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The Emergent Strategy Podcast

The official podcast of the Emergent Strategy Ideation Institute - each episode we dive deeply into the life, practice and experimentation of a person or group who we see as living embodiments of emergent strategy. Emergent Strategy is about how we get in right relationship with change - what are the simple interactions that can shift and shape complex systems and patterns? Hosts are Sage Crump, Mia Herndon and adrienne maree brown.

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The official podcast of the Emergent Strategy Ideation Institute - each episode we dive deeply into the life, practice and experimentation of a person or group who we see as living embodiments of emergent strategy. Emergent Strategy is about how we get in right relationship with change - what are the simple interactions that can shift and shape complex systems and patterns? Hosts are Sage Crump, Mia Herndon and adrienne maree brown.

The Digital Apothecary with Moya Bailey

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Moya Bailey is a scholar, writer, and activist whose work focuses on how race, gender, and sexuality are represented in media and medicine. She is currently an associate professor in the Department of Communication Studies at Northwestern University. This week, Moya meets with Mia to explore the distinction between urgency and importance, being in but not of the academy, and the work of the Digital Apothecary.

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Dec 08 2022

56mins

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Answering Your Call with Nicole Newman and Aja Taylor

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Nicole Newman is a poet, writer, sister, and coach. Aja Taylor is a facilitator, sex educator, sister, and writer. Together, they co-founded Two Brown Girls Consulting Cooperative. This week, Nicole and Aja join adrienne to discuss creating more space, the practice of invitations, and science fiction as a source of politicization.


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Dec 01 2022

57mins

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Building New Worlds with Ashoka Finley

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Ashoka Finley is an emergent strategist and the founder of hypha, a subscription that funds climate solutions. This week, Ashoka and adrienne meet to talk about elemental practices, feeling wholeness in liminal spaces, and what it means to build a new world.


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Nov 24 2022

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Controlling Our Narrative with Vicki Meek

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Vicki Meek is an artist, curator, arts administrator, and cultural critic whose career spans decades. This week, Vicki joins Sage to talk about Elizabeth's Catlett's influence, collaborating with artists from different disciplines, and reimagining the Black archive.

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Nov 17 2022

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The Power of Play and Imagination with Chelsea Cleveland

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Chelsea Cleveland is an organizer, facilitator, and the co-founder of Hearing Youth Voices, a youth organization based in New London, CT. Chelsea joins Yanitza, facilitation cohort member and former ESII staff, and Mia, this week's ESII host, to talk about listening to disabled people, dreaming about an Octavia Butler tarot deck, and thinking of loneliness as a process of fermentation.


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Nov 10 2022

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Holding Change with Micky ScottBey Jones

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Micky ScottBey Jones, The Justice Doula, is an author, speaker, and healing justice practicioner. In this IG Live Interview, adrienne talks with Micky about brave space, plagiarism, accountability, call-outs, and learning in public.


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Nov 03 2022

56mins

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Imagining What's On The Other Side with Makani Themba

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Makani Themba is an author, innovator, and currently the Chief Strategist at Higher Ground Change Strategies based in Jackson, MS. A long-time organizer, Makani meets with ESII host, Sage, to discuss genealogies, the economy as a set of relationships, and the power of imagination.


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Oct 27 2022

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Black Feminist Futures with Paris Hatcher

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Paris Hatcher is the executive director of Black Feminist Future, a political hub focused on the dynamic possibilities of galvanizing the social and political power of Black women, girls, and gender-expansive people towards liberation. Paris joins Mia to talk about being deliberately emergent, learning from the natural world, and Black feminism as a call to transformative justice.

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Oct 20 2022

55mins

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Metabolizing Fear with Briana Herman-Brand

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Briana Herman-Brand is a teacher, facilitator, and parent. This week, she joins adrienne to talk about trusting from within, the possibilities of co-housing, and unlearning processes from white supremacist culture.

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Oct 13 2022

56mins

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Declaring the Self You Want with Alta Starr

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A sonic treat this week with BOLD organizer Alta Starr. Alta is a bodyworker, organizer, poet, and tarot reader. Alta converses with ESII host, Sage, about existentialism, our agency when it comes to imbuing circumstance with meaning (or not), and tarot use for less predictive outcomes and more as a space for reflection, play, and reinterpretation of the world around us. 

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Oct 06 2022

48mins

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Minding Your Relations with Adaku Utah

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Adaku Utah is a 6th generation Igbo healer and the organizing director of the National Network of Abortion Funds. Adaku and Mia meet to talk about organizing and providing services to communities outside of the parameters of the state, and Adaku points to the work that is required for tending to our relationships. They also leads listeners through a centering practice. So find a place that brings you comfort and press play.   

Sep 29 2022

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Civic Alchemy with Yazmany Arboleda

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Yazmany Arboleda is the People's Artist for New York City through the Civic Engagement Commission. This week, Yazmany joins adrienne to talk about the possibilities of creating an active, experimental, and more imaginative and democratic engagement with the people who make up a place. 

Sep 22 2022

54mins

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Disrupting White Dominant Culture with ashley sparks

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ashley sparks is a theater maker, facilitator, engagement strategist, and collaboration coach and consultant. ashley joins Sage this week on the Emergent Strategy Podcast to talk about bringing their artistry into activism spaces, getting buttoned up adults to soften, and the grieving that comes when parts of ourselves need to be let go or are challenged.


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Sep 15 2022

52mins

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Yin Timing with Lindsay Fauntleroy

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Acupuncturist or Blacupuncturist, Lindsay Fauntleroy, joins ESII host, Mia, for a conversation about possible overlap between African-based traditions and Chinese medicine. She is also the author of the new book In Our Element: Using the Five Elements as Soul Medicine to Unleash Your Personal Power, and Lindsay talks to Mia about the beauty and practice of yin timing.   

Sep 08 2022

1hr 8mins

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Filling the Gap with Caitlin Breedlove

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Caitlin Breedlove is the current Deputy Executive Director at the Women's March and author of a forthcoming book about her experience with ovarian cancer. A long time organizer, Caitlin meets with ESII host, adrienne, to discuss how approaching and experiencing cancer has informed her work as an organizer and vice versa. Caitlin and adrienne also talk about writing close to the bone (hint: it involves losing lots of preamble). 

Sep 01 2022

55mins

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Radical Grievance with Malkia Devich Cyril

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Grief is power and grief as a way to strength and intimacy are some of the ideas that this week's Emergent Strategy Podcast guest, Malkia Devich-Cyril, explores with host, Sage. An illuminating conversation about an honest collective embrace of grief that might also aid in our emphasis on belonging. 

This is our last episode until September. ESII is going on summer break! Have a beautiful summer and there will be more of season 2 in the fall. Thank you for listening!

Jun 30 2022

50mins

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Embodied Decolonization with Camille Barton

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Artist and embodiment educator, Camille Barton, talks with ESII host, adrienne, about art, somatics, and strides to move towards a more decolonized inner (and outer) world. Camille has learned that somatics is less about relaxation and more about being able to sit with and feel more. 

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Jun 23 2022

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Slowness, Intention, and Ease with Latham Thomas Part 2

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Latham Thomas continues her conversation with ESII host, Mia. Latham is an entrepreneur, self-care sorceress and founder of Mama Glow, New York's premiere maternity lifestyle brand committed to supporting women and birthing people along the childbearing continuum. In part two of their conversation, Latham talks about Mama Glow, care work needing to be valued, the difference between a passion and a calling, and sitting with the question "does it tire me or does it inspire me"?  

Jun 16 2022

35mins

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Slowness, Ease, and Intention with Latham Thomas Part 1

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"The Universe rewards courage," says Latham Thomas, founder of Mama Glow and this week's Emergent Strategy Podcast guest. In part one, of a two-part interview, Latham joins longtime friend and ESII host, Mia Herndon, to talk about working towards a rhythm that works for you, tending to the things that we want to see come to fruition, and the practice of care.   

Jun 09 2022

53mins

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Slowing Down Your Slow Down with Geoffrey Jackson Scott

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Geoffrey Jackson Scott is a culture organizer, engagement strategist, creative producer and co-founder of Peoplmovr, which works with people to design strategies that move people towards liberation. Geoffrey joins ESII host, Sage, to talk about the physical, spiritual, and mental spaces his work asks of him and some of the components of what it takes to facilitate deeper change and understanding.    

Jun 02 2022

56mins

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