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Thinking Like A Lawyer is a podcast featuring Above the Law’s Elie Mystal and Joe Patrice. Each episode, the hosts will take a topic experienced and enjoyed by regular people, and shine it through the prism of a legal framework. This will either reveal an awesome rainbow of thought, or a disorienting kaleidoscope of issues. Either way, it should be fun.

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Thinking Like A Lawyer is a podcast featuring Above the Law’s Elie Mystal and Joe Patrice. Each episode, the hosts will take a topic experienced and enjoyed by regular people, and shine it through the prism of a legal framework. This will either reveal an awesome rainbow of thought, or a disorienting kaleidoscope of issues. Either way, it should be fun.

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Great pod

By camdggfhbdsh - Nov 24 2019
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Love Elie and Joe. Great stuff.

I’m just here fur the cat puns.

By ladeedah123 - Oct 04 2019
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Litter-ally the best podcast, and that’s not hy-purr-bole. Don’t paws... subscribe today!

iTunes Ratings

197 Ratings
Average Ratings
145
20
7
6
19

Great pod

By camdggfhbdsh - Nov 24 2019
Read more
Love Elie and Joe. Great stuff.

I’m just here fur the cat puns.

By ladeedah123 - Oct 04 2019
Read more
Litter-ally the best podcast, and that’s not hy-purr-bole. Don’t paws... subscribe today!

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Above the Law - Thinking Like a Lawyer

Updated about 14 hours ago

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Thinking Like A Lawyer is a podcast featuring Above the Law’s Elie Mystal and Joe Patrice. Each episode, the hosts will take a topic experienced and enjoyed by regular people, and shine it through the prism of a legal framework. This will either reveal an awesome rainbow of thought, or a disorienting kaleidoscope of issues. Either way, it should be fun.

Rank #1: Law School Decision 2019 (Part I)

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We finally set aside some time to discuss the questions we've received from prospective law students asking "where should I go to school?" Choosing between T14 heavies? We can handle that. Weighing different scholarship packages? We've got that too. Tune in and hear our advice on how to properly manage the law school adventure.

Special thanks to our sponsor, Smith.ai.

Apr 23 2019

37mins

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Rank #2: Law School Students Need To Figure Out Where They're Going To Work

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With offers for summer employment going out to law students around the country, Thinking Like A Lawyer unveils its annual "The Offer" series. If you're wondering which of your offers you should take, Joe and Elie are happy to anonymously discuss them. Just send them to tips@abovethelaw.com subject line "The Offer." In the meantime, here are some general thoughts on the job hunt process.

Oct 22 2019

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Rank #3: The Future Of The Law Firm

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Elie and Joe talk to Ralph Baxter, former head of Orrick and current board member of Intapp, about the future of the legal industry. Baxter has long been an evangelist for legal industry change, willing to rethink Biglaw's long-standing practices to deliver better and more cost-effective services to clients.

Special thanks to our sponsor, Smith.ai.

Dec 11 2018

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Rank #4: Let Us Tell You Where You Should Go To Law School

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Joe and Elie open the mailbag and answer questions from listeners trying to decide where to go to law school. Even if you're not facing the precise decisions these listeners have, they hit on major issues that all students should consider in making a law school decision.

Apr 21 2017

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Rank #5: How To Explain The World To Non-Lawyers

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Joe and Elie talk to Cristian Farias about producing a legal podcast non-lawyers listen to, and explaining the Supreme Court to a law audience. 

Oct 19 2017

33mins

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Rank #6: The Changing Legal Office

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The legal workplace would be almost unrecognizable to a lawyer of the past. The typewriters are gone, WordPerfect is gone, the fax machines are going, and a whole host of new platforms providing services that those older lawyers could never have imagined. Joe and Elie chat with Casepoint CEO Haresh Bhungalia and Casepoint Chief Strategy Officer David Carns about the legal technology landscape generally and Casepoint specifically and how each are changing the legal workflow.

Sep 25 2018

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Rank #7: Getting Paid As A Lawyer Really Shouldn't Be So Hard

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Joe attended this year's Clio Cloud Conference and sat down with Sarah Schaff of Headnote to discuss her legal career and how she's shifted to become an entrepreneur with a product that helps attorneys collect on their bills within hours instead of months.

Oct 09 2018

16mins

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Rank #8: Finding Your Career Starts Now, 1L

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Joe and Elie talk with Ray English, Career Services Director at Arizona State Sandra Day O'Connor School of Law, about when to start finding a job. (SPOILER ALERT: Now). And how to start finding yourself.

Sep 19 2017

29mins

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Rank #9: It's Finals Week for Law Students!

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Joe and Elie share their tips on how law students should prepare for final exams. They suggest getting into the mindset of mentioning concepts in the right place, organizing your notes before test week and even choosing the perfect song to get you hyped for studying. They top it off with their dislikes for final papers!

Nov 21 2018

29mins

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Rank #10: Where Should You Go To Law School?

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The latest in Thinking Like A Lawyer's ongoing -- if intermittent -- series asking prospective law students where they're thinking about going to law school and offering our advice. Offers from Penn and Berkeley? Elie and Joe got thoughts about it.

Apr 27 2018

28mins

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Rank #11: Law School Rankings Recap

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The US News and World Report law school rankings have been leaked, and the gang breaks down who's on top and who's making big moves -- both good and bad -- in this year's rankings. Joe and Elie also have an extended discussion about racist cars, specifically what to make of a new report suggesting that self-driving cars are more likely to strike African-American pedestrians.

Special thanks to our sponsor, Smith.ai.

Mar 12 2019

36mins

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Rank #12: Getting Inside A Judge's Head

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Many folks become lawyers so they don't have to deal with math anymore. It's one of those weaknesses that holds back the profession as a business. Yet, cutting-edge tech is bringing number crunching to the fingertips of lawyers everywhere in the form of easy to use data analytics. Joe and Elie talk to Josh Becker of LexisNexis about the release of Context, a new tool that delivers deep insights into judicial idiosyncracies by analyzing the language of their body of work.

Special thanks to our sponsor, Smith.ai.

Dec 05 2018

21mins

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Rank #13: The Kavanaugh Hearings Were Something Else, Weren't They

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Joe and Above the Law's Kathryn Rubino react in real-time to the Kavanaugh hearings, recapping the morning testimony of Christine Blasey Ford and watching the Kavanaugh opening statement in all its ripe-for-SNL-parody glory. Since this recording, the vote's been delayed pending an investigation but it's worth taking a step back and ruminating on what we saw.

Oct 02 2018

28mins

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Rank #14: Would You Rather? But Legal

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Joe and Elie address some hypothetical situations about the legal industry and discuss which path they'd rather take knowing what they know. Imagine Thinking Like A Lawyer's "The Decision" series helping students choose a law school, but applied to a bunch of random legal questions.

Aug 13 2019

34mins

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Rank #15: The 2018 Top 50 Law Schools

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Joe and Elie discuss Above the Law's annual ranking of the top law schools in America with ATL Research Director Brian Dalton. There were some major shifts at the top of this year's ranking, and Elie isn't happy about any of them.

Brian Dalton is the director of research at Breaking Media.

Special thanks to our sponsor Major, Lindsey & Africa.

Jun 21 2018

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Rank #16: How To Decide On A Law School: We Answer Even More Questions

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Last time, Elie and Joe tackled a number of audience emails asking for counsel on where they should attend law school. That episode triggered a deluge of follow-up emails from listeners with their own questions, so the guys put their "Decision" hats back on and talked through even more law school scenarios. Can you get to Biglaw from a second-tier school? Have you spread your applications too thin? Are you deciding between Harvard and Stanford? We address all these questions and more.

Special thanks to our sponsor Major, Lindsey & Africa.

May 08 2018

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Rank #17: Law School Decision 2019 (Part II)

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Joe and Elie continue to offer their answers on questions they've received from prospective law students asking “where should I go to school?” Balancing regional offers? Trying to decide what market to practice in? Choosing between the murky world of "just below T14"? Tune in and hear our advice on how to properly manage the law school adventure.

Special thanks to our sponsor, Smith.ai.

Apr 30 2019

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Rank #18: New Law School Rankings, The Plight Of The Managing Partner, And In-House Work In The #MeToo Era

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Joe and Elie catch their breath by recapping the top legal stories of last week. At the annual meeting of the Association of Corporate Counsel, Elie describes an in-house community deeply concerned with navigating the #MeToo era, the gang discusses the abrupt decision of Baker McKenzie's managing partner to step down for "exhaustion," and the pair argue over a new set of law school rankings.

Oct 30 2018

35mins

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Rank #19: The Dumbest Law School Exam Question Ever

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Elie and Joe sit down to discuss one of the truly stupid law school final exams in history. Did it cover material that could reasonably come up in future practice? No. Did it require reasoning through currently controlling precedent? No. Was it wildly offensive? Oh, you better believe it was.

Jun 28 2018

29mins

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Rank #20: The Michael Avenatti Interview

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Joe and Elie welcome Michael Avenatti, Above the Law's 2018 Lawyer of the Year. It's hard to say any attorney owned 2018 like Avenatti who stormed (see what I did there?) onto the scene challenging Michael Cohen and Donald Trump over their treatment of his client. In a wide-ranging interview, Avenatti tells Joe and Elie (with a cameo appearance by ATL editor Staci Zaretsky) about his career, his assessment of the 2020 presidential race he thought about joining and of course his marquee 2018 matter and the strategy that went into it.

Special thanks to our sponsor, Smith.ai.

Feb 12 2019

45mins

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