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The Grey Nato

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Discussing watches, adventure, travel, diving, cars and gear. Hosts Jason Heaton and James Stacey break down their love for adventure, their addiction to watches, and the many forms both can take. Have a question? Let us know at

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Discussing watches, adventure, travel, diving, cars and gear. Hosts Jason Heaton and James Stacey break down their love for adventure, their addiction to watches, and the many forms both can take. Have a question? Let us know at

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Pure adventure and watches. A focus on the tools to live your life.

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Pure adventure and watches. A focus on the tools to live your life.
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The Grey Nato

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Discussing watches, adventure, travel, diving, cars and gear. Hosts Jason Heaton and James Stacey break down their love for adventure, their addiction to watches, and the many forms both can take. Have a question? Let us know at

Rank #1: The Grey Nato - EP 20 - "Seiko"

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This week we decided to go deep on one of our favorite brands, Seiko! From our roots in watch collecting to recent finds and what we’d love to see in the future of this prolific brand. Have a great Seiko story, a fav model or a Seiko grail? Let us know at

After Seiko, Jason and James talk about everything from cheap blankets to sport coats, tax forms and, what else is new, Porsches. Just press play, thanks so much for listening!

Jason’s first Seiko 7002 Diver

James’ first Seiko SNA411

Seiko SKX007
Seiko SKX779 “Black Monster”
Marine Master 300
Prospex SRP777
SBDC005 Orange Sumo
SRP313 New Monster
SNZF45 Seiko 5 "Baby Monster”
Seiko SUN023 Prospex Kinetic GMT
Padi version
Seiko Spirit “Rising Sun” SCVE003
Grand Seiko SBGM021 GMT

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Paul’s Grand Seiko Spring Drive GMT SBGE001
Jason’s Emperor Tuna SBDX011
James’ 6117-6400 World Timer
Seiko Astron
Seiko Prospex SRP779
12 hour Steel Yobokies Bezel

New Business
Jason’s "new" citizen Aqualand
Double Black Diamond Packable Down Blanket
Uniqlo Comfort Lightweight Sport Coat
BSF407 information

Final Notes
"The Lost City of Z" (by David Grann)
Outside online’s Essential Survival Tools
“This Porsche 964 Is the Evolution of a Driver” (via Petrolicious)
Danny MacAskill’s “Wee Day Out”

Oct 25 2016

1hr 17mins


Rank #2: The Grey Nato - EP 28 - Rolex

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This week we're going deep on Rolex, just as we did in Episode 20 for Seiko. From our shared love of their sport watches to the various phases of Rolex appreciation that the average watch guy will experience, we try and get a handle on what makes this massive brand so appealing. After that, we've got ice diving, camera chat, new straps and John Wick Chapter II. Stay buckled in for Final Notes to hear about one of our favorite car reviewers and a listener who snagged a lovely vintage T-Graph. Just press play and thanks for listening!

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Thanks for listening!

Feb 21 2017

1hr 6mins


Rank #3: The Grey Nato - Episode 12 - "One Watch???"

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Episode 12 is all about the “One Watch” question - listener Scott wrote in to ask if we could only have one watch, what would it be? We made this question our main topic for the show, so join us as we walk through our watch-picking process and answer this troublesome question. This week we also have a special interview as Jason sat down with Hamilton Powell, the man behind (@crownandcaliber) to chat about the vintage and pre-owned watch markets, the consignment game and literally deconstructing the Apple Watch. It’s a great interview. All that and more, just press play (thanks for listening!).

Main Topic - The One Watch Question
James’ List
Patek Philippe Aquanaut 5164A-001
Sinn 103 Ti UTC Testaf
Rolex GMT Master II 16710

Jason’s List
Doxa 750T GMT
Bremont Terra Nova
Seiko SRP777
Rolex Submariner 16040M

New Business:
Jason’s new Doxa Sub 200 Searambler T-Graph
Jason hiking in Colorado

Raven Defender
Toxic Royal Strap

Q and A:
Graham Chronofighter Navy Seal Foundation
Victorinox Swiss Army Infantry PVD
Ball Fireman Stormchaser
Seiko Chrono SNN021P1
Hanhart Pioneer Stealth 1882 Limited Edition

Hamilton Powell of -

Final Notes:
Black Diamond Spot
“Gadd’s Truth: Five Fitness Commandments to Live By”
“To Hell and Back” (Post by Jeffrey M O’Brien)

"Cave Diving El Toh - Yucatan" (video)
“Raising the Dead” (Post by Tim Zimmermann)
“Blind Descent” (Book, James Tabor)
“Im Going To The Moon. Who’s With Me?” (Ted Talk, Bill Stone)

Jul 05 2016

1hr 36mins


Rank #4: The Grey NATO - Ep 61 - Don't Do That With Your Watch

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Episode 61: James is back from Italy with A. Lange and Sohne for the annual Concorso d'Eleganza and Jason is off to Sri Lanka. Before he's wheels up, following a listener email, the guys chat about the sorts of activities in which a watch is likely best left at home. After that, final noes brings a look at the first Sherpa to the top of the world, Chiron details, Armchair Expert, and Outside's best stories. Just press play and thanks for listening. Send your questions to!

Concorso d’Eleganza
Villa d’Este
Villa Erba
The Fashion and Watches of Concorso D’Eleganza 2018
Chat with Wilhelm Schmid
Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
Ferrari 335 Sport
Ken Saito’s coverage of Concourso cars
Lange Datograph on wrist
Fjallraven Tote Pack No.1
Jason’s trip to Sri Lanka
The Maldives
Becky Kagan Schott
The SS Daniel J Morrell
Aquala Drysuit

Tudor Pelagos
James’ Aerospace
Garmin Fenix
Jason’s Aqualand
CWC Royal Diver
Suunto Vector
Bremont MBII
Victorinox Inox

“The Story of the First Sherpa to Climb to the Top of Mount Everest”
Armchair Expert Podcast
Outside’s “The Best Stories We’ve Ever Told”
Raising the Dead
The Engineering of the Bugatti Chiron

Jun 12 2018



Rank #5: The Grey NATO - Ep 95 - The 2019 Watch (And Watch Things) Gift Guide

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As a follow up to episode 94’s holiday gift guide, this episode pushes the holiday timeline to offer a watch-specific list of goodies for your gift-giving season. From full-on watches to minuscule accessories, cases, straps, and even books, the TGN boys dig deep with some classic favs and some new picks for even the most seasoned listeners.

Before that meaty main topic, the guys catch up over Jason’s early-season cross-country skiing, James’ road trip to NYC in the Jeep, Ford v Ferrari, and Bond’s new Seamaster. There’s a lot to catch up on and Jason and James are thrilled to have Oris Watches sponsoring this episode to offer an overview of the brand’s long-standing work in ocean conservation. Just press play and thanks so much for listening.
4:07 DJI Mavic 2 Pro
6:24 Ford v Ferrari
6:33 Go Like Hell by AJ Baime
7:32 The 24 Hour War
10:33 New Omega Seamaster Diver 300M 007 Edition
16:50 Oris Clean Ocean Limited Edition
21:23 The Pacific Garbage Screening Project
28:30 Braun Reflex Control Travel Alarm Clock
30:00 Horofix Springbar pliers
30:45 Spare spring bars!
31:18 Watchmakers screw drivers
32:18 Toxic Natos Nylon straps
33:15 Crown and Buckle Chevron Strap
34:12 Tudor Fabric Strap Video
34:33 Haveston Coasters
35:16 60 Minutes book
36:00 Zuludiver 328 rubber nato
36:33 Watches: A Guide By Hodinkee
38:27 Vario SG Single Watch Travel Case
39:36 Worn and Wound EDC Watch Fold
41:40 Swatch Watches
42:18 Casio A500 “Worldtimer”
43:15 Seiko SUS Nano Universe watches
44:40 Seiko SRP7XX series dive watches
47:12 Stephen’s SKX013 review
47:43 Lorier Gemini Chronograph
49:35 Doxa SUB 200
52:21 Garmin Fenix Watches
59:10 The Curse of the Ship of Gold
1:02:30 Bubble Subs Arise, Opening Eyes To The Deep Sea

Dec 05 2019

1hr 6mins


Rank #6: The Grey NATO - Ep 68 - What Watch Should I Get?

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Episode 68 is all about how to pick your next watch, and why it might not be the best question left to someone else. But first, catch up with a jet-lagged Jason fresh back from a trip to Sri Lanka full of old Land Rovers and more. Likewise, James is back from NYC with Free Solo on the mind and both of the guys are excited to be back in New York for the upcoming Hodinkee 10 events in early December (see you there?).

When trying to pick your next watch, an email to a podcast host or watch editor might not get you any closer to finding a watch that works for your wrist, this is why it’s hard for Jason and James to tell you what to buy. Watch taste requires experience and time to develop, and whether you get that experience from meetups, trying on friend’s watches, or buying and selling lots of different models, you have to be in the mix to figure it out - no one can do it for you. Listen in as Jason and James dig in on how to pick a watch, how to know what works for you, and if it makes sense to think about your watches as investments.

Finish up with Final Notes about risk from the filmmakers behind Free Solo, stretches we should all be doing every day, a gorgeous new magazine about Chamonix, and James stepping way out of his element to talk about cooking. Press play and thanks for listening. Any notes or questions, hit to get in touch.

Jason’s Land Rovers of Sri Lanka
Columbo’s Annual British Car Show
Free Solo
The Watch, Thoroughly Revised
Hodinkee 10 Weekend
First Man (movie)

Final Notes:
“What if he Falls?” NY Times
“Stretches You Should Do Daily” Outside Online Video
“Chamonix” Super Alpine magazine
Bone broth recipes:

Nov 15 2018



Rank #7: The Grey NATO - Ep 94 - The 2019 TGN Holiday Gift Guide

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It’s that time of the year and the TGN boys have even managed to get their annual TGN Gift Guide up with shopping time to spare. It’s an action packed episode with some housekeeping up top (a huge thank you to everyone that helped us cross 1 million downloads) before Jason and James dig into their gift choices for an especially TGN gift giving season.

In the event this is your first TGN Gift Guide, the rules are simple, both Jason and James get five picks, with four of them preferably being well under $100. Their final selection is the “break the bank” option and it reflects a choice with a more generous budget. After that, stay tuned for a varied Final Notes that will have you clad in vintage military fashion, searching for gold, reading some of HODINKEE’s best work, and keeping your feet as warm as possible. Just press play and thanks so much for listening.
2:55 Hodinkee x Omega Popup
7:13 Global Cycling Network Youtube Channel
7:59 Garmin Cadence Sensor
17:03 Hydroflask 16oz Coffee Flask
19:42 Paracord!
22:50 Grip6 Belts
27:03 Road & Track Magazine subscription
30:45 Sidetracked Magazine subscription
34:46 Anker Powercore Fusion
39:10 Models For Divers
43:40 Topo Global Briefcase
47:40 Lego Technic Land Rover Defender
52:50 Vankyo Leisure 510 Projector (or any cheap projector)
1:00:57 The Fisherman’s Secret
1:05:29 Hodinkee Magazine Volume 5
1:08:25 Cole’s story for Hodinkee Magazine Vol 5
1:10:15 Saunders Militaria
1:14:35 Blundstone Sheepskin Footbeds

Nov 21 2019

1hr 17mins


Rank #8: The Grey NATO - Ep 92 - TGN Film Club 3

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As summer fades and the days get shorter, we thought it would be fun to get another TGN Film Club on the books. As we in the Northern Hemisphere start to spend a bit more time inside, Jason and James have ten great movies to make the most of any time you have to spend on the couch. From James’ endless love of Denis Villeneuve and Michael Mann to Jason’s fondness for Redford as he sports a Doxa Sharkhunter, this list spans seven decades of amazing movies. The boys are sure you’ve seen some but hope there is a fresh pick or two among the list.

Films aside, both Jason and James have new home workout plans following Ep 91 and they catch up after a few weeks of travel. James finally got a vehicle and Jason managed to unplug in a manner most Bond. Just press play, please enjoy, and we can’t forget a huge thank you to Hamilton watches for sponsoring this episode of TGN - click here for a closer look at their Intra-Matic Automatic Chronograph (

3:03 A1 Home Rowing Machine
20:26 Grand Seiko UK Events
21:30 Jason in Goldeneye

30:35 Hamilton Intra-Matic Automatic Chronograph

37:05 Jaws
43:00 Blade Runner 2049
48:15 The Constant Gardener
51:00 Sicario
55:04 3 Days Of The Condor
1:00:20 The Town
1:04 20 Marathon Man
1:07:17 Collateral
1:13:47 Downhill Racer
1:16:44 Rope

1:22:35 Frozen Ceiling
1:24:10 Topo Global Briefcase
1:24:46 Josh Perez on Instagram
11:30:28 Fraser Kit Co Bi-Fold Wallet
1:34:45 Ted Gushue’s Instagram
1:37:05 Inside Skunkworks Podcast

Oct 24 2019

1hr 39mins


Rank #9: The Grey NATO - Ep 97 - Our Best Bits Of 2019

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It’s episode 97 and the date ensures it’s also the freshest TGN of 2020. For this first episode of the decade, the guys look back at their favorite experiences of 2019. A chatty retrospective, Jason and James recall fast cars, hiking in Wales, living like Fleming in Jamaica, new Jeeps, cameras aplenty, and some of the amazing people they got to meet and work with last year.

Stay in the mix for a recommendation of their favorite shows, movies, podcasts, music, and books from 2019 and a solid set of deep diving and EDC-ready final notes. All the best in the new year, just press play and thanks for listening!

1:35 Lego Technics Defender
4:50 Olympus XA
12:05 Samsung T5 Drives
12:55 DJI Mavik 2 Pro
14:10 Loupedeck+
20:05 Train trip to Murren
21:40 The Night Manager
23:40 Porsche 911 Ice Driving
23:40 McLarens in Arizona
24:00 James’ Leica Profile
24:44 Pfaff McLaren
25:30 Lamborghini Huracan Evo
25:54 Hodinkee Magazine Issue 5
26:00 Josh Perez
26:05 Jeep Roadtrip to NYC
32:00 Jason’s Trip to Wales
33:40 Imperial War Museum
34:25 Bonaire
35:28 Lost Ships of Cortez
37:50 Hodinkee Blancpain LE shoot
38:12 Tudor Pelagos Dive Weekend Shoot
38:25 Jason in Goldeneye, Jamaica
40:35 James shooting the Monaco GP
41:20 Tudor Vietnam “The Long Return”
43:22 Cory Richards
43: 28 Paul Scurfield
43:30 “Nims” Purja
43:32 Andy Mann
44:00 Tom Stafford on Hodinkee Radio
45:42 Bret Curry
47:51 Succession
48:15 Game of Thrones
48:50 The Game
49:05 The Spy
49:20 Killing Eve
49:40 The Irishman
50:00 Two Popes
50:10 Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
50:40 Apollo 11 documentary
51:00 The Last Breath
53:15 Parasite
54:50 Rick and Morty
55:15 Barry
57:13 Norman F** Rockwell! - Lana Del Rey
58:10 Yoke Lore
58:40 All Fantasy Everything
59:25 Jeselnik & Rosenthal Vanity Project
59:55 Threedom
59:56 Collecting Cars with Chris Harris
59:58 Inside Skunkworks
1:00:00 The Rewatchables
1:00:55 The Outlaw Sea - William Langewiesche
1:01:40 The Pigeon Tunnel - John Le Carré
1:02:40 The Magnetic North
1:03:50 Sea Salt: Memories and Essays - Stan Waterman
1:04:20 Blue Water White Death
1:05:00 Where Men Win Glory
1:13:55 The Deepsea
1:16:10 Topo Designs x Gear Patrol Backpack Tote (listen for a discount)

Jan 02 2020

1hr 21mins


Rank #10: The Grey Nato - Ep 33 - The Perfect Watch Trio

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What three watches would you get if you has $10k to spend? Based on a simple but thought-provoking question sent in by TGN listener Matt, Jason and James dive into the idea of a perfect watch trio, from how to pick the watches to the philosophy behind perfecting the blend of sporty, diver, chrono, gmt, titanium, quartz and more. If you want to weigh in, send us your perfect trio via email to Also in the show, James is prepping for a trip into the South Pacific, Jason is back from St. Barts, and the winner of our Unimatic Giveaway - listen to find out if it was you! Finally, tweed and whisky in scotland, the rules of professonal speeding and a list of great gear to kick off the camping/hiking season. Just press play, thanks for listening!

St Barts
RM Diver
Clippterton Expedition
Clipperton Islands
Sony A6500
Topo Quick Pack
Tom Bihn packing cube

Perfect 3 Watch Collection for under $10k
Eterna Super KonTiki 1973 LE
Rolex Explorer II 16570
Seiko SBGM021
Junghans Max Bill Chronoscope
Sinn EZM 10
Tudor Heritage Chrono
Bremont Boeing Chronograph

James’ Trio:
Seiko SRP777
Used Breitling Aerospace E56026


Halios Tropik or Seaforth

Jason’s Trio:
Speedy Vintage
Citizen Aqualand ana/digi

- or -

Grand Seiko GMT
Rolex Sub (5513 or 14060)


Doxa Sub 300 Pro
Junghans Chronoscope

Under $1000?

Seiko 6117-6400 Worldtimer

Vintage diver of some sort
Seiko Worldtimer

Alex Roy
Cannon Ball
Brock Yates
"Alex Roy's Rules of Professional Speeding"
“When Ocean’s 11 Met Pebble Beach”
“The Coldest Cannonball Run Record. On Record"
"Diving Into The Unknown" (movie)
Outside Online 20 Pieces of Gear Under $20
“Men On a Mission: A Hunt for Whisky and Tweed in Scotland”

May 02 2017

1hr 13mins


Rank #11: The Grey NATO - Ep 96 - DOXA

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The last episode of the year! Of the decade! And what a year it has been (thanks to all of you who have been listening). For episode 96, the guys are reviving a format that hasn’t been used since Ep 28, a brand focus episode. The format is simple, Jason and James pick a brand they love and chat about why there is a connection, the scope of that brand’s products, and how they relate to the greater idea of watch enthusiasm. For the third-ever such episode, they are chatting about Doxa. A fav brand for both Jason and James, Doxa makes dive watches that are colorful, historic, and very nicely made – not to mention endlessly loveable.

Before Doxa, the guys have a chat about Leica and the show wraps up with a new (old) bracelet for your Speedy, the watches of James Bond, and a concert tape that James won’t stop talking about. As the next episode falls just barely into 2020, Jason and James would like to extend a huge thank you, everyone who has been listening, commenting, emailing, sharing, and reviewing and to all of the brands that supported the show over the past year. Just press play, thanks for listening, and have a great end of the year.
5:00 Leica’s profile with James
5:30 Hodinkee “Ghost Edition” Leica M10-P
9:20 Leica SL2
11:35 Leica MP
13:00 Leica Q2
14:31 Rolex brand episode
14:32 Seiko brand episode
14:40 Doxa Watches
28:40 SUB 200
31:10 SUB 300T
31:47 SUB 1200
32:02 SUB 1500T
32:37 SUB 4000T
33:14 SUB 200 T.Graph
36:30 Jason’s first dive review story of DOXA 800Ti
41:10 Mission31
47:43 Forstner Komfit JB Mesh Bracelet
51:10 Jason’s “The Watches of James Bond and Why They Matter”
52:15 Vulfpeck live at Madison Square Garden

Dec 19 2019



Rank #12: The Grey NATO - Ep 58 - Everyday Travel Tips

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With tons of travel on the horizon the guys sat down and talked about how they make the most of the flights, the new cites, and the strange hotel rooms. From what they’ve got to have on the plane, to researching a destination, to a few simple tricks to make the whole process a bit more simple. Travel aside, we’ve got a Lamborghini SUV, dive watches in Bonaire, underwater photography, a new old T-Graph, the Motorhead Hillclimb, The Jackal, and much more.

Lamborghini Urus
Bentley Continental GT
Concorso D’Eleganza (a car show)
Jason in Bonaire
Omega Seamaster
JLC Polaris Memovox
Oris Prodiver GMT
Oris Der Meistertaucher
Oris Aquis Hammerhead LE
Certina DS PH200M
Garmin Descent Dive Smartwatch
Nauticam housings
GoPro dive housing
Kip Evans
Jason’s DOXA T-Graph Sharkhunter

Tenba DNA 15 Bag
Compression socks
Bose Quietcomfort 35 Headphones
Sony noise cancelling earphones

Eddie Bauer Packable backpack
Tom Bihn Packing Cube Backpack
Pelican carry on case
Patagonia black hole bag
Red Oxx Bags
Expandable mesh dive bag

Accommodations and Rentals

The Worn and Wound Podcast EP 62 Dive Watch Review
Motorhead HIllclimb
The Jackal Men’s Magazine
Outside Magazine’s “Out There”

May 01 2018

1hr 22mins


Rank #13: The Grey Nato - EP 21 - Watches Under $1000

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Episode 21 is all about great watches under $1000. You don’t have to spend a fortune to get a great watch and Jason and James have the low down on a handful of great examples of excellent watches under $1000 USD. After that, we’ve got new BMW films, US customs forms, Cliffhangers, and a crazy VW commercial. Just press play and thanks so much for listening!

Victorinox Infantry GMT
I.N.O.X Titanium
Casio Rangeman
Citizen Aqualand JP2000
Seiko SRP777
Scurfa Bell Diver 1
Helson SharkDiver 40
Magrette Moana Pacific Waterman
Halios Watches
Archimede Pilot
Autodromo GroupB
Junghans Max Bill
Hamilton Intra-Matic 38
MKII Hawkinge
Benarus Trekker 40
Zodiac Super Seawolf 53
Vintage Skindivers
Squale 50 Atmos

Customs Form for US
Museum of Science and Industry

"Cliffhanger" EP07 - Outside Online
“the Pleasure and Pain of the Climbing Life” NYT Essay

BMW Films
“The Escape” (new):
Orignal Series Playlist:

VW Amarok Commercial:

Nov 08 2016

1hr 14mins


Rank #14: The Grey NATO - Ep 78 - The Baselworld 2019 Megasode

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It’s our annual Baselworld Megasode! At over 2 hours long, the boys really broke the piggy bank for this one and they’ve got all the goods for your listening pleasure. New cameras? For sure. Backpacks? Got ‘em. Day trips into the Swiss Alps like it ain’t no thing? Get on their level. All this and Jason and James haven’t even hit the watches yet.

Dig in for a chat about a couple of new items from Garmin and then a full breakdown of everything the boys liked (and maybe disliked) from Baselworld. Spanning a new “Arnie” from Seiko, a $70,000 Doxa, a proper Navitimer, some heat from Oris, two-tone goodness from Tudor and Rolex, a new Aerospace, and a clock of literal automotive inspiration, Jason and James had a great time at Baselworld and left Switzerland with plenty to chat about. Just press play and thanks so much for listening.

1:00 Webby link - please vote for HODINKEE
3:23 Jason’s trip out of Basel
4:40 On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
14:25 Leica Q
18:50 Bret Curry Instagram
19:05 Bret Curry Leica Q Show in Bellevue, WA
21:30 Stephen’s review of the Leica Q2
22:40 Timbuk2 Vert Backpack
26:24 Topo Mountain Briefcase
28:25 Kill Hubris Washed Pocket Tee
31:10 Nauticam housing for Nikon Z7
32:45 Garmin Descent MKI
34:00 Garmin Instinct
45:22 Seiko “Arnie” SNJ025
47:40 Seiko Prospex 1970 Diver’s Re-Creation SLA033
52:04 Citizen Promaster Anniversary Lines
55:22 Bulova Computron
58:20 Doxa Sub 200 T.Graph LE in Solid Gold
1:05:05 Sinn 206 Arctis II
1:07:05 Sinn 104 LE with green dial
1:11:05 Oris Aquis GMT
1:14:15 Oris Divers Sixty-Five “Bico”
1:15:00 Oris Big Crown Pointer Date Red Dial
1:19:08 Breitling Navitimer 806 1959 Re-Edition
1:21:05 Tag Heuer Autavia Isograph
1:26:40 Cole’s Hands-On with the P01
1:31:35 Black Bay Chrono Two-Tone
1:34:15 Rolex Sea-Dweller Two-Tone
1:37:40 GMT-Master with meteorite dial
1:39:14 Zodiac Aerospace GMT
1:41:25 Nomos Tangente Sport and Club Sport
1:43:10 Monta Atlas
1:48:10 L’Epee Time Fast D8
1:52:30 Hublot Classic Fusion Ferrari GT
1:56:25 De Bethune DB28GS Grand Bleu
1:58:00 Black Badger
2:01:27 The Extraordinary Untold Story of Four Navy SEAL ‘Musclemen' who Brought Apollo 11 Astronauts Home
2:03:05 The Enormocast Podcast

Apr 11 2019

2hr 7mins


Rank #15: The Grey NATO - Ep 79 - Straps!

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It’s episode 79! Did you think the last episode was nerdy, how about one mostly about straps? WE GOT YOU. It’s been a while since the boys dug into their favorite straps. From NATOs to bracelets, elastic and leather, don’t miss this comprehensive look at all of the best ways to keep your watches comfortably on wrist.

From the top, we have Jason’s download from his recent trip to Bonaire (replete with some solid new camera gear) and be sure to stay tuned for final notes where James has a recommendation to keep the sun off your face while still staying (a bit) stylish while Jason has the latest chat with TGN-fav Conrad Anker. Thanks so much for listening, just press play and if you have a minute please leave us a review in iTunes. Chat to you in two weeks!

2:10 Jason in Bonaire
4:55 Bulova Oceanographer LE
10:00 Nikon Z7
15:00 Jason diving a 50-year-old T.Graph
17:40 Jason’s new Zodiac Aerospace GMT
24:10 Vintage tropic rubber
24:30 Everest Bands Rubber Strap
26:50 Toxic Rubber
27:00 “porthole” rubber strap
28:00 Barton silicone rubber straps
28:55 Zulu Diver 328 rubber nato
31:00 Toxic Nylon Watch straps
33:30 Monta 20mm Mil Style Strap
35:00 Maratac straps
35:30 Single piece with fabric keeper
36:40 Haveston Natos
37:10 Crown and Buckle Supreme NATO
38:00 Kill Hubris Lizard Camo NATO
38:38 GasGasBones straps
40:00 Crown and Buckle Perlon
41:20 Erika’s Originals MN Elastic Strap
43:40 Hodinkee Shop Leather Straps
44:00 Reid strap
45:15 Roverhaven straps
47:15 Bund straps!
48:30 “shark mesh” bracelet
50:30 Hadley Roma Jubilee 20mm
54:30 Terra Incognita: The Adventure Podcast with Conrad Anker
56:40 Best Made Japanese Canvas Ball Cap

Apr 25 2019

1hr 1min


Rank #16: The Grey NATO - Ep 46 - Sartorial Adventures

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In this episode, we started chatting about clothes and then entered some sort of a fugue state that encompassed much of an episode. From Patagonia, Gustin and Eddie Bauer to Uniqlo, Sitka, and a great many socks - we’ve got you covered. Literally. Jason and James also chat about new watches, smooth NATOs, Formula 1, the wreck of the Gunilda, and Vulfpeck’s “Hero Town”. Thanks for listening, just press play! Send your questions to .

Jason in Cabo Plumo with Rolex
Jason’s Interview with Ben Saunders
James @ Formula 1
James’ piece on the 50th AMG Ingenieur
James’ Panerai 42 mm Submersible Review
Toxic Shiznit Herringbone
Toxic on wrist
Doxa Blacklung
CWC 1980 Royal Navy Diver Re-Issue Review
New Beagle versions from breakfast with Muyshondt
Muyshondt Beagle

Patagonia Nano Puff
Yvon Chouinard
Eddie Bauer Guide Pro Pants
Icebreaker Zip
Ibex Zip
Smart Wool
Icebreaker Spire Crew

Darn Tough Socks
Dahlgren Socks
Hiker GX Socks
Mark’s Work Wearhouse Socks (there are many)

Duluth Trading Co Flex Fire Hose Pants
Gustin Jeans
Sitka Apparel
Kill Hubris Washed Pocket Tee
Alpha Industries MA-1
Uniqlo Comfort Jacket

Red Wing Boots
James’ Iron Rangers
Allen Edmond Carson City Boots (discontinued, similar)
Red Wing Weekenders
Palladium Boots
Blundstone Boots
Scarpa Crux Approach Shoes

P. Elliot Watchmaker Kickstarter
Vulfpeck “Hero Town”

Becky Kagan Schott Photos
Becky’s Instagram
The Gunilda Wreck
REI and Patagonia Selling Used Gear

Oct 31 2017

1hr 11mins


Rank #17: The Grey NATO - EP 59 - Collecting Watches?

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Episode 59: Jason’s been diving in Bonaire and James is back from Rome after driving the Lamborghini Urus. With more dives and drives on the horizon, the guys take a few minutes to catch up over camera gear, a new Vancouver-themed LE from Halios, and diving around Socorro. For the main topic, Jason and James discus how they approach the idea of collecting watches. It’s a wide-ranging chat on appeal, experience, changing tastes, and old classics. To wrap up, Final Notes has 700 Sharks, a super rare and undriven Porsche, micro adventuring, and an outlaw Dino. Thanks for listening, just press play and send your feedback to

Jason’s JLC Polaris Memovox
VIP Diving in Bonaire
Laborghini Urus
Jason Diving with Blancpain
Laurent Ballesta
Gombessa Video
Rokinon/Samyang 12mm F2 Wide Angle Lens
Halios Roldorf LE Seaforth
“Tuxedo Dial”

Speedy Racing Dial at Phillips
Hannah Elliott Instagram

Schuppan Porsche 962CR
@thecultivatedcollector on instagram
“Wilderness” by Alastair Humphries
Dino Monza 3.6 Evo
Laurent Ballesta on instagram
“700 Sharks At Night” by Laurent Ballesta for Nat Geo

May 15 2018

1hr 17mins


Rank #18: The Grey NATO - Ep 72 - Watch Resolutions

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It’s a new year, and that means a chance to consider the successes of last year and how to best navigate 2019 for maximum adventure (and watches). For episode 72, the guys chat about a handful of watch-related resolutions, dropping camera gear, and a selection of predictions and wishes for the show season at SIHH and Baselworld.
Will Tudor expand their use of Breitling’s chronograph movement? Will we see a steel sport watch from Lange? Is two-tone the next big trend?

The whole year is ahead of us and there’s no telling what the guys will get up to but be sure to stay tuned to the end for a solid selection of Final Notes featuring a magazine, two Netflix shows, and some pants! From a new season of Tales by Light to architecture for the masses, waterproof pants that wear like sweats, and the first issue of WM Brown magazine there is a little taste of a great many things in the TGN Spirit. Just press play and thanks for listening!

Show Notes
2:55 Fischer S-Bound Cross Country Skis
5:50 English Whiskey Co. Peated
8:46 IWC SIHH Preview
9:45 Auer Princess Almonds
11:25 Jason’s Tudor Oyster Date
15:16 James’ Buren Min Stop
19:42 Sony Zeiss 24mm F1.8 ZA
20:44 Sigma 35mm F1.4 Art
21:50 Nikon Z7
28:33 What Watch I Wore The Most 2018
33:05 Tudor Black Bay Gold and Steel
38:30 Omega CEO and Ben Clymer Chat At H10
40:45 Blancpain Fifty Fathoms Milspec
43:10 Omega Dark Side of the Moon
44:20 Tudor Heritage Chronograph
46:25 Bremont Supermarine Divers
50:30 Porsche Camp Four

- Final Notes -
1:00:00 Tales by Light Season 3
1:03:00 The World’s Most Extraordinary Homes
1:05:10 Waterproof Thermal Pants
1:08:04 WM Brown Project Magazine

Jan 10 2019

1hr 11mins


Rank #19: The Grey Nato - Ep 27 - Future Classic Watches

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This week we’re tackling the idea of Future Classics. Watches that we will look back on in 30+ years with fondness and perhaps the urge to acquire. Also, flashlights, as James has gone off the deep end with a selection of hugely impressive torches from Muyshondt. Finally, we’ve got a new news platform, some TGN-approved Sci-Fi, and a time-lapse tour of some long dead military hardware. Just press play and thanks so much for listening!

Muyshondt Maus MK I
Muyshondt Aeon MK III
Sierra Trading Post
Rab Sentinal softshell
ALPS Caldera 5500 Backpack

Future Classics:
Bremont MBII
Tudor Pelagos
Sinn U1
IWC 3548
IWC 3536
IWC 3548-06 Cousteau LE
IWC 3717
JLC Master Compressor Diver
A Lange and Sohne

North of Parallel
Xiaomi Mi Band 2
Military Boneyard Timelapse

Feb 07 2017

1hr 12mins


Rank #20: The Grey Nato - EP 19 - Watch Accessories

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This week the guys are chatting about things we buy for our watches: straps, tools, and more. From NATOs to leather, rubber and bracelets, James and Jason offer their favs after many years of trial and error. After that we have a packed line up for new business and final notes, covering Jason’s Breitling Emergency to James’ new show bag, the new John McAfee documentary, Jason’s love of dark chocolate peanut butter cups, a new carabiner on Kickstarter and Chris Harris at the Goodwood Revival. Just press play and thanks for listening!

Toxic Natos
Pheonix G10
Crown and Buckle Premium
Maratac straps
Zuludiver 328 rubber

Tropic rubber strap (new) or (NOS)
Hirsch Pure
Everest Straps

Halios leather strap
autodromo ralley strap
grey suede strap
Brietling style leather strap

$15 ebay bracelet

Erika’s Originals

Bergeon spring bar tool
Nomos Spring bar tool
Worn adn wound tool
Bergeon Spring Bar Pliers (horofix no longer carried)
link pusher tool
Digital calipers
Watch demagnetizer
How to demag
jaxa caseback tool
rubber ball caseback tool
TZ Watch School
Watchmakers table top bench

Jason's Breitling Emergency
Patagonia Black Hole
Tenba DNA 15
Hyde Park Watch Fair

Gringo: The Dangerous Life of JOhn McAfee
Justin's Peanut butter cups
FireBiner Kickstarter
Chris Harris at Goodwood Revival

Oct 11 2016

1hr 31mins


The Grey NATO - 120 - July Q And A

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It’s the end of the month, so it must be time for another TGN Q+A episode! A huge thanks to everyone who sent in a voice memo question. We get into everything from straps to cameras, how to care for a NATO, naming your watch after a problematic historical figure, Shadow Divers, "what ifs," and a whole lot more.

One quick note to those reading this in advance of listening: While we have loved making weekly episodes since March, the time has come to rebalance the schedule, and we're going to move to a format that will be three episodes per month. Thus, starting with the next new episode on August 13, we’ll be going back to an every-other-week format, but we're going to continue doing a monthly Q+A that will come as a surprise drop sometime towards the end of each month (so be sure to send in your questions and subscribe to the feed!).

A huge thanks to all of you who have been enjoying the weekly episodes and sending in your support. We think this new format is a good middle ground that ensures that TGN remains the best show possible. Just press play, and thanks so much for listening!

07:11 Festool
8:40 Dewalt stacking tool storage
11:50 Jason’s “Safarni”
12:30 James’ Doxa 50th Anni Professional
13:30 Garmin Outage
24:05 Otto Frei
27:03 Roldorf & Co
27:50 UTEwatchco
30:00 Garmin Instinct
38:30 Ulysses Nardin Torpilleur
47:50 Richo GRIII
55:00 Shadow Divers
1:27:10 “Shadow Diver on the U869 Narrated by John Chatterton”
1;30:55 “Crossing the deserts of Kazakhstan”

Jul 30 2020

1hr 34mins


The Grey NATO - Ep 119 - Gold And Broncos With James Lamdin

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Buckle up, baby, because episode 119 brings the goods. Jason is back from an amazing camping and diving trip on Lake Superior and James is dropping expensive camera gear and has convinced himself he can fix it. Also, we’ve got a great chat with Analog Shift’s James Lamdin! Want to go deep on interesting vintage watches, how to wear gold, and the new Ford Bronco – you know the drill – just press play.

James and James take a beat to unpack Mr. Lamdin’s start in the watch industry, the impact of his Grandfather on his taste in watches, and why the sunroof on his E39 M5 has been giving him some trouble. Stay in the mix for an amazing set of final notes that has Jason looking (very) South and James thinking of the old school splendor of New York City Oysters. Thanks so much for listening!

1:24 Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore
5:50 The Bermuda shipwreck
12:24 Neowise Comet
13:52 Sinn U50
15:59 Godox TT600 Manual Flash
22:45 Jason’s Sharkhunter Doxa T.Graph
30:25 Raise The Titanic
57:00 James’ E39 M5
58:40 The new Ford Bronco
1:03:00 Baja Boot story
1:11:20 “The Splendid and the Vile” - Eric Larson
1:12:28 Operation Odessa
1:17:00 The Equal Justice Initiative
1:17:55 James Lamdin on Instagram
1:18:55 Sarah Airriess Antarctica blog
1:21:50 Oyster-tecture via 99% Invisible

Jul 23 2020

1hr 27mins


The Grey NATO - 118 - On Paper, On Wrist // The Seiko SPB143

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Hot Dive Watch Summer continues with Jason taking delivery of a strapping new ana-digi Seiko as James continues to work through review units by spending some quality time with the latest and greatest from Sinn. If you want to talk about sport watches, this is your episode.

For the main topic, the TGN boys revive and old show format called “On Paper, On Wrist” in which they team up to review a watch that one of them hasn’t seen and the other has on wrist. For this installment, Jason and James are offering some in-depth feedback on the new smaller line of Seiko Prospex dive watches via James’ new SPX143 (SBDC101). After that, keep the tape rolling for a dive beneath the pyramids, the black market of bourbon, and a look at how giant ships are built. Just press play and thanks for listening!

3:47 The Long Return Pt. II
9:06 Jason’s Seiko "Safarni"
11:54 Sinn U50
16:10 James’ Seiko SPB143
46:58 Dive Beneath The Pyramids Of Sudan’s Black Pharaohs
49:51 Inside The World of Black Market of Bourbon
53:12 How Giant Ships Are Built
55:12 The Ship Breakers

Jul 16 2020



The Grey NATO - Ep 117 - Summer EDC With Kyle Snarr

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Fresh off of a week of vacation, the TGN boys are back with plenty of dock jumping energy. Jason kicked back cabin style and reports on the trip’s frivolities while James has become a shepherd to a flock of excellent new dive watches. From Tudor in blue to Seiko, Sinn, and Oris, too, this is an episode most summery and we haven’t even hit the main topic.

For a wider chat about some great TGN summer EDC options, Jason and James called upon their buddy Kyle Snarr who used to work for Gear Patrol and has recently started his own company Cantonment Co and launched their first product - a nicely made and very well considered kerchief (like a bandanna). Kyle chats about the origins of the new product and Jason and James report on their experiencing of using these handy swaths of colorful fabric for all sorts of uses. After that, the trio deep dive on some of their fav EDC gear, and there is certainly a little something for everyone.

Stick around for a varied Final Notes that brings great automotive history lessons, volcanic eruptions, and a new mini-series that is not to be missed. Thanks for listening – just press play!

16:00 Tudor Black Bay Fifty-Eight Navy Blue Hands On
16:01 The 40mm (ish) horsemen of Hot Dive Watch Summer
23:56 Garmin Venu
30:33 Citizen Aqualand C023
35:03 Cantonment Kerchiefs
53:01 Kill Hubris Washed Pocket Tees
58:47 Buck 501 Squire
59:15 James Brand Elko
59:40 Hohner Accordions Harmonica
1:00:55 Big I Design Titanium Pocket Clip
1:01:45 Muyshondt Aeon Titanium
1:02:30 Finch Knife Co Runtly pocket knife
1:04:39 Seiko SKX013
1:09:08 Topo 5-panel camper hat
1:10:00 Triple Aught design Scout Toonie Hat
1:10:22 Quaker Marine Long Brimmed Hat
1:11:00 Pedro+Tailor Hat
1:11:20 Josh Perez on TGN
1:13:32 Mountainsmith Tour Classic fanny-pack
1:16:16 Hammock packable hammock and Python Straps
1:19:55 Kyality on Instagram
1:21:30 “Past Gas” Podcast from Donut Media
1:26:20 “The Eruption of Instagram Island”
1:28:30 “Devs”

Jul 09 2020

1hr 34mins


The Grey NATO - Ep 116 - June Q And A

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It’s the last episode of the month, so that means you’ve got Qs and we’ve got As. Episode 116 kicks off with a recap of James’ Halios Seaforth charity auction and details about a new charity auction in which you can support an amazing charity and get a Rolex (for real).

As Jason and James are taking next week off, this episode is an extra long one as the guys dig into a big stack of excellent voicemail questions from all over the world. From mountaineering advice to King Turtles, watch storage, leather straps, women’s watches, and a lot more, the guys really appreciate all of the questions (keep recording and send your query to Thanks for listening!

1:45 James’ Halios Auction result for The Innocence Project
3:40 @rolex4eji Rolex OP auction for the Equal Justice Initiative
15:10 Oris Divers Sixty Five Chronograph
24:30 Seiko “King Turtle”
38:50 Jason’s experience on Mt. Rainier
54:45 Nanuk 910 case
58:15 Favre-Leuba Bivouac
58:20 Oris Propilot Altimeter
58:30 Richard Mille with a compass
58:53 Suunto “clipper” compass
1:04:01 Canvas and leather watch strap
1:04:30 Newman Bund strap
1:05:05 Distressed Brown leather watch strap
1:05:27 Sedona leather watch strap
1:05:45 Reid leather watch strap
1:06:30 Kangaroo leather NATO
1:07:17 Jason’s Blancpain Hodinkee LE
1:09:25 Halios Universa (prototype)
1:10:05 Cartier Tank
1:11:42 Omega PO 37.5mm
1:12:48 Seiko SKX013
1:21:39 Don’t Do That With Your Watch
1:29:55 The Longest Johns (youtube)
1:32:16 Donut Media (youtube)

Jun 25 2020

1hr 38mins


The Grey NATO - Ep 115 - Challenge: Seiko

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Back for another week and recorded in the evening (sorry if we sound sleepy) episode 115 is packed with Jason’s charity auction results, news of James’ upcoming auction (#teampastel), camping successes, bluetooth updates, and just so much Seiko.

Launching a new format, this episode is the inaugural “Challenge” episode, in which the TGN boys pick a brand and a budget and decide how they should spend those watch bucks. For the first challenge, Jason and James have $1500 to spend on anything from Seiko. What will they pick? What would you pick? Let us know in the comments and thanks so much for listening.

3:30 Alps Mountaineering Taurus 4
19:10 James on The Standard H Podcast
27:49 Seiko Prospex SNJ029 “Safarni”
30:25 James’s review of the standard Arnie SNJ025
34:24 Seiko Prospex SPB143
39:50 Seiko Prospex SRP777J
42:30 Seiko 5 SRPD59
46:40 Seiko SUS SCXP158
49:00 Seiko 5 SNZG09
53:33 Hub City Vintage
53:50 Seiya Japan
56:00 Jaunt Motors
1:02:04 MPow Bluetooth Adapter

Jun 18 2020

1hr 8mins


The Grey NATO - Ep 114 - The Isolation Tapes // Topic Not Found

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After a week’s break, the show returns with a loose chat about what’s going on in the world and how it all aligns with TGN and the communities the guys love to cover. This episode does not have a formal topic, but rather serves as Jason and James’ attempt to support those in the watch world and encourage everyone to listen, learn, and donate to worthy causes. Finally, don’t miss Jason’s Instagram auction in which you can get an awesome LE Unimatic while supporting Big Brothers Big sisters of America (bidding closes Friday!).

Beyond the more pressing social topics at hand, Jason’s land rover is back from service, James managed to take one top off of his Jeep and then install a different one, and the guys both marvel at the world’s cheapest electric car – the wonderful Changli. Now more than ever, thank you so much for listening, for your emails and messages of support. We’re all in this together.
6:10 Donation options
- Big Brothers Big Sisters of America
- The ACLU
- The Innocence Project
- Black Lives Matter
- Minnesota Freedom Fund
- Southern Poverty Law Center
7:55 @Garactcle Instagram (follow him!)
8:37 Jason’s Unimatic auction for charity
9:07 Big Brothers and Big Sisters
12:25 Garmin 42mm Fenix 6
17:16 Garmin Venu (with an OLED screen)
18:15 Garmin Instinct
19:50 Doxa SUB 200 T.Graph Searambler
31:34 Jason’s upgraded Land Rover
41:20 Jalopnik’s series with the Changli (aka the world’s cheapest EV)
48:00 Melanin Base Camp
50:15 “13th” (documentary film)

Jun 11 2020



The Grey NATO – Ep 113 – The Isolation Tapes // May Q And A

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Lucky number 113 coming in hot with extra spice from all of you that sent in your voicemails! With messages from all over the world, the TGN boys are delighted to talk about everything from watches to gear and much more. But before they dig into the questions, Jason and James chat new old audio gear, adding a clock to the Land Rover, and getting back into some properly distanced hiking.

The guys got to a big stack of questions so thanks so much to all who sent in a voice memo! Anyone with a question can record it into the voice memo app on their phone and then email the file to We can’t wait to get all of the questions together for June’s Q+A episode. Just press play an don’t forget to check out this episode’s sponsor – The Hodinkee Shop! Thanks for listening.

4:50 Jason’s dash clock
6:15 James’ NAD C 320BEE
11:00 Google Chromecast Audio
13:00 Silvana Skindiver
14:10 Jason’s Unimatic U1-B
29:18 “Safarni” Seiko
31:15 Hands On With The Doxa SUB 300 Carbon
32:48 Hiking with an RM025
47:35 Alpina AlpinerX multifunction watch
52:00 Doxa SUB 200
52:01 Oris Divers Sixty-Five
1:01:40 Sinn U50
1:08:35 Nanuk 510
1:11:05 Cory Richards
1:11:08 Paul Scurfield
1:11:20 Nims Purja
1:11:40 Episode 61
1:11:45 Episode 68
1:11:55 Jason Lim
1:12:18 Episode 38
1:12:30 Episode 35
1:17:05 Episode 102 “Desert Island Picks”
1:20 The Hodinkee Shop
1:21:12 The Smoking Tire with Kevin Czinger
1:22:10 Czinger cars on Top Gear Youtube

May 28 2020

1hr 27mins


The Grey NATO - Ep 112 - The Isolation Tapes // Perfect Product #3

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After a nine-month hiatus, episode 112 sees the return of the Perfect Product series in which Jason and James pick a fav product from their lives and give you an insider’s review about what makes it so great. For the third installment of the series, Jason has a two-wheeled suggestion and James wants to keep your coffee game quick and simple without sacrificing on taste.

Up first, the guys chat about old speakers, household projects, and new camping adventures not (at all) far from home. Don’t change that dial as the TGN boys round out the episode with a photo that gets edited more than 1000 times (by different people) and a tour of a special camp in Antarctica. Finally, A big thanks to The HODINKEE Shop for their continued support of the Isolation tapes, just press play, and thanks so much for listening.

2:40 Alps Mountaineering Taurus 4
9:30 Wharfedale S33 speakers
10:25 Lepai 2020 amp
10:30 D03K Fiio DAC
16:50 Garmin Fenix 6 42mm
18:50 Triple Aught Design Quantum NATO strap
20:16 Aquadive Bathysphere 100 GMT Diver
22:25 The Twin Six Rando Bike
37:05 Aeropress
43:15 Baratza Encore burr grinder
45:00 Metal filter for Aeropress
45:52 Milano coffee
51:15 The HODINKEE Shop
55:55 What happens when 1000+ people edit the same photo
58:55 A Very Short Guide To Union Glacier Camp

May 21 2020

1hr 2mins


The Grey NATO - Ep 111 - The Isolation Tapes // Tudor

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Episode 111 is the return of the TGN “brand focus” topic, this time taking a close look at none of that Tudor. From the brand’s roots to its relaunch in North America, and an in-depth highlight of many core models, Jason and James break down the strengths and qualities of this well-loved Rolex sibling brand. From the Black Bay to the Heritage Chrono and even the recent P01, there’s more than enough Tudor to chat about.

From the top, Jason is binging a great series for those who loved “Homeland” and James has got some new carbon strapped to his wrist. Stick to the end for a buzz-free (mostly) but tasty beer bread recipe, how to get back into the wild, a push to fix something around your home, and a journey some 36,000 feet under the sea. A huge thanks to the HODINKEE Shop for making this episode possible - just press play and thanks so much for listening!

1:40 The Bureau
12:02 Beyond The Dial Podcast
13:40 Doxa Sub 300 Carbon
22:53 Historic Tudor Divers
26:26 Tudor Black Bay
28:20 Black Bay Fifty-Eight
29:00 Black Bay Chrono Dark
30:24 Black Bay GMT
31:30 Heritage Chrono
37:10 Tudor Ranger
39:00 The North Flag
42:00 Tudor Pelagos
47:30 Cole’s Hands-On with the Black Bay P01
52:50 The HODINKEE Shop
53:50 Bake Beer Bread
55:50 King Arthur Flower Beer Bread
58:30 “36,000 Feet Under The Sea” The New Yorker
1:01:40 “Re-Wilding” With Wes Siler
1:01:50 Indefinitely Wild
1:05:35 Wes’ Overland Ford Ranger

May 14 2020

1hr 7mins


The Grey NATO - Ep 110 - The Isolation Tapes // Film Club Vol 4

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After a six month wait, the TGN boys thought it was time for another installment of The TGN Film Club. So here’s volume four and it’s quite a collection of thrillers, westerns, comedies, and even some horror (unexpected!).

But before the guys offer up ten new films into the TGN collection, they chat about a new watch podcast from some good buddies, a great new diver from Sinn, Heaton’s success with ramps, and the fact that James is too weak to service his own Jeep. As always, stay in the mix for a solid suggestion of homework and more than enough in to keep you entertained via Final Notes. Thanks for listening and an additional thanks to the HODINKEE Shop for supporting this show. Just press play!

9:15 OT: The Podcast
11:15 Sinn U50
14:09 Jason’s CWC 1970s RAF Chrono
15;05 James’s Oris Divers Sixty-Five LE for Hodinkee
15:17 James’s Stay At Home Essentials with Acquire Magazine
19:15 Lawrence of Arabia
21:50 Rushmore
24:10 Casino Royale
28:08 Wind River
31:30 1917
35:00 No Country For Old Men
39:48 The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
43:40 Arrival
4810 Let The Right One In
51:45 Drive
57:35 The HODINKEE Shop
1:05:05 Pedro and Tailor Hats
1:07:20 Fly Overland
1:09:30 Patagonia’s “Fishpeople” film

May 07 2020

1hr 12mins


The Grey NATO – Ep 109 – The Isolation Tapes // April Q and A

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Q and A is back for April with a big stack of questions from all over the world. Want to hear Jason and James chat about watch collecting, writing routines, watches we regret selling, demagnetizing watches, and what is always in their fridge. Look no further. The TGN boys have been thrilled by the response to the new Q and A format so please keep sending in your questions (just record them as a voice memo on your phone and email the file to!).

From the start, the guys are talking new dive watches from Seiko and Doxa, James’ continued fall into the world of higher-end audio, and more. Stay tuned to the end for an unlikely homework assignment from Jason and a solid set of final notes. A huge thanks to the Hodinkee Shop for supporting this episode and to everyone who has been listening to, commenting on, and enjoying the Isolation Tapes – just press play!

2:25 R/audiophile
2:26 R/budgetaudiophile
4:47 Doxa SUB 300 Carbon
10:57 Seiko Prospex SPB14X
13:34 New Seiko Tunas
16:00 Kill Hubris
17:00 Jason’s Doxa T.Graph
18:00 James’ Doxa 50th Pro
22:50 Dan Brown Masterclass
26:30 Seiko Willard
36:47 Halios Seaforth
37:04 Doxa SUB 200
37:30 Seiko Monster Orange dial
52:40 Forstner Komfit
52:50 Strapcode
53:10 Hadley Roma jubilee-style bracelet
1:05:20 Nerd Wallet investing guide
1:05:50 Nerd Wallet stock market simulators
1:12:05 Peninsula Kelp Co
1:14:05 Demagnetizer tool
1:14:20 Demagnetizer how to

Apr 30 2020

1hr 16mins


The Grey NATO - Ep 108 - The Isolation Tapes Ft. Josh Perez

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Episode 108 is another installment of the Isolation Tapes and a continuation of “isolation socialization” with a special guest from the world of photography. Joining James via a call from Denver, the TGN boys are excited to feature Josh Perez in topic-hopping chat keyed for the creatives (and hopeful creatives) in the audience. You may know Josh for his excellent Instagram, his work in the Hodinkee magazine, or his successful micro-studio Sett. A talented photographer who cut his teeth in the ever-competitive world of adventure sports, listen in for Josh’s story, his tips for those wanting to make the leap into a creative path, and how the launch of his new apparel brand helped put cash in the hands of some talented photographers.

From the start of the episode, Jason and James cover everything from some cool new knives and old regatta watches but stay tuned to the end for a fresh set of homework (with James sticking to a knife-heavy theme) and final notes that will have you looking both up high and very very deep. A big thanks to the Hodinkee shop for making this episode possible. Just press play and thanks for listening!

3:45 Finch Knives Runtly
9:30 Raven Solitude
10:20 Jason’s birthday Swiss Army Knife
11:05 Buck 501 Squire folding knife
13:20 Fraser Kit Co
15:10 James’ Explorer II
17:10 Jason’s Aquastar Regate
18:45 The Hodinkee Shop
19:39 Josh Perez’s Instagram
23:16 Volume 5 of Hodinkee Magazine
25:45 Topo Designs
30:00 Chris Burkard
31:05 Rab Equipment
31:30 Dano Pendygrasse instagram
37:17 Sett Studio
47:00 Pedro and Tailor
49:30 Photo contest winners
51:33 Guayabera shirt
55:35 PonPon Denver
55:40 Forest Room 5
56:20 Our Mutual Friend Brewery
57:30 “Rams” documentary
59:00 The Design of Everyday Things
59:27 The Watch
59:50 The Man in High Castle
1:03:10 Knife Skills on Skillshare
1:06:00 Looking Deep Into the Oceans - David Gallo for Ink Talks
1:07:30 Valley Uprising

Apr 23 2020

1hr 12mins


The Grey NATO - Ep 107 - The Isolation Tapes Ft. Cole Pennington

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In episode 107, Jason and James welcome their first guest to the Isolation Tapes series as Hodinkee colleague Cole Pennington calls in to chat travel, Japanese off-road trucks, the Omega Seamaster, and more. From the top, the guys chat about some recent big changes to the Baselworld line up and then patch Cole in for a bigger chat about his background in writing, his experiences abroad, and how his #1 place in the world isn’t all that far away (if you’re in America, even less so if you’re in the South).

Stay tuned for a wide-ranging final notes that will have you cooking backyard chili like a pro, navigating unknown terrain with ease, taking classes at Harvard, and rounding out your 2010’s film knowledge. A huge thank you to the Hodinkee Shop for their continued support of The Isolation Tapes - just press play and thanks so much for listening.

1:00 Hodinkee Radio Rolex and Patek leave Baselworld
9:05 Apollo 13 Real Time
11:48 Seiko Prospex Willard
14:25 Lorier Watches
17:44 Cole’s Bond Seamaster
21:30 Jason’s Speedy
21:48 James’ Buren MinStop
27:06 Coles’ Seamaster 300M A Week On The Wrist
33:06 RADwood
33:11 Driving While Awesome Podcast
37:00 Cole’s Mitsubishi Pajero
38:33 Japanese Classics
40:15 All of the dirt roads around America
42:32 Global Roamer
45:25 Mitsubishi Willys Jeeps
47:10 Hutan Tropical Instagram
54:08 Addis Ababa, Ethiopia
55:26 Fang, Thailand
58:20 Natchez, Mississippi
59:30 Carton Brewing
1:00:50 Lodge Dutch Oven
1:01:00 The Old Fashioned Dutch Oven Cookbook - Don Holm
1:03:30 The Hodinkee Shop
1:07:15 How to use a compass
1:08:34 Free Harvard classes
1:10:00 AV Club’s top 100 films of the last decade
1:12:15 Sounding the Sumburgh Foghorn

Apr 16 2020

1hr 15mins


The Grey NATO - Ep 106 - The Isolation Tapes // A Refreshing Watch

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Back for week… we don’t even know, but TGN is back because it’s definitely 100% Thursday. In this episode, Jason and James are chatting everything from new weights to the history of the SAS, some new reviews, and a lot more. The main topic surrounds the idea of a “refresher watch” the sort of watch that inadvertently gets your watch enthusiasm back in gear. From oddball Seikos to inexpensive vintage watches and maybe even doing your own mods, the guys pull from all corners of the watch world for ideas that will refresh while still respecting a budget.

In Final Notes, Jason has an amazing adventure film now available online (for free!) and James has inherited a farm and bought some (virtual) chickens. Send your questions and comments to, just press play, and a huge thanks to The Hodinkee Shop for their continued support of these weekly Isolation Tape episodes. Catch you online.
5:56 Bowflex 552 Weight set
10:16 Bremont Argonaut
12:00 Rogue Heroes: The History of the SAS
16:27 CWC royal Navy Dive Watch
18:30 Erika’s Originals
24:09 Seiko x Giugiaro SCED035 “Ripley”
24:40 Orient Red Beast
26:40 Breitling E56062 Aerospace
27:40 Jason’s Orient Saturation Diver
28:20 Seiko Emperor Tuna
30:25 Seiko Spirit SCVE003 “Rising Sun”
32:50 Hub City Vintage
34:01 Citizen GMT Diver
35:20 James’ Buren Min-Stop
35:50 Casio A500 Worldtimer
37:00 Casio Rangeman 9400
37:23 Casio 2100 “Casioak”
39:50 The HODINKEE Shop
42:00 Do your own Seiko mods
45:30 Seiko Pilot’s lounge clock
52:40 Mountain of Storms
55:20 Stardew Valley
58:50 Peak Design Tripod

Apr 09 2020

1hr 3mins


The Grey NATO - Ep 105 - The Isolation Tapes // More Q and A

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You sent in questions (a lot) and our weekly Isolation Tapes episodes continue with another Q&A episode. We got questions from all over the world (even Trinidad and Tobago!) and the guys had a blast hearing your voices and attempting to answer a wide-ranging set of questions. A huge thanks to everyone who send in a voice memo question and to The HODINKEE Shop for making this episode possible.

Jason and James also chat about a new photography contest that TGN is helping to support with Pedro and Tailor, the progress on Jason’s upcoming novel, free books, out favorite NATO straps, some new elastic straps, and an Instagram account dedicated to the history of James’s favorite plane. Thanks for listening, sending in questions, and being part of the Isolation Tapes family - just press play.

4:34 Pedro and Tailor $1000 Photography Contest
9:27 Instagram for Jason’s Novel “Depth Charge” (follow, signup!)
11:16 (free books!)
13:13 Jason’s Speedy
14:00 MKII Paradive Gen3
14:17 Bill Yao’s / MKII Instagram
15:17 ToxicNATOs!
18:15 Oris Pointer Date
18:15 Nomos Club Atlantik
21:20 Aeropress
22:10 Turk’s West Vancouver
22:32 Melitta cone pour over
22:40 Japanese Kinto pour over
23:23 Blue Bottle
23:30 Collectivo Coffee
44:55 The Hodinkee Shop
1:02:20 Horofix strap pliers
1:97:15 Nick Mankee Straps
1:08:42 Romig21 on Instagram

Apr 02 2020

1hr 12mins


The Grey NATO – Ep 104 – Isolation Tapes // TGN Bookclub

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Simultaneously recorded live from their homes in Minneapolis and Toronto, the boys are back with another edition of the isolation tapes. In response to a kind listener request, this episode is all about books as Jason and James co-opt the Film Club template to offer six books you might love to read during this time of limited social obligation. From high mountain peaks and stormy oceans to the stoic mind and more, it’s a set of books that will have you traveling all over the globe without ever leaving your couch.

Along with the books, stay tuned for more foglight chat (last week Jason had 1/4 of his light working), climbers frozen in time, and a hilarious look at some of the world’s strangest animals. This episode is proudly brought to you by the Hodinkee Shop, just press play and thanks so much for listening.
9:25 Ben’s Open Letter To The Watch Community
10:32 Small Brand Highlight:
Monta Watches
Everest Straps
Touching the Void
The Right Stuff
Blue Meridian
Into The Wild
The English Patient
Shadow Divers
18:50 The Snow Leopard - Peter Matthiessen
22:15 No Shortcuts to the Top - Ed Viesturs
23:15 The Perfect Storm - Sebastian Junger
29:15 The Obstacle is the Way - Ryan Holiday
31:00 The Hodinkee Shop
32:10 The Watch, Thoroughly Revised
32:40 Italian Leather Vintage Style strap
34:18 Eiger Dreams - Jon Krakauer
38:25 Mad, Bad and Dangerous To Know - Ranulph Fiennes
49:29 Frozen In Time
50:45 ZeFrank’s True Facts Video Series

Mar 26 2020



The Grey NATO - Ep 103 - The Isolation Tapes // Work From Home Like A Pro

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We’re back a week early! Jason and James are practicing social distancing and in light of having to postpone the NYC hangout, the boys wanted to try to brighten your week by going to weekly episodes for the next bit. We’re all in this together, and, while this will pass, we might as well support each other as best we can. So here it is, The Isolation Tapes.

While future episodes will explore great things you can do without leaving the house (films, books, and Q+A - send in your questions please!), this episode focuses on how to work from home like a pro (Jason has been working from home since 2004!). From planning a routine to understanding needs both extroverted and introverted, the guys do this for a living and hope to make your week just a bit easier (and more fun!).

From cutting your work into phases and understanding when you need a break to Jason and James’s disagreement on the merits of working from bed, it’s a chatty episode that should bring you closer to WFH bliss. Stay tuned for an extended final notes (which the guys are calling “Homework”) that cover Bond, brothers, TV survival, and survival guilt in the mountains. Thanks for listening, just press play, and please send your voice memo questions to for our upcoming Q+A episode.

2:08 The CDC’s COVID-19 Page
35:48 Youtube Cooking!
36:30 Microadventures!
40:35 Read the complete James Bond series
42:25 Band of Brothers
45:08 Survivours Guilt In The Mountains – The New Yorker
47:00 Naked and Afraid
48:20 Everything on Naked and Afraid is Real, And I Lived It – Outside Online

Mar 19 2020



The Grey NATO - Ep 102 - Desert Island Picks (And The Meetup Has Been Postponed. Sorry)

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Hot on the heels of a very popular Q+A episode, the TGN boys are back with some sad news. Due to the public health concerns surrounding the spread of COVID19, the TGN hangout slated for March 18th has been postponed. While Jason and James were very much looking forward to it, they don't want to be an active element in getting people sick. Once the risk has been minimized, the meetup will be rescheduled.

Back to the episode at hand, it's a special TGN spin on the classic “what would you take to a desert island” question. From essential items to requisite booze, books, and breakfast cereal, it’s a veritable how-to for being a well-prepared recluse.

Stay in the mix for high-pressure final notes that looks into the history of the HeV and offers up a great list of adventure books that are just as good the second or third time as they are on the first read. If you have a question for the guys, be sure to record it as a voice memo on your phone and email the file so it can be included in a future Q+A episode. Thanks for listening – just press play!

10:17 Desert Island Discs
11:37 Kind of Blue - Miles Davis
14:40 Helplessness Blues - Fleet Foxes
18:00 Blue Meridian - Peter Matthiessen
23:30 Endurance - Alfred Lansing
25:50 Rolex Submariner 14060M
27:14 Doxa Sub 300 50th Anniversary Searambler
29:14 Willet Bourbon
29:51 Tobermory Scotch
42:00 “The Doxa HRV” - Perezcope
43:45 “6 Classic Adventure Books We’d Read Again and Again” - Outside Online

Mar 12 2020



The Grey NATO - Ep 101 - A Proper Q And A Megasode

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The boys are back and brimming with triple-digit episode energy. Episode 101 features, well, you (assuming you were in the first 12 listeners to send a voice memo Q+A question). For those who might have skipped Ep 100, there’s a new Q+A format in town, with Jason and James asking you to record your questions like a voice memo and then email them to the show. The boys got a bunch, so here is a wide-ranging episode with voices from all over the world.

From re-falling for a watch still in your collection, watch servicing, EDC, and the future of gas cars in an electric world (and so much more) Jason and James we’re thrilled by the response that the new format received and they hope you love this question packed episode. Stay tuned to the end for a set of final notes that has Jason and James at odds over a strange new watch. Just press play, thanks for listening, and a huge thanks to this episode's sponsor - Alps & Meters!

6:25 Jason’s post about not buying a 50th birthday watch
13:00 Ocean 7 LM-5
13:56 Astor and Banks Sea Ranger
14:08 Doxa Sub 200
28:10 Seiko SKX007
33:10 Alps and Meters
34:08 Classic Waffle Sweater
35:29 The Touring Oxford
43:16 Calibre de Cartier
46:09 The James Brand Elko
47:20 Swiss Army Knife
47:59 Benchmade Mini-Grip 556S
48:48 Benchmade Proper 319
49:18 Aaron Shapiro’s look at the 319 Proper
49:50 Belroy Hide And Seek
50:47 Fraser Kit Co Wallet
54:32 Episode 52 with WatchMaker Jason Gallop
56:26 Newmark Chronograph
1:05:00 James’ Seiko SKX007
1:05:50 SKX779 Black Monster
1:06:25 Jason’s Rolex Submariner 14060M
1:12:20 Top Shots From The 2019 International Landscape Photographer Of The Year
1:13:35 The Solid State Watch

Feb 27 2020

1hr 21mins


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Pure adventure and watches. A focus on the tools to live your life.