When Gloria Steinem co-founded Ms. magazine, she wanted a cover image that would break completely with the norms of the day. There would be no high-end models and no teasers for makeup tips. Instead, the preview issue featured a goddess with eight arms. And she was blue. Kim speaks with Gloria and also with the magazine’s first editor, Suzanne Braun Levine, about the ways women had been visually portrayed until their groundbreaking publication hit the newsstands, and how the staff at Ms. worked to turn those stereotypes on their head. See the portraits we discuss: Pauline Perlmutter Steinem Gloria Steinem and Dorothy Pitman Hughes, 1971 Marilyn Monroe Student Protest Susan B. Anthony Ms. magazine preview cover Gloria Steinem and Dorothy Pitman Hughes, 2013

When Gloria Steinem co-founded Ms. magazine, she wanted a cover image that would break completely with the norms of the day. There would be no high-end models and no teasers for makeup tips. Instead, the preview issue featured a goddess with eight arms. And she was blue. Kim speaks with Gloria and also with the magazine’s first editor, Suzanne Braun Levine, about the ways women had been visually portrayed until their groundbreaking publication hit the newsstands, and how the staff at Ms. worked to turn those stereotypes on their head. See the portraits we discuss: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CEIBXuPlUGu/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Pauline Perlmutter Steinem</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2005.121?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dgloria%252Bsteinem" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Gloria Steinem and Dorothy Pitman Hughes</a>, 1971 <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_S_NPG.84.273.C?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dmarilyn" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Marilyn Monroe</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.78.TC108?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dstudent%252Bprotest%252Btime%252Bmagazine" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Student Protest</a> <a href="https://www.loc.gov/resource/cph.3c14833/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Susan B. Anthony</a> <a href="https://msmagazine.com/about/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ms. magazine preview cover</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2017.105?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dgloria%252Bsteinem" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Gloria Steinem and Dorothy Pitman Hughes</a>, 2013

A Cover Like No Other

Dr. Dorothy Andersen solved a vexing medical mystery by identifying cystic fibrosis. But the mystery of her missing portrait remained unsolved. This week, we're featuring an episode from the Lost Women of Science podcast about a physician who changed the way we understand acute lung and gastrointestinal problems in small children. But if she was such a medical heavyweight, why did her 1963 portrait disappear from Columbia University's Babies Hospital? The answer tells us something about the perils of memorialization.

Dr. Dorothy Andersen solved a vexing medical mystery by identifying cystic fibrosis. But the mystery of her missing portrait remained unsolved. This week, we're featuring an episode from the <a href="http://www.lostwomenofscience.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lost Women of Science</a> podcast about a physician who changed the way we understand acute lung and gastrointestinal problems in small children. But if she was such a medical heavyweight, why did her 1963 portrait disappear from Columbia University's Babies Hospital? The answer tells us something about the perils of memorialization.

BONUS: The Case of the Missing Portrait

Washington Post editorial cartoonist Ann Telnaes says her profession serves as a canary in the coalmine for freedom of expression, a kind of oxygen monitor for democracy itself. When cartoonists are ducking for cover, she says, you'd better watch out. She also shares with Kim why she made the jump from Disney animator to thick-skinned political commentator, through drawing. Then Wendy Wick Reaves, who procured stacks and stacks of political cartoons for the National Portrait Gallery, explains why President Nixon with a Pinocchio nose is indeed a form of portraiture. Find Ann’s work on Twitter, @AnnTelnaes. See other images we discuss: Polly Got A Cracker, by Charles Nelan Anti-Cartoon Bill Defiance The Watergate Bug, by Patrick Oliphant The Credibility Gulf Stream, by Draper Hill The Gulf Stream, by Winslow Homer

Washington Post editorial cartoonist <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/ann-telnaes/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ann Telnaes</a> says her profession serves as a canary in the coalmine for freedom of expression, a kind of oxygen monitor for democracy itself. When cartoonists are ducking for cover, she says, you'd better watch out. She also shares with Kim why she made the jump from Disney animator to thick-skinned political commentator, through drawing. Then Wendy Wick Reaves, who procured stacks and stacks of political cartoons for the National Portrait Gallery, explains why President Nixon with a Pinocchio nose is indeed a form of portraiture. Find Ann’s work on Twitter, <a href="https://twitter.com/AnnTelnaes" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">@AnnTelnaes.</a> See other images we discuss: <a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Polly_Got_a_Cracker_-_Nelan_1903.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Polly Got A Cracker, by Charles Nelan</a> <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2017/05/07/the-barometer-of-a-free-press/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Anti-Cartoon Bill Defiance</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2002.176" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Watergate Bug, by Patrick Oliphant</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2006.50" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Credibility Gulf Stream, by Draper Hill</a> <a href="https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/11122" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Gulf Stream, by Winslow Homer</a>

Pinocchio Noses and Plug-In Halos

Indra Nooyi grew up in a conservative Brahmin household in India, but that didn’t stop her from playing cricket with her brother’s friends, or from joining an all-girl rock band. Years later, when she ascended to the top job at PepsiCo, she would push the boundaries again as one of the few women running a Fortune 500 company. Nooyi talks to Kim about why she initially shrank from the press when she arrived in the C-suite, and how she wanted to be seen in her own portrait as an American Portrait Gala honoree. See the portraits we discuss: Indra Nooyi Meg Whitman Anne Catherine Hoof Green Martha Stewart

Indra Nooyi grew up in a conservative Brahmin household in India, but that didn’t stop her from playing cricket with her brother’s friends, or from joining an all-girl rock band. Years later, when she ascended to the top job at PepsiCo, she would push the boundaries again as one of the few women running a Fortune 500 company. Nooyi talks to Kim about why she initially shrank from the press when she arrived in the C-suite, and how she wanted to be seen in her own portrait as an American Portrait Gala honoree. See the portraits we discuss: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2019.4?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dindra%252Bnooyi" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Indra Nooyi</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_S_NPG.2002.65?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dmeg%252Bwhitman" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Meg Whitman</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.91.152?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dann%252Bcatherine" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Anne Catherine Hoof Green</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2009.17?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dmartha%252Bstewart" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Martha Stewart</a>

The Business End Of Portraiture

From our fellow Smithsonian podcast, Sidedoor, the story of Edmonia Lewis— the first sculptor of African American and Native American (Mississauga) descent to achieve international fame. Her 3,000-pound masterwork, “The Death of Cleopatra,” commemorated another powerful woman who broke with convention… and then it disappeared. See Edmonia Lewis’s portrait here.

From our fellow Smithsonian podcast, Sidedoor, the story of Edmonia Lewis— the first sculptor of African American and Native American (Mississauga) descent to achieve international fame. Her 3,000-pound masterwork, “The Death of Cleopatra,” commemorated another powerful woman who broke with convention… and then it disappeared. See Edmonia Lewis’s portrait <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.94.95" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.

BONUS: Finding Cleopatra

Before cable news and email and Twitter, it was the postal service that transmitted ideas and information across land, sea, and political divides. Kim speaks with National Postal Museum chief curator Dan Piazza about some of the messages that stamps themselves were communicating, including a few asides from Philatelist-in-Chief, Franklin D. Roosevelt. We also pair some noteworthy stamps to original artwork that lives right here at the National Portrait Gallery. See the portraits we discuss: Benjamin Franklin by Duplessis Franklin’s stamp Roosevelt and the Little White House Roosevelt at his desk Susan B. Anthony, bronze bust Susan B. Anthony, three cents Susan B. Anthony, photograph Susan B. Anthony, fifty cents Jean Baptiste Pointe du Sable Benjamin Banneker

Before cable news and email and Twitter, it was the postal service that transmitted ideas and information across land, sea, and political divides. Kim speaks with National Postal Museum chief curator Dan Piazza about some of the messages that stamps themselves were communicating, including a few asides from Philatelist-in-Chief, Franklin D. Roosevelt. We also pair some noteworthy stamps to original artwork that lives right here at the National Portrait Gallery. See the portraits we discuss: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.87.43" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Benjamin Franklin by Duplessis</a> <a href="https://www.si.edu/object/29c-benjamin-franklin-single%3Anpm_1994.2073.263.21.1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Franklin’s stamp</a> <a href="https://postalmuseum.si.edu/object/npm_1980.2493.2973" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Roosevelt and the Little White House</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_S_NPG.84.298?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fpage%3D2%26edan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dfranklin%252B%252Bdelano%252Broosevelt" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Roosevelt at his desk</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.72.116?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dsusan%252Bb.%252Banthony" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Susan B. Anthony, bronze bust</a> <a href="https://postalmuseum.si.edu/object/npm_1980.2493.2678" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Susan B. Anthony, three cents</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.77.255?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dsusan%252Bb.%252Banthony" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Susan B. Anthony, photograph</a> <a href="https://postalmuseum.si.edu/object/npm_2008.2007.8" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Susan B. Anthony, fifty cents</a> <a href="https://postalmuseum.si.edu/exhibition/the-black-experience-early-pioneers/jean-baptiste-pointe-du-sable" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jean Baptiste Pointe du Sable</a> <a href="https://postalmuseum.si.edu/exhibition/the-black-experience-early-pioneers/benjamin-banneker" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Benjamin Banneker</a>

Postal Pairings

José Andrés is the Michelin-starred chef known for jumping into action to feed people affected by hurricanes, wildfires, and most recently the war in Ukraine. But he’s also a huge admirer of a woman whose photograph lives at the National Portrait Gallery– the Civil War nurse Clara Barton. Museum director Kim Sajet talks with Andrés about his call for ‘longer tables,’ and also takes us down the block to Barton’s old digs to see how their stories overlap. See Clara Barton’s portrait here.

José Andrés is the Michelin-starred chef known for jumping into action to feed people affected by hurricanes, wildfires, and most recently the war in Ukraine. But he’s also a huge admirer of a woman whose photograph lives at the National Portrait Gallery– the Civil War nurse Clara Barton. Museum director Kim Sajet talks with Andrés about his call for ‘longer tables,’ and also takes us down the block to Barton’s old digs to see how their stories overlap. See Clara Barton’s portrait <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2013.2?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3DClara%252BBarton" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.

A Shortcut Across Time

The House committee investigation into the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol has generated a lot of interest in one of the National Portrait Gallery’s latest commissions -- an official portrait of former President Donald Trump. So we decided to revisit an episode that takes a spin through the ‘America’s Presidents’ exhibition. Director Kim Sajet digs into the thorny question of what a presidential portrait is meant to convey, especially if the president in question has been impeached. Should it carry the glow of prestige, or the markers of personal failings? Is this gallery hallowed ground, or a place to question power? "If you're in the business of showing these paintings," says Washington Post art critic Philip Kennicott, "you want to send people out a little hungry." Also featuring former deputy director Carolyn Carr. See the portraits we discuss here: President James Buchanan President Richard Nixon President George H. W. Bush President Bill Clinton  President George W. Bush President Barack Obama

The House committee investigation into the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol has generated a lot of interest in one of the National Portrait Gallery’s latest commissions -- an official portrait of former President Donald Trump. So we decided to revisit an episode that takes a spin through the <a href="https://americaspresidents.si.edu/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">‘America’s Presidents’ exhibition</a>. Director Kim Sajet digs into the thorny question of what a presidential portrait is meant to convey, especially if the president in question has been impeached. Should it carry the glow of prestige, or the markers of personal failings? Is this gallery hallowed ground, or a place to question power? "If you're in the business of showing these paintings," says Washington Post art critic <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/philip-kennicott/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Philip Kennicott</a>, "you want to send people out a little hungry." Also featuring former deputy director Carolyn Carr. See the portraits we discuss here: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.65.48" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">President James Buchanan</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.72.2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">President Richard Nixon</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.95.120" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">President George H. W. Bush</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2006.1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">President Bill Clinton </a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2008.51" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">President George W. Bush</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2018.16" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">President Barack Obama</a>

BONUS: Portraying The Presidents

Atlantic editor Vann R. Newkirk II talks to Kim about the mutability of memory, as seen through two portraits of the abolitionist John Brown. He also explains how a photograph of his mom helped him to appreciate the fragility of democracy in the United States, and why he tries to keep a garden wherever he goes. See the portraits we discuss: George Washington Carver John Brown daguerreotype John Brown painting Marylin Thurman Newkirk

Atlantic editor <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/author/vann-newkirk/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Vann R. Newkirk II</a> talks to Kim about the mutability of memory, as seen through two portraits of the abolitionist John Brown. He also explains how a photograph of his mom helped him to appreciate the fragility of democracy in the United States, and why he tries to keep a garden wherever he goes. See the portraits we discuss: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.65.77?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dgeorge%252Bwashington%252Bcarver" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">George Washington Carver</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.96.123?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Djohn%252Bbrown" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">John Brown daguerreotype</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.74.2?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Djohn%252Bbrown" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">John Brown painting</a> <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2021/02/vann-newkirk/617916/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Marylin Thurman Newkirk</a>

Things We Take For Granted

Photography and the Civil War crashed into one another, making it affordable for soldiers to have their picture taken before going off to war. What Black soldiers communicated in these images was a desire not just for freedom, but for citizenship. But they didn't always control how their photographs were used. Drs. Deborah Willis and Rhea Combs talk with Kim about the photographs taken of - and for - Civil War Soldiers. Because it turns out there’s a big difference. See the portraits we discuss: Harper’s Weekly special edition Gordon after his escape Peter with scarred back Tintype of soldier Soldier with painted backdrop

Photography and the Civil War crashed into one another, making it affordable for soldiers to have their picture taken before going off to war. What Black soldiers communicated in these images was a desire not just for freedom, but for citizenship. But they didn't always control how their photographs were used. Drs. Deborah Willis and Rhea Combs talk with Kim about the photographs taken of - and for - Civil War Soldiers. Because it turns out there’s a big difference. See the portraits we discuss: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2012.78?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fpage%3D2%26edan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dgordon" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Harper’s Weekly special edition</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2016.18?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dgordon" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Gordon after his escape</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2002.89?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dpeter" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Peter with scarred back</a> <a href="https://www.si.edu/object/tintype-civil-war-soldier:nmaahc_2011.51.12" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tintype of soldier</a> <a href="https://images.app.goo.gl/SKd3ivZ4grUVWJ3c9" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Soldier with painted backdrop</a>

Glimpsing Freedom

Art, biography, history and identity collide in this podcast from the Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery. Join Director Kim Sajet as she chats with artists, historians, and thought leaders about the big and small ways that portraits shape our world.

George Takei went boldly where no man had gone before when he broke racial stereotypes to play Mr. Sulu on Star Trek. But he's also lent his celebrity (and his sharp-witted Twitter feed) to a stack of social causes. George traces his activism to a single, searing injustice-- his internment as a Japanese-American during WWII. He was five years old. See the portraits we discuss: George Takei as Hikaru Sulu Wayne Collins They Called Us Enemy Takei at Rohwer dedication ceremony

George Takei went boldly where no man had gone before when he broke racial stereotypes to play Mr. Sulu on Star Trek. But he's also lent his celebrity (and his sharp-witted Twitter feed) to a stack of social causes. George traces his activism to a single, searing injustice-- his internment as a Japanese-American during WWII. He was five years old. See the portraits we discuss: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2015.114?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dgeorge%252Btakei" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">George Takei as Hikaru Sulu</a> <a href="http://remembrance-project.janm.org/tributes/wayne-collins.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Wayne Collins</a> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/They-Called-Enemy-George-Takei/dp/1603094504" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">They Called Us Enemy</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2019.116?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dtakei" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Takei at Rohwer dedication ceremony</a>

Live Long and Protest

Dr. Chien-Shiung Wu was a towering figure in science whose parity experiment shattered our understanding of the physical world. She enjoyed rockstar status in China, met the pope, inspired an opera and even became a “Jeopardy!” question. But to Jada Yuan, she was grandma. See the portraits we discuss: Dr. Wu in the lab Tsung-Dao Lee, Nobel Laureate Chen-Ning Yang, Nobel Laureate Dr. Wu on the forever stamp Also, check out Jada Yuan’s article about her grandmother here!

Dr. Chien-Shiung Wu was a towering figure in science whose parity experiment shattered our understanding of the physical world. She enjoyed rockstar status in China, met the pope, inspired an opera and even became a “Jeopardy!” question. But to Jada Yuan, she was grandma. See the portraits we discuss: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2015.12?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dchien-shiung" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Wu in the lab</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.98.112?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3DTsung%252BDao-Lee" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tsung-Dao Lee, </a>Nobel Laureate <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.98.113?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dchen%252Bning%252Byang" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Chen-Ning Yang</a>, Nobel Laureate <a href="https://about.usps.com/newsroom/local-releases/ma/2021/0201ma-nuclear-physicist-chien-shiung-wu-to-be-honored-on-forever-stamp.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Wu on the forever stamp</a> Also, check out Jada Yuan’s article about her grandmother <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2021/12/13/chien-shiung-wu-biography-physics-grandmother/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>!

The Woman Who Knocked Science Sideways

Dolores Huerta

Grassroots organizer Dolores Huerta talks to Kim about her first encounter with the deep poverty of California farmworkers in the 1950s, and how she took on the status quo (in a wrinkled sweater) during the landmark Delano Grape Strike. All the time, she fought on two fronts: resisting exploitation and also resisting sexism, sometimes from within the very labor movement she helped to launch. See the portraits we discuss: Huerta with ‘Huelga’ Sign Huerta at Delano Grape Strike Huerta with Fred Ross Huerta by Barbara Carrasco Gloria Steinem and Dorothy Pitman Hughes

Grassroots organizer Dolores Huerta talks to Kim about her first encounter with the deep poverty of California farmworkers in the 1950s, and how she took on the status quo (in a wrinkled sweater) during the landmark Delano Grape Strike. All the time, she fought on two fronts: resisting exploitation and also resisting sexism, sometimes from within the very labor movement she helped to launch. See the portraits we discuss: <a href="https://www.si.edu/newsdesk/photos/dolores-huerta-huelga-during-grape-strike-delano-california-sept-24-1965" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Huerta with ‘Huelga’ Sign</a> <a href="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Eefx6IDI39Qejfj-YQNAZ7D74dC08I-UROpI3eGx9bI/edit#slide=id.g11eb8b33c16_0_14" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Huerta at Delano Grape Strike</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_S_NPG.2016.137?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Ddolores%252Bhuerta" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Huerta with Fred Ross</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2015.23?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Ddolores%252Bhuerta" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Huerta by Barbara Carrasco</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2005.121?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Fedan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3DGloria%252Bsteinem" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Gloria Steinem and Dorothy Pitman Hughes</a>

Dolores Huerta: Yes She Did!

Kim Sajet, director of the National Portrait Gallery, examines the stories of people who say “No” to the status quo. Guests this season include Dolores Huerta, who fought chauvinism within the very farmworkers movement she helped to launch, plus chef José Andrés, who has been building resilience “one meal at a time” in battle zones and areas struck by natural disaster. Tune in starting May 17.

Kim Sajet, director of the National Portrait Gallery, examines the stories of people who say “No” to the status quo. Guests this season include Dolores Huerta, who fought chauvinism within the very farmworkers movement she helped to launch, plus chef José Andrés, who has been building resilience “one meal at a time” in battle zones and areas struck by natural disaster. Tune in starting May 17.

Season 4 Trailer

Since it was founded over a long lunch in Boston in 1857, The Atlantic has featured presidents and poets, abolitionists and suffragists— men and women set on advancing The American Idea. This episode, Kim takes the magazine’s editor-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, on an ‘Atlantic alumni’ tour, stopping in front of a bust of Martin Luther King Jr. and a life-size painting of Mark Twain. Their conversation previews an upcoming collaboration between The Atlantic and the National Portrait Gallery that will look at the portraits of yesterday’s disruptors through the lens of today. See the portraits we discuss: Harriet Beecher Stowe Henry Wadsworth Longfellow Julia Ward Howe Mark Twain Martin Luther King Jr. 

Since it was founded over a long lunch in Boston in 1857, The Atlantic has featured presidents and poets, abolitionists and suffragists— men and women set on advancing The American Idea. This episode, Kim takes the magazine’s editor-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, on an ‘Atlantic alumni’ tour, stopping in front of a bust of Martin Luther King Jr. and a life-size painting of Mark Twain. Their conversation previews an upcoming collaboration between The Atlantic and the National Portrait Gallery that will look at the portraits of yesterday’s disruptors through the lens of today. See the portraits we discuss: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.68.1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Harriet Beecher Stowe</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2019.69" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Henry Wadsworth Longfellow</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.65.31" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Julia Ward Howe</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.81.116" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Mark Twain</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.74.36" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Martin Luther King Jr. </a>

Yesterday's Disruptors... Today

After having to destroy her family pictures during the Cultural Revolution in China, artist Hung Liu treasures old photographs all the more. In fact, they’re foundational to her work. She has described her portraits like a memorial site for people forgotten to history-- comfort women, farm workers, refugees. As the Gallery launches a retrospective of her artwork, we trace Hung's life through some of the images she's collected and created, from her rendering of a resident alien card in which she renames herself 'Fortune Cookie,' to her painting commemorating the violent Tiananmen Square crackdown. See the images we discuss: https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/Un-forgetting%20History

After having to destroy her family pictures during the Cultural Revolution in China, artist Hung Liu treasures old photographs all the more. In fact, they’re foundational to her work. She has described her portraits like a memorial site for people forgotten to history-- comfort women, farm workers, refugees. As the Gallery launches a retrospective of her artwork, we trace Hung's life through some of the images she's collected and created, from her rendering of a resident alien card in which she renames herself 'Fortune Cookie,' to her painting commemorating the violent Tiananmen Square crackdown. <a href="https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/Un-forgetting%20History" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">See the images we discuss</a>: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/Un-forgetting%20History" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/Un-forgetting%20History</a>

Un-forgetting History

These last few weeks brought jolting discoveries at residential schools in Canada— unmarked grave sites thought to contain the remains of hundreds of Indigenous children who went missing. The news was a visceral reminder that systemic racism and discrimination can literally bury the past. So we decided to revisit an episode about a woman who— unlike so many Indigenous people of her time— was celebrated by Colonial America, and actually had a portrait done: Pocahontas. Curator and author Paul Chaat Smith sifts through what we know, and what we think we know, about this iconic figure. See the portraits we discussed: Pocahontas, painting Pocahontas, engraving

These last few weeks brought jolting discoveries at residential schools in Canada— unmarked grave sites thought to contain the remains of hundreds of Indigenous children who went missing. The news was a visceral reminder that systemic racism and discrimination can literally bury the past. So we decided to revisit an episode about a woman who— unlike so many Indigenous people of her time— was celebrated by Colonial America, and actually had a portrait done: Pocahontas. Curator and author <a href="https://www.paulchaatsmith.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Paul Chaat Smith</a> sifts through what we know, and what we think we know, about this iconic figure. See the portraits we discussed: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.65.61?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Freturn_all%3D1%26edan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dpocahontas" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Pocahontas, painting</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.72.65?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Freturn_all%3D1%26edan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dpocahontas" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Pocahontas, engraving</a>

BONUS: Who Was Pocahontas Really?

Ellen Stofan

Dr. Ellen Stofan is a planetary geologist who has spent a lot of time looking up at the stars and thinking about life outside our planet. But in this episode, she talks with Kim about the portraits of some of her favorite earth dwellers. Among the trailblazers she highlights: a judge who fought for women's rights and a marine biologist who challenged the way we see ourselves in relation to the natural world.  See the portraits: Rachel Carson and the Blue Marble Shot The Four Justices Althea Gibson

<a href="https://www.si.edu/about/bios/ellen-stofan" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr. Ellen Stofan</a> is a planetary geologist who has spent a lot of time looking up at the stars and thinking about life outside our planet. But in this episode, she talks with Kim about the portraits of some of her favorite earth dwellers. Among the trailblazers she highlights: a judge who fought for women's rights and a marine biologist who challenged the way we see ourselves in relation to the natural world. See the portraits: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2006.79?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Freturn_all%3D1%26edan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Drachel%252Bcarson" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Rachel Carson </a>and the <a href="https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/the-blue-marble-the-view-from-apollo-17" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Blue Marble Shot</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2020.130?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Freturn_all%3D1%26edan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dthe%252Bfour%252Bjustices" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Four Justices</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.93.363?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Freturn_all%3D1%26edan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Dalthea%252Bgibson" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Althea Gibson</a>

Ellen Stofan Sees Stars Here On Earth

The 1862 painting "Men of Progress" depicts a group of inventors credited with "altered the course of contemporary civilization.” Between them, they found more efficient ways to sew clothing, harvest crops and even send telegraph messages. In fact, the Smithsonian’s first secretary stands in the middle. But as cultural anthropologist Richard Kurin notes, many people have been left out of this tableau. To mark the Smithsonian’s 175th anniversary, we ask current Sec. Lonnie Bunch to give the painting an update. See the portraits: Men of Progress Solomon Brown James Smithson Frederick Douglass Eleanor Roosevelt Dorothy Height

The 1862 painting "Men of Progress" depicts a group of inventors credited with "altered the course of contemporary civilization.” Between them, they found more efficient ways to sew clothing, harvest crops and even send telegraph messages. In fact, the Smithsonian’s first secretary stands in the middle. But as cultural anthropologist Richard Kurin notes, many people have been left out of this tableau. To mark the Smithsonian’s 175th anniversary, we ask current Sec. Lonnie Bunch to give the painting an update. See the portraits: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.65.60" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Men of Progress</a> <a href="https://siarchives.si.edu/history/featured-topics/stories/solomon-brown-first-african-american-employee-smithsonian-institution" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Solomon Brown</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.96.28" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">James Smithson</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.74.45" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Frederick Douglass</a> <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.2012.77.89?destination=edan-search/default_search%3Freturn_all%3D1%26edan_local%3D1%26edan_q%3Deleanor%252Broosevelt" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Eleanor Roosevelt</a> <a href="https://www.si.edu/object/untitled:nmaahc_2011.15.7" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dorothy Height</a>

People of Progress

Phillis Wheatley

Phillis Wheatley was a literary superstar around the time of the American Revolutionary War— a distinction she notched up while writing in bondage. But she never wrote an account of her own experiences, and there are gaps in her story. The Gallery’s Ashleigh Coren and writer Honorée Jeffers ask us to re-imagine her life, drawn in poetry. See Wheatley’s portrait here.

Phillis Wheatley was a literary superstar around the time of the American Revolutionary War— a distinction she notched up while writing in bondage. But she never wrote an account of her own experiences, and there are gaps in her story. The Gallery’s <a href="https://womenshistory.si.edu/news/2020/04/curator-ashleigh-d-coren-shares-womens-stories-through-portraits" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ashleigh Coren</a> and writer <a href="https://honoreejeffers.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Honorée Jeffers</a> ask us to re-imagine her life, drawn in poetry. See Wheatley’s portrait <a href="https://npg.si.edu/object/npg_NPG.77.2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.

Phillis Wheatley Redrawn

Thanks Kim for another great episode. Looking forward to the exhibition.

Another great episode

I just listened to the first epsode and I&#39;ll definitely be back for more.

great new series from the smithsonian!

Art, biography, history and identity collide in this podcast from the Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery. Join Director Kim Sajet as she chats with artists, historians, and thought leaders about the big and small ways that portraits shape our world.

PORTRAITS

Ann Shumard

Ann Shumard, the Gallery's senior curator of photographs, narrates the stories of Rose O'Neal Greenhow and Belle Boyd-- Civil War spies whose images were circulated in a popular photographic format called a carte de visite. Check out the portraits we discussed in this episode on our website: https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/behind-enemy-lines

Ann Shumard, the Gallery's senior curator of photographs, narrates the stories of Rose O'Neal Greenhow and Belle Boyd-- Civil War spies whose images were circulated in a popular photographic format called a carte de visite. Check out the portraits we discussed in this episode on our website: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/behind-enemy-lines" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/behind-enemy-lines</a>

Civil War Spies with Ann Shumard

Paul Chaat Smith

If the 1995 animated Disney film is your guide, Pocahontas was a free-spirited Native American heroine who sang to the wind. So why is she dressed like European royalty in her painting at the National Portrait Gallery? Curator and author Paul Chaat Smith separates out what we know and what we think we know about this iconic figure. Check out the portraits we discuss on our website: https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/pondering-pocahontas

If the 1995 animated Disney film is your guide, Pocahontas was a free-spirited Native American heroine who sang to the wind. So why is she dressed like European royalty in her painting at the National Portrait Gallery? Curator and author Paul Chaat Smith separates out what we know and what we think we know about this iconic figure. Check out the portraits we discuss on our website: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/pondering-pocahontas" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/pondering-pocahontas</a>

Discovering Pocahontas with Paul Chaat Smith

Julie Packard

Julie Packard is a leading ocean conservationist, so when the National Portrait Gallery approached her to sit for a portrait, she had one request: She wanted to work with an artist who could paint water. That artist, it turns out, is Hope Gangloff. Kim talks to both women on the day of the portrait's unveiling for a behind-the-scenes account of what it's like when the Gallery is your matchmaker. Check out Hope’s portrait of Julie on our website: https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/underwater

Julie Packard is a leading ocean conservationist, so when the National Portrait Gallery approached her to sit for a portrait, she had one request: She wanted to work with an artist who could paint water. That artist, it turns out, is Hope Gangloff. Kim talks to both women on the day of the portrait's unveiling for a behind-the-scenes account of what it's like when the Gallery is your matchmaker. Check out Hope’s portrait of Julie on our website: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/underwater" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/underwater</a>

Underwater with Julie Packard and Hope Gangloff

Wendy MacNaughton

You might see her leaning against a building on the street, or sitting across from you on your morning commute, pad in hand. Or, you might not have noticed her at all. Wendy talks about her 'drawn journalism' -- sketches and snippets of conversation that convey little slices of life, and connect us to bigger stories in the news. Check out the illustrations we discussed on our website: https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/on-beat

You might see her leaning against a building on the street, or sitting across from you on your morning commute, pad in hand. Or, you might not have noticed her at all. Wendy talks about her 'drawn journalism' -- sketches and snippets of conversation that convey little slices of life, and connect us to bigger stories in the news. Check out the illustrations we discussed on our website: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/on-beat" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/on-beat</a>

On the Beat with Wendy MacNaughton

Cokie Roberts

It wasn’t long after Cokie Roberts came on Portraits that we learned the sad news of her passing, on Sept. 17. We quickly realized we has a ton of great material from our interview with her on First Ladies that never made it into the final edition. So this episode we reprise some of those special moments from the cutting room floor— where her smarts, her compassion, and her moxie are on full display. Find our original interview with Cokie at our website: https://npg.si.edu/podcasts

It wasn’t long after Cokie Roberts came on Portraits that we learned the sad news of her passing, on Sept. 17. We quickly realized we has a ton of great material from <a href="https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/firsts" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">our interview with her on First Ladies</a> that never made it into the final edition. So this episode we reprise some of those special moments from the cutting room floor— where her smarts, her compassion, and her moxie are on full display. Find our original interview with Cokie at our website: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/podcasts" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://npg.si.edu/podcasts</a>

In Memoriam: Cokie Roberts

Journalist Cokie Roberts laments the fact that Martha Washington’s portrait depicts her as an old lady. Perhaps if it had been painted sooner, when Washington was young and vivacious, we’d have an easier time remembering her as the trailblazing, politically engaged woman she was. Roberts describes four portraits of First Ladies, outlining their bold contributions and the challenges that come with the job. You can see the portraits we discuss on our website: https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/firsts

Journalist Cokie Roberts laments the fact that Martha Washington’s portrait depicts her as an old lady. Perhaps if it had been painted sooner, when Washington was young and vivacious, we’d have an easier time remembering her as the trailblazing, politically engaged woman she was. Roberts describes four portraits of First Ladies, outlining their bold contributions and the challenges that come with the job. You can see the portraits we discuss on our website: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/firsts" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/firsts</a>

Firsts with Cokie Roberts

Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution Lonnie Bunch says a portrait can restore humanity, as in the case of Henrietta Lacks. She's the woman whose 'immortal' cells were taken without her knowledge and then used to pioneer important medical advances. Bunch, a scholar of American history, also describes images of one of his favorite presidents, Lyndon B. Johnson. As a lawmaker, Johnson had a 20-year record of voting against civil rights. Then he became a force for racial justice. Check out the images we discuss on our website: https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/speaking-secretary

Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution Lonnie Bunch says a portrait can restore humanity, as in the case of Henrietta Lacks. She's the woman whose 'immortal' cells were taken without her knowledge and then used to pioneer important medical advances. Bunch, a scholar of American history, also describes images of one of his favorite presidents, Lyndon B. Johnson. As a lawmaker, Johnson had a 20-year record of voting against civil rights. Then he became a force for racial justice. Check out the images we discuss on our website: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/speaking-secretary" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/speaking-secretary</a>

Speaking with the Secretary

Marian Anderson

Leslie Ureña

Classical vocalist Marian Anderson became a civil rights icon in 1939 when she sang before 75,000 spectators at the Lincoln Memorial — a concert organized after she was barred from singing at Constitution Hall because of her race. But curator Leslie Ureña wants people to know there’s much more to her story than a single performance.. including a pretty good pancake recipe. Check out the portraits we discuss on our website: https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/remembering-marian-anderson

Classical vocalist Marian Anderson became a civil rights icon in 1939 when she sang before 75,000 spectators at the Lincoln Memorial — a concert organized after she was barred from singing at Constitution Hall because of her race. But curator Leslie Ureña wants people to know there’s much more to her story than a single performance.. including a pretty good pancake recipe. Check out the portraits we discuss on our website: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/remembering-marian-anderson" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/remembering-marian-anderson</a>

Remembering Marian Anderson with Leslie Ureña

Ruben Salazar

Taína Caragol

Ruben Salazar was one of the first Latinx journalists to rise through the ranks of a major U.S. newspaper. Initially, he was careful to avoid being pigeonholed as a reporter on minority issues, but eventually he became known for digging into stories about police brutality and racial profiling— subjects also championed by the Chicano Movement. Curator Taína Caragol takes us through his life, frame by frame, and explains why some call him a martyr. See the portraits we talk about on our website: https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/ruben-salazar

Ruben Salazar was one of the first Latinx journalists to rise through the ranks of a major U.S. newspaper. Initially, he was careful to avoid being pigeonholed as a reporter on minority issues, but eventually he became known for digging into stories about police brutality and racial profiling— subjects also championed by the Chicano Movement. Curator Taína Caragol takes us through his life, frame by frame, and explains why some call him a martyr. See the portraits we talk about on our website: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/ruben-salazar" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/ruben-salazar</a>

Focusing on Ruben Salazar, with Taína Caragol

Librarian of Congress Carla Hayden and film director Kasi Lemmons love Harriet Tubman, but they weren't in love with her portrait as an older woman in a heavy dark dress. Then Hayden got a call. See the photographs we talk about here: https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/harriet-tubman

Librarian of Congress Carla Hayden and film director Kasi Lemmons love Harriet Tubman, but they weren't in love with her portrait as an older woman in a heavy dark dress. Then Hayden got a call. See the photographs we talk about here: <a href="https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/harriet-tubman" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://npg.si.edu/podcasts/harriet-tubman</a>

Growing Younger with Harriet Tubman

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