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Political journalist and cultural critic Ana Marie Cox sits down with liberals, conservatives, activists, former white supremacists, and others for conversations that explores our differences. It’s not about finding common ground; it’s about learning to see the world through someone else’s eyes. New episodes every Friday.

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Political journalist and cultural critic Ana Marie Cox sits down with liberals, conservatives, activists, former white supremacists, and others for conversations that explores our differences. It’s not about finding common ground; it’s about learning to see the world through someone else’s eyes. New episodes every Friday.

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Hopeful again!

By Stephanie Carleton - Feb 09 2020
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I just bought Ana Marie’s latest guest’s book. What We Can Learn from the Germans. I am hoping I can get some ideas to share with people who like the president. And at times I do wonder if we aren’t inching our way toward Nazi styled action. I think Ms Nieman’s book will help me resist and even bring up topics. If I get brave enough I will make it my coffee table book. Next I will get a coffee table. Thanks Ana Marie. I live your program and Crooked Media. Helpful and Hopeful

We Can Be Hero’s

By Laurie715 - Feb 08 2020
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Thank you for such an enlightening and important conversation for our time! Aren’t we supposed to learn from history?

iTunes Ratings

5900 Ratings
Average Ratings
4771
510
212
170
237

Hopeful again!

By Stephanie Carleton - Feb 09 2020
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I just bought Ana Marie’s latest guest’s book. What We Can Learn from the Germans. I am hoping I can get some ideas to share with people who like the president. And at times I do wonder if we aren’t inching our way toward Nazi styled action. I think Ms Nieman’s book will help me resist and even bring up topics. If I get brave enough I will make it my coffee table book. Next I will get a coffee table. Thanks Ana Marie. I live your program and Crooked Media. Helpful and Hopeful

We Can Be Hero’s

By Laurie715 - Feb 08 2020
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Thank you for such an enlightening and important conversation for our time! Aren’t we supposed to learn from history?
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With Friends Like These

Latest release on Feb 14, 2020

The Best Episodes Ranked Using User Listens

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Rank #1: “They’re standing at the podium” w/ Dave Weigel

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On the Season 2 premiere, Ana traveled to CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference, to try and see the world through someone the eyes of conservative activists. Ana has attended CPAC for many years, but this time discovered a different conference -- rather than idealistic conservatism, she encountered overt, explicit racism. Over the course of the conference, she talked to attendees of different backgrounds, ages, ethnicities and genders, only to find nativism and racism time and again.

The Washington Post’s Dave Weigel joins the pod to discuss their past experiences at CPAC. He and Ana dive into how attitudes towards President Trump have rapidly evolved over the last few years, and how that has changed priorities within the conservative movement.
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Mar 30 2018

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Rank #2: "Discomfort is a tool of oppression"

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Culture critic Ira Madison III (@ira) joins the show for a very meta conversation about white people and what it's like to be "the black friend."

Mar 03 2017

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Rank #3: An Iceberg of Sh*t: Rick Wilson on the Mueller Report

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CW: Sexual Assault

Got Mueller Madness? Join Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) and Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) as they get up from a fetal position and debrief the Mueller Report. They begin with a quick review of the day from the perspective of the White House and various media outlets. Afterwards they talk about what it will take to defeat Trump in 2020, and which candidates they think can make it in this reality tv-esque election cycle. Turn off that NPR coverage and tune in.

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Apr 19 2019

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Rank #4: Bonkerpalooza! With Rick Wilson

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This week Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) joined Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to talk about the government shutdown, and the newest implications of the Trump presidency. They covered how Trump’s decisions have affected everyone from Congress to the average American citizen. Afterwards, they talked about coping; teaching that taking care of yourself can be macro and take the form of activism, or micro and just involve sitting on the couch with a loved one, or a loved pet. Tune in for your weekly reminder that none of this is normal!
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Jan 25 2019

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Rank #5: Rick Wilson Halloween Spooktacular (feat. Rick Wilson)

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Fan favorite Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) returns to give Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) the Never Trumper view on culture wars, judicial festishization, and the all-important business of impeachment. Plus: a wacky game about pathological lying! Please consider checking out Rick’s new book Running Against the Devil: A Plot to Save America from Trump--and Democrats from Themselves; a title that we will almost certainly be fighting him about next time he joins the show.


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What do Jamie Lee Curtis, Tig Notaro, Victoria Beckham, Hozier, and Reza Aslan all have in common? They are guests this season on the all-new podcast from Lemonada Media, “As Me” with Sinéad. Host Sinéad Burke helps us understand what it’s like to walk in someone else’s shoes by talking about asking them what it’s like to be them. Subscribe now to As Me with Sinéad wherever you get your podcasts.

Nov 01 2019

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Rank #6: “The Average American White Racist” with Christian Picciolini

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On the Season 1 finale, reformed extremist Christian Picciolini [4:02] joins Ana to talk about his experience as a white supremacist, how his mind changed, and the work he does today to show people that there is life after hate. They discuss the rise and shifts in white supremacy within the United States and the way that white supremacists have softened their image by using coded language and racial dog whistles. The conversation turns to the ways in which white supremacy is like an addiction, and the possibilities of treating them both through recovery, kindness, and empathy. He also shares his own perspective on how to confront white supremacy: not with violence, but by helping people identify and fill in the holes in their lives, and showing how they can change. Later on, Ana and Christian touch on one of the most important things to keep in mind when dealing with not just white supremacy but ordinary interactions with people in everyday life: everybody is going through something we can’t see. The conversation ends with what makes Christian worried, and hopeful, about the society we now live in.

Afterward, [58:43] Ana revisits last week’s episode about Black Panther, acknowledging the ways her own whiteness makes it impossible to fully grasp Wakanda’s decision to not take back Killmonger.

Thank you to everyone that has been a part of this podcast in some way for making it a wonderful first season. We’ll be back soon.

You can find Christian’s book here: https://www.christianpicciolini.com/book

Here’s the Kevin Love piece Ana referenced in the show: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/kevin-love-everyone-is-going-through-something/

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Mar 09 2018

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Rank #7: “Atheism and the Alt-Right, with Chris Stedman and Diana Butler Bass”

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This week, Humanist chaplain and community activist Chris Stedman joined Ana to discuss the unique relationship between movement atheism and the Alt-Right. Chris wrote a piece on the trend from prominent atheists like Bill Maher, Sam Harris, and Richard Dawkins to promote some liberal social policies while putting forth critiques of social justice policies that amount to an “alt-light.” Ana and Chris delve deep into the atheist movement, investigating why and how atheists have found common ground with Christian white nationalism in the broader Trump coalition.

Historian Diana Butler Bass joins Chris and Ana to answer a listener question about finding forgiveness for Christians in the age of the Trump, as well as for a discussion about the many roads that compassion and forgiveness can lead down.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3k7jx8/too-many-atheists-are-veering-dangerously-toward-the-alt-right

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Apr 20 2018

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Rank #8: “If you’re worried about the future, look at the past”

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Disagreeing about facts is one thing, what if you disagree about reality? Adam Savage (“Mythbusters,” Tested.com) joins to help a WFLT listener whose sister has embraced right-wing conspiracy theories. MTV’s Ezekiel Kweku comes by to discuss how America’s dystopian future could be based on its dystopian past.

Mar 24 2017

1hr 4mins

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Rank #9: “I have no regrets”

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We take a field trip to Iowa to interview Trump supporters in line for his don’t-call-it-a-campaign rally. Our main question: Have any of your relationships suffered because of political differences? Their answers will probably not surprise you. Their attitudes might.

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Jun 23 2017

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Rank #10: What about Bill?

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This week, New York Mag writer and author Rebecca Traister (@rtraister) stops by to mark one year since the election of Donald Trump with an episode dedicated to Hillary Clinton.

No, we don’t re-litigate her campaign or make jokes about Wisconsin. We do put in context the first female presidential candidate ever nominated by a major party, her life and her feminism — and help Ana, a self-described Hillary skeptic, make sense of some complicated feelings about the historic figure that is HRC.

In the face of mounting scandals regarding sexual predators, Ana and Rebecca also take on the question that haunts many modern feminists: “But what about Bill?”

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Nov 10 2017

1hr 10mins

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Rank #11: "Too soon to start shooting"

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#NeverTrump diehard Rick Wilson discusses his past as an attack ad maker, and whether he helped create the post-truth era. MTV writer Jane Coatson joins to ponder when violence against the government is justified.

Mar 10 2017

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Rank #12: "White Fragility 101"

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On this week’s pod, Ana (@anamariecox) sat down with Robin DiAngelo, author of the book White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism. To kick things off, Robin explained what white fragility is, and the impact that it has not just on white people, but white progressives in particular. Ana and Robin then talked about the need for people who recognize racism’s ills not to get complacent or arrogant, but rather be actively anti-racist, and continue educating themselves. They then switched gears, and explored why white women often fail to be allies for people of color before probing the ways de facto segregation and tokenizing minorities are so deeply problematic. Ana and Robin also put forth a series of suggestions for what well-meaning white people should do when they put their foot in their mouths and say something racist. 
You can find Robin’s book here: https://www.amazon.com/White-Fragility-People-About-Racism/dp/0807047414
Robin referenced an article she wrote, which you can find here: https://libjournal.uncg.edu/ijcp/article/viewFile/249/116

Get in touch with us on Twitter at @crooked_friends or email us at withfriendslikepod@gmail.com.
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Aug 24 2018

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Rank #13: Band-Aids on a Broken Leg with Lyz Lenz

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Are you looking for a book on the Midwest and Christianity that doesn’t excuse racism? Good news! This week Lyz Lenz (@lyzl) joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to talk about her book God Land: A Story of Faith, Loss, and Renewal in Middle America. They start by diving into the parallels between Lyz’s divorce and the 2016 election; America is a lot like your crappy college boyfriend whose red flags you ignored. Afterwards, they discuss what our silence means, especially as white liberals. Finally, they talk about atonement and what it means to better yourself when you have harmed others. 


Find Lyz’s book here and her profile on Alan Dershowitz here.


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Oct 25 2019

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Rank #14: “Almost Bravery w/ Rick Wilson”

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This week, the one and only Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) stopped by to talk with Ana (@anamariecox) about his new book, Everything Trump Touches Dies. Ana kicked things off by asking Rick about things he regrets from his past as a political consultant. That led to a conversation about the reaction he’s received from past colleagues and clients to the book, and why he decided to move from working in the political shadows to the light. After Ana called Rick out for the way he uses mental illness and drug addiction in the book to mock Trump supporters, they discussed the people that have disappointed Rick in the Trump era. At the top of the list: Rudy Giuliani.

Afterwards, friend of the pod Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith) joined Ana to answer a listener question from Alex, a Spanish teacher at a conservative, largely homogenous school who wants to reach her students and help them learn that discrimination isn’t ok.
You can find Rick’s book here.

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Aug 10 2018

1hr 9mins

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Rank #15: “Far Too Normal: An Update on the Kavanaugh Confirmation with Rick Wilson”

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TW: Sexual Assault

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This week Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) sat down with Republican writer Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson). They delved into the recent testimony of Dr. Christine Blasey Ford and the reactions from people across the country. The conversation shifted to the relationship between Democrats and Republicans and mistrust and miscommunication between the parties. They also discussed the women who have come forward with their own personal stories and the culture of sexual assault within this country. They ended by predicting the results of the confirmation and the future of the GOP’s message and direction.

Get in touch with us on Twitter at @crooked_friends or email the show at withfriendslikepod@gmail.com.
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Sep 28 2018

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Rank #16: Polar Oppositions (feat. Rick Wilson and Jordan Klepper).

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Y’all ever create a constitutional crisis to own the libs? This week, Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to talk Ana down after another week of neverending bad news. They discuss light topics such as the recent pro-forced birth laws in Alabama and Georgia, the need for democrats to campaign in the Midwest, and the future of our country. Afterwards, Jordan Klepper (@jordanklepper) comes on to talk about the formation of his new show Klepper, and what it means to weaponize your privilege when your show is based on a flawed premise. Jordan reminds us that there are people working for good, and that the world is not ending quite yet-- at least not without a fight.

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May 17 2019

1hr 22mins

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Rank #17: Mussolini's Valet with Rick Wilson

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Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) and Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) meet for their monthly airing of grievances. Rick and Ana discuss how America is quickly becoming dismissed on the world stage, why a White House social media summit is the pinnacle of dum-dum behavior, how fetishization of normalization is unpleasant, and how the executive order overreaches of the Obama administration (which once caused Republicans to self-immolate) seem quaint in retrospect. Also: A New Game! (What? We can have new games. Lovett doesn’t have a trademark on new games. Lovett, come play our games!)

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Jul 12 2019

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Rank #18: "Real Shit with Ashley Nicole Black"

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This week Ashley Nicole Black (@ashleyn1cole) joined Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to talk about her own experiences as a writer and an academic and pass out some advice along the way. They began by talking about the changes in comedy in the age of widespread “wokeness.” They covered broader social issues, and eventually got on a more personal level: the pressure to become a mother and what it means to reject it. Ashley offered a potential solution to the jealousy and resentment women sometimes feel when they’re pitted against each other. Finally, Ashley had a suggestion for white people who think they need to have some black friends.
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Jan 11 2019

1hr 15mins

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Rank #19: One God, Under Trump w/ Jack Jenkins and Parker Molloy

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First [5:35], why aren’t evangelicals turning on the decidedly ungodly Trump? Jack Jenkins (@jackmjenkins), religion editor at Think Progress, explains how Christian nationalism has fused with Trumpism to create an unbreakable (?) bond. Second [43:06], Parker Molloy, (@ParkerMolloy), from Upworthy, joins to talk about the re-animation of the “trans ban” and why it matters beyond the military. Also, responding to a listener who asked about the ways one can help in the fight against bigotry *besides* going to protests and rallies.

Reach the pod at @crooked_friends on Twitter and email us your questions (for our new weekly segment!) at withfriendslikepod@gmail.com. We’re also taking your adult sex-ed questions for an upcoming show, so email us those, too. We welcome *audio* questions, using a recording app. 

And LIVE SHOW in AUSTIN, TX on 9/23 at the Texas Tribune Festival. Find out more at https://www.texastribune.org/festival/

Relevant to the discussion — Jack’s Christian nationalism series, part 1: https://thinkprogress.org/trumps-christian-nationalism-c6fe206e40cc/ and part 2: https://thinkprogress.org/history-christian-nationalism-e3303b46c3bc/

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Aug 25 2017

1hr 15mins

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Rank #20: The Witching Hour with Dianna E Anderson

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Have you ever cancelled a celebrity? Do you believe you can separate the art from the artist? Do Twitter arguments and trending hashtags matter in the real world? This week Dianna Anderson (@diannaeanderson) joins Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) to answer all these questions and more. In her new book, Problematic: How Toxic Callout Culture is Destroying Feminism, Dianna Anderson ponders the strive towards perfectionism in the feminist movement and the positive and negative implications of that struggle, as it seeps into mainstream culture. Together, Ana and Dianna talk about what it means to be called out, what it’s like to experience it, and where to go from there.
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Jan 18 2019

1hr 18mins

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