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Under the Scales

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Under the Scales is a podcast by Tom Marshall, longtime songwriter for the band Phish. The podcast captures and brings to light the rich and complex culture surrounding Phish and its diverse, devoted fanbase. Phish's quirky sense of humor pervades and steers the podcast. Tom will interview the band, fans, insiders, outsiders...and dare to go UNDER THE SCALES to uncover the beating heart of Phish!

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Under the Scales is a podcast by Tom Marshall, longtime songwriter for the band Phish. The podcast captures and brings to light the rich and complex culture surrounding Phish and its diverse, devoted fanbase. Phish's quirky sense of humor pervades and steers the podcast. Tom will interview the band, fans, insiders, outsiders...and dare to go UNDER THE SCALES to uncover the beating heart of Phish!

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1144 Ratings
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1097
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12
4
5

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By jeremycapps - May 27 2020
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Theses are great listens, thanks Tom

Informative and interesting content

By bglad26 - May 25 2020
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I really appreciate the depth nature of the podcast in to the Phish community

iTunes Ratings

1144 Ratings
Average Ratings
1097
26
12
4
5

🙏

By jeremycapps - May 27 2020
Read more
Theses are great listens, thanks Tom

Informative and interesting content

By bglad26 - May 25 2020
Read more
I really appreciate the depth nature of the podcast in to the Phish community
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Under the Scales

Latest release on Jul 08, 2020

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Under the Scales is a podcast by Tom Marshall, longtime songwriter for the band Phish. The podcast captures and brings to light the rich and complex culture surrounding Phish and its diverse, devoted fanbase. Phish's quirky sense of humor pervades and steers the podcast. Tom will interview the band, fans, insiders, outsiders...and dare to go UNDER THE SCALES to uncover the beating heart of Phish!

Rank #1: 039:Trey's Ghost Story

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Osiris co-founder RJ Bee interviews me on Under the Scales for the 20th anniversary of Phish's album Story of the Ghost. We call a special guest to answer some additional questions.

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Jun 11 2018

1hr 35mins

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Rank #2: 011:TreyGuitars1

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Trey Anastasio shares years of guitar insights with me and Dan Kanter. YouTube version of this podcast.

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Feb 06 2017

57mins

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Rank #3: 021:Questions Answers 1

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A new type of episode, in which Tom answers your questions, or at least makes an attempt... YouTube version of this podcast.

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May 08 2017

1hr 7mins

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Rank #4: 048:Mike Gordon Part 1

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Mike Gordon joins Tom for the Under the Scales Season 3 opener. This is Part 1 of 2. Mike is a bass player, bandleader, consummate collaborator, songwriter, inventor. Mike speaks on the metaphysics of groove. See where this is going? WAS MIKE ALMOST IN THE WHO??

Crazy how many topics we covered, couldn’t get it done in one hour, so enjoy part 1 of the interview now, part 2 coming at you next Monday!

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Feb 11 2019

1hr 2mins

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Rank #5: 012:TreyGuitars2

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Trey Anastasio explains the magic of Paul Languedoc's guitars to me and Dan Kanter.

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Feb 13 2017

46mins

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Rank #6: 040:Brad Sands

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Brad Sands, Phish's longtime road manager - from 1991 to 2004 - talks to Tom and Tebo about the good old days, and has some great behind the scenes stories.

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Jun 25 2018

1hr 6mins

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Rank #7: 057:Lyrics Dive 4

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Listening can make you wonder. If you've ever wondered about the songs: Dirt, Guyute, Undermind or Light, then listen to this lyrics-analysis podcast and perhaps pieces will fall into place for you. But keep wondering anyway.

Photo Credit: Tom Marshall

Photo Art: Mark Dowd

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Oct 14 2019

43mins

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Rank #8: 051:Deep Dive into Lyrics

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In this episode, Tom dives into the meaning of five popular Phish songs, chosen by co-hosts Tebo Thomas and RJ Bee: Wading in the Velvet Sea, Blaze On, Horn, Bug and Life Boy.

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Apr 28 2019

1hr 9mins

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Rank #9: 055:Scott Aukerman

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From 2011 to 2014 there was an amazing Phish podcast called Analyze Phish hosted by Scott Aukerman and Harris Wittels. Once it ended, Tom Marshall, saw an opportunity for another Phish podcast and launched Under the Scales in 2016. In this episode, Tom interviews one of the Analyze Phish hosts, Scott Aukerman. This episode contains clips from the Analyze Phish podcast:

https://www.earwolf.com/episode/a-different-angle/

https://www.earwolf.com/episode/phish-live-in-ny/

Special thanks to Scott Aukerman, RJ Bee and Earwolf’s friendly staff.

Thanks to producers Nick Ruffini and Kirsten Cluthe of RevoiceMedia.com.

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Sep 09 2019

1hr 15mins

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Rank #10: 052:Lyrics Reprise

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The lyrics for 5 popular Phish songs are examined lovingly by the Under the Scales forensic team. Scents & Subtle Sounds, Walls of the Cave, Joy, Steam and Pebbles & Marbles are all on the table. Is there a nod to David Bowie in Joy? Is there a very valuable Walls of the Cave T-Shirt about to hit the auction block? Did Tom's dad accidentally steer him off the electrical engineering track and into rock lyrics? Did Tom's voice slip unnoticed onto an actual Phish album? Was Steam composed on an iPad? Did a Walls of the Cave prank sow the seeds for Kasvot Vaxt? YES is the likely answer to all the above. Only one way to get the details...jump in to UTS Episode 52: LYRICS REPRISE!

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May 27 2019

1hr 49mins

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Rank #11: 032:Phil and Friends Q&A

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Big Phil and Medium Phil, both longtime Phish friends and fans, stop by to ask Tom questions...only, they forgot the questions. YouTube version of this podcast.

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Sep 04 2017

1hr 34mins

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Rank #12: 049:Mike Gordon Part 2

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A sampling of Mike’s music accompanies further discussion about the creative process. Mike’s solo projects are covered, and songs highlighted. Mike’s motives for each subsequent project seems to change as his collaborations with admirable artists continues to abound. However, Scott Murawski emerges as possibly Mike’s longest collaborator. Mike discusses his extensive journals he keeps about his playing, and gives us a glimpse into these as he shares the best jams from previous tours. Mike turns the mic around and interviews Tom about songwriting with a few insightful questions.

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Feb 18 2019

1hr 8mins

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Rank #13: 002:Riding the Rail

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Derek Gregory joins me in the studio to discuss his extensive experience with Phish...he likes it up close to the band. Real close. I try to figure out the hows and whys of "riding the rail" as it's called. YouTube version of this podcast.

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Nov 07 2016

40mins

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Rank #14: 056:Lyrics Dive 3

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The lyrics for 3 popular Phish songs are examined lovingly by the Under the Scales forensic team. The Wedge, Crowd Control and No Men in No Mans Land are all on the table.

produced by RevoiceMedia.com

Photo credit: Jay Sweet

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Sep 30 2019

42mins

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Rank #15: 007:Dude of Life

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Steve Pollak, also known as THE DUDE OF LIFE, talks to me about the early days with Trey in Taft and brings us up to the present musically. YouTube version of this podcast.

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Dec 19 2016

59mins

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Rank #16: 027:Tale of Two Songs

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Tom puts the songwriting and recording process under the microscope with two co-writers and two new songs. YouTube version of this podcast.

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Jul 10 2017

1hr 11mins

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Rank #17: 029:Posters

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in the studio with Jim Pollock and David Welker, the two cornerstones of the Phish poster phenomenon. YouTube version of this podcast.

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Aug 07 2017

58mins

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Rank #18: 059:Pink Talking Cal Kehoe

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Cal Kehoe, guitarist for Pink Talking Fish, talks music with Tom. The two met exactly 10 years ago, and have written three songs together and shared a stage at a Phish after show during the Bakers Dozen in 2017. Listen to Cal discuss PTF and the method and philosophy behind covering three bands.

There's a lot of music in this podcast. "Anthony" from Sonic Boom Studios in Raritan NJ is mentioned several times...but not his last name for some reason...sorry Anthony KRIZAN!!! Anthony and Tom and Cal have written and recorded together.

Those songs along with a lot of Pink Talking Fish are played. Tom and Cal's song Limbo is discussed and played in its entirety at the end of the show.

(BTW...yes, we know that it's actually "Sheep" and not "Dogs".)

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Dec 15 2019

52mins

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Rank #19: 028:Petrea Kelly Q+A

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Petrea Davis and Kelly Baines swim Under the Scales to inflict another Q&A upon Tom. YouTube version of this podcast.

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Jul 17 2017

54mins

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Rank #20: 019:Holly Bowling 1

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Holly Bowling stops by the studio to educate us musically -- my piano has never sounded better! YouTube version of this podcast.

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Apr 17 2017

47mins

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UTS Premium INSIDE THE REEF

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Welcome to UTS Premium! Come Inside the Reef -- ad-free, early delivery, exclusive content -- see the free pin and free shirt!


www.osirispod.com/UTSP

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Jul 08 2020

4mins

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066:Kevin Cassels

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The secrets and stories behind the Pharmers Almanac Volume 6, bible to Phish fans when it came out in October 2000, are told by its creator Kevin Cassels. Fly backwards 20 years into Phish's remarkable history with Kevin and Tom.


Recorded by Julia Shuster

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Jun 22 2020

1hr 4mins

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065:Billy Strings

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The wonderful bluegrass sensation Billy Strings is on the show! Billy shares 5 important songs with Tom and explains how they influenced his career.

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May 25 2020

53mins

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064:Jesse Jarnow

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Rock writer Jesse Jarnow is featured. We discuss his many articles, books and career at large. One article in particular created enormous ripples (a tsunami?) in the Phish community. Jesse is known in the Osiris world as the voice/writer of After Midnight, a tribute to Phish's 1999 Big Cypress festival.

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Mar 30 2020

53mins

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063:CID Presents

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Dan Berkowitz, founder and president of CID Presents is interviewed by Tom and RJ. What is CID Presents? How did they pull off yet another amazing Phish gala in Mexico? Why did Phish move to a different resort? What is CID doing next? All these questions and more, answered.

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Mar 11 2020

1hr 11mins

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062:Goose Part 2

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Conclusion (Part 2). Tom and RJ interview Rick Mitarotonda and Peter Anspach of Goose live onstage at the Brooklyn Bell House as part of the Brooklyn Podcast Festival. They played several acoustic numbers and were joined by their friend Jeffrey Arevelo on upright bass. Those were Arcadia, Time to Flee, A Western Sun, Brian & Robert (Phish), Jive II, Birds of a Feather (Phish).

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Jan 30 2020

52mins

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061:Goose Part 1

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(Part 1 of 2) Tom and RJ interview Rick Mitarotonda and Peter Anspach of Goose live onstage at the Brooklyn Bell House as part of the Brooklyn Podcast Festival. They played several acoustic numbers and were joined by their friend Jeffrey Arevelo on upright bass. Those were Arcadia, Time to Flee, A Western Sun, Brian & Robert (Phish), Jive II, Birds of a Feather (Phish).

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Jan 28 2020

1hr 3mins

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060:Ezra Koenig of Vampire Weekend

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Ezra Koenig of Vampire Weekend talks songwriting, Phish, music industry, show biz, influences, New York and more.


RJ Bee joins Tom to interview Ezra in a far-ranging open-ended interview where the Vampire Weekend effect is viewed through a Phish lens occasionally.


Please check out other Osiris podcasts Still Chasing, Freak Flag Flying, 36 from the Vault and Phemale-Centrics.

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Jan 13 2020

1hr 29mins

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059:Pink Talking Cal Kehoe

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Cal Kehoe, guitarist for Pink Talking Fish, talks music with Tom. The two met exactly 10 years ago, and have written three songs together and shared a stage at a Phish after show during the Bakers Dozen in 2017. Listen to Cal discuss PTF and the method and philosophy behind covering three bands.

There's a lot of music in this podcast. "Anthony" from Sonic Boom Studios in Raritan NJ is mentioned several times...but not his last name for some reason...sorry Anthony KRIZAN!!! Anthony and Tom and Cal have written and recorded together.

Those songs along with a lot of Pink Talking Fish are played. Tom and Cal's song Limbo is discussed and played in its entirety at the end of the show.

(BTW...yes, we know that it's actually "Sheep" and not "Dogs".)

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Dec 15 2019

52mins

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058:Beyond the Pond Best Albums

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Another Osiris podcast, Beyond the Pond, has compiled their top-30 albums of the decade. Tom talks to them about their motivations and the thoughts behind making such an epic compilation. We hear music from each of the hosts' top-10 selections.

Brian Brinkman's top 10 albums:

Brian’s Top Ten Albums of The 2010s:

01. The War On Drugs: Lost In The Dream 

02. Deerhunter: Halcyon Digest

03. The National: High Violet

04. Vampire Weekend: Modern Vampires Of The City,

05. Low: Double Negative,  

06. The Walkmen: Heaven

07. Cass McCombs: Tip Of The Sphere

08. Beach House: Teen Dream

09. Bon Iver: Bon Iver

10. The National: Trouble Will Find Me,

David Goldstein's top 10 albums:

David’s Top Ten Albums of The 2010s:

01. Robyn: Body Talk 

02. The National: High Violet

03. HAIM: Days Are Gone

04. The War On Drugs: Lost In The Dream,  

05. Sturgill Simpson: Metamodern Sounds In Country Music

06. The Horrors: Primary Colours

07. Wooden Ships: V

08. Kanye West: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy,  

09. Cut Copy: Zonoscope

10. Viet Cong: Viet Cong

Beyond The Pond on Spotify:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7pVgB1jEqrwmWzsTPzkwGj

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Nov 18 2019

1hr 17mins

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Special Edition: After Midnight

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We want to tell you about a new show from Osiris, After Midnight. It tells the story of Phish’s groundbreaking festival on the eve of the new millennium, Big Cypress. Phish built a city for 80,000 fans in the Everglades, and capped off the festival by playing for 7 hours, ending the concert during sunrise on January 1, 2000. This five-episode series includes interviews with band members Trey Anastasio and Jon Fishman, fans and crew, and looks back on one of the most unique performances in music history. We're going to play the trailer for you now. Please listen, and go to osirispod.com/aftermidnight to subscribe. 

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Nov 13 2019

6mins

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057:Lyrics Dive 4

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Listening can make you wonder. If you've ever wondered about the songs: Dirt, Guyute, Undermind or Light, then listen to this lyrics-analysis podcast and perhaps pieces will fall into place for you. But keep wondering anyway.

Photo Credit: Tom Marshall

Photo Art: Mark Dowd

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Oct 14 2019

43mins

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056:Lyrics Dive 3

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The lyrics for 3 popular Phish songs are examined lovingly by the Under the Scales forensic team. The Wedge, Crowd Control and No Men in No Mans Land are all on the table.

produced by RevoiceMedia.com

Photo credit: Jay Sweet

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Sep 30 2019

42mins

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055:Scott Aukerman

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From 2011 to 2014 there was an amazing Phish podcast called Analyze Phish hosted by Scott Aukerman and Harris Wittels. Once it ended, Tom Marshall, saw an opportunity for another Phish podcast and launched Under the Scales in 2016. In this episode, Tom interviews one of the Analyze Phish hosts, Scott Aukerman. This episode contains clips from the Analyze Phish podcast:

https://www.earwolf.com/episode/a-different-angle/

https://www.earwolf.com/episode/phish-live-in-ny/

Special thanks to Scott Aukerman, RJ Bee and Earwolf’s friendly staff.

Thanks to producers Nick Ruffini and Kirsten Cluthe of RevoiceMedia.com.

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Sep 09 2019

1hr 15mins

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Special Edition: Tapes Archive

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Under the Scales is proud to preview a full episode from Osiris' newest podcast, The Tapes Archive. This one features an interview with Trey Anastasio from 1993 -- a key moment in Phish's growth and transition to a national act.

Subscribe here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-tapes-archive/id1477111579

Check out: https://www.thetapesarchive.com

Produced and engineered by: revoicemedia.com

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Aug 29 2019

45mins

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054:Waterwheel

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Phish's charitable arm, the Waterwheel Foundation, is discussed by the founders: Beth Montouri Rowles, Matthew Beck and Henry Schwab.

Produced by RevoiceMedia.com

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Jul 22 2019

59mins

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053:Ticketing with CashOrTrade

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Tom speaks with Brando Rich of CashOrTrade.org. Platinum tickets, hoarding, scalping and more are discussed, and how new technology is helping to get face-value tickets into fan’s hands. The ticket secondary market is examined. Buyers often face steep markups, but there are new methods being employed to get more face-value tickets to fans. Produced by revoicemedia.com.

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Jun 17 2019

54mins

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052:Lyrics Reprise

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The lyrics for 5 popular Phish songs are examined lovingly by the Under the Scales forensic team. Scents & Subtle Sounds, Walls of the Cave, Joy, Steam and Pebbles & Marbles are all on the table. Is there a nod to David Bowie in Joy? Is there a very valuable Walls of the Cave T-Shirt about to hit the auction block? Did Tom's dad accidentally steer him off the electrical engineering track and into rock lyrics? Did Tom's voice slip unnoticed onto an actual Phish album? Was Steam composed on an iPad? Did a Walls of the Cave prank sow the seeds for Kasvot Vaxt? YES is the likely answer to all the above. Only one way to get the details...jump in to UTS Episode 52: LYRICS REPRISE!

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May 27 2019

1hr 49mins

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051:Deep Dive into Lyrics

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In this episode, Tom dives into the meaning of five popular Phish songs, chosen by co-hosts Tebo Thomas and RJ Bee: Wading in the Velvet Sea, Blaze On, Horn, Bug and Life Boy.

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Apr 28 2019

1hr 9mins

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050:Kevin Statesir

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Kevin Statesir, Trey’s brother-in-law and founder of the Burlington Vermont music venue Higher Ground, joins Tom in the studio to discuss Phish from a family perspective, and also how Higher Ground has become an integral piece in the Vermont music puzzle these days. Kevin’s long history in the music biz includes brushes with John Lennon and Keith Richards. Kevin also discusses Trey’s efforts to help with the hurricane-ravaged island of Tortola, Please check out http://trey.com/tortola-relief/ to learn more.

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Mar 25 2019

1hr 5mins

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iTunes Ratings

1144 Ratings
Average Ratings
1097
26
12
4
5

🙏

By jeremycapps - May 27 2020
Read more
Theses are great listens, thanks Tom

Informative and interesting content

By bglad26 - May 25 2020
Read more
I really appreciate the depth nature of the podcast in to the Phish community