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Gwyneth Paltrow and goop's Chief Content Officer Elise Loehnen chat with leading thinkers, culture changers, and industry disruptors—from doctors to creatives, CEOs to spiritual healers—about shifting old paradigms and starting new conversations.

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The Downstream Impact of ignoring Environmental Health

“Most of the diseases that we experience are not inevitable,” says Bruce Lanphear, MD. “They’re preventable.” Lanphear is a clinician scientist at the Child & Family Research Institute, BC Children’s Hospital, and a professor in the Faculty of Health Sciences at Simon Fraser University in Vancouver. He’s spent the majority of his career exploring how environmental factors like toxic chemicals, pollutants, and contaminants can impact our health. Today, he explains the challenges of proving causation, the ways industries dodge responsibility, and why health care policy and research funding often don’t reflect the needs and priorities of doctors and patients. (While there’s plenty of evidence showing that most diseases are preventable, the US spends only 4 percent of funding on upstream preventive measures.) Lanphear breaks down where we’re most vulnerable and what we can do about it. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

46mins

3 Sep 2020

Rank #1

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Can You Heal the Mind through the Body?

Our first guest in a three-part Tuesday series on mental health is psychiatrist Kelly Brogan, who believes that healing the body can be a path to healing the mind. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

38mins

4 Dec 2018

Rank #2

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The Human Side of Negotiation

We often think the best negotiator is the toughest person in the room. Bring Yourself author Mori Taheripour explains why this is not true: “Our superpower is our ability to have emotional intelligence in a conversation.” Taheripour teaches negotiation and dispute resolution at Wharton, and focuses on the human side of negotiating. Her method isn’t prescriptive. She helps people get out of their heads, let go of self-judgement, and get comfortable with stillness. “When you start talking too much, you’re negotiating against yourself,” says Taheripour. She also coaches people to lead conversations with an open mind, and figure out what feels right—and enough—for them. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

53mins

9 Jun 2020

Rank #3

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Why It’s Normal to Dislike Exercise

Daniel Lieberman is a professor of human evolutionary biology at Harvard University and the author of the new book Exercised: Why Something We Never Evolved to Do Is Healthy and Rewarding. Today, he joins host Elise Loehnen to break down the history and science behind why so many of us have trouble exercising even though we know it’s healthy for us. For one thing, Lieberman says, the pull to not exercise is a basic human instinct, which, if you ask us, is validating. They also chat through why there is no universal prescription when it comes to workout routines. But, he says, a good first step is taking stock of what you’re trying to achieve and then figuring out what you enjoy doing. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

54mins

12 Jan 2021

Rank #4

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Could Changing Your Diet Heal Autoimmune Disease?

Dr. Steven Gundry’s career in cardiac surgery took a surprising turn when he met a seemingly hopeless patient who reversed heart damage with food and supplements. Curious, Gundry went on to explore the power of nutrition and search for cures for notoriously difficult-to-treat conditions. He’s become known for cutting lectins (plant proteins) out of his patients’ diets and for his books The Plant Paradox and The Plant Paradox Cookbook. His take on why too many women have been dismissed in the doctor’s office is also compelling. End-of-episode bonus: GP does a round of AMA on being blonde. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

37mins

12 Apr 2018

Rank #5

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Gwyneth x Brené Brown: On the Roots of Shame, Courage, and Vulnerability

“I call shame the twenty-ton shield,” says Brené Brown. “It's a defense mechanism—very classic—that we carry in order to protect ourselves from getting hurt. But what it actually does is protect us from being seen.” Brown is a research professor at the University of Houston, a New York Times–bestselling author (read her latest, Dare to Lead), and the star of a new Netflix special, The Call to Courage. In this chat, she and GP talk about courage, which Brown says is teachable and possible to cultivate only from a place of vulnerability. They talk about being perfectionists: “Where perfectionism is driving, your shame is riding shotgun,” says Brown. And they talk about empathy—as a tool for combating shame internally and for stepping beyond yourself to connect with and lead others. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

1hr 5mins

18 Apr 2019

Rank #6

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It’s Normal to Occasionally Hate Your Spouse

Family therapist and teacher Terry Real has steered many troubled couples away from the brink of divorce, coaching them through struggles with intimacy, honesty, and transparency. In his unconventional approach, he actually gets off the therapist bench and gets involved, lending his own experience to the conversation. He is full of tips for promoting passion in long-term relationships—something he says we aren’t taught how to do. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

27mins

19 Apr 2018

Rank #7

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Gwyneth x Kerry Washington: Staying Mentally and Emotionally Fit

GP sat down with Kerry Washington in front of a live audience, and they started reminiscing about going to the same all-girls school in New York City. They talked about how their education shaped the trajectory of their lives in different ways (and also about that time Jennifer Lopez was Washington’s dance teacher). Washington told us why her heart breaks a little for her eleven-year-old self and what it was like learning to navigate her feelings. She talked about the role race plays in her life and in one of her newest projects, American Son, a Broadway play turned Netflix feature. And they talked about the other roles they’ve played as actors, mothers, and stepmothers—and the experience of stepping into your power as a woman. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

55mins

22 Oct 2019

Rank #8

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Gwyneth Paltrow x John Chester: Living in Disharmony with Nature

“There’s no such thing as a perfect harmony with nature,” says John Chester, the farmer and filmmaker behind The Biggest Little Farm. “There’s a comfortable level of disharmony. There is purposefulness in this disharmony.” Chester and his wife, Molly, founded a regenerative biodynamic farm (Apricot Lane Farm) that became famous through their stunning documentary. He joins GP today to talk about what he’s learned over the last decade being in deep relationship with the ecosystem of his land and how he and Molly have reframed their many roadblocks into opportunities (and found patience when their end goal was nowhere in sight). He and GP also talk about how soil health impacts the quality of our diets, things to look for on a food label, and his hopes for the future of American farming. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

53mins

2 Feb 2021

Rank #9

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Gwyneth Paltrow x Demi Moore: Dismantling Our Defense Mechanisms

“I felt empty and alone,” says Demi Moore, “but oddly not lonely.” The actor and author of the new memoir Inside Out joins GP to talk about what happened after the things she had been hiding from “came spilling out.” Moore describes the process of becoming vulnerable and learning to identify the misperceptions we hold against ourselves and others. One of the biggest traps, says Moore, is needing to place blame. This can keep us from accountability, from forgiveness, from moving on. There is so much meaning to be found in our lives when we back away from binary thinking and allow ourselves to feel compassion for how complex we all are. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

48mins

5 Dec 2019

Rank #10

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When Work Becomes Personal

“The core of leadership should be care,” says psychiatrist Gianpiero Petriglieri, MD. “And then performance is a result of a system in which there is enough care.” Petriglieri is an associate professor of organizational behavior at INSEAD and an expert on leadership and learning in the workplace. Today, he joins host Elise Loehnen to talk about what is lost when we prize productivity above all else, why it’s important to give your team space to ask questions and be imaginative, why he thinks having vision isn’t an important quality in a good leader, and our growing tendency to intertwine our sense of self-worth with our performance at work: “Once you start working this way, where work becomes very personal, everything is existential. If you succeed, you are a success. If you fail, you see yourself as a failure.” He also shares insights about what the pandemic could teach us about productivity and how that could shape the way we do business in the future.(For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

52mins

19 Nov 2020

Rank #11

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What Makes a Good Marriage?

Eli Finkel, PhD, is a psychology professor at Northwestern University and the author of the fascinating book The All-or-Nothing Marriage, which explores the surprising things that make marriages fulfilling and what can put them on the rocks. Today, he joins host Elise Loehnen to chat about how the definition of an ideal marriage has shifted over time, what he thinks of nonmonogamy, why he argues that there are some things you should not ask of your relationship, and whether it’s possible to maintain a happy union while also trying to become a fuller, more authentic version of yourself. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

57mins

2 Nov 2020

Rank #12

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Gwyneth Paltrow x Kate Hudson: Betting on Yourself

GP catches up with her friend Kate Hudson, and true to form, they cover a lot of ground. They talk about being girl moms, what it looks like to own your trauma, and how, at this stage in her life, Hudson creates sustaining relationships. “It’s not fun to work through the pain—it sucks. And it definitely feels like it’s easier to avoid it,” Hudson says. “But we know that the more you avoid it, the worse it festers.” They also chat about how she’s created authentic and successful brands (like Fabletics, and her new venture In Bloom), the best business advice she’s gotten, and why she bets on herself. And be sure to listen to the end to hear about Hudson’s best (and not-so-best) onscreen kisses. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

41mins

13 Oct 2020

Rank #13

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How to Sleep Well

“The more logical you are in your approach to your sleep, the more you’re going to screw it up,” says sleep specialist Rafael Pelayo, MD. Pelayo is a clinical professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the Stanford Center for Sleep Sciences and Medicine and the author of the forthcoming book How to Sleep, which will be published in December 2020. Today, Pelayo answers our most pressing sleep questions: What’s really happening when we’re dreaming? Why do we sleep? Can we catch up on sleep? How much sleep do kids need? What causes sleep to become dysfunctional or disordered? How much are you affected by the way your partner sleeps? What can we do to feel rested when we wake up? (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

48mins

16 Jul 2020

Rank #14

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How to Solve Problems Before They Happen

We celebrate the heroes who save the day, but what about all the people who keep the day from needing to be saved? In his new book, Upstream, New York Times–bestselling author Dan Heath teaches us ways to prevent and fix problems before they become problems. And in this conversation with Elise Loehnen, he tells us about times when upstream thinking has solved issues ranging from homelessness to poor graduation rates to mundane marital arguments. They examine how little tweaks in a big system can create massive change and why personalizing a systemic problem can make it more manageable. “We adapt to things so easily that we often adapt to problems that we never had to endure in the first place,” says Heath. But with more upstream thinking, we can save our endurance. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

49mins

2 Apr 2020

Rank #15

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The Skin-Gut Connection

“People get used to sometimes feeling a certain way, and they don't know that they could feel better,” says naturopathic doctor and aesthetician Nigma Talib. “I think when people get the taste of what it’s like to feel optimal, they quite often stick to it.” Working with Talib is fascinating because she can connect how you’re feeling to what’s happening in your gut to the way your skin looks. And then she helps you fix it all. She wrote about this process in a book called Younger Skin Starts in the Gut. And as the title suggests, Talib is also known for her approach to aging gracefully—and not prematurely. "Aging is beautiful," she says. "There's something about having those gorgeous expression lines." (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

41mins

28 Feb 2019

Rank #16

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How to Be with the Partner You Picked

“Our memory is shit,” says couples therapist and author of We Do Stan Tatkin. “It can’t be relied on, and our perception is like a fun-house mirror…. And so that should give way to more cautiousness, more consideration, and more curiosity than we tend to have, especially in love relationships.” Tatkin’s approach to helping couples develop “secure-functioning relationships” is both realistic and optimistic. His work helps people better understand their partners so that they can become the best possible team together. Tatkin is a proponent of dependency in a relationship—and of not making that a dirty word anymore. His perspective on parenting—and not putting a child at the center of your universe—is also compelling. As for deal breakers in a relationship: Yes, he says, they exist, although sometimes what might appear to be a deal breaker is actually wholly resolvable. And if you’re looking for a relationship, Tatkin says forget thinking about the perfect person, and consider your perfect relationship. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

50mins

19 Feb 2019

Rank #17

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Is Intermittent Fasting the Key to Health?

Longevity researcher Valter Longo breaks down the phenomenon of intermittent fasting and shares the forthcoming science that he’s most excited about—the lifestyle interventions that could have massive impacts on how long we live and how healthy we are. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

43mins

15 Jan 2019

Rank #18

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Gwyneth Paltrow x Eckhart Tolle: Separating Ourselves from the Ego

“Most humans live as if past and future—and especially future—were more important than this moment,” says renowned spiritual leader Eckhart Tolle, author of The Power of Now and A New Earth. In this special conversation with GP, Tolle teaches us how to not resist our experience of the present moment, and why the feelings that we do resist have a way of—persisting. GP asks Tolle about the relationship between the ego and soul, and how we can come to see that we are not our thoughts. Tolle explains how we can release pain-bodies—an accumulation of old emotions. And of course they talk about the meaning of it all: “The world is not here to make you happy,” says Tolle. “It’s here to make you conscious.” (For more, see The goop Podcast hub. And check out this free seven-day program with meditations by Tolle and Kim Eng.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

1hr 2mins

14 Jan 2020

Rank #19

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SPECIAL EPISODE: The Power of a Balanced Immune System

In this special episode, Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist Matt Richtel highlights what he learned about the immune system while researching his latest book, An Elegant Defense. Host Elise Loehnen asks him how these lessons apply to us today as we try to slow the spread of the coronavirus and stay healthy. Our immune system, says Richtel, doesn’t need a boost as much as it needs balance. “Stress, sleep, and nutrition are the three ways we best understand to keep our immune system in balance,” says Richtel. Listening to him made us feel a little less stressed and convinced us that staying present right now and using tools (like, say, a daily meditation practice) could help pull us through this time. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

39mins

18 Mar 2020

Rank #20