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The Think Orange Podcast is a podcast with ideas and conversations to help you influence the faith of the next generation.

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The Think Orange Podcast is a podcast with ideas and conversations to help you influence the faith of the next generation.

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Rank #1: 077: Dealing with Burnout, Cynicism, and Isolation as a Ministry Leader

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  • We travel all around the country, talking to thousands of leaders, and over and over we hear stories of burnout, cynicism, and isolation. In today’s interview-only episode of The Think Orange Podcast, Carey Nieuwhof dives into issues affecting many young leaders and pastors today. Through the framework of his new book Didn’t See It Coming, Carey talks candidly about some of the most common challenges leaders face. From personal experience and years of insight, Carey shares steps for breaking the cycle of pain by breaking out of isolation and taking steps today that will help you thrive tomorrow.

    Where To Listen:iTunes  |  Google Play  |  Stitcher  |  SoundCloud

    Topic Timeline

    Dave and Ashley introduce Dave’s interview with Carey Nieuwhof (4:56)

    This episode sponsored by Orange Conference 2019 (8:11)

    Disclaimer: This episode contains content related to self-harm, depression, and suicidal ideation (9:25)

    Interview with Carey Nieuwhof (10:15)

    Generating blog, podcast, and other media content in an age of increasing transparency (13:12)

    Vulnerability doesn’t mean sharing everything with everyone—when sharing publicly, start from a place of asking, “Is this helpful?” (15:18)

    Using personal experiences to build empathy (17:29)

    Ways technology and social media can contribute to cynicism (21:57)

    “Cynicism roots itself in knowledge.” (23:21)

    Projecting past failures or hurts onto new situations can cause you to miss out on the joy of life (25:36)

    The antidote to cynicism is hope (26:47)

    The antidote to burnout is to live in a way today that will help you thrive tomorrow (28:22)

    Charge your internal battery quickly by not cheating sleep, diet, and exercise (31:53)

    The seven specific challenges addressed in I Didn’t See It Coming (33:00)

    • Cynicism
    • Compromise
    • Disconnection
    • Irrelevance
    • Pride
    • Burnout
    • Emptiness

    The importance of addressing even seemingly minor moral compromises as a leader (34:30)

    Handling feelings of emptiness by keeping perspective (39:18)

    Observations from the life of Solomon and the tale of two kingdoms (41:33)

    Carey’s past experience with suicidal thoughts and self-pity (45:34)

    You have no idea what the next decade may bring for you (49:54)

    If you’re experiencing depression, burnout, or anything of the sort, don’t live in a place of isolation—stop what you’re doing right now and tell someone (52:25)

    Advice for someone who knows an individual they think are in the middle of a particular challenge they haven’t recognized yet: Questions are a gateway to conversation (54:13)

    Dave and Carey conclude the interview in prayer (56:23)

    Dave and Ashley’s final thoughts (1:00:45)

    Dave’s description of the Hebrew word picture tikvah (1:04:12)

    If you need someone to share your challenge with or to pray with you, you can reach out to Dave and Ashley anytime at @aussiedave, @ashleybohinc, and 201-831-7155 (Dave’s cell) (1:06:17)

    People, Places & Helpful Resources

    Didn’t See It Coming: Overcoming the Seven Greatest Challenges That No One Expects and Everyone Experiences (book by Carey Nieuwhof)

    The Orange Conference 2019

    Featured Guests

    CAREY NIEUWHOF

    Carey Nieuwhof is a former lawyer and founding pastor of Connexus Church. He’s the author of several best-selling books, including his latest, Didn’t See It Coming, and speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change and personal growth.

    The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast and Carey’s blog at www.CareyNieuwhof.com are accessed by millions of leaders each year.

    Quotes from This Episode

    Live in a way today that will help you thrive tomorrow. – @cnieuwhof
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    The antidote to emptiness is dying to self. – @cnieuwhof
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    Self-pity is confession without forgiveness. – @cnieuwhof
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    You are most tempted to quit moments before your critical breakthrough. – @cnieuwhof
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    The best place to find resurrection is in a graveyard. – @cnieuwhof
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    Ideas to Influence the Next Generation

    As ministry leaders, we can become so accustomed to taking care of the needs of others that it feels out of place to care for ourselves. Maybe it feels selfish to draw attention to our needs or we feel shame for struggling. Or maybe we just don’t realize anything is wrong because we’re used to going a million miles a minute. In today’s episode, we talk about the dangers of going on “business as usual” and are challenged to establish a new normal. We see that growth doesn’t take place in isolation—it happens in relationship.

    Here are three places ministry leaders can seek to de-stigmatize the difficulties they face and learn how to practice vulnerability and perspective:

    Small groups. Whether a short-term group or a long-term community, finding a group of trusted individuals who will track with you on a regular basis is paramount in practicing vulnerability.

    Online communities. While there’s no substitute for face-to-face, consistent connection, social media and online forums can be a great place to connect with a community of people walking through the same issues as you.

    Professional help. You get counseling because you’re breathing, not because you’re broken. For help knowing where to start, consider reaching out to your church’s care team for recommendations to providers in your area.

    Conversation Starters For Your Church

    How would you describe vulnerability?

    What’s a hardship or challenge you wouldn’t understand if you hadn’t walked through it yourself?

    What actions can you take today to help you thrive tomorrow?

    Who is someone you can be 100 percent authentic with about the challenges you face?

    Your Hosts

    DAVE ADAMSON

    When he’s not working as a pastor at North Point Ministries in Atlanta, Dave is usually making his family cross their arms, roll their eyes, and tap their feet while he takes “just one more quick photo” on family outings. You’ll also often find him up to his neck in “Jewish stuff” as he researches the cultural context of Jesus for his daily Instagram devotions. Learn more about Dave at daveadamson.tv.

    ASHLEY BOHINC

    Ashley serves as the Director of Middle School Strategy at Orange and the USA Director of Carry 117. She has worked with students in public education, athletic and ministry settings for the last 12 years. She is most passionate about resourcing the local church, communicating on stage, developing leaders, working with students and world missions. In her downtime, you’ll find her watching Friends, cheering on the Cleveland Cavaliers, traveling, reading, or on one of her Fairytale Friday Adventures.

    Join Us Next Week

    Thank you for listening to the Think Orange Podcast.

    We hope you’ll join us for episode 78, Best of Ashley Bohinc. More importantly, we hope that when you think next generation, you think Orange.

    Dec 11 2018

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    Rank #2: 080: Techniques for Getting the Best Out of Your Team

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  • We’ve all heard the joke, “Ministry would be easy if not for the people.” We all have days that can feel frustrating or out of sync—like when you’re overwhelmed by your workload or those on your team aren’t speaking the same language. In those moments we wonder if it might be easier to just go at it alone. But the reality is we need more than just ourselves to accomplish the mission we’ve been given.

    In today’s conversations, we hear from Doug Fields and Amber Baker. With a combined 50-plus years of experience leading teams, they share the whys and hows for celebrating and empowering those you’ve been called to lead. Whether you lead a team of staff, volunteers, or students, these techniques will help you grow in your awareness of yourself as a leader, as well as those you’re working with every single day.

    Welcome to Episode 80 of the Think Orange Podcast.

    Where To Listen:iTunes  |  Google Play  |  Stitcher  |  SoundCloud

    Topic Timeline

    K-Daddy shares the importance of letting those you lead know you believe in them (1:23)

    Today’s episode brought to us by The Orange Conference (3:22)

    Doug Fields talks about the value of people who can lead others well (5:30)

    Lead like you want to be led—what do you want from the people who are over you? (8:34)

    Every leader is a bundle of strengths and weaknesses (10:49)

    Leadership shouldn’t be about comparison (11:08)

    Within the church, we need to improve in how we develop people (12:08)

    Team-focused leaders give up their pride (14:47)

    A spotlight leader puts the attention on others’ accomplishments and successes (15:46)

    Team-focused leaders give up perfectionism (16:51)

    Team-focused leaders give team members genuine belief (19:27)

    Belief is a decision, so remind people occasionally how talented they are (23:27)

    Praise in public; criticize in private (24:12)

    Sarah Bragg and Dan Scott interview Amber Baker (25:10)

    Understanding your team as individuals is important (27:24)

    Amber describes the four temperaments of the Real Colors Personality Test (27:51)

    The art of getting the most out of every personality type and keeping your team on the same page (32:03)

    A foundation of trust is critical for building a dynamic team (34:01)

    Having people in the right roles is key to growing your team (35:18)

    Tips for hiring and firing well (37:44)

    Alignment is a constant, consistent process (39:27)

    Advice for leaders whose teams are hanging by a thread (41:42)

    How to choose a personality or temperament assessment that’s right for you and your team (43:45)

    Dave’s final thoughts (47:18)

    People, Places & Helpful Resources

    The Orange Conference 2019

    Real Colors Personality Test

    Zoom Video Communication

    Featured Guests

    AMBER BAKER

    Currently Amber is one of the Children’s Pastors at Grace Church of Glendora in Glendora, CA . She loves working with teams, equipping volunteers, empowering parents, and raising kids to be leaders today. Amber Baker has a degree in Christian Ministries and a MA in Organizational Leadership. She’s also a certified Real Colors Temperament Trainer and an Adjunct at Azusa Pacific University. Learn more about Amber at www.amberbaker.me.

    DOUG FIELDS

    Doug Fields is a communicator, author, & consultant. He is the Senior Director of HomeWord’s Center for Youth/Family at Azusa Pacific University, the co-founder of Downloadyouthministry.com, and the author of more than 50 books. More information about Doug is available at www.dougfields.com.

    Quotes from This Episode

    When you’re authentically yourself and you lead how you wish you were led, you’ll be a great leader. – @DougFields
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    To bring out the best in others, you have to be intentional about it—it’s not accidental. – @DougFields
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    If you’re an insecure leader, you’ll never bring out the best in others. – @DougFields
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    With any team, a foundation of trust is most important. – @AmberDBaker
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    Leaders must be students of their teams and each individual’s personality and communication style. – @AmberDBaker
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    Ideas to Influence the Next Generation

    In his book The Five Dysfunctions of a Team, Patrick Lencioni says, “Teamwork doesn’t require great intellectual insights or masterful tactics. More than anything else, it comes down to courage and persistence.”

    The courage . . .
    to consider a viewpoint different from your own.
    to have an awkward conversation in order to achieve clarity.
    to help team members reconcile when they don’t see eye to eye.

    The persistence . . .
    to not write someone off based on one mistake.
    to meet regularly, even when life gets busy.
    to fight for the heart of each individual team member.

    Conversation Starters For Your Church

    Describe a time someone praised you publicly. What was it for and how did it make you feel?

    As you consider your personal leadership style, what are some things you value in those who lead you?

    Is there an area of your ministry you’ve been trying to control to the detriment of those you lead? What’s something you can do in the next month to let go of perfectionism in order to empower a future leader?

    Who is someone on your team who could use encouragement or a “way to go!” this week?

    What’s a step you can take in better understanding the individual personalities of those on your team?

    Your Host

    DAVE ADAMSON

    When he’s not working as a pastor at North Point Ministries in Atlanta, Dave is usually making his family cross their arms, roll their eyes, and tap their feet while he takes “just one more quick photo” on family outings. You’ll also often find him up to his neck in “Jewish stuff” as he researches the cultural context of Jesus for his daily Instagram devotions. Learn more about Dave at daveadamson.tv.

    Join Us Next Week

    Thank you for listening to the Think Orange Podcast.

    We hope you’ll join us for next week’s episode. More importantly, we hope that when you think next generation, you think Orange.

    Jan 22 2019

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    Rank #3: 079: Accomplishing More by Doing Less

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  • The new year is a popular time for saying “yes.” “Yes” to more family time. “Yes” to exercise. “Yes” to getting plenty of rest. But what if this year, you could accomplish all these things and more because of a decision to say “no” instead?

    Today on The Pod, Frank Bealer and EJ Swanson join us to talk about the practice of slowing down. As two ministry leaders fluent in large-church ministry and high-level responsibility, Frank and EJ are pros at being efficient with their time while still leaning into relationships. They share how we can all slow down and manage our days in a way that won’t drive us—or our families—to the breaking point.

    Where To Listen:iTunes  |  Google Play  |  Stitcher  |  SoundCloud

    Topic Timeline

    Dave and Kacey talk New Year’s resolutions (2:47)

    Today’s episode brought to us by The Orange Conference (7:17)

    Frank Bealer addresses three lies leaders tell themselves about their calendars (8:53)

    Lie 1: This is just a busy season. (8:53)

    Lie 2: Next week will be better. (11:52)

    Lie 3: Everyone understands. (15:57)

    50 percent of people who get involved in vocational ministry quit within the first 5 years (21:32)

    Sarah Bragg and Holly Crawshaw interview EJ Swanson (22:09)

    How EJ knew it was time to slow down and focus on local church ministry (27:09)

    One of the benefits of slowing down is getting to know yourself better (29:06)

    Sometimes saying “yes” is taking opportunity, but in saying “no” you can give of yourself instead (31:49)

    Prioritizing engagements based on relationships (35:08)

    As leaders, sometimes we can feel like we’re better at ministry than at being parents or spouses (37:47)

    Practical advice for saying “no” (40:45)

    Our kids and families won’t always be there—slowing down ensures you get to be there for the important moments (43:29)

    Dave’s final thoughts (45:40)

    This new year, make a list of the things you’ll say “no” to (46:17)

    People, Places & Helpful Resources

    The Orange Conference

    Simple Church by Thom S. Rainer and Eric Geiger

    Featured Guests

    E.J. SWANSON

    E.J leads a team of NextGen Pastors and Directors across thirteen campuses at Woodside Bible Church in The Metro Detroit area. Passionate about people, E.J. oversees staff, volunteers, strategies, and leadership development for kids, students, and young adults at Woodside. He continues to speak to over 150,000 students and adults per year.

    E.J. is the founder of IWontWatch.com and Spirituallifeweek.com and is involved in some of America’s, most innovative and fastest-growing ministries. He has shared the stage and toured with many artists including The David Crowder Band, Mercy Me, Hawk Nelson, Shawn McDonald, Matt Maher, Big Daddy Weave, and Building 429. E.J. lives in Troy, MI, with his lovely bride, Abbey, and daughter, Ruth.

    Learn more about E.J. at https://nextgenministry.org/.

    FRANK BEALER

    Frank is the Executive Director of Leadership Development at Orange / The reThink Group and CEO of Phase Family Centers. Prior to Orange he was the Family Pastor at Elevation Church in Charlotte North Carolina where he oversaw family ministry at more than a dozen locations. He recently released his first book, “The Myth of Balance”. Frank is married to Jess and together they have four children.

    Learn more about Frank at https://www.helpingleaderswin.com/.

    Quotes from This Episode

    If you can’t put an end date on the thing that’s causing you to have an extra busy season, it’s your reality—not a season. – @fbealer
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    Saying “no” to something always gives you the opportunity to say “yes” to something better. – @ejswanson
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    If we’re focused on what we’re missing out on, we can’t focus on what’s next. – @ejswanson
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    Ideas to Influence the Next Generation

    Saying “no” isn’t easy. There’s a reason so many books have been written about drawing boundaries and setting priorities. With a little practice and a heap of self-awareness though, each of us has what it takes to slow down and point ourselves in the direction of what matters most.

    Know your limits.

    We all have that person we admire for their ability to get things done. But the reality is, we all have different limitations when it comes to what we can accomplish in a day, week, or season of life. Slowing down will allow you to carefully consider your own personal capacity. And if you’re not sure how to evaluate how much is too much, try talking to those closest to you or maybe check out a personality assessment or strengths indicator for guidance.

    Simplify church-wide.

    Is the reason you feel as though you’re constantly running from thing to thing because you have way too many things on your church calendar? If so, it might be time to meet with your team and discuss which programs it’s time to say “no” to. Sure, this can be difficult to do. But in time, you may discover you’re not the only one relieved by fewer programming items. The volunteers and families you serve will thank you as well. (For strategies on how to do this effectively, check out the book Simple Church by Thom S. Rainer and Eric Geiger.)

    Multiply yourself.

    Relationships matter most, and when it comes to being in ministry, there’s a limit to how many quality relationships you can invest in. While recruiting and training volunteers may sound like a lot of work (and it is), surrounding yourself with a team of well-equipped small group leaders will ultimately save you time and maximize your impact down the road.

    Conversation Starters For Your Church

    What keeps you from saying no (e.g., fear, insecurity, or a desire to feel needed)

    What are a few items you could put on your no list in 2019?

    What’s a role or responsibility you hold that you could equip another leader or volunteer to take the lead on instead?

    Your Hosts

    DAVE ADAMSON

    When he’s not working as a pastor at North Point Ministries in Atlanta, Dave is usually making his family cross their arms, roll their eyes, and tap their feet while he takes “just one more quick photo” on family outings. You’ll also often find him up to his neck in “Jewish stuff” as he researches the cultural context of Jesus for his daily Instagram devotions. Learn more about Dave at daveadamson.tv.

    KACEY LANIER

    Kacey serves as the Director of Inbound Marketing at The reThink Group, Inc.

    Join Us Next Week

    Thank you for listening to the Think Orange Podcast.

    We hope you’ll join us for next week’s episode. More importantly, we hope that when you think next generation, you think Orange.

    Jan 08 2019

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    Rank #4: 078: Gen Z, Small Groups and Singing: The Best of Ashley Bohinc

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  • It’s a bittersweet day here at the Think Orange Podcast as we celebrate and commemorate Ashley Bohinc’s last show as a regular host (don’t worry though, she’s not going far!).

    In honor of the self-proclaimed “lead singer of the podcast,” Dave and Ashley are recapping Ashley’s most insightful, moving and musical contributions to the show. This, of course, means talking about Small Group Leaders, generational differences and Taylor Swift.

    The Think Orange Podcast is so thankful for Ashley’s time on the show. We know that in her next endeavors, she’ll bring her contagious joy and vast knowledge on all things next generation with her. As for the rest of us, Merry Christmas and we’ll see you in 2019!

    Where To Listen:iTunes  |  Google Play  |  Stitcher  |  SoundCloud

    Topic Timeline

    Ashley and Dave Kick-off the show (00:15)

    Ashley’s Spotify Playlist of all her Christmas songs (3:25)

    Dave talks about Ashley’s new role (5:00)

    The best of Ashley Behind episode explained (6:35)

    The Orange Conference 2019 (9:05)

    Ashley’s story about Starbucks at the airport and sings “Killing Me Softly” with producer Kevin (11:20)

    Ashley talks with Joseph Sojourner about valuing the different generations (17:25)

    Ashley and Leslie Bolser talk about what partnership between schools and churches look like (22:30)

    • Clarify what is the school win is
    • Understanding what the Church win is
    • Find out if those two wins intersect
    • Find out if lack of intersecting wins matters to the church (for example: if it’s just a win for the school… not the church… do you still want to do it?)

    Ashley and Sam Collier discuss why small group leaders matter (30:00)

    Ashley and Afton clarify the win for small group leaders (34:05)

    Ashley and Afton talk about answering hard questions (40:00)

    Ashley’s singing montage (45:45)

    Dave and Ashley wrap up the episode (45:46)

    People, Places & Helpful Resources

    Episode 067: Leveraging Culture and Creativity with Joseph Sojourner

    Episode 073: Helping Local Schools Win with Leslie Bolser

    Episode 069: Helping Students Find Their Voice with Sam Collier

    Episode 026: Clarifying the Win for Small Group Leaders with Afton Phillips

    The Orange Conference 2019

    ReThinking Youth Ministry Podcast

    AshleyBohinc.com

    Featured Guests

    ASHLEY BOHINC

    Ashley serves as the Director of Middle School Strategy at Orange and the USA Director of Carry 117. She has worked with students in public education, athletic and ministry settings for the last 12 years. She is most passionate about resourcing the local church, communicating on stage, developing leaders, working with students and world missions. In her downtime, you’ll find her watching Friends, cheering on the Cleveland Cavaliers, traveling, reading, or on one of her Fairytale Friday Adventures.

    Quotes from This Episode

    “We don’t want students to memorize information, we want them to apply it to their lives.” @AshleyBohinc
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    “Every generation is different. No one is better than the other, we’re just different.” @AshleyBohinc
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    “Teach a child that it’s okay to wonder about God than by wondering with them.” @AshleyBohinc
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    Ideas to Influence the Next Generation

    1. Every generation is different but equally valuable.

    Each generation thinks and values differently than the generation that came before them. What’s important to Baby Boomers isn’t necessarily important to Millennials, and what Millennials value isn’t necessarily important to Gen Z.

    Sometimes we, the church, look at the next generation and notice all the things they need to change. But what if instead of asking them to change, we figure out what they value. When we show them that what’s important to them is also important to us, we can become the church that they love and are going to lead one day.

    2. Wins for small group leaders

    Small group leaders are most powerful when they show up, every-time, over the course of time. Consistency means moving students from reciting the information they’re learning at church to applying the information to their lives.

    3. It’s okay to wonder

    Sometimes kids ask hard questions. Like, why aren’t dinosaurs in the Bible? or If heaven is so perfect, why did Satan leave? Your impact as a SGL isn’t in knowing the right answer to every question, but in showing kids that they’re empowered to wonder and discover God.

    Conversation Starters For Your Church

    What are some of the negative things you’ve heard about Gen Z (students who are under 18 right now)? How can you turn those negative assumptions into a moment of learning what they value? How can you use that new value-set to attract them to church?

    Recruiting Small Group Leaders is great! But, retaining them is better. What training or support could you provide for your SGLs to make them feel like they are well-equipped to lead students?

    Your Hosts

    DAVE ADAMSON

    When he’s not working as a pastor at North Point Ministries in Atlanta, Dave is usually making his family cross their arms, roll their eyes, and tap their feet while he takes “just one more quick photo” on family outings. You’ll also often find him up to his neck in “Jewish stuff” as he researches the cultural context of Jesus for his daily Instagram devotions. Learn more about Dave at daveadamson.tv.

    ASHLEY BOHINC

    Ashley serves as the Director of Middle School Strategy at Orange and the USA Director of Carry 117. She has worked with students in public education, athletic and ministry settings for the last 12 years. She is most passionate about resourcing the local church, communicating on stage, developing leaders, working with students and world missions. In her downtime, you’ll find her watching Friends, cheering on the Cleveland Cavaliers, traveling, reading, or on one of her Fairytale Friday Adventures.

    Join Us Next Week

    Thank you for listening to the Think Orange Podcast.

    We hope you’ll join us for next week’s episode. More importantly, we hope that when you think next generation, you think Orange.

    Dec 18 2018

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    Rank #5: 081: How Transparency Can Save Marriages In Your Church

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  • There’s a reason that we call getting married “tying the knot.” When two people vow to love each other forever, in front of God, their lives join together in a bond that feels unbreakable. However—like all knots—over time our marriages can get frayed and even loosen.

    Healthy churches and healthy marriages are deeply and intricately connected. They both need each other. Ron and Jody Zappia have a story of a redeemed marriage. They use their story as a platform to show God’s glory and use transparency to help other couples find hope. Today on the podcast, they join Dave to talk about how churches can partner with couples to help them develop and maintain healthy marriages.

    Where To Listen:iTunes  |  Google Play  |  Stitcher  |  SoundCloud

    Topic Timeline

    The MarriedPeople Curriculum provides a year of resources to help your church do marriage better (1:45)

    Ron and Jody share the story about how they met and their early years of marriage (3:05)

    How Christian counseling met Ron and Jody at their lowest (8:25)

    What a kingdom-minded view looks like in reality (12:45)

    The Lord is near to the broken-hearted (17:35)

    We have a responsibility to use our stories for God’s glory (20:35)

    The Marriage Knot: The choices husbands and wife need to make to continuously tighten and strengthen the knot (22:00)

    The major falls in marriage (24:30)

    The seven Biblical choices couples can make to support their marriage (27:00)

    A candid conversation about what Biblical intimacy looks like in marriage (28:05)

    The most common marriage issue all couples deal with (33:00)

    How to choose to love unconditionally (35:35)

    The equation for forgiveness (36:45)

    Dave’s lightning round of marriage questions for Ron and Jody (40:20)

    What’s one piece of practical marriage advice? (40:45)

    What about church leaders who have never been married? (41:20)

    What’s one thing churches can do to partner with married couples? (42:25)

    What’s one piece of advice for ministry leaders who are married?(44:55)

    What’s one piece of advice you have your kids that you want all of us to hear? (45:05)

    Dave’s final thoughts (49:20)

    People, Places & Helpful Resources

    Pastor Ron and Jody Zappia

    The MarriedPeople Curriculum

    The Marriage Knot by Ron and Jody Zappia

    Ron and Jody’s Marriage Conference: TheKnot.CC

    Featured Guests

    RON AND JODY ZAPPIA

    Ron Zappia is the pastor and founder of Highpoint Church, a multi-site church reaching thousands in the western suburbs of Chicago. Jody Zappia leads the Women’s Ministry for Highpoint. Together, they’ve written the book The Marriage Knot.  Ron and Jody live in Wheaton, IL with their three daughters: Allie, Erin, and Emily.

    Quotes from This Episode

    In the midst of pain, you must keep moving forward. @RonZappia
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    Our story can be a platform for God’s glory. @RonZappia
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    When people see our scars, it shows them that there is a healer. @aussiedave
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    Great marriages don’t happen by accident. @RonZappia
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    Ideas to Influence the Next Generation

    Keep a Kingdom-Minded view

    When Jody first walked into the church near her house, hoping for affirmation that she should file for divorce, she was comforted and spoken to by the pastor’s wife. The pastor’s wife actually knew of a marriage program at a different church for couples who were considering divorce and sent Jody their way.

    At that moment, the pastor’s wife had a kingdom-minded view. She wasn’t worried about retaining Jody as a member or getting her involved in another ministry. She simply cared about what was best for Jody and Jody’s relationship with God and her husband. The church she sent her to ultimately saved her marriage and brought Ron and Jody to Christ.

    Hurting people can help hurting people

    The Lord is near to the broken-hearted. He uses people who are open, honest and authentic with their story to give hope to others. Being brave with your story glorifies God and reminds others that Christ is the great healer.

    Love, forgiveness, and trust

    After a betrayal in a marriage, many couples worry that they’ll never trust each other again. But here’s the good news… God doesn’t ask you to trust your spouse (or yourself). He asks you to trust in Him. What He does ask is that you love each other and forgive each other. Over time, the trust will come back.

    Conversation Starters For Your Church

    How can our church keep a kingdom-minded approach in helping anyone who walks through our doors?

    What can we do to partner with our married ministry leaders to support their marriages?

    How can our church model unconditional love?

    Your Hosts

    DAVE ADAMSON

    When he’s not working as a pastor at North Point Ministries in Atlanta, Dave is usually making his family cross their arms, roll their eyes, and tap their feet while he takes “just one more quick photo” on family outings. You’ll also often find him up to his neck in “Jewish stuff” as he researches the cultural context of Jesus for his daily Instagram devotions. Learn more about Dave at daveadamson.tv.

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    Feb 05 2019

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