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Undermine

Undermine is the definitive Phish podcast. Season two will focus on the community of fans that help make Phish one of the most compelling and enduring bands in the world. Based on more than 100 interviews with members of the community from all walks of life, this season will provide the most comprehensive look at the Phish fan community to date.Looking for Under The Scales? Episodes from 2020 and earlier are archived here!

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Warning: This podcast is a series podcast

This means episodes are recommended to be heard in order from the very start. Here's the 10 best episodes of the series anyway though!

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039:Trey's Ghost Story

Osiris co-founder RJ Bee interviews me on Under the Scales for the 20th anniversary of Phish's album Story of the Ghost. We call a special guest to answer some additional questions.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 35mins

11 Jun 2018

Rank #1

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Trey Anastasio shares years of guitar insights with me and Dan Kanter. YouTube version of this podcast.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

57mins

6 Feb 2017

Rank #2

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021:Questions Answers 1

A new type of episode, in which Tom answers your questions, or at least makes an attempt... YouTube version of this podcast.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 7mins

8 May 2017

Rank #3

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048:Mike Gordon Part 1

Mike Gordon joins Tom for the Under the Scales Season 3 opener. This is Part 1 of 2. Mike is a bass player, bandleader, consummate collaborator, songwriter, inventor. Mike speaks on the metaphysics of groove. See where this is going? WAS MIKE ALMOST IN THE WHO??Crazy how many topics we covered, couldn’t get it done in one hour, so enjoy part 1 of the interview now, part 2 coming at you next Monday!See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 2mins

11 Feb 2019

Rank #4

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012:TreyGuitars2

Trey Anastasio explains the magic of Paul Languedoc's guitars to me and Dan Kanter.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

46mins

13 Feb 2017

Rank #5

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040:Brad Sands

Brad Sands, Phish's longtime road manager - from 1991 to 2004 - talks to Tom and Tebo about the good old days, and has some great behind the scenes stories.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 6mins

25 Jun 2018

Rank #6

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057:Lyrics Dive 4

Listening can make you wonder. If you've ever wondered about the songs: Dirt, Guyute, Undermind or Light, then listen to this lyrics-analysis podcast and perhaps pieces will fall into place for you. But keep wondering anyway. Photo Credit: Tom MarshallPhoto Art: Mark DowdSee acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

43mins

14 Oct 2019

Rank #7

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059:Pink Talking Cal Kehoe

Cal Kehoe, guitarist for Pink Talking Fish, talks music with Tom. The two met exactly 10 years ago, and have written three songs together and shared a stage at a Phish after show during the Bakers Dozen in 2017. Listen to Cal discuss PTF and the method and philosophy behind covering three bands.There's a lot of music in this podcast. "Anthony" from Sonic Boom Studios in Raritan NJ is mentioned several times...but not his last name for some reason...sorry Anthony KRIZAN!!! Anthony and Tom and Cal have written and recorded together.Those songs along with a lot of Pink Talking Fish are played. Tom and Cal's song Limbo is discussed and played in its entirety at the end of the show. (BTW...yes, we know that it's actually "Sheep" and not "Dogs".)See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

52mins

15 Dec 2019

Rank #8

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051:Deep Dive into Lyrics

In this episode, Tom dives into the meaning of five popular Phish songs, chosen by co-hosts Tebo Thomas and RJ Bee: Wading in the Velvet Sea, Blaze On, Horn, Bug and Life Boy.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 9mins

28 Apr 2019

Rank #9

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055:Scott Aukerman

From 2011 to 2014 there was an amazing Phish podcast called Analyze Phish hosted by Scott Aukerman and Harris Wittels. Once it ended, Tom Marshall, saw an opportunity for another Phish podcast and launched Under the Scales in 2016. In this episode, Tom interviews one of the Analyze Phish hosts, Scott Aukerman. This episode contains clips from the Analyze Phish podcast:https://www.earwolf.com/episode/a-different-angle/https://www.earwolf.com/episode/phish-live-in-ny/Special thanks to Scott Aukerman, RJ Bee and Earwolf’s friendly staff.Thanks to producers Nick Ruffini and Kirsten Cluthe of RevoiceMedia.com.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 15mins

9 Sep 2019

Rank #10

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001:The Songwriting Weekend

In 1997, Trey and I escaped for long weekends to write a lot of songs which eventually appeared on Phish albums and became part of Phish's live repertoire. This is the story of one of those weekends, and how it got off to a *horrifying* start. Trey listened to this and said "it's like the secret backstory for the song Twist" -- and it really is. YouTube version of this podcast.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

33mins

7 Nov 2016

Rank #11

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052:Lyrics Reprise

The lyrics for 5 popular Phish songs are examined lovingly by the Under the Scales forensic team. Scents & Subtle Sounds, Walls of the Cave, Joy, Steam and Pebbles & Marbles are all on the table. Is there a nod to David Bowie in Joy? Is there a very valuable Walls of the Cave T-Shirt about to hit the auction block? Did Tom's dad accidentally steer him off the electrical engineering track and into rock lyrics? Did Tom's voice slip unnoticed onto an actual Phish album? Was Steam composed on an iPad? Did a Walls of the Cave prank sow the seeds for Kasvot Vaxt? YES is the likely answer to all the above. Only one way to get the details...jump in to UTS Episode 52: LYRICS REPRISE!See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 49mins

27 May 2019

Rank #12

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032:Phil and Friends Q&A

Big Phil and Medium Phil, both longtime Phish friends and fans, stop by to ask Tom questions...only, they forgot the questions. YouTube version of this podcast.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 34mins

4 Sep 2017

Rank #13

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049:Mike Gordon Part 2

A sampling of Mike’s music accompanies further discussion about the creative process. Mike’s solo projects are covered, and songs highlighted. Mike’s motives for each subsequent project seems to change as his collaborations with admirable artists continues to abound. However, Scott Murawski emerges as possibly Mike’s longest collaborator. Mike discusses his extensive journals he keeps about his playing, and gives us a glimpse into these as he shares the best jams from previous tours. Mike turns the mic around and interviews Tom about songwriting with a few insightful questions.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 8mins

18 Feb 2019

Rank #14

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056:Lyrics Dive 3

The lyrics for 3 popular Phish songs are examined lovingly by the Under the Scales forensic team. The Wedge, Crowd Control and No Men in No Mans Land are all on the table. produced by RevoiceMedia.comPhoto credit: Jay Sweet See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

42mins

30 Sep 2019

Rank #15

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002:Riding the Rail

Derek Gregory joins me in the studio to discuss his extensive experience with Phish...he likes it up close to the band. Real close. I try to figure out the hows and whys of "riding the rail" as it's called. YouTube version of this podcast.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

40mins

7 Nov 2016

Rank #16

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027:Tale of Two Songs

Tom puts the songwriting and recording process under the microscope with two co-writers and two new songs. YouTube version of this podcast.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

1hr 11mins

10 Jul 2017

Rank #17

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029:Posters

in the studio with Jim Pollock and David Welker, the two cornerstones of the Phish poster phenomenon. YouTube version of this podcast.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

58mins

7 Aug 2017

Rank #18

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007:Dude of Life

Steve Pollak, also known as THE DUDE OF LIFE, talks to me about the early days with Trey in Taft and brings us up to the present musically. YouTube version of this podcast.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

59mins

19 Dec 2016

Rank #19

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000:Let's Take a Ride

My producer, Mark Dowd, and I take a ride through Trey's and my old grade-school, and discuss some history and motivation behind the Under the Scales podcast. YouTube version of this podcast.See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

17mins

7 Nov 2016

Rank #20