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How The F**k Did You Get That Job?

Welcome to the show where two not-so-interesting guys ask interesting people one question and then interrupt them as they try to answer. This podcast started earlier in New York City when hosts of the show, David Jaffin and Jake Miller, asked people out to breakfast to make connections and pick their brains about how they got to where they are and advice to those wanting to follow in their footsteps. Now, they’ve learned how to work microphones … kind of.

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Welcome to the show where two not-so-interesting guys ask interesting people one question and then interrupt them as they try to answer. This podcast started earlier in New York City when hosts of the show, David Jaffin and Jake Miller, asked people out to breakfast to make connections and pick their brains about how they got to where they are and advice to those wanting to follow in their footsteps. Now, they’ve learned how to work microphones … kind of.

Ep. 89: Editor in Chief of Entrepreneur Magazine, Jason Feifer: How a Pretty Terrible Screenplay and a Passion for Journalism Led Him to the Top

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How the f**k did Jason Feifer go from writing about small-town sports to becoming editor in chief of a major magazine? Jason graduated from Clark University in 2002. He stayed in Massachusetts working as a reporter for five years before becoming an editor for Boston Magazine. After a year there he moved on to become a senior-level editor at some of the biggest name publications in the U.S. and around the world: Men’s Health, Fast Company, and Maxim just to name a few. In 2015 Jason began working at Entrepreneur media, and today, he is their editor in chief in addition to being a keynote speaker and hosting three podcasts and thus being three times better than us at life. Those podcasts are Pessimists Archive, Problem Solvers, and Hush Money. So how was he able to turn his passion for writing and sharing ideas into a career in journalism? And how is it that everything that comes out of his mouth is a lesson that anyone can apply to their own life?

Jan 04 2021

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Ep. 88: CEO of StarStock, Scott Greenberg: How He Went From Getting a B in Imagination Class to Becoming CEO of a Very Successful Sports Cards Company

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How the f**k did Scott Greenberg go from starting a company while still in college to becoming a CEO of a startup that has raised millions in capital? Scott graduated from Syracuse University with a degree in entrepreneurship. In 2016, while still in school, he co-founded his first company Pivt, a social network app focused on helping users settle into new cities by identifying and connecting them with their friends’ friends. In 2019, he left Pivt to start another company called StarStock. StarStock is a marketplace for sports fans and card hobbyists to buy, sell, and invest in their favorite athletes through sports cards in a centralized vault. The company has raised millions in capital and just this week at the time of our recording, StarStock added Kevin Durant to its list of investors that already includes the FanDuel co-founders, Matthew Dellavedova, and former guest of the show, AJ Vaynerchuk. Today, Scott is still the CEO of StarStock. So what did he gain from his Entrepreneurship degree? And what did he teach Jake about cards?

Dec 29 2020

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Ep. 87: Partner & Co-Chairman at Turn 2 Equity Partners, Peter Stein: How He Was Able to Jump From Job to Job Until He Landed at Three Different Ones

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How the f**k did Peter Stein go from working at a boarding school to now being a force in sports analytics and venture capital? Peter graduated from Amherst College in 2009. After that, he moved on to Suffield Academy where he was the Assistant Director of Marketing & Communications. He studied towards a Masters Degree in Sports Business at NYU. While earning his graduate degree, he left Suffield to work with the Brooklyn Nets, the New York Yankees, and Bloomberg Sports. After receiving his degree, he became involved in sports analytics and venture capital. Today he is a Partner & Co-Chairman at Turn 2 Equity Partners, Managing Director of SportsTech Ventures, and VC in Residence at Transition Sports & Entertainment. So how did Peter find his perfect co-founder? And how the heck does he do it all?

Dec 24 2020

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Ep. 86: Podcast Host of Freckled Foodie & Friends, Cameron Rogers: How Her Openness With Her Personal Life Helped Her Create an Extremely Successful Blog and Podcast

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How the f**k did Cameron Rogers go from hustling in the NYC trading scene to running her own super successful food blog and podcast? Cameron graduated from Lafayette with a degree in economics in 2013. She went on to JP Morgan where she worked in sales and trading. In 2018, Cameron left her finance job to pursue her passion for documenting and sharing her health journey. Thousands of followers later, today, she’s still creating content for Freckled Foodie and was named one of the five entrepreneurs changing New York’s wellness scene by Forbes. So what made her leave the sales and trading world for the entrepreneur life? And attention Dax Shepard: Why won’t you answer Cameron to be on her podcast?

Dec 18 2020

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Ep. 85: Senior Director of Creative Solutions at Clemson University Athletics, Tyson Hutchins: How This BYU Fan Ended Up at Clemson University Athletics Running Their Creative Solutions Team

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How the f**k did Tyson Hutchins go from looking at law schools to sending out Tweets for a living? Tyson graduated from Brigham Young University in 2017. After an internship with Mindquest, and a gig at another tech company, Mozenda during his time at school, he started working with his BYU’s athletic department. That eventually turned into a job and for three years Tyson was the Digital Content and New Media Coordinator at BYU. That was until January of 2020 when he officially made the move to Clemson, South Carolina. Today, he is the Senior Director of Creative Solutions at Clemson University Athletics. So how did Tyson switch career paths from the law world to the content creation and digital media world? And how does Jake feel about BYU’s Tanner Mangum and his soul-crushing, game-winning hail mary pass at a 2015 Nebraska football game?

Dec 15 2020

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Ep. 84: Director of Digital Marketing at Realtree, Bobby Redfern: How One of His Best Partnership at Realtree Started With a Pair of Camo UFC Shorts

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How the f**k did Bobby Redfern go from collecting vintage baseball bats to working for one of the strongest brands in the hunting industry? Bobby graduated from the University of South Carolina in the early 2000’s. He was a graphic designer for Pennington Seed before becoming the Marketing Director of AdDrive. After a brief stint there, Bobby moved on to become the Director of Product Development at Loud Door, LLC. He stayed with the company for over 8 years. Today, he is a self-proclaimed BBQ Pitmaster, Chili Champ, and Pinball Wizard. He is also the Director of Digital Marketing at the hunting apparel giant, Realtree. So what sparked Bobby’s interest in advertising? And what makes Bobby's BBQ so special?

Dec 11 2020

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Ep. 83: Creative Director at Let It Fly Media, Billy Quach: How a Quidditch Tournament and Football Practices with Patrick Mahomes Allowed Billy to Chase His Dream Job

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How the f**k did Billy Quach go from an engineering major to creating content for major sports teams and successful startups? Billy is among our most highly recommended guests, and we’re stoked to have him. He graduated from the University of Arkansas in 2017. During his time in school, Billy was a Video Production Assistant for the Razorback Sports Network and also a graphic designer for Major League Quidditch. Shortly after leaving Fayetteville, he was a Camera Operator for the Northwest Arkansas Naturals baseball team. Then, still in the summer of 2017, Billy left Arkansas to be a Production Assistant for the Kansas City Chiefs, eventually working his way up to Social Media Content Producer. He recently left the Chiefs to start his current gig as the Creative Director for Let It Fly Media, in addition to creating content for the NFL. So how did Billy’s camera purchase change his career path in college? And what’s the professional quidditch world really like?

Dec 08 2020

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Ep. 82: On Camera Analyst & Producer at The Morning Chalk-Up, CrossFit Inc., and Talking Elite Fitness, Tommy Marquez: How One Workout Solidified His Career in the Fitness World

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How the f**k did Tommy Marquez go from slinging beetles in science class to helping bring the CrossFit world to the masses? Tommy played lacrosse for Santa Clara University where he graduated in 2008. In 2011, he started working for Crossfit as an Associate Producer. Eventually, Tommy worked his way in front of the camera and worked as a producer and on-camera talent for Crossfit for over five years. In 2018, he moved on from the company to create content as a freelancer. Earlier this year Tommy raised over $30,000 for Color of Change and the NAACP Legal Defense Fund through his company XInjustice. Today, he is an on camera analyst and producer at CrossFit Inc., staff writer for the Morning Chalk-Up, and the co-host of the podcast Talking Elite Fitness. So how did Tommy’s career start in a barn which is infamous in the CrossFit world? And how did he get the fittest man in the world, some might say fittest man in history, on his podcast?

Dec 04 2020

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Ep. 81: CEO at Very Big Things, Chris Stegner: How His Entrepreneurial Skills Had His Entire Fourth-Grade Class Selling His Artwork and Now the World is Buying His Services at Very Big Things

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How the f**k did Chris Stegner go from selling candy and art at elementary school to creating a super successful tech startup? Chris is from Oklahoma City. He sold his first computer technology company around the time he was entering high school right before the dot-com bubble burst. He sold cars in Washington state for a bit after high school before moving to South Florida. There, he started to work with computers again. Chris spent the next decade working in a tech based role for several companies including Bitovian, Z9 Capital, and Mad Dev. In 2018, he started Very Big Things, a technology company which has been called South Florida’s most acclaimed startup and won a Webby award. Today he is still running Very Big Things. So how was he able to create such a successful business? And how similar is Chris to Matthew McConaughey?

Dec 03 2020

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Ep. 80: Senior Director of Baseball Player Relations at Wasserman, Yvonne Carrasco Chalmé: How She Created an Entire Sports Network Starting in the Tech Industry

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How the f**k did Yvonne Carrasco Chalmé build up her PR career by starting in the tech world and eventually working her way up to the legendary sports agency, Wasserman? Yvonne graduated from Boston University with a degree in Public Relations. She immediately found success in the field working for agencies like Golin and Sportivo and working with brands like Toyota and Nike. In 2007, Yvonne began working as a Public Relations Manager for the Los Angeles Dodgers and in just two years she was promoted to Assistant Director. In her 10 years with the Dodgers, Yvonne also worked for Team Mexico’s Media Relations team in three separate World Baseball Classics. In 2017, she moved on from the team side to the sports agency giant, Wasserman. Today she is an Executive Board Member of the Kenley Jensen Foundation and still the Senior Director of Baseball Player Relations at Wasserman. So how did she utilize all of skills sets to create the perfect position for herself at Wasserman? And did she really say it’s okay to sleep with socks on?

Nov 27 2020

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Ep. 79: Professor in the Department of Sport Management at Syracuse University, Dennis Deninger: How He Took His Expansive Career in Production and Started Incorporating His Craft into Lesson Plans

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How the f**k did Dennis Deninger go from working in radio to being part of one of the first teams at ESPN? Dennis graduated from Syracuse University in 1973. Five years after leaving Syracuse, he started working as an Executive Producer for WSVN Channel 7. In 1991, he started as a Coordinating Producer for ESPN in Bristol, Connecticut. In his 14 years at ESPN, Dennis rose to become Head of Digital Video Production for the company. During that time he also started teaching as a professor at his alma mater. After his time at ESPN, in 2008, Dennis started the company Deninger Media and produced a documentary called “America’s First Sport” about the game of lacrosse. He also began working as a full-time professor in Syracuse’s Sports Management department. Today he is still a professor at Falk college and continues to produce content. So how did he end up in working jobs that didn’t even exist while he was beginning his career path?

Nov 20 2020

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Ep. 78: Founder of Feel Your Soul, Jacob Zander: How He Began Filling Thousands of Orders of Shoe Soles, Political Cereal, and Converse Roller Skates

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How the f**k did Jacob Zander go from selling shoe soles to selling cereal boxes decorated with the presidential candidates? Jacob was attending Westmont College when he started executing this idea to make Chuck Taylors more comfortable with an insole that also had a story. A pitch contest won and some years later, he’s still telling that story on YouTube, his website, and TikTok, where he has over 225,000 followers. Recently, Jacob also took a page out of the AirBnB playbook and started making Trump and Biden themed cereals to sell during this election season. Today, he is still working full-time as the founder of Feel Your Soul. So how did he grow his business over TikTok? And are the Converse roller skates really comfortable or just for show?

Nov 18 2020

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Ep. 77: Creative Director at Grit Player Services and Graphic/Motion Designer at ScoreVision, Connor Dethlefs: How Handwritten Letters Led Him to a Job Designing on Computers

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How the f**k did Connor Dethlefs go from playing JV basketball in college (yes, that is a thing) to finding his passion in graphic design? Connor graduated from Nebraska Wesleyan University in 2016 where he played one season on what was the objectively the best dual affiliated NCAA Division III and NAIA Division II JV college basketball team to ever touch the floor. After graduating, Connor was a Senior Coach at College Possible helping improve the ACT scores and college acceptance rates for juniors and seniors in North Omaha. After that, Connor moved on to the customer service team of ScoreVision, a software company working on fan experience. Today, Connor is a graphic designer at ScoreVision, and the Creative Director of Grit Player Services, David and Jake’s company that’s miraculously still in business despite their leadership. So how did Connor make the leap from coaching basketball to graphic design? And why do some colleges still have JV teams?

Nov 16 2020

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Ep. 76: Content Correspondent, Video Operations, Partner and Freelancer, Mike Hunter: How Camtasia and Reddit Were Keys to This Guy’s Video Creation Success

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How the f**k did Mike Hunter go from high school student to making videos that have ended up on the social media accounts of huge names in the sports world? In high school, Mike started editing highlight videos of some of his favorite athletes and uploading them to YouTube. That channel eventually amassed over 70K subscribers and Mike started working as a freelance video editor. He’s done projects published on the social media handles of Shareef O'Neal, JuJu Smith-Schuster, DK Metcalf, Kevin Knox, Collin Johnson, Le'Veon Bell and several others. Before his senior year, Mike had earned a part time video editing role with Bleacher Report. Today, he still does freelance work, in addition to spending his weekends as a Live Content Correspondent for the NFL and a Video Operations Assistant at the University of Buffalo, where he is also a student set to graduate in 2023. So how was Mike able to build his career up before he even turned 20 years old? And does Batman count as a romantic comedy?

Nov 13 2020

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Ep. 75: Social Media & Influencer Strategist at Chipotle Mexican Grill, Adam Ornelas: How Skateboarding With Tony Hawk and Addison Rae is Just Another Day in the Office

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How the f**k did Adam Ornelas go from winning a business competition with an app he helped create to being part of the social team at Chipotle? Adam graduated from the University of New Mexico in his hometown of Albuquerque in 2013. Shortly after graduating, Adam co-founded a company called Culture Engineers. Adam spent a short time in Venice, California at Mark Cuban’s Recess Inc. before moving to Denver to join the marketing team of Whole Foods. Eventually, by 2018, he was leading content partnerships, digital tactics for new store openings, and new product launches as their Senior Marketing Manager of Global Social Media & Influencer Marketing. Adam has been recognized by AdWeek the last three years for his accomplishments thus far, and today, he is the Social Media & Influencer Strategist at Chipotle Mexican Grill leading all influencer activations, influencer content and the Chipotle Celebrity Card Program. So how did Adam get the confidence to up and move to cities all over the U.S.? And what is his Chipotle order?

Nov 12 2020

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Ep. 74: Director of Video/Post-Production at Auburn Athletics, Jeff Hanel: How Pumpkin Dunkin’ and Pure Passion Fuels His Many Hours Video Making

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How the f**k did Jeff Hanel go from selling Volvos to winning Emmy Awards for his incredible cinematography skills? Jeff graduated from Northwestern State University then went on to get his bachelor of performance in music from Edith Cowan University in Australia. After playing trombone for two years in the Western Australian Symphony Orchestra, Jeff tried his hand at sales in the European car industry. In 2009, Jeff created J.A.Y Hanel Productions, getting his feet wet in the content game. Jeff then transitioned into the college sports space in 2012, joining forces with  Baylor University as their associate director of athletic video production. In Waco, Jeff was tasked with providing creative content for all athletic programs. This takes us to the present day where Jeff is the director of video & post-production at Auburn University. Jeff is responsible for the creation of all sports content coming out of the prestigious Auburn University. So what was Jeff’s aha moment that got him into videography? And how do Volvo commercials fit into all of this?

Nov 09 2020

57mins

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Ep. 73: Director of Collegiate Programming for Thirty Five Ventures, Alex Sheinman: How a Failed Spartan Race Put Him on the Penn State Map

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How the f**k did Alex Sheinman take his entrepreneurial spirit and help create a huge sports business conference and a nonprofit organization among other things? Alex graduated from Penn State University in 2018. During his time in school he interned with the NFL and MLB. He also won the Michigan Sports Business Conference’s big initiative award and Co-founded the national renown Penn State Sports Business Conference. Upon graduating, Alex worked with Morgan Stanley for close to a year before becoming a Marketing Coordinator at the networking company Twenty. Today, he is still the Executive Director of the Penn State Sports Business Conference, a co-founder of the Makin’ Lemonade Fund, and spends most of his time as the Director of Collegiate Programming for Kevin Durant and Rich Kleinman’s thirtyFive Ventures. How did Alex make his mark at Penn State before even stepping on campus as a freshman? And how is he this knowledgeable just two years out of college?

Nov 06 2020

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Ep. 72: Production Assistant at Stanford Athletics, Kevin Edwards: How Holing Up in His Room to Edit Videos Paid Off in the Long Run

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How the f**k did Kevin Edwards go from being more skilled with the pen than the camera to shooting for teams like Stanford and the Niners? Kevin started his career in sports media as a writer for the Stanford University football blog, Rule Of Tree. From there he honed his skills in video and photo content, creating for places like VaynerSports, The Associated Press, and Turner Sports. Today, when he’s not busy trying to earn his undergraduate degree from Stanford, he’s working as a Live Content Correspondent for the NFL and a Production Assistant for the Stanford athletic department. So how did he grow in his video skills and his confidence in just a few years? And is he just killing it at the hometown Christmas parties?

Nov 04 2020

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Ep. 71: Producer at EA Sports, Erika Esola-Imburgio: How an Interview in the Women’s Locker Room Led Her to a Job at EA Sports

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How the f**k did Erika Esola-Imburgio go from covering sports at various Florida newspapers to working for one of the biggest video game companies in the nation? Erika graduated from University of Central Florida in 2011. During her time at school, Erika was a sports editor of the student newspaper, the Central Florida Future. Upon leaving campus, Erika was a Sports Editor for the Seminole Chronicle which led to her next job as a Digital Sports Curator at Florida Today. Staying in the sunshine state, Erika then pivoted to Pylon 7v7 Football as a Media Director. Today, Erika is a Producer at EA Sports specializing in all aspects of live content delivery for the video game giant as well as overseeing all aspects of player likeness, player ratings, sneaker and accessory updates. So how did she go from P.E. teacher EA Sports Producer? And how is the life of a Jets fan right now? (Hint: Not great.)

Nov 02 2020

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Ep. 70: CEO Triple Deke Media and RESET & Co-Founder of TikTok’s Honey House, JT Barnett: How He Went from Playing Hockey in Russia to Playing House in L.A. (While Getting Millions of Views)

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How the f**k did JT Barnett go from playing professional hockey in the U.S. and over in Europe to co-founding multiple brands including the famous adult TikTok house, HoneyHouse? JT left Notre Dame Preparatory School in 2008 to pursue a career in professional hockey. He rose through the Western Hockey League into the farm systems of NHL teams like the Arizona Coyotes, Boston Bruins, and Los Angeles Kings. In 2016 JT played for arguably the best professional team in Europe the CSKA Red Army for one season before hanging up the skates. In 2019, he founded RESET, a company that creates exclusive single day recovery events. Then a year later he co-founded the front facing hockey media platform, Triple Deke. Today, he runs both those companies in addition to founding the first adult TikTok house, the Honey House. So how did JT use his entrepreneurship skills to found three very successful brands? And how the heck did he play in a hockey league that spans over 10 different time zones?

Oct 30 2020

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Great listen!

By ACreegs - May 13 2020
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Thanks for making a great a podcast!! Give it a listen.

Quality listen

By boland123445 - May 13 2020
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Loved this podcast so much. Super informational and these boys seem rlly dope.