better than our greatest thoughts, better than our wildest imaginings, and even better than our best biblical understanding. Just a guy talking with amazing guests, rethinking.

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Rethinking God with Tacos is Jason Clark, a fella who really likes tacos discovering, with friends, that God is like Jesus; that God is love and His love is better than our greatest thoughts, better than our wildest imaginings, and even better than our best biblical understanding. Just a guy talking with amazing guests, rethinking.

There Is No "Us or Them" at the Cross with Jason Clark

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This podcast highlights Jason’s book, Leaving and finding Jesus, where he writes about his deconstructing faith journey. The book is Jason’s Emmaus Road discovery of a love that is reconciling all creation; a journey where he’s awakening to a burning heart while leaving every Jesus who won’t lay His life down for His friends. 

This podcast features a message Jason gave at an icuTalks where he addresses trauma within the church. He confronts the myth of separation with the truth that absolutely nothing, not life or death, powers or authorities, not present or future, not our understandings, beliefs, systems, or actions, nothing separates us from the reconciling love of God.

To Pre-Purchase CLICK HERETo Pre-Purchase through the Idiegogo campaign / multiple book titles CLICK HERE To Learn More About icuTalks CLICK HERE To Learn More About Jason's Speaking Engagement in the San Fransisco Area on Oct, 7-8, 2022 CLICK HERE

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Sep 15 2022

37mins

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5Q - The Fivefold with Brandon Kelly

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Derek and Jason dive into the fivefold (APEST) typology of ministry as articulated in Ephesians 4:1-1 with Brandon Kelly, the co-director at 5Qcollective. APEST stands for the Apostolic, Prophetic, Evangelistic, Shepherding, and Teaching intelligence that Jesus gifted to his body.

The guys discussed the fivefold in connection with the nature of God as non-hierarchal and inclusive, laced throughout creation and culture, reconstituted and perfectly exemplified in the life and ministry of Jesus, embedded into the very foundations of the Church, and subsequently expressed through the lives of the countless saints that make it up.

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Sep 01 2022

1hr 5mins

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Wm Paul Young / Eternal Life, The Ever Present Now

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“Eternal life is not on a timeline, it is the ever-present now" Wm Paul Young, author of The Shack, talks with Lloyd and Jason Clark about eternal life, an authentic friendship with our Father where we are free to live in the ever-present now. Union, peace, grace, expectancy, trust, facing our fear, the incarnation, death, writing for the one, and stories about Pauls's friends on death row and the Shack movie, this is an authentic and vulnerable conversation.

Please rate, review, share, and subscribe! Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly

Aug 17 2022

1hr 30mins

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Winn Collier / We Belong To One Another

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“The natural habitat is to be enveloped in the love of God.”

The thread through all Winn Collier's work is delight in the God who exists as the blazing center of everything that is good, beautiful, and true; and you feel that in this conversation. In this podcast, Winn and Jason talk about God's hope and heart for all creation to know we belong to one another. The guys dive into wholeness, cruciform love, and what it means to be fully human. Then Winn talks about his friendship with Eugene Peterson, writer of The Message Translation. Winn shares about the biography he recently released on Eugene's incredible life, A Burning In My Bones, and on their shared heart for pastors and the church!

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Jul 30 2022

1hr 6mins

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Faithfully Connected with Derek Turner & Jason Clark

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“Faith is a seed that is to be planted firmly in the love of God." Atheism, politics, nationalism, identity, punishment, hell, evangelism, and the church, in this conversation Derek and Jason, dive into a faith that is not transactional and always relational. The guys talk about how it’s the power of kindness to change the world. This is a generous conversation between two friends who are becoming sure that God is like Jesus and always has been; two fellas rethinking what it means to be a friend of God.

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Jul 20 2022

1hr 24mins

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Leif Hetland / The Love Awakening

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Leif Hetland’s profound and powerful personal testimonies bring to light what it means to be transformed by God’s love. Leif has been recognized as an ambassador of the Father’s love—an everyday person who has received divine opportunities to bring God’s light into some of the darkest places on earth.

In this conversation Leif, Mark Appleyard 7 Jason dive into Leif’s new book, The Love Awakening. Through personal stories, the guys discuss the powerful, supernatural Baptism of Love that breaks off shame, affirms identity, and reveals the unconditional love of the Father. This is a life-giving conversation around union, evangelism, and the miraculous.

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Jul 05 2022

1hr 5mins

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John Eldredge / Resilient: Restoring Your Weary Soul

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The human soul has a built-in yearning for joy and beauty and all good things. But that craving for life has taken a real beating in recent years. Between false promises of ease and comfort on one side and the sheer trauma of global disease and disasters on the other, people today are facing a shortage of peace, happiness, and strength. 

In this conversation, John and Jason dive into John's new book, Resilient. The guys talk about life and faith during and since the pandemic. They dive into the evidence of trauma, how to discover peace in the midst of disappointment, the dark night of the soul, de- and reconstruction, and ultimately union. This conversation reveals a path toward genuine recovery and resilience provided by Jesus himself.

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Jun 22 2022

58mins

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Justin Stumvoll / Love Is The Key

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Justin Stumvoll is a speaker, teacher, and life consultant who knows the kindness of God and loves to create space for individuals to find healing so they can be their most authentic selves Just dives into Love being the key to helping folks walk through the gritty, vulnerable and real approach to transformation. This was a fast-paced conversation where the guy’s traded stories about the reconciling nature of God; they talked about punishment, self-judgment, reconciliation, justice, sin, grace, freedom from addiction, and more. This podcast is bursting with the kindness of God that transforms the world.

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“The thing that is completely different with Jesus (as opposed to) any other religious system is that there is no hierarchy.”

“We are tormented by our disconnection to love that causes us to believe that  “I am abandoned.”

“You are more than the amalgamation of the messes you’ve made.”

“People are terrified of forgiveness because it strips them of control…under a law-based system I can control the love of God… this removes relationship and trust…

“There’s no such thing as an atheist, there are just people that really question religion.”

“When I look at an individual, I (am able to) have grace for their messes, (because) I don’t see a 40-year-old, I see a five-year-old…” To learn more or to support this podcast go to www.afamilystory.org Please rate, review, share, and subscribe!

Jun 05 2022

1hr 34mins

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John Crowder / Trinitarian Theology

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John Crowder pulls from the different streams of the church to talk about Christilogical Trinitarian theology, grace, union, contemplative practice, intimacy, and mystical Christianity. John and Jason dive into the Cross, Western atonement theories, and the religious industry built upon separation; how Jesus is healing the human race. John describes a relationship with a person, Christ. He invites us to embrace mystery so we might discover that God looks like Jesus.

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“People are grabbing the Trinitarian Father, this gospel message…”

“I saw the connection between the church mystics and post-Azusa Street Pentecostalism, it was the presence orientation that connected these streams.”

“We’ve pulled from a lot of different streams; I could see baby Jesus in the bathwater.”

“I think there is a merger happening that we got to get a hold of, a Christological, Trinitarian theology that is contemplative in its experience and employment.”

“The biggest problem in the church is separation thinking, between you and Jesus, and between Jesus and His Father”

“This idea that the Father is turning his back on the Son, that Jesus is the whipping boy for the Father's wrath, this is preached as the gospel, an atonement theory, a twisted one at that, being preached as the gospel in the western church. These atonement theories are demonic in nature. (And) There’s almost no grid for what the cross means outside that…”

“What did not happen on the cross, which is a complete fabrication, a demonic fairy tale, the Trinity was not imploding on Itself…Jesus was healing the human race…”

“There have always been pluralities in the Godhead and He has always desired family”

“Religion builds an industry on the concept of separation.” To learn more or to support this podcast go to www.afamilystory.org Please rate, review, share, and subscribe!

May 25 2022

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He Calls Us Friends with Brent Lokker & Jason Clark

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This conversation with Jason Clark was hosted by Brent Lokker on his youtube channel Vibrant Life. This podcast begins with two dads sharing stories about helping their children encounter God as a loving Father. The guys dive into obedience in the context of union and friendship, learning to trust the unchanging nature of our Father, not as retributive, punishing, or abandoning, but as the tenderhearted one who accepts us, loves us, and is always good! They discussed what it looks like to live as God's friend, not as a servant. Why Jesus cried out on the cross, "My God, my God, why have your forsaken me?" Knowing and trusting the Father who was in Christ reconciling the world to himself. Dreaming with a good Father. The positive side of the deconstruction movement. Reconstructing our lives on the cornerstone of the real Jesus. To learn more or to support this podcast go to www.afamilystory.org Please rate, review, share, and subscribe!

May 12 2022

49mins

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Karen Swallow Prior / Life, Literature, & God

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Karen Swallow Prior is a Reader, Writer, and Professor in that order, which was discussed in this conversation along with the power of language, the Word becoming flesh, the connection of imagination with logic and reason, empathy, trauma, the theodicy of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, and love being the center of our conversations. Karen also shares about getting hit by a literal bus and how she grew in her understanding that her life is in God’s hands.

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“We express our sense of ourselves and our experience through language and even before we express it, we understand it that way.”

“Language helps us interpret our experiences…what stories we tell ourselves or what we tell other people about what happened to us. It's an interpretive frame for the rest of our lives.”

Regarding the Word became flesh: “To think about words as symbols and even that idea is also a metaphor but also literal… I can’t even understand it on a literal level but the possibilities and the implications are endless and it should shape everything that we think and we do.”

“What I’m trying to understand better about God… is how we relate to God through the church and in the church that is so imperfect and fallen…”

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Apr 27 2022

1hr 9mins

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Scott Crowder / Learning To Be Present

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Scott Crowder is a pastor, singer-songwriter, and one of Jason’s closest friends. The guys dive into their love for the church, about learning how to be present with God, ourselves, each other, and our community. Scott talks about creating church cultures that practice the fruits of the Spirit, learning to lead ourselves and others in seasons of joy and sorrow, that “success” isn’t about numbers, cool fads, or being 'front runners,' it’s discovered in community.

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“'Success,’ in a word is, ‘presence.’ I don’t mean that in the school of ‘the glory cloud came.’ I mean, I can be present to you, as you are present to me, as we are present to this moment, as we can be present to where we live, and we are not stuck in a dream of an ideal community that we never can become.”

“When you’re present, you’re present to pain. When you’re present as a servant, as a leader, you’re present when you can do nothing for that person or they can do nothing for you.”

“How many faithful people did we (the church) overlook…faithful movements did we overlook because they didn’t bear the fruit that we thought kingdom-building looked like. They didn’t promote themselves (but) they’ve been here the whole time.”

“I am a witness or witnesses, I’m part of the church at large, whether I want to be or not. So, I’m learning to value those voices and people who have gone before me.”

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Apr 12 2022

1hr 15mins

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Thomas Jay Oord / Open & Relational Theology

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Thomas Jay Oord shares about open relational theology; how it connects with the way we live and matches our deepest intuitions. The guys talked about a relational God who is genuinely loving, looks like Jesus, and walks through each day with us, impacting and impacted by our friendship.

Thomas describes an uncontrolling, loving God, that harmonizes with scripture. In this podcast, he dives into the subjects of hell, prayer, and evangelism all through the lens of open relational theology.

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Mar 30 2022

1hr 8mins

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Daniel Grothe / The Power of Place

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Daniel Grothe and the guys discuss his new book, The Power of Place, which speaks to the sense of loneliness that many feel in today's age of hypermobility and noncommittal wandering, reminding us of the ancient vow of stability and teaching us how we can lead a richer life of friendship, community, and purpose.

They also touch on the deconstruction movement within the church, how authoritarian leadership has wounded and undermined trust, and how healing and connection are available only where we practice the long game of family.

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Mar 16 2022

1hr 13mins

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Peter Hiett / What About Hell?

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The goodness of God but hell, atonement but hell, reformation but hell, scripture but hell, Calvinism but hell; in this podcast Peter Hiett describes hell as “Satan's big but.” In this conversation Peter walks us through the story of our own creation, the goodness of God’s reconciling love, the relational kindness of a God who encounters, sets free and transforms. Peter describes a God who delights in His creation, a God destroys what is evil, creates what is good, and invites us to observe our own creation in Christ Jesus.

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Regarding relentless love and hell “At that point I was simply saying I want to hope this is true. And they said, “you can hope it, but you can’t believe it’s possible.”

“Knowledge of evil is believing I have to justify myself.”

“It's really not very complicated at all. If you take out the middle point of (Calvinism’s) limited atonement, you're left with a beautiful picture of this God who is raising his children and creating them in His image and He does it through His atonement and His atonement won't fail…”

“When you announce good news, you don’t say, “Now this is what you need to do about it, you just tell people, and the news changes folks.”

"But if you’re a part of the institution, you want people to give to the budget, you want them to go on the church retreat, you want them to come help pull weeds in the garden. So, you’re always tempted to say, “believe this or…something.” Well, hell is a huge “or something.”

“The good news, the Word, it carries the power within itself, you don’t need to con anyone into obedience.”

“His goodness is beyond anything we’ve understood.”

"Regarding Romans 5 “As in Adam all die, so in Christ, all will be made alive, and it’s the best most beautiful news.”

“That sloppy universalism that just says ‘Oh God feels great about everybody and it doesn’t matter what you do.” It leaves everybody feeling empty because we all know something is really wrong with humanity and really wrong with me and my neighbor. I think scripture reveals that, yeah, were half made, were not finished yet. God is gonna destroy what is evil and create what’s good and you’re observing your own creation in Christ Jesus. And in the end, absolutely everything is a gift of your Father and you can’t even begin to comprehend how much He delights in you.”

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Mar 02 2022

1hr 25mins

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Jamie & Donna Winship / Our True Identity

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How to experience God, confession, faith, fear, freedom, our true identity, and cruciform, others-focused, self-emptying, unconditional love barely scratches the surface of this packed conversation on the goodness of God. Jamie and Donna Winship share how we can discover our true identity through a relationship with God and each other.

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“So, we lose the great commandment and pick up the great commission, we’re exchanging love for conflict.” Jamie

“Most people aren’t even aware that they are living separate from who they really are.” Donna

“Your true identity is the essence of who you are at your core and it’s something to be discovered through your lifetime and worked out in relationship. You cannot set apart your identity from relationship with God and relationship with other people.” Donna

“I think it’s important to note that your identity is not your gender, not your sexual preference, not your job, not your political party, not your religion…” Donna

“You can study business ethics all day long but if you’re in a scarcity model its always gonna come up to not enough.” Jamie

“You’re in a world that’s every day says “there’s not enough.” It’s the lie that we live in. But there is an alternative world view.” Jamie

“You can’t intellectually have faith. Faith comes from experience and experiential relationship.” Donna

“All identities we discover about ourselves are identities of Jesus in one form or another.” Donna

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Feb 16 2022

1hr 9mins

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Rod Williams / Union With Distinction

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Union, a Triune God, mutual indwelling others-centered love (perichoresis) approaching scripture to discover Jesus, and communion are some of the themes Rod Williams dives into. What if “all” means "all" and God isn’t distant? There is no distance, no separation in God and this conversation is a beautiful invitation to awaken to that discovery and our union with Him.

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"To build the kingdom of God you need a clear picture of Jesus that you communicate in love."

"If you’re believing in a little stick figure Jesus that you walk on to get to the real God, you're not believing in the real Jesus, you're believing in something we manufactured to build our empires."

"Still, today you'll hear people say ‘Well God is love but God is fear,’ which comes from our Greek dualism… the reality is God is not two conflicting things. We invented conflict, God is not in conflict.”

"No one comes to the Father but by me. We make that an exclusive statement but it's not, He’s saying 'I am here,' and this is why you can come to the Father."

“Here’s the deal, we can have a Father who can’t be in the presence of sin, or we can have Jesus be God, but we can’t have both.”

“Beholding is more important than explaining most of the time.”

"He does nothing as a judge he wouldn’t do as a father,” George McDonald

"God bless some of the movements we’ve been a part of because they talked about the Father Heart of God. But they didn’t go back and fix their theology."

“We can’t talk about union as a kinder gentler Arianism or a slightly more practical Gnosticism, we have to look at it as, 'This is LIFE.'”

“So many of the race problems and identity politics and all that stuff will just fade away as we begin to see we all have the same origin.”

“We were made to have ecstatic experiences in the mystical union with God.”

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Jan 31 2022

1hr 24mins

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Scot McKnight / A Church Called TOV

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Co-Author of A Church Called TOV, Scot McKnight talks about his new book written in response to the abuses of power, sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse within the leadership of Willow Creek, Harvest, and sadly churches of all shapes and sizes.

We talked about TOV (which means goodness) and how when we practice empathy, compassion, extending grace, putting people first, telling the truth, promoting justice, and serving others, TOV emerges in the culture and we all become more Christlike.

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Jan 14 2022

54mins

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Sexy Deconstruction? with Derek Turner & Jason Clark

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Matt Chandler, pastor, and writer, recently used the phrase “a sexy fad” when describing the deconstruction movement. Derek and Jason highlight his statement to dive into the nature of their own de/ and reconstruction. They have become even more convinced that God is in the restoration business.

This podcast dives into sin, grace, reconciliation, and God's love for all His kids, the church deep and wide. Ultimately, the guys kick off season three embracing Rom 8:38-29 “For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

Dec 28 2021

1hr 7mins

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Leaving (& Finding) Jesus with Derek Turner & Jason Clark

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God’s sovereignty revealed by Jesus through cruciform, self-giving love, the nature of trust, intimacy, and union, and the transforming truth that there is no shadow of turning with God, in this podcast the guys explore Jason’s upcoming book, Leaving (& finding) Jesus. This conversation juxtaposes an inclusive, reconciling, self-giving, unconditional view of God's love against an excluding, hierarchal, punishment-focused, conditional view of God's love. 

You can pre-purchase the book at http://afamilystory.org/product/pre-order-leaving-finding-jesus/ 

Jul 23 2021

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Offensively Good!

By Expense tracking - May 03 2020
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As I heard Jason say in the Brad Jersak episode. I have the pleasure of knowing Jason which why I listened to begin with. I don’t know Thomas, yet. Jason holds a unique space between streams of church and he keeps the balance very well while diverting enough of the what I’ll call the offensively good stream into the other prophetic/apostolic/revival stream to make it palatable and Lee the door open. He does so with grace and honor. It’s very unique. But with this podcast he has sort of busted the dam down and let it all come rushing in! So good! As it might be said in the revival stream, “fire.” 🔥 Excellent job fellas. Can’t wait to hear much more!

Shares God’s GOODNESS & GOOD News!!

By Rounnn - Apr 06 2020
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Listening to Jason and reading anything he writes is always so life-giving because he accurately represents the incredible goodness of God’s nature. The gospel is GOOD News, and Jason always highlights that. Naturally, the people he associates with share this positive view. His interview with William Paul Young (who wrote the The Shack”) and his co-host is a great example of this. Thank you guys, I appreciate you!!