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Call Your Girlfriend

A podcast for long distance besties everywhere. Co-hosted by BFFs Ann Friedman and Aminatou Sow. Produced by Gina Delvac. Brand new every Friday.

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White Fragility

Let's talk about race, baby, and what white people really mean when they say they don't see it. Whether it's willful ignorance about collective racial identity or an unexpectedly defensive flare-up from someone who claims to be progressive or an intersectional feminist, white fragility has serious consequences. We discuss its impact on people of color with Rachel Cargle, and explore ways for white people to break down internal barriers to growth with Robin DiAngelo. If you are white and listening to this, stick with it, even if you're confused or uncomfortable.Reading ListWhite Fragility bookRobin DiAngelo's resourcesRachel Cargle's website and InstagramSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


31 Aug 2018

Rank #1

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The Education of an Idealist

What does it take to live your ideals? We discuss growing up and trying to make a positive change in the world with former UN Ambassador Samantha Power. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


25 Oct 2019

Rank #2

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Time and Memory

How do we remember a decade of life and friendship? How do we visualize time? And how do we have compassion for our past selves? Aminatou and Ann reflect on who they were in the 20s, the pleasure of having older friends to look up to, and realizing that our younger friends may have different reference points. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


3 Jan 2020

Rank #3

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Episode 33: Low Key Creep

We discuss the 1989 Tour, our favorite Trump: Ivanka, political scandals and LOLs, Drake+Serena and white people appropriating black slang.Reading List:BFF power couplesIvanka's favorite podcastsJoe Biden is a creepHang in There ColumbaAubrena foreverFuckboy misuseShoutouts: Listen to Ann on the Dinner Party Download and Amina on Rerun and The Main DrawSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


28 Aug 2015

Rank #4

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Phone-a-friend: Brooklyn Nine-Nine's Stephanie Beatriz

For this week's phone-a-friend edition of Call Your Girlfriend, Amina calls top Hollywood bae, Stephanie Beatriz who plays the no-nonsense, leather-jacket wearing Rosa Diaz on Brooklyn Nine-Nine to discuss shine theory, how she got into acting, her favorite TV shows and so much more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


4 Dec 2015

Rank #5

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Episode 35: The Saddest Hello Since Lionel Richie

We're back! We talk about the Benghazi hearings, Bieber's return, Drake's turtlenecks, Adele's furs, and the fact that someone made a bluetooth-enabled menstrual cup. Plus, guest Andrew Golis fields a question about not-so-feminist men, and we set the record straight on Shine Theory.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


30 Oct 2015

Rank #6

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Episode 2: Wedding Season

We discuss wedding survival tips, innovation, (not) watching the World Cup, and dressing for success. Plus our pal Cord Jefferson tells us about the glamorous life of a Hollywood screenwriter.Reading List:"Disrupting" everythingHillary's styleRacism fatigueSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


27 Jun 2014

Rank #7

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Adult Sex Ed

Everything you’ve ever wanted to know about sex and still haven’t learned, even though you’re an adult now. Our expert panel includes Myisha Battle and Jaclyn Friedman. You’ve got sex questions, and they have answers! Full NSFW show notes + resources at callyourgirlfriend.com. Kinda goes without saying, but you probably don't want to listen to this one with young kids around.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


12 Jul 2019

Rank #8

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Level Up 2021

The new year has already been more of a lot. Amid so many challenges, here are the practices, advice, and rituals we're bringing with us into 2021. CYG producer Jordan Bailey shares her rituals for letting go of the old year and welcoming a new one. Sabrina Hersi Issa, whose personal inventory days may have already changed your life when she last spoke to us in 2018, is back to teach us about coming home to ourselves. Beth Pickens is keeping a death journal while hosting a new podcast and Homework Club for artists. Plus, Aminatou's decision matrix and Ann's daily writing practice. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


8 Jan 2021

Rank #9

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Episode 40: Our Top Female Blowhard

We discuss Amina's contempt for New Year's resolutions, winter sports, Oregon's snack-happy militia, a black woman's hilarious trolling of her rude white coworker, and Fox News' Megyn Kelly. Plus, CYG listeners raised $30k for ZanaAfrica and philanthropist Ruth Ann Harnisch on small and sustainable ways to effect big change.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


8 Jan 2016

Rank #10

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Phone-a-friend: Lose Hate Not Weight with Virgie Tovar

In this phone-a-friend edition, Ann calls author, fashion-forward and body positive activist Virgie Tovar. She shares her journey from happily jiggling kid to starvation-obsessed college student, to happy and healthy Virgie of today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


29 Jan 2016

Rank #11

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Episode 68: Rage Phase

We discuss the results of the presidential election, our tips for self-care and organizations to support, and an action plan for the next four years of Ivanka's dad in the Orange House.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


10 Nov 2016

Rank #12

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Episode 41: Too Woke

An update on Y'all Qaeda. Ivanka endorses her dad and we seek an unassailable Trump. Sean Penn's soul patch is so gross but El Chapo's shirt is amazing. Plus, the Great British Bakeoff, our brief Bravolebrity moment and January gift problems.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


22 Jan 2016

Rank #13

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Instagram Anxiety

We watched both Fyre Festival documentaries. Beyond the quirks of those films we're left with qualms about the social media platforms that ensconce our lives, Instagram in particular. Tech companies evolve, their products change, but we don't have laws or norms that govern the many different digital lives we lead. We get into it about FOMO, the history of personal photography, features that tag your 'close friends' and old pictures, and their ties to capitalism. Plus, how we think about what we post, and the accounts we love to follow. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


1 Feb 2019

Rank #14

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Love is Blind

The show, the "science" and men's feelings... we have quite a few, too, about this Netflix phenomenon. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


28 Feb 2020

Rank #15

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Episode 43: Gold Stars Forever

We're jam-packed with advice from business-minded ladies: Claire Mazur and Erica Cerulo, cofounders and bestiepreneurs at Of a Kind on running a creative partnership. And we answer listener questions about receiving feedback at work and finding your passion.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


19 Feb 2016

Rank #16

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Borders and Boundaries

We talk with Shirin Neshat about her solo exhibition at the Broad museum in Los Angeles. She's an Iranian-American artist who works in photography and film, using the personal to illuminate social change and political injustice in the Middle East and the United States. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


15 Nov 2019

Rank #17

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Episode 45: Right Hand Woman

We talk with Huma Abedin, longtime Hillary Clinton strategist, aide, and Vice Chair of her 2016 presidential campaign about having her emails and private life made public, Hillary's record on abortion rights, and what Bill might do as First Dude. A lightning round on her besties and what her podcast with Hillary would be about. Plus, Amina and Ann debrief on Susan Sarandon, the white people bubble, and current reading lists.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


1 Apr 2016

Rank #18

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Terrible, Thanks for Asking

Have you experienced a big loss? The death of a friend, family member, illness, even a breakup or losing a job can be devastating. Help and support pour in for a day, a week. And then what? We're supposed to just be fine and pretend like it never happened? We realtalk grief and suffering with Nora McInerny, host of the podcast Terrible, Thanks for Asking, and author of funny-sad books like her latest, No Happy Endings.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


5 Apr 2019

Rank #19

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Stop! Homer Time

We rave about the power and politics of translation inspired by Emily Wilson's mind-blowingly less-misogynist translation of the Odyssey into English. And we talk with translator Katrina Dodson. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


6 Dec 2019

Rank #20